Meditation & Searching for The Self | Dr. Sam Harris & Dr. Andrew Huberman
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Dr. Sam Harris explains how one searches for the self to Dr. Andrew Huberman.
Dr. Sam Harris is the author of multiple best-selling books and is a world-renowned public-facing intellectual on meditation, consciousness, free will, psychedelics and neuroscience. He is also the creator of Waking Up and the host of the Making Sense podcast. Dr. Andrew Huberman is a tenured professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford University School of Medicine and host of the Huberman Lab podcast.
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This clip is from the Huberman Lab episode "Dr. Sam Harris: Using Meditation to Focus, View Consciousness & Expand Your Mind." The full episode can be found on RUclips here: ruclips.net/video/-wIt_WsJGfw/видео.html
Meditations help you realize that you don't have to "look" for love, peace, happiness, calmness, success. These things come to you when you are still, or in your own state of flow, doing you.
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Interesting
so true. so beautiful.
Or they don’t
I remember a great philosopher saying: seeking is a way of postponing finding. Once you start looking for somewhere where you aren't, you are split into two pieces, and you are lost.
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Seeking is a way of postponing finding. I like that. And now I see Mark Rutte as a Zen master in my head which is really weird. ;)
Thanks for this
That’s a great koan
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Sure but ironically koan practice in my view is very much about seeking the seeker is so exhausted that surrender can happen and truth can be realized.
In the context of these talks by Sam Harris, J krishnamurthi's famous statement "When the observer becomes the observed" makes complete sense now .
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He speaks about life's journey.. and beautifully
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I started meditating about 6 years ago while in recovery from opioid addiction and I began having intense visions as well as dreams, however, to make a long story short, the best way I could ever describe it was that it created this unnatural angst for me that feel like I was being searched for…that people were searching for me…that while “searching for myself within”, i more felt this adrenaline like the wind was blowing against and that on an energetic level I was running (from nothing physical) because I felt like there was this hunt of others searching for me. So I had to start talking to my cells and my body (speaking to my scared inner child) to let her know “I’m right here”…””stop looking for yourself”….so this video resonated deeply for me, thank you 🙏🏼
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After i quit oxy I kept having dreams where i was on the run. People or some things were out to get me. I eventually considered it to be the drug seeker part of my psyche, and it was on the run in my subconscious, in a way.
I set the intention to let whatever it was catch me. To catch the part of me that was trying to hide. That night I had a dream I was on an archaeology team looking for some treasure, I found the artifacts and they were significant (in the dream) and then I never even had another dream where I was on the run. After years of having them, too. Seems intention was enough.
@@LexMassive I actually still have these dreams…I’m going to do this…thanks for i appreciate you sharing🙏🏼
I have been thinking about self-development (for myself) for a long time. I had many expectations of myself. But I recently realized that all I was looking for was already in me. I can't borrow anything from others that's not there. I can only pay attention and cultivate the seeds.
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The fist to open hand analogy is "SPOT ON' brilliant
This is an incredible clip. Thank you Dr Coach Huberman.
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Dr Harris talks about not seeking but is the literal GOAT seeker.
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I really need to say how pleasant the beginning of the videos are of the light blue beaker with no sound 💙
this podcast is a gift lol, thank god for the internet
‘I feel great from meditating’ is a clear sign you’re not quite grasping it just yet.
What a guy! Love Sam 💘
Sam Harris had a great conversation with Swami Sarvapriyananda about Vedanta and Nonduality. I would love to see Andrew and Jordan Peterson have a conversation with Swami Sarvapriyananda as well.
even with the stories and analogies I still feel HArris fails to explain his point, you feel as if he is going to go on a tangent at any moment
That's because it's really hard to impossible to explain the process of awakening with words and concepts. You can only ever really sort of point in the general direction and anything you say to point in that direction will tend to sound like a riddle or paradox. You have to get there experientially and beyond thought and concepts. That's why Zen masters speak in riddles and paradoxes ("what is the sound of one hand?"), to force the mind of the student (fist) to release it's grasping for understanding on a conceptual level.
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Wow! This video totally changed my life.
Two megalomaniacs explaining that the self doesn`t exist.
the truth doesn`t get any clearer than that.
This is a mad thing to explain but I think it eventually makes sense when he just uses the fist analogy
05:40 it's the occam's razor of thinking
I wonder if Huberman himself got 100 all that was said. In all of Harris’ statement in this clip I only almost understand before I realize I have no clue what he’s getting at.
the mere desire to seek even self and god is obstacles in ways to search self and god - OSHO "WILDEST MAN EVER BORN"
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Amazing!!!❣️
Well, Sam says the self is an illusion, plus free will doesn't exist and consciousness is an illusion.
So if that is true, who exactly is searching for "their self?" (is it an illusion looking for an illusion?"
And what would be the point of that?
be sure you know thete arectwo types of meditation, both completely different. one is a dead end, one leads to insight.
I very much like both Sam Harris and Andrew Huberman, but I felt that the entire 4 hours of conversation was just talking past each other. Andrew didn't get at all what Sam was talking about and Sam (as much as I like him) was not very helpful. Eg exactly at this point in the conversation, Sam is talking about how the self creates suffering, but afaik he has never explained once the exact psychological mechanism (neither in this conversation, nor in the entire content of Waking Up).
I would be quite surprised if anyone of Andrews audience, who hasn't had the insight would be able to take anything actionable from that conversation.
Please give me a comprehensive definition of the self that's supposed not to exist.
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It is so odd to believe the idea that the conscious self is an illusion, when it is the only thing for sure that we know without a doubt. We know for certain that we are having experiences. The identification of data and phenomena that we are experience, that is much less certain.
Mr Harris I know what you're trying to say but man, the way you try to explain it is nearly impossible to grasp most of the time. Speak it as if you were speaking to a child.
Being a heavy intellectual that can understand complex subjects and being great at explaining them to laymen is a rare gift that most smart people don't have.
@@Luke_MoonWalkerThis is also not an "intellectual" subject. It's not a complex subject, it's very simple. Our minds make it complex. If you ask a Zen master to "simply explain Zen" to you they are likely to just hit you over the head with a stick and say "now you understand? Now go ponder the question "what is Mu?" for a year!" That's not intellectual because what they are trying to get you to see is not on the level of mind/thinking/intellect.
@@snakedogmanI've just realised that's almost exactly what happens in the Lion King 😂
i am sure this all makes sense, but I didn't understand shit, can someone simplify for me?
I think the problem is that it all exists beyond or (previous to?) language. It's the problem that all zen or Buddhist or any kind of we would usually call Eastern understandings of the universe have. part of the bedrock of those practices is that language creates distinctions that don't actually exist. So it's very difficult to use language to explain the concepts. which is why things like meditation and psychedelics can be so useful.
I can more effectively compare this story to what every, conscious person can relate to:
When you think you see a snake in your yard 🐍 but after you squint and focus you then realize, it’s only a rope 🌚 that needs to be put away.
You sense an anxiety and the threat feels great but it turns out, not so much 🌞
@greenwave fitness, @sojourner karuna truth, I see what you mean guys, thanks for elaborating the idea
@@greenwavefitness7545 Right! Like a "wave" on the ocean. But is the wave distinct from the Ocean? No. It's just a distinction our minds' made.
Sam Harris is really smart.
Hello, one question: are the triglycerides in our blood different if they are produced by ingested saturated fats or carbohydrates? Is the length equal?
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Just keep noticing! 😉
You need to get Sevan Bomar on the podcast 😊
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Wow! The wheel's still going round but the hamsters gone !
2:27
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How would you prove robot has consciousness using empirical data. How do you prove to blind man what color red is using empirical data. In theory, robot can be programmed to move its hand when it touches hot surface. How do I know its having the experience of hot using test tube(Deduction/induction). The only thing i am certain of is that i have experience of hot. This experience can only come from entity that can already experience existence (Allah-one/indivisible/All-Loving)
Even "hot" is a thought/concept. The only thing you are really certain of is the actual raw sensory experience (which your mind then labels "hot") and your awareness of said experience (and the awareness of the thought "hot").
The irony of a man being able to understand the complexity, nuance, and implications of a concept like "no-self" also, in the same brain, being like "oh u believe in god lol where is this big sky daddy huh lol ur so dumb" boggles the mind.
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I think inviting a monk to discuss meditation would be better lol
Why? Sam Harris has plenty of experience and knowledge to talk about this subject.
God I hate such stories which are sooooo unfeasible. The driver would have, should have counted heads getting back on. In other words, If the story is shit, so is the analogy. Same as "thought experiments". Rubbish realities are not real realities.
why is sam telling us this?
Why not?
The same point can be made the Asian woman couldn't find the Asian woman; because she *is* the Asian woman. Which would oppose Buddhist non-self he is proponing and vouches for Vedanta instead
We all know that the fact of the tourist in the story being Asian is not because of the language barrier but because they all look alike, right? 😂
He was just being politically correct
When a speaker cannot explain what he wants to explain, it is usually a sign that he does not have a good understanding of what he is talking about.
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whatever dude... hope you get it sorted
He is rambling. If he wants to say, that if you meditatively look for your own self is analogus to the "bus-story", he cannot be right. The asian woman was looking for a lost person not herself, and then realizes she is the missing person - it is a physical problem solved. The solver is not herself, but the tourguide who forgot that a bodycount is the first choice to clarify whtether there is a problem.
This has nothing to do with psychological properties; it is a routine job botched.
Lmao 🤣 he’s jst rambling noting he said made any sense it was mumbo jumbo
Or maybe you just don’t understand?
God this is painful to listen to, such babbling and hocus Pocus.
No. If you don’t understand then you don’t understand. He does have trouble verbalizing what he means but if you get it, you get it. He’s talking about the concept of the self. There isnt many words in the vocabulary of English to pinpoint at concepts like such so the communication of it is tricky.
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That's because it's not a concept. That's the whole point.
@@RealMusicCloudok explain it then
A conversation you would only hear from two white guys.
meditation will not get you there. brillant reasoning like what sam harris is doing will not get you there either. nothing will ever get you there because 'there' is neither existant nor is it not existant. it has nothing to do with words and logic. yet 'there' is everything. as soon as you speak about it slips away. all you can do is reject every word, thought, feeling and emotion.
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Meditation can be a part of the journey to "get you there", but it doesn't have to be. People can "wake up" quite suddenly without any formal spiritual practice, but that doesn't mean all spiritual practice is therefore useless.
Or maybe the delusion of self Mr. Sam Harris.
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come on!!!! bring somebody on who actually knows something about meditation and the nature of consciousness if you are going to address this topic... Harris is an amateur ... what babble!!!
Like who?
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Meditation makes you cencer and become a narcissist.
No.