How Coleman and Fleetwood lift systems work

[@btexasjbc]

For those of us who have Coleman pop up’s this is my favorite RUclips channel. Keep up the great work. Hope you guys continue to make these videos.

[@popupcamperpro]

Thank you Barry! More videos are in the works.

[@barbarafrancklyn2131]

Excellent video, very informative, we wondered how that worked. We bought a used Bayside 2011 last summer and the lift system has been sluggish. Now we know where to begin. We spoke to Derek to order parts and he could not have been nicer. Thank you Derek!!

[@popupcamperpro]

Thank you Barbara! It was great talking to you and your husband!

[@kale_xo]

After being given a ‘99 SantaFe and never owning a pop up before, I find myself on this channel very often! It’s been extremely helpful with diagnosing the few problems that are very evident on this camper. The entire ABS roof needs to be removed and re-covered. Some of the foam on one corner of the roof has come off where the latch is so I will need to figure out how to ‘replace’ that corner foam and I’m having trouble figuring out how to accomplish that. Also the ABS ceiling inside is cracking pretty extensively as well. Especially around the brackets that hold two of the the lift arms in place. I know for sure that the rear roadside lift cable has snapped and needs to be replaced but the entire lift arm has broken off of the ABS ceiling as well, with all four bolts still attached to the plastic. I really need some advice on how I may be able to re-attach it back to the ceiling because I won’t be able to replace the lift cable until the lift arm is bolted securely back into place somehow. I’m fairly mechanically inclined for a woman and I am determined to fix this pop up for my family, and on a budget. I know that the roof and this lift arm/cable are the number one priority, then I can worry about “glamping” it up all pretty. Any advice at all on this repair would be so helpful. This issue isn’t something that is very common I guess, as I have not been able to find anything online similar to it.
And as for the foam issue, what would you recommend to fix this corner where the large piece of foam is gone? I was thinking maybe some bondo and fiberglass mesh, possibly spray foam? It has to be strong enough to securely install a new top latch.
Sorry for the long winded comment. I just personally don’t know anyone who has any knowledge on pop up campers so I figured I’d ask here since I’ve already found a lot of help through this channel.
Thank you!!

[@popupcamperpro]

No worries Kaleigh! It has been my personal experience in the past two weeks that I've been doing this that with this many questions, a phone call is in order. Please give me a call at colemanpopupparts.com when you have ten minutes or so to talk. 1-800-424-CAMP or 301-898-3300

[@glenchadwick420]

Stumbled on your video and want to say thank you for the great demo. I'm sure I will be needing it sometime in the future so I book marked it. I just bought a used coleman pop up. I'm now retired at the age of 60 and ready for some camping😁

[@popupcamperpro]

Glad it was helpful and please subscribe!

[@pauli2062]

Great video! Id love to see one on how to remove a slide out for repair. My Utah has some water damage and I would like to rebuild it. Seeing a slide out removed would be super helpful in planning a project like that!

[@popupcamperpro]

I can do that! They are quite over engineered and not the easiest to tackle.

[@punkrockballer04]

Great video! Could you possible do a video on how to replace the Whiffle Tree? We have a 1998 Coleman Cheyenne that needs a new one.

[@ALittleBitofThis]

Very helpful and valuable video to be able to refer to. Thanks so much for making it.

[@popupcamperpro]

You are very welcome and thanks for watching!

[@docgillman2548]

Hi Derek! I spoke to you on the phone today. I appreciate your time. Your Video's are fantastic!
Based on our conversation, I have 2 video suggestions: 1) Can you please do a video on replacing the Thrust Bearing? I am looking at a Coleman that has the crank in the middle of the back about waist high (coleman sante fe) and it is very difficult to crank.
2) Also, there is a "popping" sound coming from one of the lift arms when trying to raise it. so maybe a video on lift arm pulley replacement?
Thanks for your consideration!

[@popupcamperpro]

Hello doc! I will put them on the list.

[@JustinShanholtzer]

Great video Derek. You do an awesome Job, I learned alot!

[@popupcamperpro]

Thanks Justin!

[@TheAirForceGuy]

Keep killing it

[@onefishfrank9145]

Excellent resource, thank you!

[@popupcamperpro]

Thank you Mike! Glad to be of service. Happy pop up camping!

[@bennyraymonde]

Thank you for the video, I saw that when you raise the top you hear a clicking noise as it is going up and no clicking noise when you take the top down , now on my Yuma 2006, it does not have any clicking when I raise the top is that normal, if not what should I do about that?

[@popupcamperpro]

Take a look at our videos covering drive hubs for assistance

[@delkelso]

we sold a pristine 2005 Fleetwood Colonial a year ago and have been crying in our beer ever since. now searching for another one to replace it, lots of junk out there. seeing this makes me think that you might be able to rebuild one? thanks for the video.

[@bdub3871]

Del Kelso have a 2006 FleetWood that my kids and I were cleaning out and about to sell to make room for our new toy hauler coming next month. Well, the roof dropped just a little bit and couldn’t get door up. So went back to the crank to raise it. Room kept lowering alittle. So I went ahead and cranked on it alittle too much. Next thing you know the roof starts dropping and I heard a noise like a spring unwinding. Now the crank is not working. Haven’t had a chance to look under there to see the damage yet. 🥺. They call me BadLuck Brandon for a reason.

[@delkelso]

@@bdub3871 i think this video does a pretty good job of explaining how the lift system works. i'll bet this guy could give you some really good guidance on how to diagnose the problem, might be something simple. or maybe he would buy it for parts...just like junk cars, the aftermarket for parts has to exist, especially since these are not being manufactured anymore. i thought about buying something broken and trying to fix it, but my wife is pretty adamantly against a "project" camper. i live in the St. Louis Metro, are you anywhere close?

[@bdub3871]

Del Kelso ha, I know exactly where you’re coming from when ya mentioned the wife against any projects. Lol. Funny. Anyway, I am in Maryland. So I don’t think that’s really all that close. And thanks for the tips, you make a very valid point. I still need to make some time to look under the camper to see how much damage was done. This rain isn’t helping! Okay, thanks again for the advice. Be safe out there, and wish all well. Brandon 😷👍

[@delkelso]

@@bdub3871 just found an excellent video on lift system repair ruclips.net/video/5rPLy9_xpiQ/видео.html i also found an exploded parts diagram, but don't know how to send that thru reply. if you want a copy, send an email to [e-mail]

[@bdub3871]

Del Kelso good looking out! I really appreciate it. Thank you!

[@jimkeeling]

Easy and Smart video!!

[@popupcamperpro]

Thanks Jim!

[@xxoanxx]

Great video, i have an 05 Fleetwood Utah I was wondering if there is any safety support in place to prevent collapse if a lift cable happens to snap? I worry that a cable could snap while lifted. I was researching but wasn't able to find further info. Your insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[@popupcamperpro]

Not on Coleman and Fleetwoods. The screen door is the last roof brace in these units.

[@george777ify]

I have an early 2000 Coleman Sante Fe. All of a sudden when I crank the top up (to any height) I must hold the crank or the top will free fall back down. This started happening after the first time I used a drill attachment to raise the top. It worked great the first time going up. When I reversed the drill to lower the top, It came down at free fall speed. The next time I cranked up is when I discovered that it won't stay up. Any ideas as to what has gone wrong? Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

[@popupcamperpro]

I can help! Email me at [e-mail] and request a tech call for assistance please.

[@stephaniemoore3716]

What ended up being the problem? We just bought a 2000 Santa Fe and we have crank mechanism (have thought of getting the drill attachment,) but it is tight going up and slipping going down (as the crank tool is slipping not the roof.) When cranking down I have to turn it to the right again and catch it with a few clicks (tightening it) and then back left slowly lowering it down until it becomes loose again and I have to go right again to tighten with a few clicks. I am not sure what it going on. It feels like a stripped screw or something, but I just tighten back up a few clicks and then start back down again. It takes soooo long to get it down. And it is stiff cranking up.

[@derrickwyle7064]

Hi, I have a 2007 Fleetwood. I broke 1 cable, I took it to a shop and they replaced the cable. Everything is fine except the new cable either stretched or was never tensioned enough. Is tensioning that cable as simple as just tightening the nut attached to the threaded end of the cable at the whiffletree? I assume you would do this with the roof fully down so there is no tension on the cable. Then test and readjust. Currently the right-front corner won't start raising until the other corners are 2-3" high. THANKS!!

[@popupcamperpro]

It’s fixable. You have another adjustment point as well. Check out this video.
What Cable Goes Where On Coleman & Fleetwood Pop Up Campers
ruclips.net/video/l0fiKEsWDdk/видео.html
And the lift system repair manual.
colemanpopupparts.com/pages/repair-guides

[@dejet2220]

Hi Derek this is Dennis prado We spoke on the phone.That I had received the wrong style cables. For the Lift system. I've been trying to email you all day I don't know if the emails are going through or not. But the cables I need are the 2 front ones the longest ones. For my 2007 fleetwood E3

[@davespeicher5667]

We recently bought an almost immaculate 1999 Santa Fe and have used it 3 times already. Before our last trip out, I raised the top and extended the beds to load clothing, bedding, etc..
When I went to lower the top, the crank would not budge CCW. Per this video, it appears that the compression clutch & release system isn't working. I lowered the roof by holding the ratchet paw out of the way while cranking it down. I also had to do this when we were preparing to leave the campground and obviously I do not want to continue doing this.
How can I determine which direct-drive model this camper uses and what parts would I need to fix it? I do not want to buy the whole assembly for what I consider to be an outrageous price.

[@popupcamperpro]

Good parts are not cheap, and cheap parts are not good.

[@huevosatld]

We bought an old Coleman Fleetwood that doesn't raise all the way. (Lacks 3-4") Tried following your instructions to adjust it, but wasn't able to. Any suggestions?

[@popupcamperpro]

Sounds like it may be time for new cables. We have them available at our webstore.

[@christopherjames5192]

Just bought an 06 fleetwood Evo E1. I was curious how this system worked and now I know! If you know any helpful tips about that specific trailer let me know!

[@popupcamperpro]

Welcome to the club Christopher!

[@djr01974]

So on my 2010 sante Fe the manual just say to raise the roof all the way up or until the canvas is tight. I’ve noticed some videos that say don’t run the roof all the way up because you can damage the crank system. My question is do I run it all the way up and then back it down one click. To prevent damage or just run it up until it stops. This camper does not have a tension cable for visual use.

[@popupcamperpro]

Till the canvas is tight is just fine.

[@MrBeddie24]

Great video,
I have a 1999 Coleman Taos
I just find out on this video that we can not lubricate the crank assembly.
I put grease on it.
What should I do to remove?
Thank you!!

[@popupcamperpro]

Disassemble it and clean the pressure plate / clutch pad with brake cleaner.

[@MrBeddie24]

@@popupcamperpro I will try do it myself 🤣🤣
Thanks for tbe quick reply.

[@heatheryoung3185]

Hello! I have a '99 Taos direct crank in the bumper. I can hand crank it up and down just fine. But my power drill will not lift it. Why!?

[@popupcamperpro]

Hmmmm. Not sure on this one Heather.

[@michaelmanzella3376]

Hey Derek, appreciate all these helpful videos. I was recently gifted a 2005 bayside. The interior roof luan wet and peeling, the door actually fell off and hit me. Do you know of any videos or how to manuals to repair the entire ceiling properly? Thanks

[@popupcamperpro]

Micheal. You will want to replace the wet wood and panels. You can find many helpful videos on RUclips for this job.

[@johncarey8514]

I’m building a pop up catering trailer and this video was really helpful.
Question though… how to you set the tension on the lift cables running from the whiffle tree to the lift arms and Which end of the cable would you attach first?

[@popupcamperpro]

Please review the step by step instructions covering this on our webstore John.

[@paulkovacs1460]

Can that case be removed for fixing and or replace the cable or pulley

[@popupcamperpro]

Hello Paul! What case are you speaking of please?

[@jimkeeling]

Tks for taking my call.
Have any clue where and what this is for. In cabnet over wheel housing. Can send photo.....tks

[@popupcamperpro]

Probably an extra harness? This is to add optional equipment.

[@teiscotyrant]

I love your channel! My main routing bracket is rusted and the pulleys are not spinning despite lubrication. Can you tell me where I can find a replacement routing bracket? Appreciate the help

[@popupcamperpro]

For this clay you will want to contact a local metal fabricator.

[@mistykelischek7690]

So if my crank won’t engage when going cwc, what’s my solution?

[@popupcamperpro]

Diagnosis would be the first steps to find the source of the issue. Start with the drive hub tube.

[@michaelwguthrie]

Can you replace a main cable without removing the kift pillar fron the camper? If so, how do yo access the inside of the pillar to attach the new cable to the 45 degree bracket? If the lillar must be removed, how is that done? Drilling out the rivets?

[@popupcamperpro]

Please take a look at the lift system repair manual on colemanpopupparts.com for detailed step by step instructions.

[@nmangiafesto86]

This is great to see how it actually works. I have a 2000 Fleetwood Niagara Elite and when I am raising the camper up, it skips a lot and is extremely hard to raise. Could I need to replace something and is it easy to fix?

[@popupcamperpro]

Sounds like at least one culprit is the thrust bearing. Skipping can sometimes be a worn or loose chain as well.

[@blakerains2970]

Where do you go to buy a cable ? One of mine have snapped

[@popupcamperpro]

colemanpopupparts.com

[@user-cl4ys5qi5i]

What type of lubricant would you use on the parts you pointed out?

[@popupcamperpro]

Great question! Check out our DIY lift system maintenance video

[@Noold]

So is there a wY ti repair this system without taking the camper down to this level?

[@popupcamperpro]

Lol. Of course. This is just for a Birds Eye view only.

[@mattlamar2025]

Great videos! I recently bought 2000 Fleetwood Carmel. When raising it a broke the staging cable on the rear lift arm, drivers side. I saw your video on how to replace the cable but how to I remove the lifting arm to work on it? Or is there an easier way? Thanks

[@popupcamperpro]

You will want to remove it. Find these steps under the link INSTRUCTIONS on our webstore, and click on the conventional lift system repair manual.

[@a4SilverBullet]

Great video! Should the cable adjustment be done while the roof is fully closed? Or fully raised? Thanks!

[@popupcamperpro]

Fully raised is most common, since the lift arm needs to go back in when complete. After installation, test the system and preform any final adjustments after watching the roof raise and lower.

[@michaeldemeester5]

​@@popupcamperpro I have a 1988 Colman Sequoia. Need to know where to get cable?... & steps how to replace the Front-Door Side Cable from Whiftletree to first pulley?

[@satanismyusername]

I just bought a 07 Fleetwood element graphite. I felt like my lift system felt stiff/hard to raise (though I have never lifted a pop up before so I have no experience to compare mine to). I lubed all the pulleys and wiffle tree. Which may have helped, either way it's part of maintenance and I don't know if it has ever been done so no harm. Also my clutch assembly does not make the ratcheting sound that I'm hearing on most RUclips videos? And there is no "click" sound once the roof is fully raised? Which I assume is part of the clutch system? I suppose I might need to rebuild my clutch assembly and replace my bearing on the other side of the clutch assembly just before the tree? One last thing, the other day I was closing the camper up and realized that I had forgot to put something inside, so I started to crank the roof back up ( at which this time I did actually hear the ratcheting sound, which made me scratch my head). After roughly 2 revolutions I then realized that the corner latches were secured so I immediately stopped and rolled her back down and called myself an idiot. Did I potentially damage anything or stretch any cables doing this? Also, love your videos. They are very informative and helpful, keep up the great work.

[@popupcamperpro]

Welcome to the club MCallahan! Your Graphite should be around 90 foot pounds of torque to raise. At this rating, it should be very easy to lift. If it is difficult, thrust bearings are a leading culprit for hard to raise roof issues. For the compression, you may have reset it with the roof latches clasped. This issue is commonly the drive hub extension tube is not fully compressing to the pressure plate. Check out some of our videos on this system and the diagnostics / repairs.

[@stevenbullock9276]

Thanks for the video. We have a '97 Fleetwood Key West, and everything in the lift system looks the same, except it's not the direct drive crank. We've had it opened/ closed several times this year- as we're repairing it- and all of a sudden it doesn't want to open more than a couple feet, then it starts turning really hard. I tried lifting each corner by hand and they all seem free. Any thoughts?

[@popupcamperpro]

Steven Bullock if the problem appeared suddenly, I would recommend checking the whiffle tree. You may have a “mouse in the house”

[@jolynn8675]

Thank you! This is very helpful to show me where to lubricate. Do you have a video on how to grease the whiffletree?

[@popupcamperpro]

Not yet. Remove the pan cover, have some rubber gloves and liberally grease the entire rod length.

[@jolynn8675]

@@popupcamperpro Thank you!

[@djtblizzle]

@@popupcamperpro how do I remove the pan cover?

[@vwspeedracer]

@@djtblizzle I actually found this video in a recommendations after a video showing the full whiffletree greasing process. ruclips.net/video/vBkS9BWx-R0/видео.html

[@alexgeier7326]

Got an 84 coleman with someone's home job system replacing the original which doesn't work, can you buy stuff to replace original

[@popupcamperpro]

We have options. A direct drive 3000 series crank or if it’s chain driven the 4141 upper cranks are good places to start.

[@hometeaching3]

Spray lubricant: silicone or oil?

[@popupcamperpro]

A little of all for chain driven systems. Take a look at our diy lift system maintenance video for more assistance

[@ericgeorgiou5948]

Great video. Learned a lot in the short video. I have a Fleetwood identical the the one you showed in the video. Today' as I was cranking to open it, the gear was not making the clicking sound that locks the top of the camper from coming down. I tried manually turning the gear and it seems to work as it was "clicking", but not when cranking it. Any thoughts on what could be causing this? I would like to add about 3 or 4 years ago I was told by a local RV dealer the only maintenance to do on pop-up campers is to lubricate the crank assembly and the box that contains the the gears. So I did...and continued to do so every year since. I was not told anything about lubricating the pullies and wiffletree. Could that be what's causing this 'non-clicking" problem? After watching your video, I sprayed the crank assembly and gears with grease remover and I'm letting it sit overnight....hoping to get rid of the lubricant. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

[@ericgeorgiou5948]

I figured it out thanks to one of the other videos you posted. Thank you!!

[@klapat7749]

My Coleman pop up camper doesn't stay up? Which part do I need to change? The cables easily go up, but the system doesn't lock. Thanks

[@popupcamperpro]

This is commonly a drive hub extension issue.

[@billykaripedersen3646]

Is there anyway to adjust chain tension other than cutting the welds and repositioning the brackets? Also my chain is wanting to jump off the bottom gear then popping back on, could this be caused by worn out bearings. 02’ Utah series.

[@popupcamperpro]

Hello Billy! You can remove the chain master link, then add or remove links. Half links are available as well at colemanpopupparts.com
For your lift system question, please give us a call at the shop when you have a few minutes to talk for helpful and professional assistance.

[@sllashbr]

A simple question: my crank feels like I’m forcing it. 96 sun valley. Gets up about half way then real stiff. Any suggestions?

[@popupcamperpro]

Start with the do it yourself lift system maintenance video first.

[@The_Irish_Rover]

How much total weight can just the lift system hold while open? If there was no roof, no canvas, just the arms.

[@popupcamperpro]

About 300 to 400 pounds is common. It comes down to the tree size and specs. Not all units are the same.

[@The_Irish_Rover]

@@popupcamperpro Thank you, I have the 2003 Yuma.

[@DougRosenthal]

You mention to spray lubricant on the lower and upper pulleys in the video. 1st question: Can I use WB-40 or do you recommend a different type of spray lubricant?
2nd question: I seen another video that the guy recommends the grease he uses for his wheel bearings to grease the wiffle tree. What kind or brand of grease do you recommend?

[@popupcamperpro]

Hello Doug!
Any all purpose spray lubricant designed for machinery will work on the pulleys. For grease, all purpose axle and bearing grease works well.
Grease can be graded by how far it “strings” between your fingers.
Take a look at your local auto parts store for a wide range of these products. Regular maintenance is more important than the name brand in my opinion.

[@tennesseeguy9186]

I recently found this channel, and it has been very helpful!! My wife & I own a 2010 Coleman Utah with the power lift system, and I have a question.. The power lift feature will only work when hooked up to shore power. Is that how it is supposed to be? Or should it be able to work off battery alone as well? Thanks, and keep the videos coming!!

[@popupcamperpro]

TennesseeGuy91 It’s recommended that the power lift feature only be used when on 12 V battery power.

[@rizmartin6355]

@@popupcamperpro That is correct! AC power will strip the gear - happened to our 2007 Arcadia

[@always1019]

I just recently discovered a love for pop up campers but I'm trying to find a fixer upper that I can do. I found one but it has a lot of damage on the rear of the tent. It is worth investing in it? I think they want 500 😖

[@popupcamperpro]

If you don't buy it I might!

[@WiWaChanpi]

I have a 2000 Sante fe and the swing door is not working. It fell and hit my husband in the head! Please show us how to fix it. One of the ceiling clips snapped.

[@popupcamperpro]

We have videos covering this question! Please view the stepper door related videos right on this channel.

[@WiWaChanpi]

@@popupcamperpro thank you. I actually found one after posting this! I'm currently trying to find the broken piece that caused his injury.

[@cynthiadiaz8421]

Hello, My problem with my pop up Camper is that when closing the right corner doesn't close completely as the others side. That can be a problem? Or is normal?

[@popupcamperpro]

This is not normal, and should be addressed. I recommend starting with a cable adjustment at the whiffle tree for this corner.

[@heatherpyle4692]

I have a 1971 Coleman 580. It has a major issue. It has decided not to crank up or down. We took off the whiffletree cover and after watching other videos it seems to look fine. My husband had me try to crank it. It still won’t go up or down. The crank does move about 3 inches either way. That’s when my husband noticed that the bar on the whiffle tree is hitting the bottom of the camper floor. Just wondering if anyone knows anything about why or what could be wrong?

[@popupcamperpro]

Heather, the pan cover needs to be on when cranking, or the drawbar on the tree will hit the floor. Please give me a call at the shop when it’s convenient for you to diagnose what other issue the system is having.

[@jeffrheem8876]

hello, thanks for the awesome videos!
i have 2011 coleman yuma popup camper,
i have no problem raising the roof, but when i try to lower it , it gets stuck, so i had to crawl under and had to grab little piece to free up. is there any solution or parts that i have to replace? hope you understood what im asking

[@popupcamperpro]

Hmmm, please give me a call at the shop this week Jeff.

[@andyhamilton8940]

What is the best way to access the pullies and cables for lube on the lift pillars?

[@popupcamperpro]

You will need to remove the sections of canvas in front of them.

[@randallrobinson442]

Do u know where I can get a 2000 Coleman Fleetwood Tacoma ac circuit breaker

[@popupcamperpro]

Sure! Please visit our webstore.

[@cardscollectibles5682]

Hello, is there any recommended Preventative maintenance to the crank assembly? Also, what kind of lubricant do you recommend? I have a 1998 Coleman Mesa. Thank you

[@popupcamperpro]

Good questions! Please take a look at our video DIY lift system service for these answers and more.

[@nwader]

I mounted a steel roof rack to the top of my 2010 coleman Santa Fe and was wondering if it is unsafe to simply add a 6 foot PVC solar water tube up there and if an additional roughly 70 pounds of water would be a bad idea to expect my lift system to sustain or is that ok?

[@popupcamperpro]

Nick, this much additional weight, especially if an A/C is installed as well might be a bit much. I would also be concerned with the volume of water moving when your raising and lowering the roof, as well as using the camper. I can say I personally would not.

[@alcornat3]

Thanks for the great video! We have a 2005 Fleetwood Sun Valley cranking mechanism that I believe is malfunctioning. When I crank the top up, I don't hear the clickty-clack and then the roof will lower. However, if I crank the top all the way up and over-turn a half turn, it will lock back into place. What would be the cause of this issue?

[@popupcamperpro]

Andy, You will want to fix the issue with the drive hub extension tube as soon as possible. I am working on a video right now with extensive damage to a Niagara that occurred from the exact same situation that you are describing.

[@alcornat3]

Thank you for the quick reply! Is the issue just the drive hub extension or does it need a complete overhaul as you completed in the video above? Also, where is the best place to find the part?@@popupcamperpro

[@laurendooling598]

Help! We have a 1999 Coleman Fleetwood Westlake.. We believe we have the same lift system showed in the video, our popup is stuck popped up. It seems to skip when we attempt to crank down.

[@popupcamperpro]

I would start with an inspection of the whiffle tree.

[@davidfavara3713]

I have 1983 Rockwood and the gears on the larger gear to raise the roof have lost some teeth. What are my options?

[@popupcamperpro]

Your rockwood may use one of the drive shafts available at our web store. I would recommend that you compare the images and measurements.

[@cary1235]

Can anyone tell me why mine won't go back down?

[@popupcamperpro]

This could be a number of issues. Feel free to give me a call at the shop at colemanpopupparts.com for professional assistance

[@courtneyoneal8845]

Great tips! At the end of this video especially. But, how do you access the different parts of the lift system on a fully assembled pop up?

[@popupcamperpro]

From under the camper, and behind the sections of canvas for the lift arms.

[@michaeldemeester5]

@@popupcamperpro I have a 1988 Colman Sequoia. Need to know where to get & replace the Front-Door Side Cable from Whiftletree to first pulley.

[@katta6599]

Hey guys. Love your videos. We have an 84 Coleman Pop Up and are having trouble pulling off the front panel to more easily access the crank gear to replace it. Do you have a video on this or know of how to get it off? We have tried a few times but the plastic is so brittle we do not want to force it and brake it. Thank you.

[@popupcamperpro]

Hello Katt! You should find rivets along the top, and screws along the bottom. The sides may have double sided tape along them. Use a heat gun and a non marring plastic dash tool in these areas to remove it.

[@katta6599]

@@popupcamperpro thanks for your reply. Much appreciated.

[@scarson216]

Thank you for this video.. my 2017 Somerset e3 has the same system and binds at almost the roof being fully up. I was told by my dealer to remove old grease and replace grease. I did that, and roof still doesn’t go to full extension and now the wiffle tree sways left to right hitting that metal plate making loud noise on the roof going down.. any suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated.

[@popupcamperpro]

It sounds like you may need a new tree in your camper. There should be no sway in the tree.

[@scarson216]

@@popupcamperpro thank you for the help.. any suggestion on grease for new one..

[@deborahmclain5319]

Hi Pop-Up Camper Pro! Can you tell me how to find the right whiffle tree part for my 2006 Fleetwood Taos pop-up camper? Thanks!

[@popupcamperpro]

Sure can! Your camper calls for part number 4749C6731. In stock at coolemanpopupparts.com and ready to ship!

[@charlesm8834]

Mr. Smith, have you ever or ever heard of anyone customizing a pop up to a hard sided like and Apache ? we bought out camplite pop up (the large one with the shower) mid summer of last year knowing of the canvas issues. now as it is time to replace it and knowing that we are thinking of trips out west and down south to the land of apex predator's i'm giving thought to reconstructing ours into this. any idea's or suggestions would be awesome
thank you
chuck

[@popupcamperpro]

Hello Chuck. This I am not familiar with. If you proceed with the conversation please let me know how it go’s.

[@kathleenbye9098]

Do you guys have any videos on how to take off and put a new whiffletree on? We have a 1999 coleman sun valley and having a hard time finding a video on how to take whiffletree off.

[@popupcamperpro]

Coming soon! For now please use the lift system repair manual for step by step instructions.
colemanpopupparts.com/pages/repair-guides

[@RebeccaGeorge-wj5rn]

@@popupcamperpro have you made the whiffletree video? having trouble replacing it on the power lift for 2007 bayside. thanks

[@popupcamperpro]

Coming soon!

[@Wisdomcalls1]

My 2008 fleetwood roof is lower on one side by about a 1" what can I do to fix it

[@popupcamperpro]

Adjust that cable at the whiffle tree drawbar for minor adjustments, or at the pulley routing brackets before the lift arm for major adjustments.

[@kristagosselin693]

I have a 86 laramine and need to replace the lift cable but cant seem to find the length that they should be . Is the front shorter than the back ? If anyone can help that would be great .

[@popupcamperpro]

Hello Krista! The front cable are commonly a different length from the rear. I always recommend using the old cable as a template to make the replacement. If you need more help in talking through the replacement, please give me a call at the shop at colemanpopupparts.com

[@cofferful]

Should all four main lift cables be tight when the camper is closed, or is a slight bit of slack okay?

[@popupcamperpro]

A bit of slack is OK Cofferful

[@cofferful]

@@popupcamperpro thanks for the reply!

[@nancysullivan5070]

New to a popup why do i need a battery if im hook up to shore power

[@popupcamperpro]

The battery works as a filter for the 12 volt system. Without one, all your 12 volt equipment is fed step modified sine voltage, which 12 volt equipment does not preform well with.

[@nancysullivan5070]

And if I run my air conditioner do I need a battery do I need it for the converter

[@popupcamperpro]

No need for a battery to run the ac Nancy. These are 120v units.

[@33buddyrich]

How much play should the post arms have? I have a 2005 Sun Valley and its cranks up and down fine but I find there is a lot of play side to side (left/right not fore/aft) in the posts when up. Doesn't feel solid. Wondering if its just my imagination or perhaps its not completely level and is slightly leaning, the awning on the door side weighing it more that way or if its something with lift system. Any suggests on what to check?

[@popupcamperpro]

The roof will seem to have some “play” when raising. Without the screen door in you can push the roof for and aft a bit. Once the door is in, it should be stabilized.

[@33buddyrich]

​@@popupcamperpro I do have some left to right sway when its up but fore-aft is pretty solid (with the door in). I guess this is normal.

[@ve3yjt]

Is anything, related to the lift system, attached to the underside of the floor? or can the floor be removed (from inside the camper) without fear of the roof coming down unexpectedly?

[@popupcamperpro]

Of the many I have worked on, diagnosed, etc the lift system is contained to the frame of the camper. I cannot say with certainty that this is always the case with every model of coleman and Fleetwoods.

[@ve3yjt]

Pop up camper pro Thanks!

[@mtmdc2]

Another great video! Will you ever do any on the Flagstaff PUPs? Especially the Goshen lift system? There’s not much on RUclips about them and what there is is inferior to your videos.

[@popupcamperpro]

One day Mark. Plans are to cover more manufactures and equipment.

[@tannerkuramata6870]

Great video, What lubricant is recommended? also, how can you access the whiffle tree to lube that if the camper is not fulling taken apart like yours?

[@popupcamperpro]

A good all purpose grease will work fine. Many people prefer red silicone grease. To access the whiffle tree, remove the whiffle tree pan cover. Stay tuned for a brand new video showing these steps in the coming days.

[@tannerkuramata6870]

@@popupcamperpro I appreciate it. I'll be looking out for that video

[@tannerkuramata6870]

Do you have a video on how to adjust the lift cables? I looked under my E1 and one of the cables isnt pulled tight and has a slight sag. What could go wrong if its not completely tight?

[@popupcamperpro]

Please give me a call at the shop for this question.

[@michaeldemeester5]

@@popupcamperpro I have a 1988 Colman Sequoia. Need to know where to get cable?... & steps how to replace the Front-Door Side Cable from Whiftletree to first pulley? Please shoot me link to show steps to replace. Thanks.

[@MichaelKline]

We have an '86 Coleman Newport and it has 2 cranking shafts. One is higher on the trailer and one is lower near the trailer frame (as in this video) i can't find information on the upper crank. Anyone know about this?

[@popupcamperpro]

We do! Please take a look at the video “the evolution of coleman lift systems” to learn more about your camper. You can always contact us at colemanpopupparts.com as well.
Here’s a link to the video.
ruclips.net/video/tETIJ8g7n2w/видео.html

[@MichaelKline]

@@popupcamperpro Thanks!!

[@yamaha1675]

Great video but wished u would have shown how to adjust the cables

[@popupcamperpro]

A video covering this request is planned. Thanks for writing!

[@sewing3530]

@@popupcamperpro im also interested in a video showing this. I've read the directions from the conventional lift system repair manual, but i don't know if i should do the corner adjustable pully brackets, or adjust the cable length. Im 3.5 inches lower on 3 corners. Door is impossible to install correctly. Pullies all seem to be working. I just have a lot of slack in those 3 cables when roof is down, so i don't think the adjustable pully brackets will give me enough tension on those cables.

[@popupcamperpro]

Sewing♡ do you have enough adjustment at the whiffle tree draw bar to take up the slack? If so I recommend starting there. If this doesn’t work, you may need to replace the cables or move the pulleys.

[@christineboozer9980]

Hello, do I need safety posts for my 2007 fleetwood sante fe?

[@popupcamperpro]

Hello Christine! You do not. The screen door acts as the roof brace in Coleman / Fleetwood pop up campers.

[@codytipton90]

I have a couple questions do you have a email or a way I could contact you

[@popupcamperpro]

I sure do! Please visit colemanpopupparts.com and click the contact link.
colemanpopupparts.com/pages/contact

[@davidd166]

so we have a Coleman that had the driveshaft of the crack break off. I'm guessing that I need to replace the whole thing, do you have a video on how to do that?

[@popupcamperpro]

If the unit is a late 1990's model or newer then you can always replace just the drive shaft if need be. In earlier systems an entire assembly is typically required for this component failure. I will get some videos in the works showing the dis assembly and re assembly of each system for you David. If you let me know your year and model, I can get that one done first. Thanks for writing!

[@davidd166]

@@popupcamperpro it's a 1995 coleman cedar. so what it does not have is the 5/8" nut inside the shaft, it has a slotted screw which bested a few of my screwdrivers.

[@popupcamperpro]

David Ducker these can be quite stubborn to remove. Here are the steps I take. First chemical penetrant. Then an air chisel to worry it loose. If both these fail, I cut the tube off just in front of the nut. One of these three will do the job. You’ve got this!

[@davidd166]

@@popupcamperpro cool, ok I'll get to it this weekend. Is the nut normal threaded or reverse threaded? Would be good to know before I hit it with an impact wrench

[@davidd166]

ok, so it's normal threaded. hit it with chemical penetrant then use a torch for a bit. get your impact wrench on the highest setting and that thing comes out like butter. I just ordered a new shaft from you this morning.

[@dandcp]

What sort of spray lube is best to use on the pulleys?

[@popupcamperpro]

Any high quality all purpose spray lube is good. I would not recommend any penetrant type.

[@chrissytoddgunter1146]

Is there a video that shows how to remove that whiffle tree case from underneath so we can lubricate?

[@2explore828]

Thh hi is was great!

[@popupcamperpro]

thank you for watching and writing!

[@thebrock12]

Where can you buy parts for these things

[@popupcamperpro]

Colemanpopupparts is who I recommend!

[@michaeldemeester5]

@@popupcamperpro I have a 1988 Colman Sequoia. Need to know where to get cable?... & steps how to replace the Front-Door Side Cable from Whiftletree to first pulley?...web site not linking...Do you have company & phone #?

[@jackdampier9520]

so many moving parts to maintain and not easy to replace when unserviceable. i don't like the design