Another solid video/demo. That's extremely impressive for a 12V saw! I have the version 1 and it's a great saw for small stuff or small jobs. This one looks like a BIG improvement in power size and battery life. The most striking feature to me is the small footprint. Notice that the motor doesn't stick out to the right like mine. That may not seem like a big deal, but it will allow you to pack it in a MUCH smaller space. The reason I love the M12 line is that you can carry/pack so many more tools and that there are so many tools in the line. Some folks hate the torpedo style batteries that plug in like these, but THAT is exactly what allows you to pack so many tools in a small box or bag. The slide pack tools have the large slide socket that takes up space. Looks like another one on the Christmas list.
I have the original version and have been pleased with it. Great for reducing sheet lumber and other small projects. Always appreciate your tool reviews.
I use one of these on the job as a handyman and it does well enough cutting doors to length, cutting dimensional lumber for fences/decks, etc. It is not the same power as a 18V or corded saw, so it can bog down were you have to push it through wet lumber (like PT deck boards) at times. It's not for everyone, but for me it's light weight and good and making occasional cuts with good accuracy. Anything production I move up the M18 saw I also have.
Currently going for $99 dollars at stores and online @ home depot. The tool by itself appears to be sold out online, so you're best bet is going to be to talk to your local milwaukee rep at a home depot store and have him look for it. The HD employees (for some reason) are always sluggish to look for a product and will give up after one try. Also, use a diablo or milwaukee white blade for better results
The Home Depot stores in Southern New England all got at least one of the bare tool (-20) versions for stock sale. I purchased one this morning, and the advertised price on the web and in the store was $99. (!) There was a very substantial vacuum attachment included in the box. Interestingly, I was able to swap the metal blade guard from the old M12 saw onto the new one. This was an extremely quick swap, requiring only removal of a snap ring and couple of screws. Don’t lose the washer that goes on the outboard side of the plastic blade guard if you are installing the plastic guard on another saw. Because the stores only have one or two in stock, you can’t order it online for store pick up. In fact, finding the single unit that was in stock at my local store took a little bit of hunting around.
Around the 2:15 mark, are you saying it doesn’t include a dust port? I just bought the tool only and the dust port included comes with a single screw to permanently attach it. It also clips on and seems like it would hold long enough to make a few cuts and take it off easily.
Mine did not come with a dust port. Sorry for the bad info. The box on this M12 and M18 were pretty bad, but the M12 was in a bag so I assumed it was all there. Sorry again.
I wonder if the early units that they shipped out for reviews were shipped before they had the dust port available? I bought a bare tool this morning and it had the dust port in the box.
Hi. Do you know if i can use a 150mm saw on this tool because i need to cat 45mm timbers everyday, but i know this saw 140mm on the tool cut 44mm only. Thank you for the video.
About time they updated their over 10 year older gen 1 model. The old one was under-powered in torque. If you went slightly off of 90 degrees on a cross cut on a 2x4 it would bog down or cut out.
I don't mind using corded tools around house. For you're living I can understand cordless convenience. I have some Craftsman cordless stuff I just upgraded to lithium Ion batteries at least the older Craftsman EX allowed for that
i use to have the gen 1 m12 circular saw and it sucked. I ended up getting rid of it for a m18 6 1/2 fuel version. This gen 2 for sure looks way stronger than the gen 1.
Impressive performance for a 12V circ saw. As long as you realize its capabilities and not expect performance similar to a 6 1/2" or 7 1/4" circ saw then you should be fine.
Do you think it’s significantly better in power over the old generation? I tried the old version and returned it when I had trouble making 45 degree angled cuts on 2x6 lumber. So I returned it and got a 6 1/2” saw, but I do want a small saw like this though. I wish Milwaukee would have increased the RPM’s to like 4000+ rpm’s.
@@WorkshopAddict I’m surprised that they changed the metal blade guard for a plastic guard, should have left that alone in my opinion. Since it is still a smaller all around saw then my Ridgid Subcompact 6 1/2” saw, I may still try it out to have a smaller saw! It was hard to tell but how did the sight line blower work to you? Great review my friend!
I was set to get the DEWALT XTREME™ 12V MAX BRUSHLESS 5-3/8" CIRCULAR SAW (Tool Only) (DCS512B) from Lowe's when I saw this. I compared the two and found the DeWALT has a deeper cut at 1 3/4", uses DeWALT standard 12volt batteries, comes with a rip fence and a dust collection shute. I don't know if it is smaller but DeWALT power has never let me down.
Not hitting 1.5” at a 45 is a miss imo. Makes it a lot less useful for framing and about 90% of what you’d want to do with it. Sure you can use it until you need to cut a 45 then grab another saw, but that’s lame. I get that most framers would rather use a bigger more powerful saw with longer battery life, but I can think of dozens of places a small light saw would be really nice while framing.
I'm a roofer in the UK, I'm buying this as I have changed from dewalt to milwaukee and am building up my milwaukee gear as I go. I want a small, lightweight saw solely for cutting 2x1 roof battens. Using 18v 160mm saws is far too much saw for the job. This little saw will burn through 2x1 all day and also allow me to cut rafters as and when I have to replace them. The only issue I have is the UK price. This saw with the 5ah battery is £320. This amazes me when I know in America it can be bought for 200 dollars which is around £170. So why am I paying twice as much for the exact same tool just because I live in a shit hole country that taxes its people and clearly wants to see us all starve to death. Its hard enough to make a living in this world without paying twice what something is worth purely on the basis that I love in England. Fucking joke.
No, you're supposed to use the pommel all the time, guy in the video doesn't know any better, lucky for him almost all saws have blade guards nowadays so even if you do screw up the damage is limited. Worst you can do is fingers under board to support offcut that's how people cut their fingers off, another reason to use the pommel is a lot of saws have a Deadman switch so if a kickback does occur you can simply hold the pommel side and let go on the trigger side which should activate the brakes preventing any further damage
He’s pinching the table of the saw to keep his cut true, sometimes idiots will answer and they are convinced they are the smartest people on the internet. Yet they’re still idiots.
@@paraxicgaming5743fingers get cut off reaching behind the saw to support the work piece, and the rest of your comment is just crap. Stop spreading misinformation
@@lighterknot4385 buddy I do this shit professionally I know what I'm talking about, come troll when you're turning away $100k+ jobs because your booked halfway into next year.
I’m curious how the 12v Dewalt saw would compare, but I don’t think they make an equivalent battery. It appears as though their “extreme” line isn’t doing much.
@@WorkshopAddict I’m not well versed in things Milwaukee, but I thought their high output batteries were using pouch cells like the powerstack batteries. Ami I mistaken?
What is the point of testing on something it shouldn’t be used for? Yeah it can do it , but how about accuracy on thin materials that it would be good for.
Why do you pinch the base of the saw with your fingers in order to create a guide for ripping the OSB? It always makes me cringe when guys do this. One little slip of your hand or the saw and it’s your fingers getting cut! Use the rip guide instead.
@@WorkshopAddict The reason why I even notice it is because about 4 years ago I had an accident with a circular saw. I was holding the saw with my right hand and occasionally supporting the long piece I was ripping with my left hand (way out in front of the saw). The long board was clamped to two sawhorses but as I neared the end of the rip the board was bending down and I unexplainably put my left hand under the board to support it but this time instead of way in front of the saw I put all four fingers right into the saw blade. They were mangled pretty badly--cutting one about half way through at the tip joint (including the tendon) and cutting another almost entirely off at the tip joint (ultimately that finger was saved by the one artery that still remained and the little bit of skin that held it on). I was in a remote location in a 3rd world country, so by the time I was medevaced to a location where I could have surgery it was about 18 hours later. Thankfully, I still have all four fingers and I can still (with a huge amount of effort and practice) play the classical guitar without being hindered too much even though the middle two fingers don't function much after the last joint. That being said, I have taken carefulness with a circular saw to an entirely new level. Tongue-in-cheek I often tell people that I highly recommend not cutting your hand--and if you do, definitely don't use a circular saw to do it!
Another solid video/demo. That's extremely impressive for a 12V saw! I have the version 1 and it's a great saw for small stuff or small jobs. This one looks like a BIG improvement in power size and battery life. The most striking feature to me is the small footprint. Notice that the motor doesn't stick out to the right like mine. That may not seem like a big deal, but it will allow you to pack it in a MUCH smaller space.
The reason I love the M12 line is that you can carry/pack so many more tools and that there are so many tools in the line. Some folks hate the torpedo style batteries that plug in like these, but THAT is exactly what allows you to pack so many tools in a small box or bag. The slide pack tools have the large slide socket that takes up space. Looks like another one on the Christmas list.
Rocking the OG, nice to see they managed to get it even smaller! Also nice to finally see somebody reviewing a FUEL tool with a HO battery!
I have the original version and have been pleased with it. Great for reducing sheet lumber and other small projects. Always appreciate your tool reviews.
Thank you!
I use one of these on the job as a handyman and it does well enough cutting doors to length, cutting dimensional lumber for fences/decks, etc. It is not the same power as a 18V or corded saw, so it can bog down were you have to push it through wet lumber (like PT deck boards) at times. It's not for everyone, but for me it's light weight and good and making occasional cuts with good accuracy. Anything production I move up the M18 saw I also have.
Currently going for $99 dollars at stores and online @ home depot. The tool by itself appears to be sold out online, so you're best bet is going to be to talk to your local milwaukee rep at a home depot store and have him look for it. The HD employees (for some reason) are always sluggish to look for a product and will give up after one try.
Also, use a diablo or milwaukee white blade for better results
Can you do a versus with the Skil 12v circular saw?
The Home Depot stores in Southern New England all got at least one of the bare tool (-20) versions for stock sale. I purchased one this morning, and the advertised price on the web and in the store was $99. (!) There was a very substantial vacuum attachment included in the box. Interestingly, I was able to swap the metal blade guard from the old M12 saw onto the new one. This was an extremely quick swap, requiring only removal of a snap ring and couple of screws. Don’t lose the washer that goes on the outboard side of the plastic blade guard if you are installing the plastic guard on another saw.
Because the stores only have one or two in stock, you can’t order it online for store pick up. In fact, finding the single unit that was in stock at my local store took a little bit of hunting around.
Around the 2:15 mark, are you saying it doesn’t include a dust port?
I just bought the tool only and the dust port included comes with a single screw to permanently attach it. It also clips on and seems like it would hold long enough to make a few cuts and take it off easily.
On second look, the “second screw hole” is not actually for screws. It is where the back of the spring sits for the blade guard.
Mine did not come with a dust port. Sorry for the bad info. The box on this M12 and M18 were pretty bad, but the M12 was in a bag so I assumed it was all there. Sorry again.
I wonder if the early units that they shipped out for reviews were shipped before they had the dust port available? I bought a bare tool this morning and it had the dust port in the box.
@@johnnewell5025same here. I had the dust port
Try it with a Diablo or white Milwaukee blade and you'll notice even more performance!
These 12v saws are so versatile for the homeowner! I have the dewalt version and love it for yard work. Perfect for cutting down fallen tree branches!
no offense but who is using a circular saw to cut down tree branches?
@@Dudleyism1 Me. The branches were already down. I just broken them down with the saw. Very quick and easy!
The Dewalt 12volt is just as small, I have one love it
How would this compare to the Dewalt Xtreme 12v. Wood be a good comparison test. See what I did there.
Hi. Do you know if i can use a 150mm saw on this tool because i need to cat 45mm timbers everyday, but i know this saw 140mm on the tool cut 44mm only. Thank you for the video.
New Milwaukee saws at 12 & 18v look great but I'm still happy to roll with the Metabo HPT 6.5" Deep Cut... until there is a crazy sale, of course
That Deep Cut is a VERY sweet saw. I have no clue why Milwaukee has not done the same. It would solve so many framers issues.
About time they updated their over 10 year older gen 1 model. The old one was under-powered in torque. If you went slightly off of 90 degrees on a cross cut on a 2x4 it would bog down or cut out.
This is a huge improvement as you would expect over that time frame.
That 5 HO battery is great.
I don't mind using corded tools around house. For you're living I can understand cordless convenience. I have some Craftsman cordless stuff I just upgraded to lithium Ion batteries at least the older Craftsman EX allowed for that
i use to have the gen 1 m12 circular saw and it sucked. I ended up getting rid of it for a m18 6 1/2 fuel version. This gen 2 for sure looks way stronger than the gen 1.
Impressive performance for a 12V circ saw.
As long as you realize its capabilities and not expect performance similar to a 6 1/2" or 7 1/4" circ saw then you should be fine.
Why didn’t you compare it to the old one?
Do you think it’s significantly better in power over the old generation? I tried the old version and returned it when I had trouble making 45 degree angled cuts on 2x6 lumber. So I returned it and got a 6 1/2” saw, but I do want a small saw like this though. I wish Milwaukee would have increased the RPM’s to like 4000+ rpm’s.
Yes, and you are watching me cut 2x6's in the video
@@WorkshopAddict I’m surprised that they changed the metal blade guard for a plastic guard, should have left that alone in my opinion. Since it is still a smaller all around saw then my Ridgid Subcompact 6 1/2” saw, I may still try it out to have a smaller saw! It was hard to tell but how did the sight line blower work to you? Great review my friend!
@@txvet7738 Sight line blower works great right in front of the blade. It was windy outside so it was hard to see what was really doing what!
Heyo two stacks of OSB!!!!!! That’s no joke!!!!
I was set to get the DEWALT XTREME™ 12V MAX BRUSHLESS 5-3/8" CIRCULAR SAW (Tool Only) (DCS512B) from Lowe's when I saw this. I compared the two and found the DeWALT has a deeper cut at 1 3/4", uses DeWALT standard 12volt batteries, comes with a rip fence and a dust collection shute. I don't know if it is smaller but DeWALT power has never let me down.
Heh, brand info wars😂😂😂
I have the Dewalt 12 get one just as small love mine
Ability to connect Vacuum is huge
What about the 4 1/2 dewalt??
This is half the size. That is long!
So it can runs on 6amps battery? Wonder if there's 8amps battery if it runs 8amps? Hey, Good review mate. Thanks. (thumbs up)
How does it compare to their m18 5-3/8 saw 2782-20
Very similar IMHO as long as you are not putting a forge battery on the m18
@WorkshopAddict good to know. I hope m12 gets a forge battery at some point
@@james2042 That would be interesting! I would assume it would be a cylindrical tabless design. Who knows. I bet it comes soon.
Not hitting 1.5” at a 45 is a miss imo. Makes it a lot less useful for framing and about 90% of what you’d want to do with it. Sure you can use it until you need to cut a 45 then grab another saw, but that’s lame.
I get that most framers would rather use a bigger more powerful saw with longer battery life, but I can think of dozens of places a small light saw would be really nice while framing.
Just got this saw today at HD for $99. Now I need those expensive HO 5.0 batteries to go on sale.
There’s an online only deal from Home Depot for a 2.5 and 5.0 kit for $100.
@@pmeli114yup and a charger!
Makita sells a 5” circular saw and is a smaller footprint than that. They also sell. A 3” circular saw.
Makita have an XGT 5" but its only on sale in Japan.
Debating between this and the Makita HS005. I need a smaller/lighter circ. for smalls jobs. It’ll also save space in my pack out.
Thanks for the run down, do not recommend the m12 6.0 battery though, they suck all of the internet (reddit, 😮) knows this also.
I'm a roofer in the UK, I'm buying this as I have changed from dewalt to milwaukee and am building up my milwaukee gear as I go. I want a small, lightweight saw solely for cutting 2x1 roof battens. Using 18v 160mm saws is far too much saw for the job. This little saw will burn through 2x1 all day and also allow me to cut rafters as and when I have to replace them. The only issue I have is the UK price. This saw with the 5ah battery is £320. This amazes me when I know in America it can be bought for 200 dollars which is around £170. So why am I paying twice as much for the exact same tool just because I live in a shit hole country that taxes its people and clearly wants to see us all starve to death. Its hard enough to make a living in this world without paying twice what something is worth purely on the basis that I love in England. Fucking joke.
Same here fella but I’m going to take a guess and say export cost etc, still a joke though with double the cost 👍
1:15 is that where you're supposed to put your hand on the saw?
No, you're supposed to use the pommel all the time, guy in the video doesn't know any better, lucky for him almost all saws have blade guards nowadays so even if you do screw up the damage is limited. Worst you can do is fingers under board to support offcut that's how people cut their fingers off, another reason to use the pommel is a lot of saws have a Deadman switch so if a kickback does occur you can simply hold the pommel side and let go on the trigger side which should activate the brakes preventing any further damage
He’s pinching the table of the saw to keep his cut true, sometimes idiots will answer and they are convinced they are the smartest people on the internet. Yet they’re still idiots.
@@paraxicgaming5743fingers get cut off reaching behind the saw to support the work piece, and the rest of your comment is just crap. Stop spreading misinformation
@@lighterknot4385 buddy I do this shit professionally I know what I'm talking about, come troll when you're turning away $100k+ jobs because your booked halfway into next year.
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I’m curious how the 12v Dewalt saw would compare, but I don’t think they make an equivalent battery. It appears as though their “extreme” line isn’t doing much.
They do have a 5Ah battery, but performance is nothing like this.
@@WorkshopAddict I’m not well versed in things Milwaukee, but I thought their high output batteries were using pouch cells like the powerstack batteries. Ami I mistaken?
@@sswwooppee The Forge Battery in the M18 line in the 6Ah config is a pouch cell. No pouch cells in the 12-volt line as of yet in either brand.
@@WorkshopAddict ah, OK. That shows what I know. Thanks for informing me.
@@sswwooppee Things change so fast, it is hard to keep up
Damn that shit begging down 1 foot into the cut.
I have a 4 1/2 in DeWalt.DCS571 20volt MAX.Very handy!! CHEERS from WESTCOAST CANADA!
Milwaukee lied. Skil has smaller circular saws.
does anyone just hate this saw?
What is the point of testing on something it shouldn’t be used for? Yeah it can do it , but how about accuracy on thin materials that it would be good for.
Why do you pinch the base of the saw with your fingers in order to create a guide for ripping the OSB? It always makes me cringe when guys do this. One little slip of your hand or the saw and it’s your fingers getting cut! Use the rip guide instead.
Grandpa taught me how to cut straight when I was 9 years old doing it that way. Hard to change an old habit, but probably should.
@@WorkshopAddict The reason why I even notice it is because about 4 years ago I had an accident with a circular saw. I was holding the saw with my right hand and occasionally supporting the long piece I was ripping with my left hand (way out in front of the saw). The long board was clamped to two sawhorses but as I neared the end of the rip the board was bending down and I unexplainably put my left hand under the board to support it but this time instead of way in front of the saw I put all four fingers right into the saw blade. They were mangled pretty badly--cutting one about half way through at the tip joint (including the tendon) and cutting another almost entirely off at the tip joint (ultimately that finger was saved by the one artery that still remained and the little bit of skin that held it on). I was in a remote location in a 3rd world country, so by the time I was medevaced to a location where I could have surgery it was about 18 hours later. Thankfully, I still have all four fingers and I can still (with a huge amount of effort and practice) play the classical guitar without being hindered too much even though the middle two fingers don't function much after the last joint. That being said, I have taken carefulness with a circular saw to an entirely new level. Tongue-in-cheek I often tell people that I highly recommend not cutting your hand--and if you do, definitely don't use a circular saw to do it!
@@JDion-wj5xn Sorry to hear about the accident. Safety is important and sometimes becoming too comfortable can be an issue. I appreciate it.
I would holding the saw base as it slides along the edge you could get splinters. Another good reason to use a rip fence or straight edge.
Bogging