7 TERRIBLE Tools You Should Never Buy
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2024
- Buying the right tools isn't always easy. These are the 7 worst tools I regret buying. If I could go back and buy the right tool the first time, I would. While sadly I can't, hopefully this prevents you from making some of the same mistakes I did when it comes to tools. Some of these tools may work well for you if you're in a different industry, this is just my opinion from my experience.
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My dad was a professional diesel mechanic- He taught me "You never save any money buying cheap tools"!!
He wasn’t wrong!
My old strap on dealer said the same thing
@@burnedupsparkytipsandrevie9597Hazet Koken Stahwille Wright tool, youre welcome
Would only buy Walmart brand tools. But had several sockets break in half. Now I only buy home depot top brand names. Avoid H-Freight garbage
Buy once, cry once.
The bad thing about inexpensive tool bags, is the dark colored interior. I hate "losing" some tool, just because it decided to blend in with the dark color of the bag. The more expensive ones usually have bright colored interiors, making it easier to find whatever you are looking for.
It is great to actually be able to find what you need
This is so true because when I was younger, I never had this issue. I could look inside a black bag with little light and find what I needed. Then one day, I just couldn't. Everything just got a little darker. Perfect 20-20 vision, I am just in my mid 30's and have to adjust. Blackout on the outside is beautiful, on the inside. However, it's a nightmare! Lol
Just spray some silver spray paint on the inside of a cheap bag
I think this applies to tools too. I used to have a cheap pair of allen keys that I always had trouble finding. Recently bought a wera set (multicolored, very bright) and now I find them instantly
@@h8GWspray paint inside a bag will sluff off in a go bag of mechanics tools. Different solvents get introduced over time, and presto chango, youve essentially added never-seize into the bag.
A good friend told me once that you only buy good once...that being said if you need a tool that you will only use a few times cheap isn't always a bad thing. If you are starting out buy from somewhere like harbor freight and replace them with something more expensive when you can afford to or you find a one you like. A new mechanic can't afford to spend a mortgage payment on the snap on truck. If you work in a shop most guys will let you borrow a tool once to see if it's something that will work for you.
I do handyman work. After spending about $75 every 12-24 months on a replacement tool bag, I found Veto bags. I was concerned about paying $200+ for the bag, but it was one of the best purchases I've made. I've had it for 5 years and it looks/delivers just like new. And after hating every drill bag option out there, I purchased the Veto drill bag...and have loved every minute of using it. Glad you mentioned Veto, Glad you gave glory to God.
I second the veto bags. I work as an industrial maintenance technician. I bought many bags just like you but they all would fall over when opened. Except the crescent brand backpack. The problem with the crescent bag is that the stitching on the straps came undone after about 6 months with 30lbs of tools stuffed inside. After that I bought the veto, and the difference in quality is astronomical. If you need a bag for professional use then veto is my only option.
My 50's army backpack never falls over.
And no one is gonna steal it, they rather go for the vetos, milwaukee, dewalt etc
They really are so much better it’s insane
Im very proud to be the only one in the company with milwaukee because no one can bum my batteries or anything like that.
I love Milwaukee. It’s a good choice
I'm an Electrician, too. Here in Germany.
Most of my tools are from Knipex. I have several Cobras. 300, 250 and 185mm. They are really good.
For sidecutters, I like the comfort grip more than the electrician grip.
For storing I have Milwaukee Packout cases which are the best I have bought in the last 30 years.I have no use for Tool bags.
Knipex makes best forsure
These Milwaukee boxes have been a game changer!!!
@@aaronschocke2147 Klein makes their MODbox lineup now which is basically milwaukee packout too. It's gonna be a while for klein to catch up to the milwaukee ecosystem when it comes to attachments and stuff though. But they are certainly designed for electricians if that's what you do. The base for example has a slot for a rod to put wire in and you can spool it out straight from the box. But if you've already started with milwaukee there's absolutely no reason to change I would say.
@skylargartamaker7296 I prefer the Toughbuilt Stacktech. Theyre the best locking mechanisms by far imo
I got that Klein bag and I love it. It's the best bag that I could find for a network engineer. I can carry all of my tools in an organized fashion, and my laptop, which is essential.
This man is not lying.
I was a fire sprinkler fitter for 10 yrs.
Milwaukee Brushless will last for years.
The cobras are money! Hands down best in the field.
And the veto bag.. also money.
Now I am a glaizer, and we use a lot of different nut drivers.. so I am excited to look at the wiha set up you got there. Good work sir keep it up.
Of course he wasn't lying, everything he said was an opinion....
Well done. I am now 72 and only retired last year. The tool quality and selection is tremendous now days. The cordless tools have improved so much from our first choices and I like the Milwaukee tools except for their hammer drills. Felt this way from their corded ones in the 7Os to the cordless today. Hilti does in mho a more effective job. Buy what you like but in 49 years I have used a lot of tools.
Fun to see some one enjoying the trade.
Hilti does make a great sds. I really appreciate that! Congrats on retirement!
@@americanelectrician Hilti makes a nice Ramset gun too. I like hilti stuff. Top of the line imo.
Knipex 10” cobras and Knipex 12” cobras is all you need. Company should buy you 16” and larger adjustable wrenches because it’s not something you will use everyday (unless it’s your primary field). They are heavier and take up a lot of space in your bag.
I carry my 10s everywhere. I don’t keep my big pliers with me but I keep them on the van
Companies are not buying people tools. You might get a pair to use, but you're not getting them bought for you. Also, Cobra pliers are only good for removing things you're not going to reuse. Pliers wrenches are better for everyday work. Also people's jobs dictate the tools they need on an everyday basis. So making a broad statement like that is useless. Most electricians don't need 12 cobras.
yeah pliers wrenches are great when surface finish/damage is a concern. You have any comments on them chrome-plated vs. the atramentized+polished finish knipex does for those? I've started getting some rusting on the atramentized stuff (in humidity+salt area) but hear some negatives on the chrome. I have 2 chrome tools myself & I think atramentized looks better quality (more consistent thickness, etc)@@littlejackalo5326
I’m a plumber and I love Knipex channel locks. And my Lenox multi bit screwdriver for all the different nut drivers it has.
I own too many veto bags! They are the best!!! Just got the MB5B for my service bag! I work in hvac and veto is just so much better! I started with the Klein backpack when I started in the trades and it was great but after getting a veto backpack or bag, nothing compares! I’ve been using the tech XL for install and just got the MB5B, I also have the tech pac and many more that i got from special deals veto was running! I highly recommend, the only thing I don’t like about veto is an open top bag, but the one I have I always had tools fall out and just prefer a closed bag. Great stuff man!
The good thing about the reversible you can clean the magnet though that’s my biggest issue with the just the regular bits. Once you get stuff in them they’re really hard to clean so the reversible ones are handy because you can take the tip off and clean the magnet.
That is a huge benefit. I usually use tape to clean mine out when they get stuff in them
Duct seal compound works wonders for getting metal shaving off of bit magnets. Been using it for years
Haha I’m an hvac tech and those malco nut drivers for us are amazing because 1/4 and 5/16 is 90% of what we use. I have a drill driver that has a 4” malco nut driver that I don’t think I’ve ever took off of that drill 😂
I believe it😂 it was more so an example for short nut drivers. I lost that one the day after I made this video😂
I’ve loved your videos man, we do a little bit of everything so have found a lot of cross over from what you suggest to what I’ve found works good for us as well.
HVAC guys really do a lot of everything. Its crazy
I appreciate that man!@@calebcrockett1085
I agree. I use a 4" Malco everyday. That's one of those items I wouldn't want to be without.
Lenox makes a multi bit screwdriver that has 1/4, 5/16, and 3/8 nut drivers if you take the bits out. I love it.
Knipex, hurry up and make that forged wire stripper insulated!
I know! We need em!
Knipex 13 76 200, i guess... its widely available in europe, no idea about the US
It’s not in the us yet
Working hot? Gonna get caught. ⚡💀⚡
I work live with my comfort grips everyday, completely safe, but would be nice to match my other tools
i understand the nut driver set completely. that malco one you have though is more for hvac. helps to have all lengths to get into tight spaces. i use that tiny size all the time in a 90
The knipex have multiple handle coatings. If you are going to be doing anything live up to 1000v invest in the yellow and red insulation knipex. The blue red comfort grip with crimp is my pair of choice. Just use the right tool for the right job.
I have Milwaukee fuel 18v, 12v and dewalt 20v. There is 0 difference in durability, performance etc. I started getting Milwaukee because they have a way better tool line up. I use both brands all day everyday. Yet to have a single tool fail.
The professional line of power tools is great from most places these days. I love the line up from fuel
@americanelectrician yea I love my fuels too! Great video, man
I went dewalt 20v and am going to stary buying the m12 lineup soon
The Cobras are expensive, but I'll spend the money every time. They grip better, the handles close better, and the handle material is grippier.
They are by far the best pliers out there
I work for a power company but in maintenance not in the electrical side, Knipex everything is my favorite and I absolutely love anything Klein too especially their screwdrivers, nut drivers and side cutter and lineman pliers. Veto pro packs are awesome. We use Milwaukee 28 Volt cordless tools at my work and they are animals!
I bet those 28v tools are insane!
@@americanelectricianthat’s nothing my 120volt set will blow you out of the water
Yea you got me, I got clickbaited seeing the M12 thinking you were about to criticize my favorite tool I've ever bought 😂, good video.
Good honest video, subscribed. Couldn't agree more about using 6" drive bits.
Good video! I agree about the Channellocks and also the Klein backpack vs Veto bags! I have Channellocks passed down from my Father that 10-15 yo still going 💪 I’ve owned that same Klein backpack too and it gets too heavy, flops over, and the compartment space is just 💩 looking into investing in a Veto Pro Pac MB5B Tool Bag w/ Backpack Strap one day
I've got the Klein bag. It suits my needs as a handyman...almost. It fits all of my common use hand tools and such, and leaves my hands free for carrying larger stuff when needed. _However,_ it falls right over when it's open. If I want to keep it upright, I have to zip it at least partially shut after grabbing each tool. It gets annoying.
The falling over thing is one of the big things. The vetos also have a lot better storage. I have also had my fair share of tool bag spills
The falling over issue is exactly why everyone should just throw away their other tool bags and very the Veto bags, pouches, or backpacks.
Just get a Veto. You won't regret it.
I’m in HVAC and those Malco flip socket it like the best tool you can have hands down! But different field so maybe that’s why lol
Definitely agree with you about the small malcos getting lost in the tool bag!!!! They always disappear.. the bigger never disappoints! 😎
I actually lost mine the day after I made this video.. no idea where it went 😂
Thank you very much for an informative presentation that will help many.
I love those forged strippers! Hopefully Knipex will make a chrome insulated version for the north American market. Would be handy with a crimper also. Veto bags...nothing else to say lol great video man!
Bro thank you! I know we need the insulated set!
I use 6in nut drivers too. I also have 6in #2 Phillips, #2 square, i forget the number but the most common torqz. I keep them in a compartment on my pouch so they are always with me.
I would want the Veto Pro backpack like you showed. I have a Pro Pack XL and LC as my regular bags, but would rather a backpack. Same as you industrial & commercial, and I hate the way my Klein falls over constantly.
I love the backpacks! I appreciate the feedback
Those malco nut drivers are my favorite. Just get them in longer doses they do come in six inches. And since it's flip you would need less if i recall
True! It was mostly to show the Milwaukee ones. I just couldn’t find any of them 😂
For the larger pliers, buy the Doyle brand that harbor freight sells. They are damn near identical to channellock and half the cost. Edit: I do also own the huge knipex & Channellock brands. I picked up the largest Doyle's for specifically running 5" rigid. All we run is large rigid and haven't had any issues with them yet.
I have used them before and they did work well
I haven't been disappointed with Doyle brand. I usually grab them when I'm in Harbor freight and thinking I could use a second pair of such-and -such and I've been happy enough that when I rummage around in my tool bag and happen to grab the Doyle I'm not disappointed. That's saying something considering everything else is mostly knipex and milwaukee. Not saying they're just as good, but if I'm not tossing the Doyle's back to grab another pair that's saying something.
I have to keep pairs of pliers and cutters I don't mind handing to a helper and those fit the bill
Agreed. If its a rarely used item the doyles are more than good enough. I use mine once a month at most and have never had issues with them
Yeah man I bought the wiha bit bag on your recommendation and it helped organize my tools so much better I put the wera insulated kraftform kompakt the blades I use and one handle and all my drill bits
That’s fantastic! I love that little bag. It would be perfect for the insulated blades!
As an electrician since 1979, and my first 15 years in the oil and gas industry ,if your running 3” rigid conduit you better buy yourself some Rigid aluminum pipe wrenches. The largest “pump pliers” I have owned are the 440 Channel locks. 12”. Knipex cobra pliers are extremely overpriced. I also have to agree with you. Veto bags are probably the best available. I have their Tech OT-LC. Best advice I can give an apprentice is buy the best quality tools that you can afford. Quality tools will last you for a career.
Their bags are the best!
idk man, on a suspension job and a brake job one time when I had channellocks, cobra's, locking pliers & slip joint pliers available to me - the jaw design and the localized heat treating of the teeth create a bite that has made the Cobra's been the ONLY tool to get me out of, shoot, 3-5 jams working on rusty midwestern cars.
Knipex is the only pliers I have used that have held up to industrial use at a corrugated plant. And let me tell you, we use A LOT of diaphragm pumps 1"- 3". These pliers are the only ones that will hold up to the jobs we use them on. I like Knipex so much. I bought a set of their adjustable wrenches.
Best damn pliers I have ever used. Pro tip. Buy them off the snap on truck so when they wear out. You can get new ones quick.
Hang on there skippy. FUEL is More than just brushless tools. You also have to remember that Milwaukee started out onbthis cordless train by building and selling and improving their now entry level line. They are still great tools, especially for just starting out in the trades. They can buy into the Milwaukee brand and collet the batteries and chargers and invest more into Milwaukee and their better line as the tradesmen makes more money.
So, after Milwaukee made the brushed line, they made their Brushless Line. They are absolutely better than the entry level, but tend to cost a little bit more.
However, Milwaukee then introduced their FUEL line, which improved upon their Brushless line, and of course, more money.
But as a professional myself, i do own a few non FUEL Milwaukee cordless tools. None of them have given me any problems.
So while I agree that you should buy quality tools when you can afford them, don't discourage people from buying what they can afford.
Basically the same thing I said so I agree with you!
@@realpatriot5896 I scrolled through a few of the comments, and must have either not seen yours or just didn't scroll down far enough. But my Grandfather taught me about Buy Once, Cry Once when I was a young kid. He was a die hard Milwaukee tool user from the 30's and 40's. But not only Milwaukee, he also used other quality tools, many of which are probably still being used somewhere, by some craftsman/tradesman that looks at his tools and says, "They don't make them this heavy any more.
By no means am I talking trash, loved the video, so far it's spot on, but the large channel locks, I love my knipex, I like the ones with no button. But my life changed running I'm/rigid when I learned the benefits of a correctly sized/style pipe wrench.
Agree with you on Veto. Especially with tool pouches. Spent a lot of money on different pouches and bs. Decided to just buy the one I wanted. Veto MP2X. Won’t ever look back
awesome video. where can i get a sweatshirt like the one you have on. or is there a website to customize one like you did?
I’m trying to find a way to make them rn. They would be like $150 if I sold them maybe more
Milawkee makes some sick adjustable plyers as well .. bought my first hex plyers .. love em.
The tech pac is awesome I’m an electrician and the more I can carry is a bonus so the big one i think it’s the XL would be cool for bigger tools. I have the side pouch for service calls and love it but any bag would be a blessing. Thank you for the channel and the possibility of owning a cool bag that’ll last.
Bro yes! The pouch is great! Absolutely man, thank you for the feedback!
Great informative video love your attitude
Thank you!
I use the shorter nut driver bits all the time. The malco reversible ones were cool when they came out but the magnets get messed up quick.
I was recently gifted one of the older Milwaukee m12 brush impact drivers, it works good but I plan on upgrading the battery from the 1.5 ah to 5.0 ah high output battery. It should be good.
You have to watch out milwaukee has brushed tools being the lowest tier, and then they have a mid-grade brushless lineup, and then the fuel being their top tier.
True! They do have the m18 brushless that isn’t fuel. The fuel is where it’s at tho
@americanelectrician oh definitely that's the only lineup I purchase and use. However if I was just a homeowner and wanted to save some money I might consider the brushless non-fuel lineup. I think it's funny people complain about the price I see milwaukee on sale from various places more than dewalt, makita or any other brand. I did go a few years with hitachi before it merged and became metabo hpt and it served me extremely well for the price however they just don't have the lineup of other brands.
@americanelectrician yea fuel def way to go I see people all the time try to bring craftsman and ryobi if homeowner it's ok but not for everyday use I'm an electrician as well that m12 is great my go to
01:16 brushed-motor power tools
03:07 cheap wire strippers
05:27 Knipex big (16"-22") Cobras
07:22 store brand pliers
09:40 small nut drivers
12:08 too many Knipex diagonal cutters (pick one)
15:12 cheap tool bags
Malco does produce there flip bits in longer shanks, I believe it's 3" and 6". Personally I like them more than dedicated sized bits simply because you can remove the driver part and clear the magnets of metal shavings .
It wasn’t really about the malco bits it was about short bits
I like the short nutdrivers because I can always make them longer with an extension. Can’t make an extended nut driver shorter. There’s often times where I need the short nut driver over an extended one.
I don’t really run into that super often and if I do I just use a socket and adapter
I don’t have any drivers that are two sided but it seems like it would be easy to clean metal shavings out of them. If I were shopping would probably get the small set with an extension and a 5/16”, and Phillips long driver
I have milwaukee m12 brushless tool I buy all my electric tools klein and my hvac tools Malco. I just got set of 6 klein 6 inch hollow shaft impact rated magnetic nut drivers and I am really impressed with them
the Milwaukee version of the knipex multi striper pliers is really good too
Been using channel locks for 46.5 years. I’ll have to check out the knipex.
Good video !
Thoughts on thomas&betts tools?
Specifically their wt2000 wire strippers?
Ive had a pair i inherited from my dad who got it from my grandfather and its one of the nicest pairs of wire strippers ive ever used but ive never seen anyone else using them
Fun fact in the m18 line Milwaukee has non fuel brushless tools. I think the entry level brushless get overshadowed by the fuel versions in my opinion.
As it should be. The fuel is wayyyyy better
My man’s. I don’t think I’ve ever commented on a RUclips video. However, the amount of things you said in this video that I have verbatim said over the years was crazy. This week I mentioned about how I’d love the big knipex channies, but the cost to performance vs the channel locks was just not even questionable. You have your finger on the vein and I hope the new guys watch some of your videos.
Love my mini 180mm Knipex smooth jaw as a pocket set but as a plumber I prefer the channellock 250/300mm pipe grips
Good video! I have to disagree with your assessment of the 16" cobras though. While not an every day tool, when I'm working on larger pipes and fittings, these things are phenomenal. The 16" channellocks are good too, but Knipex blows them out of the water, IMO.
My favorite slip joint pliers have been the doyle harbor frieght brand I needed a pair for something and picked them up and they are my go to I have all the channelock sizes but for price you can't go wrong with the doyles
Depending on what type of electrician you are can affect which tools you use. I do marine work and do both North American and International electrical systems. This is an excellent video for an electrician.
Relax on the impacts. What you want is the m12 installation driver.
I bought a second one i like it so much. The grip is what makes it and they dont advertise it heavily enough. It's life changing. Using a normal grip gun feels weird now... You get the precision of a pencil grip with power of a pistol. It's AMAZING
inside electrician doesnt need an impact unless you are driving lags. All it does is strip screws.
tools these days have PLENTY of power that is why m12 works for everything except drilling holes through multiple studs/plates.
Actually found a set of hart nut drivers in a plastic holder that I keep in my side pocket of my bag. They aren’t 6” but are good enough for most applications.
Good video, i agree with everything, but one small mistake is that Milwaukee does make brushless non fuel drills and tools. Fuel is definitely what professionals should be implementing. The fuel versions have poly phase AC motors that are designed to work with the high output batteries. They are also optimized to work with whichever tool they are paired with...
As far as Veto give away bag choice, my vote is for the tech pac XL Wheeler! 🔥🔥💪
I know a few guys who have just the M12 impact because it fits in a service bag nicely. I personally don't have it but the reasoning makes sense especially, because myself included, 75% of my power tool needs for service is just taking out screws.
I'm always buying extra Knipex. It gives me tools to display in my shop roll-away like the extra socks in my Basic Training foot locker.
I have brushed dewalt tools. They've been amazing when installing solar. I would like them to put out a 12v size like that milwaukee stubby
While that m12 fuel impact is what I've been dailying for like 3 years (just got it back from being warrantied) I've never had an issue with the old brushed m18 impact. Brushed m18 hammer drill/driver also had no issues with but did lose it (I think in a drop ceiling)
How are the blades on your knipex diagonal cutters? I've had mine for only 6 months (10 inch, angled, dipped handle) and the joint has become loose enough that the blades will snap past each other and chip each other. not happy for how expensive they were.
That’s pretty wild. Mine have been great for years. It may have been a bad set id check with Knipex
Klein jaws open wider, I use both because sometimes the knipex jaws are too narrow. 50 years in trade.
Union ,contractors buy our drivers and drills.
Have knipex dykes don’t cut as good as kliens. The cutters are now relegated to retirement.
Probably a lemon, mine are still good after a decade or so. Get a new one, i don't know how long the guarantee is, but it will be covered if it is only a few months or years old.
I have the same tool bag, great bag. Got the TPXXL not long ago and i love it even more. Very convinient having everything on one side and a big velcro flap to keep the dirt out and tools in. Gotta disagree about the strippers though. I think the Milwaukee 7 in 1 are by far the best, better than the Knipex version and half the price. Also love having the linesman style end for twisting wires together. Also love my short malco nut driver, being able to clean off the magnet is enough of a selling point but takes up way less space than the long ones and i always have a bit extension with me anyways (although i very rarely need it).
I use the Milwaukee Packout backpacks, use it every day and is very durable, works with my pack out boxes, and never tips over. Highly recommend them. Been using the same bag for close to 3 years now still no threads tearing, (30lbs of tools everyday) holding up the best out of all that I have used so far, well worth the money. For the 22" tongue-in-grooves I actually like the Duralast over the Channellock's, just have a better bite in my book.
What are your thoughts on Porter Cable and Kobalt brands? I have those and I’m wondering if I should switch. 1st year apprentice electrician here.
Use the shit out of what you can afford, man. We all started somewhere. All my first hand tools were Husky. I slowly started replacing one tool at a time with a higher quality one. First, my linemans, then strippers, pliers, screw drivers, etc. You will get better performance and longer life out of a higher quality tool. But 50 bucks for knipex linemans is way more steep than 29, I know.
Use whatever you can but don’t go invest a ton of money into a platform that won’t fit your needs for forever. If you can switch over to something that has a more comprehensive line of brushless tools i would slowly start to switch. It’ll save you a lot of trouble being on the same battery platform
What's the difference between the insulated, comfort grip and dipped side cutters?
ive used the smaller cobras to get rounded off 10mm bolts countless times. the jaws grab like no other pliers. after i bought them, i returned my blue point plier set that i previously bought from snap on. so worth the money
I have both the Klein strippers and the knipex hybrids, I use the Kleins in my electrical pouch and I keep the hybrids in my data com bag and love both.
Also, I have the larger Klein backpack as well that sits in my basement not being used and also love veto. I ended up going with the open top hydrant bag that they sell in the fire line of stuff. I can keep all my large pliers and files for larger pipe in the large open top hydrant bag where I can just reach in and grab what I need. I’m eyeing a larger open top bag to replace my tp4 blackout pouch or maybe the tech pac wheeler. Reallly want their backpack with the wheels now. Just sitting here watching your video that RUclips pushed into my feed and we’ve had a lot of similar thoughts on tools and bags.
That double sided malco bit is amazing. But doing metal roofs I don’t need a long bit to reach into a box, but that just goes to show everybody’s needs are different
17:40 lol loved this part. Glad I found your channel today. thats a sub ✅
😂I think if you can’t keep the short nut driver, it’s your problem not the tool’s problem. I actually love the short drivers so much better than long ones. When you need to fit in small space, they are stubby. And when you need to reach far, you always have the 6 in or 12 in lock extension. You can put entire set short bit in a small case with a extension. Much lighter.
Or if you do a lot of big commercial work or industrial work, I understand you may not care, you can leave a lot of tools in a gang box. But for small residential jobs, if small thing can fit in a case that easy to carry with the main tool bag, it would save you a lot of trips from going back to the truck. If every trip to go in and out you need to clean you boots or climb stairs, ladder even need to watch home owner’s pet to not go out of the door. It such a pain. After long time I suffered this. I want everything of mine compact, multi functional and easy to carry
I tried the tool bags too and settled on Veto. Then I hurt my back and went to the Ridgid box system. This was before Milwaukee packout. Depends if you only need 2 bag or many
Video is pretty good information, some is probably even useful for people in the trades who are buying tools for personal projects that aren't in their line of work., Personality is good. If you condensed this into half the run time I'd be more likely to binge through or leave playing while I'm working on something.
Oh, and I bought the big Knippex button water pumps (16" & 22" I think?) on a whim. I had to order them, just guessed at sizes - the big set is huge, and you're right, heavier than they oughta be. No clue what I paid, I've never looked at 'em with regret, but you're right, Channel Lock would have been smarter money.
Sorry but I strongly disagree with the bags. Vetos send you to the chiropractor. They weight 3000 pounds empty, even the smaller ones. The Milwaukee one is amazing, weighs 4 pounds empty, can take a beating and has enough pockets.
Came here to write this, but found your comment- so true! I bought the Veto backpack, brought it home, loaded it up (with tools that I'd already refined for years to be the lightest versions of everything I could find for HVAC commercial service) and then went to pick it up...I thought the strap was caught on my workbench or something. It wasn't, it was just that damn heavy. I turned around and put my arms in with the bag still on the bench and tried it that way. Definitely not going to work for roof hatch ladders and treks to/from the truck and around campuses. Unloaded and brought back to the supply house lol
As a low voltage data technician, I got the M12 surge very recently. It has quickly convinced me that its the optimal impact driver for our kind of work.
Very often were working with delicate cameras with little tamper proof fasteners so you want something gentle yet fast. At the same time, we need something powerful enough to drive medium size 3/8 concrete anchors to actually mount these bigass cameras with.
Instead of carrying an electronic screwdriver plus a standard impact, you can just use the surge. The speed 1 has very slow, weak impacts, perfect for not stripping small fasteners or damaging electronics. And when you need some power, crank it up to speed 2 or 3 it will easily put anchors in concrete. It really is a great multitool.
Plus, you have the added bonus of not damaging your hearing as much, since its much quieter than other impacts! Overall, a very impressive tool that has a lot to offer, highly recommend 👌
As a metal fabricator, I hate brushless power tools because they always stop spinning under medium to heavy torque and give you that annoying ‘beeeeep’ when they stop spinning. The only thing worse than a drill stopping midway through drilling stainless (which work hardens the steel) is breaking a cobalt bit off in a blind hole. Brushed tools will keep spinning even after they start smoking under heavy torque loads. As an electrical, mechanical, and plumbing foreman in charge of 25 tradesmen I also prefer the Veto. Several of my crews have either the Klien or Milwaukee bags and they all love my Veto and they all wish they would have spent the extra $50-150 for the Veto. Those cheaper bags are already expensive so cry once buy once.
My tools wont self destruct, so I dont like them.
He's right to some degree.
With Milwaukee in particular, the Fuel versions of the tool communicates with the battery and when pushed too hard to the point where the motor will burn up and self destruct, the tool will stop working to protect itself.
It's like having a circuit breaker to trip to protect the equipment, the tool or user from failing.
But if you don't care to save the tool and would rather have it continue working until it actually burns up and goes on fire in some cases, only the brushed versions will do that.
It sounds crazy and you might ask someone why they would want that? But in some cases, that's what they need.
Also be aware that brushed motors are usually easier to fix or repair, because in many cases all they need is a new set of brushes instead of a new complete motor. Brushes are cheap to make and replace.
But, in many if not all cases, the top of the line brushless version of a certain tool will be more powerful to do the work.
And the battery will last longer on it between charges. And it will not burn itself up like the brushed version will.
So while he's correct about destroying the tool by pushing it so far that it self destructs, in most cases it's better to use the brushless version because the tool can handle more load, but will shut itself down before it burns itself up and self destructs.
You have to ask yourself which is more important. And for most, it's better to save the tool.
If you're pushing the tool past its limits all the time, then you're probably using the wrong tool for the job.
There are probably better suited tools that won't self destruct when you use them to do that particular job.
But that's a whole different topic.
Bro the Milwaukee 7 in 1 wire strippers are where it’s at imo. I stripped and spliced a whole mansion without grabbing my kleinsmans once.
I had one of those klein backpacks, it absolutely sucked to work out of. The tool pouches are horrible, tool access is horrible. It doesn’t open wide enough and it won’t stand up once you get it loaded.
Have you heard of flex power tools? all their items are brushless, there batteries are like bricks they can be dropped or kicked around and still work perfectly fine, also they are an all-metal build internally. in other words, they are all business.
Yes! I’ve heard of them but I’ve never used any of them. Do you have them?
@@americanelectrician I do have them, they haven’t let me down, and they go through wood like nothing, one feature I will say was annoying, since I hadn’t seen it in the manual is on the drills they will stop to prevent damage if the motor can’t spin, I’ve only found this to happened then too much pressure is put on the drill or if you catch a knot the right way ( that’s only happened when I’m also using a beat up drill bit on the wood). Other than that and the fact there heavier that is to the all metal build, I love them
I'm an avid Flex fan🎉 their new StackPack system is simply undestructable😊
I own a bunch of Flex Tools. Initially they were more expensive than Milwaukee Fuel tools, but came with a Lifetime Founders Warranty, (which they keep extending), so that helped justify the cost a little.
But they definitely weigh more, because 24 Volt tools always will over 12 volt or 18 volt, due to more battery cells needed.
But, the Flex batteries have started leaking black goo out of them, damaging tool bags, carpets, and anything else they leak on. This is a well documented issue, that Flex has unofficially acknowledged. They will replace all of your batteries as part of the Lifetime Warranty, but if they ruined your bag, or your customer's carpets or even your jacket or clothes, who's paying for that crap? Not Flex! Lol
Plus Flex doesn't nearly have the lineup of specialty power tools that Milwaukee has.
I'm not going to say Flex is terrible, but they have some major issues that anyone considering them should be aware of.
So with that being the case, just go with Milwaukee Fuel tools. They don't necessarily make "THE BEST" of everything, but their core tools are amazing, and the specialty tools like the KO Sets, the Wire Crimpers, the Wire Strippers, Pro Press tools, Pex tools, Pipe Threaders and cutters are all top notch. So why go with anything else? Seriously.
Before anyone accuses me of being biased, know that I own and have tried many, if not all, the other major brands. Some of them are very good and might even make an odd power tool better than a comparable Milwaukee Fuel tool, but overall if I had to go with one brand and stick with it for all my needs, it would be Milwaukee Fuel.
This applies to electricians, plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, and almost every other trade that works with cordless power tools like we all need to.
Flex, DeWalt, Bosch, Makita and Metabo all make some great cordless power tools as well.
For instance, Makita makes a great rear handle circ saw, or the Metabo HPT 36 Volt makes a great recip saw, or the Flex recip saw is also great because it's vibration dampening is much better than Milwaukee's. So those tools are all really good, and in most cases as mentioned, better than the Milwaukee Fuel versions of those tools.
But the Milwaukee Fuel versions will keep up and perform almost as good. But because Milwaukee has the specialty tools that none of the others offer, it's easier to just go with Milwaukee Fuel for just about everything.
If you don't mind having multiple battery platforms, with different chargers and all the other complications that come along with multiple brand power tools, then by all means, go for some of the other brands as well.
But if you want just one brand. Just one battery platform from a company that offers just about anything you will ever need including the specialty trade specific power tools, and the tools will perform and the company will stand behind said tools, Milwaukee Fuel is the way to go. Period.
@@El_Diablo_LI I get what you’re saying, by no means do I mean to knock Milwaukee I have a few of there tools as well and they are great. But so far I haven’t had any problem with the flex, I will say I appreciate you making a fair claim to make others aware. But my main enjoyment with flex is the power output I’ve gotten from them, also with them being a newer(ish) brand they still have things to figure out I won’t say there perfect but they got room to improve for the future and I’m sure they will, now sure there’s the argument Milwaukee is already solid and so are many other tool brands, and that’s an argument I agree with, but like I’ve said before I enjoy flex, and at the end of the day that’s just my preference just like Milwaukee is yours from the sounds of it, but again thanks for pointing some of the faults out, cons are just as important as pros to consider
Great show, I’ve always loved the Knipex pliers, now I’m jonesing for their wire strippers.
I’m really liking the Veto Pro Pac Tech-MCT. It’d make a helluva good giveaway.
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I have 5 veto bags I bought and never used because I thought they would work for me but didn't work the way I wanted. I do hvac for 35 years and still have not found the perfect bag. I have a great design idea but no money to make a prototype. Tryed talking to veto but no luck there
If your working with insulated, you should be in level 3 PPE working on HOT WORK WHICH SHOULD VERY RARELY BE DONE!! Ex: Changing/installing a breaker, when panel cannot be shit down!. I know everyone gonna say this and that. Been doing it since 99 when there was no safety. Then I went to work with Cintas. After working with them I'm 100% qualified to be a safety manager at any type of construction or maintenance.
Great video, if u want some ideas for some future video topics I got some ideas.
Thanks for sharing this video!
Thank you for the feedback!
I am a tradesman and work in the oil refinery and we use the Milwaukee drills all the time some are fuel and some not we have no issues with either drills and they are used all the time all year round….
I personally find the Klien toolbar exceptionally good, tough and has every compartment I need with a hard waterproof bottom I can stand in puddles or mud without a problem.
Depends on your work environment I know but very happy with it.
With the magnetic 5/16-3/4 bits, I prefer the shorter version because I often find myself in tight spaces where I don’t have room for my 6 inch.
Now when I’m on a rooftop and have ample space, it’s the 6 inch drivers all the way.
First time comin to the channel. Love seein some honesty and common sense im subribed
Thank you🙌🏼
Yeah i always buy 3 or 6 inch impact bits i never use the i hardly ever use 1 or 2 inch bits unless i have to. And i love the flip nut drivers becuase you always need both. But need the 3 or 6 inch ones.
I got the Milwaukee bag and if it wasn’t for the back laptop pocket building everything over I’d love it even more, for the price it should have a rubber bottom or some kind of protective film. But same boat as you, just sits in a corner now with “Home” tools
honestly i really like the regular handle knipex. they fit much better in my bags but i have a lot of comfort grips because for some reason i can usually find them for less than the regular handles
If you like the 10inch cobras that Knipex makes you should get the 10inch automatic self-adjustable pliers huge game changer than their push button style but they only make it 10inch
I am debating between the push button and self-adjusting cobras. Why do you think the self-adjusting is better than the push button?
@christianimperio8731 there's no adjustment you need to do, you just need to squeeze on the handles and it locks into place
I actually have a pair! I’ve been testing them out tho before I put anything up. Love them so far
I'm more of the framer type. I bought bad tool belts. The diamondback I run now is way more expensive, but if I add up all the shot ones i.wasted doe on its about the same.
I bought a set of the 22" for a set of 24 distribution racks with 3" rigid and they made my life sooo much easier. I really wasn't sure about them when I got them but im glad I did. 320 Canadian doll hairs well spent.
So I have beef with nut drivers. Not related to length though, it's the magnets. I don't know what it is, but all the magnets break rendering the driver useless. The only ones that I've found so far that have the magnets hold up is the rack-a-tiers racky bits, but they tend to round off sooner than other bits. Have you ever had your wiha magnets break in the nut drivers? I've wanted to get these for a while, but I struggle with having to buy 6 instead of just 2 (1/4" and 5/16" primarily)
Now regarding your thought on Knipex side cutters (diagonal cutters) personally i've found that the handles flex wayyy too much taking away all of your leverage on those bigger-than-you-should cuts. Have you found the same results or do you just not mind the flex?
What was the minimum channellock size you would buy (instead of buying cobras?)
For electrical work 10”
Yes, Vito is a really good brand probably the best and I own several of them. The only negative side is they’re too heavy. Once you start adding tools to it I know they’re well built but it’s just a heavy bag.
I know I stuff mine full. That being said there isn’t another bag I’d carry
Wiha, Wera and Knipex will be expensive, specially in US, cause they are mostly make in Germany, Czech Republic and Poland. They arent made in China from chinesium. Ratchets I believe are made in Taiwan. Own tools from all three brands and wouldnt change them for anything. My wallet hates me, but Ive learned to not buy cheap tools.