I’m using the 410 hybrids 4,5 and love them, I adjusted the loft down one degree to play with my i500 irons 6-uw. I’m running Ts3driver and TS2 3,5 woods. Love the gaping and so glad going back to dual hybrids in my bag.
I had the original Crossover having given up on hybrids... I switched to the G410 crossover this year and for me it's the most consistent club in my bag, much improved on the original in both looks and performance!
Struggled with my hybrid and just put the G410 crossover in my bag and seeing some great improvements, especially off a tee. Keep up the good work James....
I have just changed my crossover for the hybrid g410. The hybrid gives me a lovely draw bias and stops quicker. It's also much more forgiving on off centre hits.
My son has the 3 crossover and loves it, I’ve just gone from G10 to Titleist 818 H1 hybrids! I can hit a 1 iron and still occasionally play it but prefer the hybrids and can hit them low if needed!
Great video, again. Some players just can’t game a hybrid OR a wood...though rare, I’m one of them. I tried to get fitted for a new hybrid this winter at PGA Superstore...tried 8 brands in different shafts/lie combos...couldn’t hit anything consistent. The ping crossover, for me, is much more consistent and versatile. I love it. I have the 2 iron.
Hi James I have a ping 400 crossover I bought at the beginning of the year mainly because I struggled with the hybrid I had .I play of 18 and this club has helped me on par rd and our 193 yard par 3
Saw my pro and got a G410 5 hybrid (25) to cover the gap from the longer irons that I have taken out of my bag. I play on a hilly, tree lined parkland course with small greens. Really easy to hit and has an effortless high flight. I was also surprised by the spring off the face, carrying similar or last a Talyor made M3 21 I have been hitting. Very pleased and may look for some more (2 and 3 or 4).
Just the comparison I’ve been waiting for. My longest iron is 6 and I want one or two hybrids to fill the gap to my 4 wood. Good you acknowledged the indoor hat debate.
Yup.. had the 2 crossover and it went like a rocket.. if you hit it out of the middle.. miss hits were punished.. hard to hit a high draw with.. Use the srixon one now. Much more forgiving.. bit wouldn't mind trying the 2 g410.
Pleased that you said about midhandicappers having different faults. Mine being the chipping yips. We seem to get categorised wrongly in general. Good review.
Great Comparison! So many nuggets of wisdom spread throughout the video on the differences between a driving iron and a hybrid and their uses! I have 15 clubs in the bag ( i only play 14) and this video illustrates the reason why! Between my 3WD and my 4 iron I have 2 clubs that I alternate depending on the course, wind conditions and my general mood! They are: 1) Titleist 718 T-MB 2i (17°), with Graphite Design Tour AD 95X Shaft 2) Titleist 21° 818H2 A4(20°), with Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 95X Shaft I love them both. and each has it uses!
Just ordered the 2-iron version of the G410 crossover for playing at St.Andrews next year, also a member at an inland course called Blairgowrie so I'll use my hybrid there! I know, I'm very lucky...
I've used my 845 2 iron for decades. When I upgraded to the P-790s, I kept my 2 iron. That was until I hit the P790 2 UDI. Had a little adjustment since the shaft was an inch longer than my 2 iron, but boy does that club hit a sweet ball!! It's almost like having a 2nd driver in my bag. One that I can hit off the ground. And I can work it, draw/fade, just as easy. Love the club!! I tried the TM GAPR Lo, but it just didn't have the same feel, distance, or workability as the UDI. And luckily, in Florida, we've got fairways that'll run forever!! LOL!!
Try and keep the camera steady when showing chart data, and preferably all the screen data in one shot rather than move the camera. If possible side by side comparison charts on the same screen would be ideal as it’s difficult to digest the data quickly. A good video which answers the question many golfers are asking
I’ve never his the crossover but I hit the G410 3 hybrid this weekend and it was not for me. I know I was most likely the issue but I had a terrible time keeping the ball from slicing. I’m using Mizuno CLK right now and that has been the most reliable, forgiving hybrid I’ve ever used.
I have a Ping i20 hybrid that I've had for years. No intention of changing it yet, and if I did I would check out the Taylor Made GAPR first. Hybrids are excellent from a fluffy lie in the semi-rough too.
I use both off 13. Hybrid is higher, more forgiving and goes further. Hybrid also goes further left/right when it goes wrong ! Using hybrid off the tee need to watch tee height. Easy get too much loft. Summer months I use TMB 3 because straighter and roll out pretty much same as hybrid. That’s my take. Ping hybrid looks good but hate the look of those turbulators on top.
Great vlog James! Here would be an interesting comparison. The Driving iron versus the 3 or 4 iron from a set. FOr example, you can get the TMUDI in the P790 as a 2 iron, or the 4 iron from the P790. Would expect eh UDI to go farther but the 4 iron to be more forgiving. The question would be how much more distance would you need to get from the UDI to warrant it over the 4 iron.
Hybrid every day for me. I have a 2 hybrid 16 degree and it’s my go to club off the tee if I’m having a bad day with the driver, absolutely love it and it’s still great off the fairway on long or 5s with that bit more forgiveness
Really cool studio!! Put 19 hybrid in bag set to +1.5 and use it A LOT!! Keep giving us the business and I like your mid handicap guy and segment. Only detractor is he smiles too much but has a good swing.
Would have to be the hybrid all day long! I recently done the same test and the game changer for me was when I did hit a bad shot the hybrid was better. Where as the iron you got punished.
First comment....great video. I have all Ping clubs except for my putter, so this video peaked my curiosity IMMEDIATELY!!! I have the G400 19 & 22 degree hybrids right now, and will be upgrading to the G410’s.
I am still using the Taylormade 2015 RSI TP UDI #3. I love it but the head is tiny compared to the current driving irons. I have the GAPR Lo set in 2i specs and the GAPR Lo looks MASSIVE next to the 2015 UDI.
Great timing for this video just put an order for the G410 Crossover 3 Iron! After 7 years with the Ping i20 Hybrid in the bag I was on the hunt for a new club which could offer me stability and confidence off tee on tight par-4s. The issue I've had with the i20 ishigh launch, causing issue in headwinds and going (very) left on bad swings. So was looking for something that would offer a lower flight together with elimination of the left shots as much as possible. Attended a demo day this Saturday and pretty much tested all available options from the different brands. Callaway Apex 2019 Hybrid was nice but launching the same as my i20 and salesman didn't seem very interested in finding a suitable option for me. So moved over to the Ping tent, the Crossover have had my interest since I first saw it online, it didn't dissapoint when I finally saw it in flesh. Was putting out balls on with desired ballflight, 3300-3500 spin, and most importantly no hooks, poor swings would at most generate rough shots on course. Tested the g410 Hybrid aswell just to get a feel for it, together with a heavier shaft, as a possible cure to my left shots were I tend to rush during the turn. Great ballflight as well, tad higher, but was again seeing the offline shots, both left and right. Distance was awesome, entering 3-wood territory, which would cause too much of a distance gap in the bag. Previously I have been a bit neglecting towards testing clubs before buying, and more interested in making good deals online based on different club and shaft reviews. This time I walked away with a different shaft than expected. Really looking forward to receive the Crossover 3 iron with a Tensei CK Pro Blue 80 shaft!
@@xNIKEGOLFx It's been a weapon for the last two seasons, creating less trouble off tee just as I wanted! The only thing I might tinker with is the swing weight, came in a bit lighter a D1, might try to get that to D3 as my irons just to get a linear feel through the set.
@@xNIKEGOLFx Ye sounds great! I've a local club builder who I'll reach out to. Still love the clubhead and it's launch/distance qualities. Now more about fine tuning
Links or Downland with wind into or off the side then the crossover possibly prevails. However, when you need height, forgiveness and want play out of light rough, the hybrid would win out. I personally use a 7-wood in that loft.
Well 3 weeks ago I played a 2 driving iron, 18° I think. Now I've kinda dropped it in favor of a 3 wood. I'd love to give that Crossover a try. I'm sure it's a lot better than my 2 iron.
I think the main thing is do you get it in the rough a lot or not, hybrids get you out and far where as the crossover might snag, just something to think about
i gave up on hybrids for them always going way left. my std play is str8 to fade. i got the 4crossover this year..i do have a 4iron but it's not as long and weaker loft than the crossover. i prob should have got the #3
Another thought would be the TM M6 5-wood versus the TM M6 3 hybrid, versus the TM P790 4 iron. They are all the same loft, so which one is best for an individual golfer?
Buy both and swap them out depending on how windy it is! LOL Seriously though these long irons are getting so much easier to hit my 19 deg Katoi might be gathering dust. Having said that can I get the iron out of 2 inch grass?
Is it me, I just don't notice the sound a club makes at impact? Anyway I'm currently waiting for a set of Ping G410s 5I to PW with 3 and 4 hybrid. I've decided to change my 16 year old Mizuno MX 20s which really are cracking Irons. I grew up with blades but always struggled to get my long irons into the air, possibly because when I 2as a junior blades were just like hitting a carving knife. For me game improvement Irons have worked a treat and I'm a mid single figure handicapper. I don't know if it's just me but the one problem I find with cavity backs is when I need to get a big fade, a draw for me I find easy. Anyway at the age of 45 now I feel that going forward the hybrids are just ridiculously easy to hit.
I have never been able to hit anything from 4 iron or up , hybrid all the way, tried the ping hybrid in a store hit them fantastic, took all the information like lofts, spin and lie to a club fitter and had them build, just for me, no brand name with the same shaft as my driver for around $250 Canadian cheaper for a 3 and 4 hybrid than the ping 3 and 4 hybrid, I am hitting them just as far as the pings, now is that cheating or i am I helping the local club fitter.
Love the what’s on the floor video. I’ll be happy to take that mini driver off your hands but please don’t put one of those crowbars you call shafts in it..a plain old stiff will do me just fine thanks.😁
Rick Whitney I have always used regular shafts and have an average speed swing. Changed to stiff shafts this year and love the feel. Hitting it straighter. Tried a heavy x-stiff in my 3wood but didn’t like it. If you can, experiment with shafts. Don’t get caught up in swing speeds. 👍
@@malfor007 Thanks Steve! i'm asking becuase i have a regular stiffness shaft on two hybrids and feel like they may be whipping too much (shots not hitting very straight). I was thinking of getting new shafts put on them but wasn't sure if swing speed was a factor.
I also have 2 Taylor Made hybrids .....both with stiff shafts. Those are my money clubs, ha. Atoms 7S and other a steel stiff shaft. The Atmos is very good feel!
If the wife would let me then I would have both clubs so I could choose which one to put in depending on course and course conditions Great head to head with those two cracking looking clubs
To be honest I have never used a hybrid and never use my 4 and 3 irons, if it's longer than 220 yard's it's a my 3 wood so I don't think I would benefit from one.
I’m using the 410 hybrids 4,5 and love them, I adjusted the loft down one degree to play with my i500 irons 6-uw. I’m running Ts3driver and TS2 3,5 woods. Love the gaping and so glad going back to dual hybrids in my bag.
I had the original Crossover having given up on hybrids... I switched to the G410 crossover this year and for me it's the most consistent club in my bag, much improved on the original in both looks and performance!
Struggled with my hybrid and just put the G410 crossover in my bag and seeing some great improvements, especially off a tee.
Keep up the good work James....
I have just changed my crossover for the hybrid g410. The hybrid gives me a lovely draw bias and stops quicker. It's also much more forgiving on off centre hits.
I just added the G410 hybrid to my bag and it's the best club I've ever had. It's amazing, just laser beams from everywhere.
My son has the 3 crossover and loves it, I’ve just gone from G10 to Titleist 818 H1 hybrids! I can hit a 1 iron and still occasionally play it but prefer the hybrids and can hit them low if needed!
Great video, again.
Some players just can’t game a hybrid OR a wood...though rare, I’m one of them.
I tried to get fitted for a new hybrid this winter at PGA Superstore...tried 8 brands in different shafts/lie combos...couldn’t hit anything consistent.
The ping crossover, for me, is much more consistent and versatile. I love it. I have the 2 iron.
Hi James I have a ping 400 crossover I bought at the beginning of the year mainly because I struggled with the hybrid I had .I play of 18 and this club has helped me on par rd and our 193 yard par 3
Saw my pro and got a G410 5 hybrid (25) to cover the gap from the longer irons that I have taken out of my bag. I play on a hilly, tree lined parkland course with small greens.
Really easy to hit and has an effortless high flight. I was also surprised by the spring off the face, carrying similar or last a Talyor made M3 21 I have been hitting. Very pleased and may look for some more (2 and 3 or 4).
As a mid-handicapper it is a no-brainer with hybrids everyday. I have a G400 and G series hybrid and love them both!
Just the comparison I’ve been waiting for. My longest iron is 6 and I want one or two hybrids to fill the gap to my 4 wood. Good you acknowledged the indoor hat debate.
Yup.. had the 2 crossover and it went like a rocket.. if you hit it out of the middle.. miss hits were punished.. hard to hit a high draw with.. Use the srixon one now. Much more forgiving.. bit wouldn't mind trying the 2 g410.
Pleased that you said about midhandicappers having different faults. Mine being the chipping yips. We seem to get categorised wrongly in general. Good review.
Great Comparison! So many nuggets of wisdom spread throughout the video on the differences between a driving iron and a hybrid and their uses!
I have 15 clubs in the bag ( i only play 14) and this video illustrates the reason why! Between my 3WD and my 4 iron I have 2 clubs that I alternate depending on the course, wind conditions and my general mood!
They are:
1) Titleist 718 T-MB 2i (17°), with Graphite Design Tour AD 95X Shaft
2) Titleist 21° 818H2 A4(20°), with Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 95X Shaft
I love them both. and each has it uses!
Just ordered the 2-iron version of the G410 crossover for playing at St.Andrews next year, also a member at an inland course called Blairgowrie so I'll use my hybrid there! I know, I'm very lucky...
I have the G crossover and love it. A lot more workability. It’s easier to hit a low or high shot when you want and draw or fade too.
I've used my 845 2 iron for decades. When I upgraded to the P-790s, I kept my 2 iron. That was until I hit the P790 2 UDI. Had a little adjustment since the shaft was an inch longer than my 2 iron, but boy does that club hit a sweet ball!! It's almost like having a 2nd driver in my bag. One that I can hit off the ground. And I can work it, draw/fade, just as easy. Love the club!! I tried the TM GAPR Lo, but it just didn't have the same feel, distance, or workability as the UDI. And luckily, in Florida, we've got fairways that'll run forever!! LOL!!
Try and keep the camera steady when showing chart data, and preferably all the screen data in one shot rather than move the camera. If possible side by side comparison charts on the same screen would be ideal as it’s difficult to digest the data quickly. A good video which answers the question many golfers are asking
I’ve never his the crossover but I hit the G410 3 hybrid this weekend and it was not for me. I know I was most likely the issue but I had a terrible time keeping the ball from slicing. I’m using Mizuno CLK right now and that has been the most reliable, forgiving hybrid I’ve ever used.
I have a Ping i20 hybrid that I've had for years. No intention of changing it yet, and if I did I would check out the Taylor Made GAPR first. Hybrids are excellent from a fluffy lie in the semi-rough too.
I use both off 13. Hybrid is higher, more forgiving and goes further. Hybrid also goes further left/right when it goes wrong ! Using hybrid off the tee need to watch tee height. Easy get too much loft. Summer months I use TMB 3 because straighter and roll out pretty much same as hybrid. That’s my take. Ping hybrid looks good but hate the look of those turbulators on top.
Great vlog James! Here would be an interesting comparison. The Driving iron versus the 3 or 4 iron from a set. FOr example, you can get the TMUDI in the P790 as a 2 iron, or the 4 iron from the P790. Would expect eh UDI to go farther but the 4 iron to be more forgiving. The question would be how much more distance would you need to get from the UDI to warrant it over the 4 iron.
Hybrid every day for me. I have a 2 hybrid 16 degree and it’s my go to club off the tee if I’m having a bad day with the driver, absolutely love it and it’s still great off the fairway on long or 5s with that bit more forgiveness
Really cool studio!! Put 19 hybrid in bag set to
+1.5 and use it A LOT!! Keep giving us the business and I like your mid handicap guy and segment. Only detractor is he smiles too much but has a good swing.
Would have to be the hybrid all day long! I recently done the same test and the game changer for me was when I did hit a bad shot the hybrid was better. Where as the iron you got punished.
First comment....great video. I have all Ping clubs except for my putter, so this video peaked my curiosity IMMEDIATELY!!! I have the G400 19 & 22 degree hybrids right now, and will be upgrading to the G410’s.
Craziness, putters are PING's bread and butter!!!!
I am still using the Taylormade 2015 RSI TP UDI #3. I love it but the head is tiny compared to the current driving irons. I have the GAPR Lo set in 2i specs and the GAPR Lo looks MASSIVE next to the 2015 UDI.
Need the forgiveness of the hybrid...but its nice to see how good the crossover is...thanks James
Great timing for this video just put an order for the G410 Crossover 3 Iron! After 7 years with the Ping i20 Hybrid in the bag I was on the hunt for a new club which could offer me stability and confidence off tee on tight par-4s. The issue I've had with the i20 ishigh launch, causing issue in headwinds and going (very) left on bad swings. So was looking for something that would offer a lower flight together with elimination of the left shots as much as possible.
Attended a demo day this Saturday and pretty much tested all available options from the different brands. Callaway Apex 2019 Hybrid was nice but launching the same as my i20 and salesman didn't seem very interested in finding a suitable option for me. So moved over to the Ping tent, the Crossover have had my interest since I first saw it online, it didn't dissapoint when I finally saw it in flesh. Was putting out balls on with desired ballflight, 3300-3500 spin, and most importantly no hooks, poor swings would at most generate rough shots on course. Tested the g410 Hybrid aswell just to get a feel for it, together with a heavier shaft, as a possible cure to my left shots were I tend to rush during the turn. Great ballflight as well, tad higher, but was again seeing the offline shots, both left and right. Distance was awesome, entering 3-wood territory, which would cause too much of a distance gap in the bag.
Previously I have been a bit neglecting towards testing clubs before buying, and more interested in making good deals online based on different club and shaft reviews. This time I walked away with a different shaft than expected. Really looking forward to receive the Crossover 3 iron with a Tensei CK Pro Blue 80 shaft!
How have you liked it? Just ordered 3 iron with this same shaft
@@xNIKEGOLFx It's been a weapon for the last two seasons, creating less trouble off tee just as I wanted! The only thing I might tinker with is the swing weight, came in a bit lighter a D1, might try to get that to D3 as my irons just to get a linear feel through the set.
@@Ader03A Yeah i noticed that! I might put some lead tape to bring it up and on toe side to even make it less prone to any kind of left miss
@@xNIKEGOLFx Ye sounds great! I've a local club builder who I'll reach out to. Still love the clubhead and it's launch/distance qualities. Now more about fine tuning
I have a 3 and 4 hybrid and love the flight when I hit them correct and they land softer
Great video as always pal! I have a 19 degree hybrid in the bag and the forgiveness is awesome!
Great detail /show here , Was going to mention it but see for yourself in PXG show
Cheers Andy
Just had a png iron fitting and going for a crossover as a 4 iron replacement and 5 wood
Links or Downland with wind into or off the side then the crossover possibly prevails. However, when you need height, forgiveness and want play out of light rough, the hybrid would win out. I personally use a 7-wood in that loft.
Great video i have the crossover 2 in my bag and love it! Not really a hybride player!
James that ain't a bad hair day, Mark Crossfield, now that's a bad hair day. Mornin' Y'all 😂👍
Well 3 weeks ago I played a 2 driving iron, 18° I think. Now I've kinda dropped it in favor of a 3 wood. I'd love to give that Crossover a try. I'm sure it's a lot better than my 2 iron.
I like the hybrid..never hit the cross over..would like to see a blog on which is the best hybrid for 2019..thanks James
I think the main thing is do you get it in the rough a lot or not, hybrids get you out and far where as the crossover might snag, just something to think about
I use the hybrid 22 degrees of loft...lovely club.
Will try the hybrid cheers James
Good information, thanks Robbo!
Hated my crossover. Absolutely loved my cobra adjustable though!
Great review. I wish I could use the Crossover, but I know I should use the hybrid.
i gave up on hybrids for them always going way left. my std play is str8 to fade. i got the 4crossover this year..i do have a 4iron but it's not as long and weaker loft than the crossover. i prob should have got the #3
Another thought would be the TM M6 5-wood versus the TM M6 3 hybrid, versus the TM P790 4 iron. They are all the same loft, so which one is best for an individual golfer?
I have a Ping 3I Crossover and I am thinking about getting a 2 if such a thing exists. Hybrids just don't look good to me.
i like them both:
15* wood
18* hybrid
21* dhy
5 iron
I like the hybrid, but the crossover has a sexier look to be honest. But hybrid all the way.⛳👌🏾
07:11 you're waking me up with a laugh ! great vid yet again James !
Thanks Mate!
Dont apologise for wearing a hat indoors its 2019 your not at dinner, good review like the crossover 👍
Buy both and swap them out depending on how windy it is! LOL Seriously though these long irons are getting so much easier to hit my 19 deg Katoi might be gathering dust. Having said that can I get the iron out of 2 inch grass?
Is it me, I just don't notice the sound a club makes at impact? Anyway I'm currently waiting for a set of Ping G410s 5I to PW with 3 and 4 hybrid. I've decided to change my 16 year old Mizuno MX 20s which really are cracking Irons.
I grew up with blades but always struggled to get my long irons into the air, possibly because when I 2as a junior blades were just like hitting a carving knife. For me game improvement Irons have worked a treat and I'm a mid single figure handicapper.
I don't know if it's just me but the one problem I find with cavity backs is when I need to get a big fade, a draw for me I find easy. Anyway at the age of 45 now I feel that going forward the hybrids are just ridiculously easy to hit.
Always push a hybrid - just not to my liking. Much prefer a driving iron
Has to be decided on a launch monitor during a fitting
I have never been able to hit anything from 4 iron or up , hybrid all the way, tried the ping hybrid in a store hit them fantastic, took all the information like lofts, spin and lie to a club fitter and had them build, just for me, no brand name with the same shaft as my driver for around $250 Canadian cheaper for a 3 and 4 hybrid than the ping 3 and 4 hybrid, I am hitting them just as far as the pings, now is that cheating or i am I helping the local club fitter.
Love the what’s on the floor video. I’ll be happy to take that mini driver off your hands but please don’t put one of those crowbars you call shafts in it..a plain old stiff will do me just fine thanks.😁
I see stiff and xstiff shafts on theses. Do they need a stiffer shaft.
What swing speed would dictate the use of a stiff shaft vs regular?
Rick Whitney
I have always used regular shafts and have an average speed swing. Changed to stiff shafts this year and love the feel. Hitting it straighter. Tried a heavy x-stiff in my 3wood but didn’t like it. If you can, experiment with shafts. Don’t get caught up in swing speeds. 👍
@@malfor007 Thanks Steve! i'm asking becuase i have a regular stiffness shaft on two hybrids and feel like they may be whipping too much (shots not hitting very straight). I was thinking of getting new shafts put on them but wasn't sure if swing speed was a factor.
I also have 2 Taylor Made hybrids .....both with stiff shafts. Those are my money clubs, ha. Atoms 7S and other a steel stiff shaft. The Atmos is very good feel!
another great vidoe
Higher or lower up to you....I would think.
Oklahoma weather? G410
Surely you will hit an iron straighter than a hybrid or wood all day long ,
Hybrid should go higher no?
I just feel I have more confidence hitting a hybrid
If the wife would let me then I would have both clubs so I could choose which one to put in depending on course and course conditions
Great head to head with those two cracking looking clubs
To be honest I have never used a hybrid and never use my 4 and 3 irons, if it's longer than 220 yard's it's a my 3 wood so I don't think I would benefit from one.
Hybrid should do better for us with slow swing speed
HYBRID
hybrid, balls dont spin much anymore, no need for super low shot anymore
Can hit an iron,can’t hit a hybrid
Apologize for a hat indoors? I always wear a hat at work...