I just got the ping g410 little over a week ago. With it in my bag I have gotten the most birdies in a week that I ever had. The club is nice and light so I swing is faster.
Anyone with the PING hybrid in the bag will tell you that it’s clearly the best hybrid on the market. It has an anti-left setting and it’s really not as loud as you make it sound in your description. Of green grass it’s very pleasing. Our club champion has one and he’s a +2 handicap.
Yup. Ping G410 3 hybrid and G400 3 wood in my bag and they’re both absolutely amazing. The hybrid especially is my favorite club I’ve ever owned. Thing has crazy pop and it’s effortless to hit well.
Just got the Ping G410 19 degree 3 hybrid today. Hit it in the sim and first strike cold i got 220 yrds. Has a very solid feel. I was using the cobra F-max 4 hybrid with 22 degrees loft. Getting 30 yards more out of my new ping.
I play off of a 4 and I got rid of my 3 wood for a strong hybrid. Its the best decision I have ever made. I hit the 18 degree hybrid just as far as my 3 wood with more consistency. The strong hybrids are long!
I have just bought my first hybrid as never had one before and loving it. My set of irons has 4 and 3 irons, I can hit the four iron very well I struggled with three iron. Now I can get good distance which I couldn't get from the three iron and the hybrid I bought was the c 300 Wilson staff fantastic.
I play 2 G410 hybrids at 19 degrees and 23 degrees (22 degree hybrid set 1 degree weaker) and they are really long. The 23 degree goes the same distance as my 19 degree Cobra F7 hybrid. Very forgiving and generally pretty straight
I own the previous model Epic Flash #2 Hybrid at 18 degrees with the stock Recoil ES 780 F4 85 Gram Shaft - it is cut 1/2" in length so plays the exact same length as the new Epic #3. The Recoil ES F4 in the last gen club is their Stiff Shaft but the ES stands for Enhanced Stability - i.e. it is reinforced with more graphite in the Butt and Mid Section for more aggressive type swings but still is suppose to have a slightly softer Tip section for 'feel' - i.e. to be mid / mid high launch. I was very interested to try the New Epic Hybrid #3 as it is also 18 degrees, and the same length, so I went to a Callaway Demo day 3 days ago and tried the new club with the new stock Stiff Tensei Silver Shaft also in Stiff - i.e. the club you just hit. Let me be the first to say, having just hit them both back to back, that this new 70 gram Tensei Silver Stiff Shaft, is clearly NOT aimed at the same crowd that the last gen 85gram Recoil ES Stiff shaft was aimed at - it felt like a wet noodle in comparison - basically garbage in my opinion (yes for me). Unfortunately because Callaway has changed their connection tip to a new generation, it does not accept older gen tips so that I could try different shafts that were available in the fitting kit at the time. I am a huge, huge fan of the old Epic Hybrid - I can fade it in for a 220 yard carry or tee it up and knuckleball it 240 yards on that tight par 4. After a bunch of hits trying to time the Tensai shaft, I was able to sample enough hits to know that it is 5 yards longer than the old club - ie. it was a 235 carry club for me versus 230 with the older club - and the much bigger head gives it very nice stability (and would have be way better if the shaft wasn't so bad). For me (108-110 Driver swing speed), the 18 degree Hybrid is an amazing club to have in the bag because it serves two roles: - tight Par 4 driving club - 220 to 245 into Par 5 club I like it also because it doesn't fly uncontrollable high like a 4/5 wood does - but can also be hit off the grass, with both a draw and fade, unlike my ability to do so consistently with a 2 iron (which would be really just a Tee only club). If you need a Taylormade P790 UDI 2 iron, or similar, then you need one. If you want a club that is far more flexible, then you should absolutely try this new Epic Flash #3 - but I would only recommend it with a far more stable shaft - and I love the fact that you can knock it down to 17 degrees, or make it upright if you want to dial the club in for a Draw.
Still haven't found any hybrid for my game better than the Adams Pro. Recently found a mint one at local used sporting goods store for $30. Hybrids are designed for consistent distance and accuracy. Not which one is the longest. Considering the new prices for either one of the Ping or Callaway hybrids, I'm very happy to save that money for more golf rounds.
Had a fitting for both these two today been a Callaway guy thought I'd go for the cally but no. Ping gave me better numbers and dispersion was very tight so ordered 17* & 22*. My first ping club purchase over callaway and I'm now looking at trying the driver.
Just wanted to let you know you've reached you're goal....I have lowered my handicap (a tiny bit) but I am enjoying the game soooo much more from a lot of you're little tips!! Thank you!
Epic Flash Hybrid (goes with my EpicFlash Driver and 3 wood) My bag is a mix of Cobra F max super lite irons, Cleveland wedges, an old Callaway Heaven wood, early Zebra putter. Mix or match whatever works. ;) ;)
@@ryandeery6930 for me its very accurate, very easy to use so very consistent all around. I use the epic flash 5 wood but ping hybrids, bit of an old soul and love a 5 wood, you can wind the epic down to a 4 wood loft, it flies like a bullet.
I game the Callaway Epic Flash Hybrid, cause i no longer carry a fairway wood. the flash hybrid covers the distance i need it to go which is 240 carry.
Personally, I like the matte finish on the Ping G410. I prefer a club that looks a little different out there, and as it turns out, I hit well with it. Also, I've taken to replacing the OEM head covers with the non-branded sort. I hate it when my golf bag screams out brand names like a neon billboard. They should be paying me to do their advertising.
James good review but I’m very surprised that out of all the RUclips channels I’ve watched on the Ping G410 hybrid only 1 has picked up on the fact that the Ping G410 has a game changing flat lie position which helps stop that big left shot on long par 3’s. I’ve hit mine a fair few times now and my big miss has always been left until now. It’s straight or the slightest of draws making it a game changer for me and I’m sure would do in this setting for many others also :-)
Of the 2 the epic flash wins because it better hits the numbers and does what a hybrid is suppose to do, go high and land soft, more distance is fine if it fits in your bag or does a specific thing you need it to do, like say a driving iron or what have you
I use Taylormade Rescue clubs (Hybrids), I have a 3, 4 and 5. I’m looking to get a 6. I love them, easy to hit and nice and straight. My long irons are sitting on a shelf now and will stay there as I’m a high/mid handicap senior. Would like to see a review of those
I own the g410 3hybrid and love it. Has anyone found that the club face scratches each time you hit the ball with it. I’ve owned mine for a few weeks and the face looks like I’ve owned it for years.
I’m less than 10 seconds in and I’m already saying the G410. I hate hybrids because they hook too much. The flat settings in the Ping have helped me overcome my PTSD related to OB left
Which is best? Neither, that honor goes to Taylormade M 6 Hybrids !!!!!!!!!!!!! Many fewer mis hits with it. My dispersion was far better too with M 6. Spider Dubiel said that! However love this review James!!! Well done !!!! And I would say based on the data here the Ping G 410 defeated the Epic Flash.
James, I wish you would focus on dispersion as much as you do distance. Forgiveness is just as important as distance for most of us. Personally I prefer a matte finish. I think the Ping is built to suit the player they cater to. Callaway, as of late, has been pushing the limit of distance so I am not surprised the Epic is lower lofted for the same # club.
Great honest review on two great looking hybrids, when I go for my driving iron fitting at the end of the month I will consider giving a hybrid a chance, I have struggled with hybrid clubs in the past but to be fair I have never been fitted for one so it will probably be worth trying
I don't want length in my hybrid. i want it to gap properly with my set. have some older amp cell. adjustability is key as they replace the 3 and 4 iron.
That surprised me James I thought the Callaway would have got the Ping on distance. I take the softer landing decent angle particularly when there was only a couple of yards distance in it.
“You asked the question who doesn’t hit a hybrid these days?” Well I don’t use a hybrid, driver or any woods, I’ve always struggled to hit them. TM 790’s 3 iron down to gap wedge with 54 & 58 degree Vokey SM7’s
Never had a hybrid in the bag tbh. I currently go 3i straight to 3w and previously had a 2i in the bag many years ago. If I was to replace my bag I'd probably go for a deriving iron instead of a hybrid
Trulsrohk I usually had a 2i in the bag also but once I got over my pride I think it’s way more useful to put a hybrid in the bag. The things just go so straight, they’re so consistent and easy to use and you can play them out of the thick rough, which you can’t do with the 2&3i. Only downside is that you can’t shape them like you can an iron, but like I said. They’re so easy to hit.
@@cam466 that's what I've thought regarding forgiveness, I just tend to launch everything high. Have been thinking both would be good for me, one in the bag for windy conditions, the other in the bag for calm
Trulsrohk yeah that’s good thinking having one for different conditions. The only thing that makes the hybrid universally productive is it’s usefulness out of the rough
I am still playing my 7 year old Adams Idea Tech V3 Hybrids ( 3h , 4h , 5h & 6h in set ) and Forged irons ( 7-GW ) ! I have hit so many other hybrids and still have not found one that performs for me as my Adams do ! I can hit a 3h from 190 and have it hit and stop and sometimes I get such good spin it will zip back about 5 feet if greens are being receptive !! love the shape of my Adams hybrids too , others are just to ugly and big for my tastes. Ben Hogan has hybrids that look similar to the Adams but I have not had a chance to hit one . I hate Taylor MAde since they bought out Adams and took all their ideas ( Slot technology ) and screwed over a great innovative company and shit them OUT !!! I will never buy a TM Product because of that crappy business move !!
I’m in love with the Apex hybrid in my bag right now but I’d really like to try the Flash to see if I get that little bit more forgiveness. I mostly use my hybrid off the tee. Joe
Do you have the 16' Apex or the 19'? I've got 3 & 4 Apex hybrids(16' version) and decide to get the Flash 3 hybrid. It feels very solid overall, but i honestly get along better with the apex. Forgiveness wise, it was a tad better but not quite as much as I was expecting. You don't really ever get the same level of feedback with the Flash as you do with the Apex either. Flushed shot sound pretty good, but much more muted then a flushed shot with the Apex. Missed shots don't have the same level of audible contrast as the Apex.The Flash 3 hybrid is obviously longer then the Apex 3 being 18* vs 20*, so depending on the yardage your looking for it might fit your needs.
Tyler Carlin Ended up buying a “mint” Titleist 818 H2 from 2nd Swing this spring for $87... absolutely loving it. Really liked the ability to tweak the loft and lie. I bought the 19* and am playing it at 18*. Fills the gap perfectly between my Apex (19) 4 iron and G410 LST 3 wood. Joe
Really interesting comparison test, great distances, very impressed with the performance of both hybrids, better distances than my driver! I have 2 Callaway hybrids (22 and 25 degrees) to compliment my Rogue Driver and Rogue 3 and 5 woods. Thinking about upgrading my hybrids to perhaps a Rogue or Epic of similar loft.
Would be nice to see distance control. Most tests I've seen the ping is always the most consistent but no one ever picks it....why is that? I'm looking at picking up my first hybrids and that confuses me. And i certainly have no brand loyalty.
Great review! I have to admit that those results were not what I expected at all from 2 hybrids that I think of as more mid to high handicap in design. Those were decent spin numbers.... and a slight fade bias with both? ***Did lowering the loft of the G410 open the face a bit? In any case, When I’m in the market for a hybrid I’m always looking for a few key things: 1) small face (the more iron-like the better) 2) solid sound/feel at impact 2) clean, uncluttered crown 3) ability to flatten the lie and open the face. The main reason those are my criteria is that my miss tends to be a hook. Most standard hybrids have too much offset and too much of a draw bias for me. if I can’t crank it open and/or flatten the lie most wont work for me. It’s why I game a Titleist 818h2. It’s fairly neutral for a hybrid plus it has all the adjustments I could want. Best of all, I don’t hook it which allows me to swing free with it! Back to James's review: I agree with James. For me the easy winner of this review was the Callaway. It wins on looks, height and spin alone! I'm not a big fan of mat black either. Thanks for the nice comparison!
After 2 back-to-back rounds where I had to hit my 18 degree UT out of rough with not so great results, I’m now looking to get a hybrid. Both of these were at the top of the list to investigate! I’ve never had a hybrid in the bag, mostly because when I tried the old TaylorMade Rescues, I hooked them like crazy.
@@ryandeery6930 since this comment I tried TS3 and that was eventually the club that I put in the bag and love it. Easy to hit nice flight and holds greens.
What is the availability of Japanese hybrids in the UK . Such as PRGR, Honma and Fourteen, all excellent clubs but I never see any reviews . Keep up the great videos
Titleist 818H1 is an excellent hybrid and super under appreciated in my opinion. I use the G410 3 hybrid and I love it so much but I love my 818H1 4 hybrid an equal amount. It’s effortless to hit
Always looking for height. My Brit/ Scot ancestry has bestowed a low linksy trajectory on me. Unfortunately here in Ontario, Canada we have wet, lush courses that reward higher trajectories.
I got Taylor made rbz 5 wood with the same type of sock head cover as callaway and many time people shout is this your as it rides up and falls off as I’m walking with bag on my back...bloody hate them boxing glove ones I find stay on so much better.
Wow so subjective. I feel the Ping looks premium and the Callaway looks cheap (in comparison). I like red so am also biased too. I tried the 19 g410 and the 26 g410. I hit the 26 amazingly on the range, but not the 19. Then on course took 2-3 shots to get in a groove with the 26. I was hitting it 175 carry which is a big difference to 5 iron though!
Had the G410 3 wood. Had to go. The sound is awful. Bought an M6. Much nicer sound. Callaway is much nicer to hit than the Ping. Epic is my next buy for hybrid
At no point do Callaway's woods or hybrids win "best"... their shaft offerings are garbage for tour level swings. It appears Callaway is forcing customers into $300 shaft upgrades. Very few stock options for heavy loaders, north of 111mph.
I just got the ping g410 little over a week ago. With it in my bag I have gotten the most birdies in a week that I ever had. The club is nice and light so I swing is faster.
Anyone with the PING hybrid in the bag will tell you that it’s clearly the best hybrid on the market. It has an anti-left setting and it’s really not as loud as you make it sound in your description. Of green grass it’s very pleasing. Our club champion has one and he’s a +2 handicap.
Yup. Ping G410 3 hybrid and G400 3 wood in my bag and they’re both absolutely amazing. The hybrid especially is my favorite club I’ve ever owned. Thing has crazy pop and it’s effortless to hit well.
Just got the Ping G410 19 degree 3 hybrid today. Hit it in the sim and first strike cold i got 220 yrds. Has a very solid feel. I was using the cobra F-max 4 hybrid with 22 degrees loft. Getting 30 yards more out of my new ping.
I play off of a 4 and I got rid of my 3 wood for a strong hybrid. Its the best decision I have ever made. I hit the 18 degree hybrid just as far as my 3 wood with more consistency. The strong hybrids are long!
I have just bought my first hybrid as never had one before and loving it. My set of irons has 4 and 3 irons, I can hit the four iron very well I struggled with three iron. Now I can get good distance which I couldn't get from the three iron and the hybrid I bought was the c 300 Wilson staff fantastic.
Loving the Epic Flash hybrids. The stated lofts on the 4 & 5 gap perfectly into my irons.
I play 2 G410 hybrids at 19 degrees and 23 degrees (22 degree hybrid set 1 degree weaker) and they are really long. The 23 degree goes the same distance as my 19 degree Cobra F7 hybrid. Very forgiving and generally pretty straight
I own the previous model Epic Flash #2 Hybrid at 18 degrees with the stock Recoil ES 780 F4 85 Gram Shaft - it is cut 1/2" in length so plays the exact same length as the new Epic #3. The Recoil ES F4 in the last gen club is their Stiff Shaft but the ES stands for Enhanced Stability - i.e. it is reinforced with more graphite in the Butt and Mid Section for more aggressive type swings but still is suppose to have a slightly softer Tip section for 'feel' - i.e. to be mid / mid high launch.
I was very interested to try the New Epic Hybrid #3 as it is also 18 degrees, and the same length, so I went to a Callaway Demo day 3 days ago and tried the new club with the new stock Stiff Tensei Silver Shaft also in Stiff - i.e. the club you just hit. Let me be the first to say, having just hit them both back to back, that this new 70 gram Tensei Silver Stiff Shaft, is clearly NOT aimed at the same crowd that the last gen 85gram Recoil ES Stiff shaft was aimed at - it felt like a wet noodle in comparison - basically garbage in my opinion (yes for me). Unfortunately because Callaway has changed their connection tip to a new generation, it does not accept older gen tips so that I could try different shafts that were available in the fitting kit at the time.
I am a huge, huge fan of the old Epic Hybrid - I can fade it in for a 220 yard carry or tee it up and knuckleball it 240 yards on that tight par 4. After a bunch of hits trying to time the Tensai shaft, I was able to sample enough hits to know that it is 5 yards longer than the old club - ie. it was a 235 carry club for me versus 230 with the older club - and the much bigger head gives it very nice stability (and would have be way better if the shaft wasn't so bad).
For me (108-110 Driver swing speed), the 18 degree Hybrid is an amazing club to have in the bag because it serves two roles:
- tight Par 4 driving club
- 220 to 245 into Par 5 club
I like it also because it doesn't fly uncontrollable high like a 4/5 wood does - but can also be hit off the grass, with both a draw and fade, unlike my ability to do so consistently with a 2 iron (which would be really just a Tee only club). If you need a Taylormade P790 UDI 2 iron, or similar, then you need one. If you want a club that is far more flexible, then you should absolutely try this new Epic Flash #3 - but I would only recommend it with a far more stable shaft - and I love the fact that you can knock it down to 17 degrees, or make it upright if you want to dial the club in for a Draw.
I have played ping hybrids from the Anser, and currently have the ping g series, I don’t think i would look at anything else
Still haven't found any hybrid for my game better than the Adams Pro. Recently found a mint one at local used sporting goods store for $30. Hybrids are designed for consistent distance and accuracy. Not which one is the longest. Considering the new prices for either one of the Ping or Callaway hybrids, I'm very happy to save that money for more golf rounds.
At that kind of loft I’d rather have a 5 wood. However I’ve just switched my 816 hybrid for a second hand G400 crossover, which just flies!
I'm a big fan of the matte finish and look of the 410. Good review
I use the g410 hybrid in my bag but I'm biased as my irons are the g410. I love my g410 hybrid
Had a fitting for both these two today been a Callaway guy thought I'd go for the cally but no. Ping gave me better numbers and dispersion was very tight so ordered 17* & 22*. My first ping club purchase over callaway and I'm now looking at trying the driver.
Just wanted to let you know you've reached you're goal....I have lowered my handicap (a tiny bit) but I am enjoying the game soooo much more from a lot of you're little tips!! Thank you!
I have the G410 ping hybrid and I absolutey love it but I don't fully understand the settings adjustments. Lie angle vs. Loft ?
Epic Flash Hybrid (goes with my EpicFlash Driver and 3 wood) My bag is a mix of Cobra F max super lite irons, Cleveland wedges, an old Callaway Heaven wood, early Zebra putter. Mix or match whatever works. ;) ;)
Ping G410 for me, great club.
How’s the accuracy Paul. Debating these two but swaying towards the ping
@@ryandeery6930 for me its very accurate, very easy to use so very consistent all around. I use the epic flash 5 wood but ping hybrids, bit of an old soul and love a 5 wood, you can wind the epic down to a 4 wood loft, it flies like a bullet.
I game the Callaway Epic Flash Hybrid, cause i no longer carry a fairway wood. the flash hybrid covers the distance i need it to go which is 240 carry.
Agree! Got rid of the 3 wood and hit the hybrid the same distance more consistently. Best decision I made and I play off of a 4.
Personally, I like the matte finish on the Ping G410. I prefer a club that looks a little different out there, and as it turns out, I hit well with it.
Also, I've taken to replacing the OEM head covers with the non-branded sort. I hate it when my golf bag screams out brand names like a neon billboard. They should be paying me to do their advertising.
James good review but I’m very surprised that out of all the RUclips channels I’ve watched on the Ping G410 hybrid only 1 has picked up on the fact that the Ping G410 has a game changing flat lie position which helps stop that big left shot on long par 3’s. I’ve hit mine a fair few times now and my big miss has always been left until now. It’s straight or the slightest of draws making it a game changer for me and I’m sure would do in this setting for many others also :-)
Of the 2 the epic flash wins because it better hits the numbers and does what a hybrid is suppose to do, go high and land soft, more distance is fine if it fits in your bag or does a specific thing you need it to do, like say a driving iron or what have you
I like the ping’s ability for flatter lie angle but prefer the look of the callaway. Sticking with my old trusty adams pro mini.
I use Taylormade Rescue clubs (Hybrids), I have a 3, 4 and 5. I’m looking to get a 6. I love them, easy to hit and nice and straight. My long irons are sitting on a shelf now and will stay there as I’m a high/mid handicap senior. Would like to see a review of those
I own the g410 3hybrid and love it. Has anyone found that the club face scratches each time you hit the ball with it. I’ve owned mine for a few weeks and the face looks like I’ve owned it for years.
I’m less than 10 seconds in and I’m already saying the G410. I hate hybrids because they hook too much. The flat settings in the Ping have helped me overcome my PTSD related to OB left
Haha I'm the same..I always look at my bag and go nah 4 iron instead.
Which is best? Neither, that honor goes to Taylormade M 6 Hybrids !!!!!!!!!!!!! Many fewer mis hits with it. My dispersion was far better too with M 6. Spider Dubiel said that! However love this review James!!! Well done !!!! And I would say based on the data here the Ping G 410 defeated the Epic Flash.
James, I wish you would focus on dispersion as much as you do distance. Forgiveness is just as important as distance for most of us. Personally I prefer a matte finish. I think the Ping is built to suit the player they cater to. Callaway, as of late, has been pushing the limit of distance so I am not surprised the Epic is lower lofted for the same # club.
I like the plain finish on the Ping .
Great honest review on two great looking hybrids, when I go for my driving iron fitting at the end of the month I will consider giving a hybrid a chance, I have struggled with hybrid clubs in the past but to be fair I have never been fitted for one so it will probably be worth trying
I’d go ping so I can set it in the flat lie to stop it going left
I don't want length in my hybrid. i want it to gap properly with my set. have some older amp cell. adjustability is key as they replace the 3 and 4 iron.
That surprised me James I thought the Callaway would have got the Ping on distance. I take the softer landing decent angle particularly when there was only a couple of yards distance in it.
“You asked the question who doesn’t hit a hybrid these days?” Well I don’t use a hybrid, driver or any woods, I’ve always struggled to hit them. TM 790’s 3 iron down to gap wedge with 54 & 58 degree Vokey SM7’s
Never had a hybrid in the bag tbh. I currently go 3i straight to 3w and previously had a 2i in the bag many years ago. If I was to replace my bag I'd probably go for a deriving iron instead of a hybrid
Trulsrohk I usually had a 2i in the bag also but once I got over my pride I think it’s way more useful to put a hybrid in the bag. The things just go so straight, they’re so consistent and easy to use and you can play them out of the thick rough, which you can’t do with the 2&3i. Only downside is that you can’t shape them like you can an iron, but like I said. They’re so easy to hit.
@@cam466 that's what I've thought regarding forgiveness, I just tend to launch everything high. Have been thinking both would be good for me, one in the bag for windy conditions, the other in the bag for calm
Trulsrohk yeah that’s good thinking having one for different conditions. The only thing that makes the hybrid universally productive is it’s usefulness out of the rough
I struggled with the Callaway, Ping 410 works better for me!
The callaway hybrid looks nicer and i prefer the epic flash hybrid
Where is there a review for the Callaway Epic Flash hybrid?
Thanks
Tried them both and ended up choosing Taylormade M6 hybrid, it just worked better for me
I am still playing my 7 year old Adams Idea Tech V3 Hybrids ( 3h , 4h , 5h & 6h in set ) and Forged irons ( 7-GW ) !
I have hit so many other hybrids and still have not found one that performs for me as my Adams do ! I can hit a 3h from 190 and have it hit and stop and sometimes I get such good spin it will zip back about 5 feet if greens are being receptive !!
love the shape of my Adams hybrids too , others are just to ugly and big for my tastes.
Ben Hogan has hybrids that look similar to the Adams but I have not had a chance to hit one .
I hate Taylor MAde since they bought out Adams and took all their ideas ( Slot technology ) and screwed over a great innovative company and shit them OUT !!!
I will never buy a TM Product because of that crappy business move !!
I like the G410 but is still like your video😝 one of the best I have hit...but like you said it’s personal and what you like...thanks for the review!
I’m in love with the Apex hybrid in my bag right now but I’d really like to try the Flash to see if I get that little bit more forgiveness. I mostly use my hybrid off the tee.
Joe
Do you have the 16' Apex or the 19'? I've got 3 & 4 Apex hybrids(16' version) and decide to get the Flash 3 hybrid. It feels very solid overall, but i honestly get along better with the apex. Forgiveness wise, it was a tad better but not quite as much as I was expecting. You don't really ever get the same level of feedback with the Flash as you do with the Apex either. Flushed shot sound pretty good, but much more muted then a flushed shot with the Apex. Missed shots don't have the same level of audible contrast as the Apex.The Flash 3 hybrid is obviously longer then the Apex 3 being 18* vs 20*, so depending on the yardage your looking for it might fit your needs.
Tyler Carlin
Ended up buying a “mint” Titleist 818 H2 from 2nd Swing this spring for $87... absolutely loving it. Really liked the ability to tweak the loft and lie. I bought the 19* and am playing it at 18*. Fills the gap perfectly between my Apex (19) 4 iron and G410 LST 3 wood.
Joe
Would like the to try the ping just because I prefer the look
Really interesting comparison test, great distances, very impressed with the performance of both hybrids, better distances than my driver! I have 2 Callaway hybrids (22 and 25 degrees) to compliment my Rogue Driver and Rogue 3 and 5 woods. Thinking about upgrading my hybrids to perhaps a Rogue or Epic of similar loft.
Titleist for me. Did you get the new TS2 & TS3 hybrids to test? Of these two I liked the Callaway.
I have 3 Callaway hybrids in the bag. It's easier to hit and shape.
Only edge I have over the long hitters....
Tested both today epic flash gave me 10 yds, better dispersion and more consistent shots
I’ve just got the Calloway after having the ping g410 very happy with the epic
Are you preferring the Calloway ?
Would be nice to see distance control. Most tests I've seen the ping is always the most consistent but no one ever picks it....why is that? I'm looking at picking up my first hybrids and that confuses me. And i certainly have no brand loyalty.
I will be looking to try these two against the new Callaway Super Hybrids. Cannot believe I am not seeing any reviews on them yet. Spider Dubiel
For me i use my g410 hybrid/4 iron as my main club to tee off so for me distance is ok but with my game all u want is accuracy
Great review!
I have to admit that those results were not what I expected at all from 2 hybrids that I think of as more mid to high handicap in design. Those were decent spin numbers.... and a slight fade bias with both?
***Did lowering the loft of the G410 open the face a bit?
In any case, When I’m in the market for a hybrid I’m always looking for a few key things:
1) small face (the more iron-like the better)
2) solid sound/feel at impact
2) clean, uncluttered crown
3) ability to flatten the lie and open the face.
The main reason those are my criteria is that my miss tends to be a hook. Most standard hybrids have too much offset and too much of a draw bias for me. if I can’t crank it open and/or flatten the lie most wont work for me.
It’s why I game a Titleist 818h2. It’s fairly neutral for a hybrid plus it has all the adjustments I could want. Best of all, I don’t hook it which allows me to swing free with it!
Back to James's review:
I agree with James. For me the easy winner of this review was the Callaway. It wins on looks, height and spin alone! I'm not a big fan of mat black either.
Thanks for the nice comparison!
After 2 back-to-back rounds where I had to hit my 18 degree UT out of rough with not so great results, I’m now looking to get a hybrid. Both of these were at the top of the list to investigate!
I’ve never had a hybrid in the bag, mostly because when I tried the old TaylorMade Rescues, I hooked them like crazy.
I bought the Ping G410 because the dispersion was better for me against the Epic Flash
Would you consider giving any of the cartbarnguys clubs a review? Particularly the wedges?
James I noticed in your reviews your total distance particularly with woods is almost the same as carry. Do you see that same result on the course?
Epic flash for me personally. Had the G410 and decided to change to epic flash. No comparison for me personally.
Is it as accurate Gary. I’m considering between these two ?
@@ryandeery6930 since this comment I tried TS3 and that was eventually the club that I put in the bag and love it. Easy to hit nice flight and holds greens.
Need to set your hypothosis before you start so you can have a winner not just based on choice
It only rolled out 3 feet? Went higher, with more spin? Averaged 0.1 left? I would choose the Epic Flash all day if those were my numbers
I WILL BE LOOKING FOR YOUR REVIEW OF THE CALLAWAY SUPER HYBRID !!!!!!!!!!!! SPIDER DUBIEL
What is the availability of Japanese hybrids in the UK . Such as PRGR, Honma and Fourteen, all excellent clubs but I never see any reviews . Keep up the great videos
Adjust the loft to reduce distance????
How about a 4 flash better distance for you also would give extra launch on poor lies rog
I tried them, the M6, Cobra F9 and ended up with the Titleist 818H1!
Titleist 818H1 is an excellent hybrid and super under appreciated in my opinion. I use the G410 3 hybrid and I love it so much but I love my 818H1 4 hybrid an equal amount. It’s effortless to hit
Always looking for height. My Brit/ Scot ancestry has bestowed a low linksy trajectory on me. Unfortunately here in Ontario, Canada we have wet, lush courses that reward higher trajectories.
Do progen still make clubs? I used to enjoy a progen.
Ian rushes Left foot sadly not I think. My trusty progen IWS hybrid broke apart last week, and got replaced by - A G410 hybrid
I got Taylor made rbz 5 wood with the same type of sock head cover as callaway and many time people shout is this your as it rides up and falls off as I’m walking with bag on my back...bloody hate them boxing glove ones I find stay on so much better.
I’ve Ping i20 irons and Callaway woods so this should be interesting 😃
I have the exact same set up in my bag. I went with the Epic Flash since it matched all my woods and love it
I didn't hear anything about dispersion. I tight grouping would be a seller for me. The Callaway would me my choice.
Wow so subjective. I feel the Ping looks premium and the Callaway looks cheap (in comparison). I like red so am also biased too. I tried the 19 g410 and the 26 g410. I hit the 26 amazingly on the range, but not the 19. Then on course took 2-3 shots to get in a groove with the 26.
I was hitting it 175 carry which is a big difference to 5 iron though!
Eric Flash height and spin MOST IMPORTANT Head cover
I dont like those head covers. The material part always starts to de thread on me and let loose.
height & spin is king for me so the epic all the way what about price?
Both nice clubs but I will stick to my secondhand Titleist 816s.
I'm still using a G5 and haven't found anything which really outperforms it
Callaway apex is in my opinion the best hybrid
Maybe try last year's m4 hybrid too.⛳
The one you buy is the one you hit best.
Watching someone else hit them won’t tell you.
Silly comment, as it begs the question- why did you bother to watch in the first place?
Callaway Epic Flash. I'm sure I should test both before buying. But the look of the Ping isn't for me.
maby if u hade kept the ping in its original setting the hight and spin and ballspeed would have been the same.
I am hunting for a hybrid.
Had the G410 3 wood. Had to go. The sound is awful. Bought an M6. Much nicer sound. Callaway is much nicer to hit than the Ping. Epic is my next buy for hybrid
So it looks like hybrids have turned back into woods.
What's up James
Yo Jake
@@JamesRobinsonGolfI appreciate that hard work you put into these videos for us !!
Why did I think you'd pick the CALLAWAY
G410
I agree
I hate stock headcovers. Never use them and sell them as soon as I buy the club
At no point do Callaway's woods or hybrids win "best"... their shaft offerings are garbage for tour level swings. It appears Callaway is forcing customers into $300 shaft upgrades. Very few stock options for heavy loaders, north of 111mph.
Ping for me!!!!
Accuracy everytime.
I don’t have a hybrid.
Epic flash
Sports Direct on top lol
Ping all day, always make the best hybrids / wood IMO.
The titlest 818 h1 is better
Apex 19 is better than both
play a links so want lower ball flight :-)
makes me laugh how callaway can call an 18 degree club a 3 hybrid, it's getting out of hand with these ridiculous lofts.
Taylormade high gaper
Ping