CHIP V's PITCH - Whats the difference and when to use them

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  • Опубликовано: 20 янв 2025

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  • @Loehmer66
    @Loehmer66 Год назад +12

    Chris, you are a fantastic instructor. Well done, indeed. Thanks for having done these videos … it always looks easy but the way you explain makes you want to try it out immediately.

  • @davidbigley800
    @davidbigley800 4 года назад +107

    Chris, being a seriously challenged golfer I watch a lot of instruction videos/you tube. I would say that of all, yourself and Danny Maud are the clearest and most easily understood. Closely followed by Steve Johnson and Matt Fryer. Thank you all. I am still s***t but now I know why!

    • @richardwilson112
      @richardwilson112 3 года назад +2

      So true, they are the best.

    • @nickcucolo8766
      @nickcucolo8766 2 года назад +1

      Check out Padrick paddy's golf tips are great aswell

    • @kula5151
      @kula5151 2 года назад +2

      Watch Rick sheils

    • @SouthMouth
      @SouthMouth 2 года назад

      I concur. I've watched a lot of videos and I'm thinking this guy is on my top 3 favorite RUclips instructors now lol

    • @McV1llaiN
      @McV1llaiN Год назад

      I can say your on the right path and you are watching the right people to learn from though!! i used to be a challenged golfer and after practicing my behind quarters off and watching the exact people you named im now back shooting in the 70s. Danny, chris, and Padraig, and golfTec guy jon i think it is( asian guy) are all really the best ive found. Plus my name is chris ryan 😂😂 and just like chris im on the taller side at around 6'2 so watching him helps me visually see how a taller individual does certain techniques and shots etc

  • @cedarhawkfan2791
    @cedarhawkfan2791 Год назад +9

    Just found your videos, this was the first one I watched, this chipping technique was different from what I have been unsuccessfully using, I used it and it probably saved me at least 6-7 strokes the first time out! You are very good at explaining and demonstrating how to make the shots, keep up the great work!

  • @davidtomsett
    @davidtomsett 3 года назад

    There are so many instructional golf vids on RUclips so you can’t follow them all. In my book there’s only you one need to follow - Chris Ryan, thanks so much.

  • @ronray3038
    @ronray3038 3 года назад +10

    Best video I have seen on pitching and chipping thank you!

  • @bladedog4110
    @bladedog4110 2 года назад

    I’m 56 only recently started playing. This video really helped me Tks

  • @64hoverair
    @64hoverair 2 года назад

    Great video Chris. Can' tell you how many times i've re-watched this video when things start going off. Thanks

  • @taylorhanes1717
    @taylorhanes1717 3 года назад +3

    This is the best pitching versus chipping video I have came across on you to possibly ever. Well done mate

  • @terrywheeler3536
    @terrywheeler3536 Год назад

    Chris ... Your method of delivery is so good it makes it easy to recall when you're playing. Thanks for all the time it must take to complete these videos. Brilliant

  • @robertbertke4999
    @robertbertke4999 Год назад

    Great video Chris. You keep your videos short and sweet and to the point.

  • @radayapala6090
    @radayapala6090 7 месяцев назад

    Chris,
    I am from Sri Lanka, your vedio explain Chiping and pitching in a way which is very easy to understand. 10:17

  • @juliandavis8053
    @juliandavis8053 4 года назад +1

    The clearest description I have ever heard....so much more helpful as it explains when to use which shot and club choice. If a future video can show what to do in thick muddy grass around a green that would be great as rarely conditions are so perfect ! Much appreciated!

    • @ChrisRyanGolf
      @ChrisRyanGolf  4 года назад

      Thanks Julian appreciate it and glad you found the video helpful, will bear that in mind for a future video 👍

  • @XB10001
    @XB10001 3 года назад +7

    Even though I knew the difference (and I practice both shots all the time), I still watched the video. You never know what else you will learn.
    The explanation was excellent, to the point, with good examples. Always nice to listen to a good instructor.

  • @drewlefevere
    @drewlefevere Год назад

    Your cuts are smooth. Balls disappear off the green but doesn’t sound like you miss a best! Nice editing

  • @redrider9920
    @redrider9920 3 года назад

    Learning everything about playing golf through videos on RUclips and yours are by far the most informative and helpful.

    • @ChrisRyanGolf
      @ChrisRyanGolf  3 года назад

      Thanks so much glad they are helping

  • @catherinepark7284
    @catherinepark7284 4 года назад +3

    Best description of the difference between these two shots that I've come across. Great video.

  • @TheLastDansMusic
    @TheLastDansMusic 4 года назад +6

    Chris, your vids are by far the best instructional videos on RUclips. Thanks so much for your work.

  • @joncarter9041
    @joncarter9041 3 года назад

    I keep revisiting this video to refresh my memory. My short game has improved vastly.
    Excellent tuition, Chris.

  • @cholosinpolosgolf1856
    @cholosinpolosgolf1856 3 года назад

    Thank you so much. This video alone helped me shave 10 strokes in less than a week. I played a 9 hole course on Monday and again on Saturday and I shaved 10 strokes.

  • @Dylan-SavedByGrace
    @Dylan-SavedByGrace 3 года назад +2

    As a new golfer this was the best breakdown between the two I've seen online!

  • @henkhamers1184
    @henkhamers1184 2 года назад

    Thnx Chris excellent explanation havent played for eight years and your mini course was helping me getting it back now practice practice and practice

  • @dericrighter7629
    @dericrighter7629 2 года назад

    Excellent explanation of the differences in technique between chip and pitch.

  • @moshilegrond3553
    @moshilegrond3553 3 года назад

    Best short game tips ever. This should easily move any amateur to Par 4

  • @nisartareen4646
    @nisartareen4646 2 года назад

    Very good demonstration and great skill of explanation

  • @peterfisher2726
    @peterfisher2726 2 года назад

    Excellent instruction and demonstration.

  • @angelaamoroso3279
    @angelaamoroso3279 3 года назад +8

    This is great. I have always been uncomfortable with a pitch shot as I thought you had to take loads of grass as well. So basically I have just chipped every short and not-so-short shot with my 7-iron. Resulting sometimes in the s-word (shank) or a totally out of control shot or two adding extra strokes. I now better understand the set up for a pitch shot and will practice various differences - as well as proper chipping set up. Just stumbled onto this video (lucky me!) as I have been pretty much hanging out with Rick Shiels and Todd Kolb. Thanks for a clear and concise session!

  • @paulroberts1346
    @paulroberts1346 4 года назад +7

    Cheers Chris, another quality lesson. My short game destroys my card, will definitely give this a good look at

  • @Victor60824
    @Victor60824 3 года назад +2

    Perfectly explained. Many thanks.

  • @timothywyatt406
    @timothywyatt406 Год назад

    How many people that watch this video will actually go and practice both techniques a few hundred times until it is automatic on the course?
    Good instruction and figuring out these two techniques will lower scores.
    Thanks Chris.

  • @cmt6
    @cmt6 4 месяца назад

    thank you for this video.. i understand what club and approached i need to use.

  • @daviddeboer668
    @daviddeboer668 2 года назад

    Wow, are you good. You are certainly in the top 1% of quality golf instructors. I just subscribed and look forward to a long relationship.

  • @katherineporter2654
    @katherineporter2654 2 года назад

    Great explanation. As a beginner this is really easy to understand. I will put it to the test today.

  • @markcaldwell3341
    @markcaldwell3341 3 года назад

    This video was extremely helpful. Very well done.

  • @davidcousins5116
    @davidcousins5116 2 года назад +1

    Hi Chris, great video and very easy to understand drill. Made a difference already. Many thanks. David.

  • @gmangman6442
    @gmangman6442 3 года назад +1

    Love your video, Dude. I’ve been watching pros on the tele (and I seem to have more time for that nowadays) and your video explains how they’re doing it!

  • @Liquidforce4441
    @Liquidforce4441 8 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic instructional video

  • @SS-by3dr
    @SS-by3dr 4 года назад +1

    Chris. Again, great video! Finally I understand the difference between Chipping and Pitching and how to decide what to do in different situations close to the green. From Spain, again thank you for another great video!

    • @mrr4979
      @mrr4979 4 года назад

      Do you? Lets explain..tq

  • @paternoborlagdan8586
    @paternoborlagdan8586 3 года назад

    Thanks Chris....nice and clear description of chip shot vs. pitching.

  • @LionofJudah1307
    @LionofJudah1307 2 года назад

    Best explanation if heard in a long time 👍🏌️‍♀️

  • @JDodds-j2n
    @JDodds-j2n 3 месяца назад

    A really great video. Tried it today and it worked. Can you do a video with uphill and downhill lies for chipping and pitching. Great coach.

  • @kiwibarlow
    @kiwibarlow 2 года назад

    one of the most helpful videos I have seen on pitching and chipping, I would only add that it is important to work out your standard pitching ratios with PW, 9I, 8I etc, i.e. 1-4, 1-3 etc re pitch to roll distance and how to then adjust these to uphil,l down hill, grass grain etc

  • @golfnutnz9274
    @golfnutnz9274 4 года назад +6

    Another great lesson thanks Chris, and maybe these shots are the ones most needing practice, because of the judgment and skill needed for distance as well as direction.
    ⛳️. 🏌️‍♂️

  • @henryyang3695
    @henryyang3695 3 года назад

    3:10 is great concept, noted, ty Chris

  • @jeffreyanderson5106
    @jeffreyanderson5106 4 года назад

    Once again good stuff Chris thanks. Youth is wasted on the young you know!
    The turf interaction with Chipshot :
    you contact the ground on the target side of the ball ⚽️...removing a chil of the turf ; Hence the name chip.
    and as you mentioned correctly with the pitch shot it’s simultaneous with the back of the ball pitching the ball ( bounce ) into the air with spin and higher trajectory.....
    The ratio of flight to runout is Gracie and will be a good reinforcement in the learning process...
    Carry on!
    The 7 iron has very little pounce so as to reduce trip interaction making particular that particular shot less likely to be the higher percentage shot⛳️🎲🏌🏻‍♀️🏌🏼🤺

  • @dl2821
    @dl2821 3 года назад

    Thank you! Pretty much an AHA moment for me - been looking for the formulae re club choice for chips!

  • @alimkura6509
    @alimkura6509 4 месяца назад

    I don’t mean to criticise as your explanation has been one of the best among the tens of videos I have watched to correct my short game, but I think the wrist position both for chipping and pitching you should put little more emphasise on. I thank you again for clarifying and simplifying.

  • @samkhan-eagle
    @samkhan-eagle 4 года назад +46

    The best lesson ever, very precise and extremely beneficial. Helped me greatly to improve my short game, many thanks Chris

  • @butthefactis
    @butthefactis 3 года назад +1

    Loved this video (and I've watched a few!) but this one is so simple clear & easy to understand, I've banged down on the subscribe button and looking forward to watching more!

  • @dm299
    @dm299 2 года назад

    Your videos offer the best instruction I’ve found on RUclips. Very easy to grasp for a beginner like myself.
    Question, do you have a video going into the size of a chip swing? A larger (or smaller) backswing and follow through with a given club clearly change the distance the ball travels.
    Any advise or directing me to another of your videos would be appreciated.

  • @bradfordcotta5925
    @bradfordcotta5925 4 года назад +1

    On chipping with the same style but different clubs. That is awesome. To help people decide which club to use, you should just mention the "Runyan Method" (named after Paul Runyan), also known as "The Rule of 12". It is easy to do the calculation and works great for people who don't have enough time to practice all the club combinations. Pick landing spot (say, 2 yards on the green) and simply calculate how many parts roll vs how many parts carry. So, if you are 3 yards off the green and want to land it 2 yards on the green, that is 5 yards of carry needed. Then, if there is another 10 yards from that point to the pin, the ration is 2 parts roll to 1 part carry (i.e. 5 yards of carry PLUS 10 yards of roll). Take 12 MINUS 2 which is 10. That is the number iron to use (10 is PW, 9 is 9-iron, etc.). So you would use a PW. If you were in the same spot but the pin was 20 yards from that spot on the green, that would be a 4:1 ratio (20 yards roll to 5 yards carry) so 12-4 is 8 iron. Very simple. If you are playing lightning fast greens or very down hill, use 13 as the number instead of 12 and if they are very slow (like aerated greens) use 11. So, on fast greens, you would use a 9 iron in this example (13-4) and if they were slow, you would use a 7-iron (11-4).

    • @georgiamay4045
      @georgiamay4045 4 года назад +1

      This is the best explanation I've ever heard of "Runyan Method" or at least the only clear one I've heard. I only use 3 different irons for chips myself .. a chipping iron .. a 56 deg lofted wedge and a 7 or 8 iron depending on how fast the greens are that day. But, I may practice the RM now a little more after this explanation .. so thank you.

    • @bradfordcotta5925
      @bradfordcotta5925 4 года назад

      @@georgiamay4045 Glad to hear it. Good luck. BTW, I chipped in 2 weeks ago with a 6-iron! Two of my buddies were in almost the exact same spot and tried to hit sand wedges. I make birdie, they made bogeys. It really does work, at least for me. I just "do the math".

    • @bradfordcotta5925
      @bradfordcotta5925 4 года назад

      @Chip in4seven Not sure what you're asking.

  • @outthere9370
    @outthere9370 2 года назад

    I'm a amateur. No club membership. No handicap. I just go out & have a bit of fun! Not really knowing wat I'm doin, technically. It's interesting watching people like Chris showing us "plebs" how it's done. Chris likes to promote the use of a number of different clubs when confronted with
    the "short" play. This is where golf gets interesting. What club to use re.
    distance. Well, I've rightly or wrongly chosen #8 iron 4 this job. I'm opposite 2 Chris where he'll choose a different club 4 different presentations. My point here is that I
    control my swing to get the same desired result as opposed to using different clubs. Golf is so complicated with so many variations to choose from! 6 to 1 or 1/2 a dozen of the other! 🤯

  • @grahammckinnell829
    @grahammckinnell829 4 года назад

    thaks Chris I found your definition of chipping vs pitching really spot on for me and then introducing the change in club selection for pitching based on desired result caused by club absolutely perfect for me to understand.Im going to search your vids for putting grips and style next

  • @clientbuilding8737
    @clientbuilding8737 2 года назад

    Great explanation. Thank you. Ric

  • @captcrunch3146
    @captcrunch3146 3 года назад

    Excellent instruction presented efficiently..thanks

  • @Chosil
    @Chosil 2 года назад +6

    Great video. This is a perfect basis for most players. Often the chip shown in videos of tour players is actually a pitch as wrists are being used, but as you said different definitions apply. What helps me playing a ball sitting on top of longer gras (which for higher hc is more often the situation than being on the fairway or first cut) is using less loft, for ex a gap or pitching wedge instead of a sand wedge. This way the club head doesn’t slip through under the ball so easily which avoids shots much too short. Thank you.

  • @dougchepil1465
    @dougchepil1465 4 года назад +3

    Thanks. Good refresher on technique. Well done as usual!

  • @paulgutermann8413
    @paulgutermann8413 4 года назад +1

    I tend to use the chip shot technique at both types of distance. From further away, I make the shoulder turn larger, increasing the arc length and perhaps a bit more swing speed. With a 56 degree wedge, I am able to carry bunkers or just a fair amount of rough. The problem I have is when I’m a bit too far for a chip technique to have enough carry and roll. This video should help me work on my pitches. Thanks.

  • @ritchiestevens3458
    @ritchiestevens3458 5 месяцев назад

    Great video
    Loved the explanation

  • @jamestailyour7348
    @jamestailyour7348 3 года назад

    Nicely explained. The short game is definitely the most difficult part of the game of golf

  • @staceydodson2161
    @staceydodson2161 3 года назад +4

    Thanks Chris. Very helpful. Great explanation. I struggle with the short game so understanding these points is great! And will help me with my practice & game.👍👍👍

  • @CubaJam
    @CubaJam 4 года назад

    Liked the video very much. Nothing is like a rule, it's always our own decision and you showed us the possibilities and what we could do and how to do it.

  • @harveypower7303
    @harveypower7303 2 года назад

    Great explanation of the difference between chipping and pitching, thanks Chris👍

  • @chryztian7
    @chryztian7 Год назад

    Thank you for the tips! great video

  • @georgiewalker1069
    @georgiewalker1069 4 года назад +9

    Thanks Chris. Really helpful lesson. Best regards from South Africa 🇿🇦

  • @pauldowdymd4404
    @pauldowdymd4404 2 года назад

    Great summary, thank you!!

  • @JMAC85
    @JMAC85 3 года назад

    Thanks Chris! Your short game videos have helped my game immensely!

  • @golfneophyte
    @golfneophyte 3 года назад

    Great clear instruction. This helps me understand the two much better.

  • @jsimpson669
    @jsimpson669 3 года назад +2

    Chris, your videos are the best and most comprehensive I have ever watched. You explain things so a beginner/high handicapper can easily understand the reasons for doing certain things. Understanding the "why" makes learning so much more beneficial. Awesome!

  • @georgiamay4045
    @georgiamay4045 4 года назад +6

    I'm supposing that these exercises .. especially the last several uploaded lessons .. have done me a bit of good. As in the previous note on this lesson: I played in the two day small time club championship. I counted a minimum of 10 terrible breaks that occurred. (One shot .. my second to a par 5..trying to bounce the ball on to a front pin.. the ball struck an old replaced divot.. the divot bounced high in the air .. killed the energy in the ball .. and the ball landed in deep rough 8 yards short of the green) Repeated bad break again and again. I had 6 birdies overall total for both days; shot 75 and 76 respectively. And finished with the low total of all groups .. in first place of my division .. with the low total of all divisions. So .... thanks CR .. I would say these have helped. :-)

    • @ChrisRyanGolf
      @ChrisRyanGolf  4 года назад

      Love this, awesome that you were able to go out and shoot scores like that, congrats

  • @JSW2610
    @JSW2610 4 года назад

    Never really understood the difference, had some coaching on the chip shot and it works but I've applied it to all situations, eg chipping over a bunker , I can get it over the sand but invariably it runs too far , I can now adapt the pitch shot instead. Really good point about understanding what suits the individual , need to improve this area as it's where i lose most shots, I'm either too shy or too bold with my chipping, glad i've now got an alternative to look at, especially from a bit more distance from the pin. Excellent advice as always , in comparrison to some other coaching on You Tube you break it down much better. Keep up the great work. Thanks

  • @huttboynz4422
    @huttboynz4422 Год назад

    Great vids mate, you are very good at explaining things, cheers.

  • @MichealBacon
    @MichealBacon 4 года назад

    Terrific explanation and video that clearly demonstrates the difference between a chip shot and a pitch shot.

  • @Mark-qc5ts
    @Mark-qc5ts 2 года назад

    Wow amazing, thank you, helped me so much 👍

  • @MelSJackson
    @MelSJackson 4 года назад

    A really informative video and very easy to understand. Thankyou.

  • @neilevans704
    @neilevans704 3 года назад

    Excellent video, well made. Talking degrees eg. 56, 60 isn't clear to Joe bloggs like me, who just own a box set which say pw or sw, so need to clarify club names as well as degrees. But as said found very useful.

  • @robrandall1540
    @robrandall1540 2 года назад

    This is a great video. Very succinct.

  • @Thebazzman
    @Thebazzman 2 года назад +2

    I’m a high handicapper who seldom can find the fairway in front of the green, can you show me how/what club when in the 2nd cut off the fairway when chipping or pitching onto the green?

  • @nealsokay3243
    @nealsokay3243 4 года назад +5

    Great simple advice as always Chris, especially on the club selection

  • @nwchurchill2556
    @nwchurchill2556 3 года назад

    Used the chip technique twice today over 9 holes, both to 5ft and holed out. Awesome teachings Chris!

    • @JEC1960ful
      @JEC1960ful 2 года назад

      Gracias Chris is very clear...but my problem is on my brain...my practice swing was perfect, in front of a ball I shortest my backswing inconcientemente and my followthrow shot is histeric. By the way I m horrible in the sand too...any comments??? I play de Driver and irons very good...a pitty. Sorry for my english

  • @shannonscorse1575
    @shannonscorse1575 3 года назад

    I’ll sure use these tips and hopefully improve my game around the green

  • @muhammadalam4482
    @muhammadalam4482 2 года назад

    Clear and precise

  • @paulgerton2573
    @paulgerton2573 3 года назад

    Excellent lesson!

  • @sgcitizen1063
    @sgcitizen1063 Год назад

    Great instructions!

  • @tathornton3950
    @tathornton3950 3 года назад

    Good work Chris!

  • @lkae4
    @lkae4 2 года назад +10

    It's all about the wrist hinge. Chip have very limited or no wrist hinge, like a putt. Pitch incorporates a wrist hinge so it's a trickier shot for most.
    Both are essential. Pitch shots in particular are very useful to get out of tree trouble and for damage control around greens.

  • @sandyttwong1976
    @sandyttwong1976 3 года назад

    Best instructions 👍🏻

  • @760284jackiegolf
    @760284jackiegolf 3 года назад

    Exactly the info I needed! 🥃🥃🥃Thanks for the details!

  • @takatastore6338
    @takatastore6338 3 года назад

    Very nicely explained

  • @11MOD2
    @11MOD2 Год назад

    Subscribed, this was an amazing video 🙂

  • @bamlani
    @bamlani 3 года назад

    Very well explained. Thank you

  • @padewitt
    @padewitt 3 года назад

    Great explanation 👍

  • @DK-zm2vr
    @DK-zm2vr 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the tip.

  • @touristguy87
    @touristguy87 Год назад

    Here is a very simple and straightforward definition that really highlights the functional difference...the naming is one thing, the shot characteristics another thing.
    Pitching I want relatively low ball flight and high turnout relative to carry. It is inherently a lower-energy shot relative to total distance.
    It is a low-rish shot in terms of the risk of blading the ball and of hitting the ball into an intervening hazard. This is an important distinction.
    A chip is relatively a high-energy shot with magnified risk in several areas with the key distinction of reducing the risk of hitting the ball into an intervening hazard. This is what clearly distinguishes a chip from a pitch. You are taking on all the risk of using a higher-lofted club than you would normally use for a pitch of the same distance... in conditions that would favor a putch...and hitting the ball too far or too short or the wrong direction or blading the ball all because you want more shot height and less rollout to hit the ball the same distance.
    Now the advantage of such a shot is that it is much more flexible than a corresponding pitch would be and tends to be more similar to a point-to-point game which is what you tend to see on advanced courses....you can't just spray the ball all over the place and march out, find it and hit it towards the hole without worrying about course hazards. So on hgh-slope courses golf becomes a series of chip shots vs pitches so yes it is very important to have the distinction clear and in my eye he has it completely backwards.
    Just as important we use so many clubs not because they are necessary but because each lift lends itself to different mixtures of the two types which smooth-out when shit distance is considered. You can hit chips with a 3-iron, you can hit pitches with a 9-iron even a 60w if you want to. The blade is always there. So the distinction between chips and pitches is almost as important as the distinction between draws and fades. Golf is a 3D game, 4D if you consider time. It is no simple matter to decide what club and shot-type to hit any more than to decide what line and speed to attempt a putt unless your skills are so limited that you have limited choices. As golfers learn and improve their skills certain shots tend to stand out in certain situations because golf is always a matter of risk vs reward. It is a simple fact that chips raise the risk to a higher minimal level than pitches do, just as hitting driver vs irons. But often, especially on difficult courses or even difficult lies on easy courses, the reverse is true because there are too many obstacles in the way for a pitch, they become much more risky than a chip. The trick is to properly ascertain the risk of disaster and the risk of success and factor in the pros and cons of a bad pitch vs a good chip and make a choice, pick a club, a stance and a target for both the carry and rollout, take the shot and live with the outcome. Golf is an exceptionally good mental and physical test that rewards good judgement and self-control. Unlike many sports which reward boorish behavior. Even celebrate it.

  • @MichaelWogamanGolf
    @MichaelWogamanGolf 4 года назад

    Great video. Great lesson in the differences between the two shots. Now to practice it. Cheers

  • @briansundgren3526
    @briansundgren3526 4 года назад +1

    hi Chris happy new year from Australia to you and your family and thank you for your instruction throughout the year it has certainly helped my ball striking cheers mate

  • @craigmackenzie8954
    @craigmackenzie8954 3 года назад

    Great lesson

  • @anzabob6850
    @anzabob6850 3 года назад +2

    These videos are a tremendous aid for self learning golf, and my shots have improved so much over the last week! I watch a video and go to the practise daily! :)

  • @gillesmoulart6784
    @gillesmoulart6784 4 года назад +1

    Hello Chris ! Very nice video ! Do you have another one digging more into the variety of pitch shot ?

  • @marilynwong1079
    @marilynwong1079 4 года назад

    Working hard on my short game this year. You always have excellent videos helping my game. No one explains as well as you do!!

  • @oneworld2642
    @oneworld2642 4 года назад

    I enjoy your golf lesson today ... great technique 😊