Nvidia's Misleading GPU - The 8400GS...

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • Hello and Welcome to another Budget Builds Video where today we'll be taking a look at the NVidia GeForce 8400GS, the final revision, but hang on a tic why am i talking about revisions, surely every card is the 8400GS, oh no far from it. So join me today as take a little deep dive into the world of the 8400GS, fine out how NVidia managed to sell 3 Different cards under the same name, and all the various specs each one of these cards could end up coming with...
    Well at least what i like to think I’ve managed to explain as simply as possible with a bit of history, some modern benchmarks, some overclocking, and of course all that Budget Builds Goodness, so sit back relax and enjoy as we uncover just what is going on with this sketchy little release
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    GPU: Geforce 8400GS DDR2 Rev 3
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Комментарии • 855

  • @SZALDOWAR
    @SZALDOWAR 4 года назад +216

    FROBOT!!

    • @2500hd_idk
      @2500hd_idk 4 года назад +1

      Rincyy ok 👍

    • @jimtekkit
      @jimtekkit 4 года назад

      Dat Boi, before it was a meme.

    • @ethograb
      @ethograb 4 года назад +2

      Is there a high quality image of this box art somewhere it would make a great wallpaper.

    • @mish1195
      @mish1195 4 года назад

      frobot is our lord and savior

    • @SZALDOWAR
      @SZALDOWAR 4 года назад

      ethograb there is, just google “frobot palit”

  • @OneCosmic749
    @OneCosmic749 4 года назад +683

    You should have paired this with a Celeron D for some ultimate gaming experience.

    • @AcornElectron
      @AcornElectron 4 года назад +2

      One Cosmic ☺️

    • @AcornElectron
      @AcornElectron 4 года назад +10

      Pinchie Alarm
      step one, select that gpu
      step two, shit computer

    • @DOSBrony
      @DOSBrony 4 года назад +35

      I had this card + a celeron D back in the day. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • @Celeron_619
      @Celeron_619 4 года назад +9

      I have a old Dell Optiplex with a Celeron D and a PCI 8400 GS 8 core version. Would be interesting.

    • @akilaathi458
      @akilaathi458 4 года назад +2

      it needs the d

  • @redrose8322
    @redrose8322 4 года назад +156

    The packaging is probably more expensive that the GPU itself

  • @Solbady
    @Solbady 4 года назад +132

    I feel for the guy who was sold the 8400GS over the 6800 for the exact same reason. Back in 2009 I was sold a 9800 GT over a GTX 280 because "bigger number is better!"

    • @Churchgrimm
      @Churchgrimm 4 года назад +27

      I have to wonder if most salespeople who say stuff like that are doing so out of intent to deceive or just genuine ignorance, or somehow both.

    • @_Moth_.
      @_Moth_. 4 года назад +12

      @@Churchgrimmin the case of maplin at least, they are notorious in the UK for price gouging and terrible advice.

    • @retrogeek4372
      @retrogeek4372 4 года назад +2

      Could have been worse. Like a Geforce 7100GS.

    • @test-ne6gf
      @test-ne6gf 3 года назад

      I bet you`re the kind of person who [if American] when you were a little kid, your big brother successfully convinced you to trade him his nickel for your dime because "bigger is better". ;-)

    • @Dimondminer11
      @Dimondminer11 3 года назад

      oof

  • @Heptad
    @Heptad 4 года назад +90

    Well, I can see why so many of these caught fire.
    People were trying to do crazy things with it like, oh I don't know... emulate the PS2. 🤣

    • @starlordyt6151
      @starlordyt6151 4 года назад

      How's the performance?

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 4 года назад +11

      @@starlordyt6151 Given that emulating a Gamecube required having to use a lower resolution than the Gamecube itself, and given that my Acer Aspire (from 2011 - i5 480M) with integrated graphics could not even emulate a PS1 very well, I doubt this thing can emulate a PS2.

    • @jokerzwild00
      @jokerzwild00 4 года назад +1

      @@TheSpotify95 Honestly it depends on the CPU it's paired with. PS2 emulation is very CPU intensive, I could see it running full speed, 1x resolution, no extras with a decent processor and ram.

    • @RobertJeffersonBased
      @RobertJeffersonBased 4 года назад +2

      @@TheSpotify95 How can your computer not emulate the PS1? My raspberry pi 3 b can.

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 4 года назад

      @@RobertJeffersonBased the Acer Aspire had a built in overheating issue which would not allow anything CPU intensive.
      My current laptop, a HP 15-ac153sa, runs PS1 emulation just fine. Probably need my gaming laptop for reliable PS2 emulation though

  • @XEROXAYUKI
    @XEROXAYUKI 4 года назад +63

    I think i had this gpu...before i knew anything about gpu

    • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
      @BudgetBuildsOfficial  4 года назад +11

      Sounds about right

    • @fiturry
      @fiturry 4 года назад +11

      @@BudgetBuildsOfficial i remember i had this gpu to do an "upgrade" to my 7200 GS,,,,, since the performance increase was so small i learned my first big lesson in GPUs... never trust the marketing numbers and more VRAM didnt mean better performance

    • @Nick-ue7iw
      @Nick-ue7iw 4 года назад

      @@fiturry Same.

    • @lunear9989
      @lunear9989 4 года назад

      Nick me as well

    • @Mini-z1994
      @Mini-z1994 4 года назад

      ​@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Had a 8300 gs laying around i messed about with overclocking via nvinspector a few years back.
      (Much larger sliders going beyond what the gpu can be stable at while i could max out the sliders in msi afterburner on the card just fine heh, same with the nvidia 8500 gt i got in my testrig atm.)
      If i recall correctly it went from around 10k points in 3dmark too around 13.7k points in 3dmark 2001se
      The 8300 gs is very much similar too the 8400 gs version with 8 cuda cores but 128 mb vram instead.
      Meanwhile something like the Nvidia 8500 gt does 19.9k points on stock settings. (439 mhz core, 333 mhz ram, 918 mhz shader clock.)
      In my core 2 duo @ 4ghz pc here and goes up too 27k points with an overclock too 730 mhz core 420 mhz ram & 1600 mhz shader clock.
      and yes its 2001se ofc i did this test with.

  • @amp888
    @amp888 4 года назад +189

    "Nvidia's Misleading GPU"

    • @thomaskelly2108
      @thomaskelly2108 4 года назад +42

      @Pinchie Alarm pretty decent gpu, it was just marketed as a 4GB card despite being 3.5GB. There was a large lawsuit regarding this.

    • @AlfaPro1337
      @AlfaPro1337 4 года назад +30

      The 970 has 4 gigs, just when hitting the defective memory controller on the last 512 megs, it slows or not, this is all depending on the silicon lottery.

    • @arkplaysgame3826
      @arkplaysgame3826 4 года назад

      @@AlfaPro1337 yeah it kinda tank when the wrm usage is above 3.5 gb if not its a great card a friend of mine still have it

    • @yubos98
      @yubos98 4 года назад +14

      970 is still one of the best GPUs to be ever produced. In late 2014 it was king and 512 mb of slower memory didn't cause issues at all. In fact it didn't cause issues at all throughout it's lifecycle so yeah, Nvidia may have put half a gb of slower memory into the 970, but it was legendary at how great it performed, don't even try to compare it to this turd.

    • @ABaumstumpf
      @ABaumstumpf 4 года назад +23

      The GTX 970 has 4 GB and no, no memory-controller is "defective". One L2-cache-block is disabled leaving 2 MCs going through the same cache, which means the 3.5GB and the 0.5Gb can not be doing the same operation at the same time. The lawsuit was becuase their marketing-department initially gave out wrong informations about the number of ROPS and amount of cache.

  • @johnygiant
    @johnygiant 4 года назад +145

    I've had PCs with FX5200 and the 8400 GS and still managed to game
    At 7 fps average

    • @bricebeaurepaire8862
      @bricebeaurepaire8862 4 года назад

      Same here, I had a PC with a FX5200 and switched it for a 8400GS i bought on a garage sale for like 20€

    • @VolumeZero374
      @VolumeZero374 4 года назад

      its in my laptop and i play gmod at 120 fps

    • @DarkWiNKenzo
      @DarkWiNKenzo 4 года назад

      I mean, i still have a FX8120 with an (AMD) Asus Radeon HD 7600 OC’ed, and i still get pretty decent averages with "modern titles" such as 30 FPS on War thunder all high, gta 5 runs at a respectable 36 FPS when i am being moderate, and games like Overwatch ? 60fps medium, all that with a 900p monitor (AKA the recommended resolution for the card)

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 4 года назад

      intel HD graphics: guys look, im not so bad after all!

    • @sragveesatluri4961
      @sragveesatluri4961 3 года назад +2

      @@bricebeaurepaire8862 I'm 90% sure that's a ripoff

  • @GamingVideoFHD
    @GamingVideoFHD 4 года назад +15

    Three different cards is not confusing compared to other thing about this card. GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 3 uses GT218 graphics core which is used AT 28 DIFFERENT cards. All these cards have exactly same GT218 core (16 Sharder units/ 8 TMU/ 4 ROP) just have different memory and clock configuration. There is list of them all:
    Desktop cards:
    GeForce 205 OEM
    GeForce 210
    GeForce 210 Rev. 2
    GeForce 310 OEM
    GeForce 315 OEM
    GeForce 405 OEM
    GeForce 505 OEM
    GeForce 8400 GS PCI
    GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 3
    GeForce 9300 GS Rev. 2
    GeForce 9400 GT Rev. 3
    GeForce G210 OEM Rev. 2
    NVS 300
    Quadro FX 380 LP
    Mobile cards:
    GeForce 305M
    GeForce 310M 1024 MB, DDR3 606 MHz (core) 667 MHz (memory)
    GeForce 310M 512 MB, DDR3 625 MHz (core) 790 MHz (memory)
    GeForce 310M 512 MB GDDR3 625 MHz (core) 800 MHz (memory)
    GeForce 315M
    GeForce 405M
    GeForce G105M 512 MB DDR3 , 535 MHz (core) 790 MHz (memory)
    GeForce G105M 256 MB GDDR3, 500 MHz (core) 700 MHz (memory)
    GeForce G210M
    ION
    ION 2
    NVS 2100M
    NVS 3100M
    Quadro FX 380M
    This is what is what I am calling "confusing"

    • @francistheodorecatte
      @francistheodorecatte 4 года назад +2

      GamingVideoFHD oh so that's why the GPU in my ThinkPad T430s (Quadro NVS 2100m) is such a potato

    • @BeefJerky4104
      @BeefJerky4104 4 года назад +1

      Great comment dude!

  • @crayonmunch
    @crayonmunch 4 года назад +1

    Swear I seem to wait all week for your vids, like I do forget but then it shows up in my feed and im immediately watching it! Keep it up :)

  • @haroldwillsoon6442
    @haroldwillsoon6442 4 года назад +1

    I love the videos where you test these old forgotten cards, awesome stuff!

  • @addasahmad6599
    @addasahmad6599 4 года назад +3

    Dude! not only do you have quality vids, but You also have a soothing voice and nice music. Keep up the great work!

    • @lionfire3359
      @lionfire3359 4 года назад

      Truth be told brother. I ca ome here for only the mesmerizing English voice.

  • @ryanmalin
    @ryanmalin 3 года назад +1

    Great video!! And cool Robot! I loved the artwork that used to come with GPUs. My last old school GPU was a Radeon HIS HD5770 IceQ 5 Turbo 1GB. I bought it to play Race 07 which is a sim racing game from Sim Bin. I had a Logitech Driving Force GT steering wheel and a 32 inch LCD TV that my cousin found in the trash. I had a Intel Pentium 4 @3.06GHZ single core with hyperthreading. That computer ran great!

  • @alexandrosnaoum1318
    @alexandrosnaoum1318 4 года назад +4

    The G86 (8400GS and 8600GS) for laptops (M siries) where notorius for the failures. So many laptop vendors fell to the trap.

  • @bigpierogi
    @bigpierogi 4 года назад +14

    Our king has returned, Frobot

  • @LeadHeadBOD
    @LeadHeadBOD 18 дней назад +1

    6:24 - one of such people was me! Still was rocking the 8400 around 2016,no idea which rev I had (had no idea the revisions were even a thing). Hell, I even played earlier versions of the game on a Pentium 4 (albeit one of the more powerful ones). Seeing those chunky 20fps brings back so many memories. I did play at 640x480 however with everything absolutely turned to the lowest, some maps were entirely playable and some positions you could even get a pretty solid 50fps... that is unless smoke grenades started flying around of course. With all that, I still was able to get pretty far in the competitive ranked mode.
    What killed it for me was that I was still on a 32-bit system. They updated the map de_nuke to the version that still holds to this day and it was way more graphically intensive. After about 10 rounds, I had to ask my team to pause, restart and reconnect to the game, otherwise it would hard crash with an out of memory error which would actually take longer to get back into. And so the map basically became unplayable and the performance kept getting worse every update, so I had to call it quits at one point.

  • @mradminus
    @mradminus 4 года назад

    @Budget-Builds Official
    What a lovely tech channel I found, you're very knowledgeable and test things that normal people can relate to(not just the top of the line).

  • @FullyBuffered
    @FullyBuffered 4 года назад +3

    Ha that's fascinating, I really wasn't aware this card was actually released three times under the same freaking name! I'm actually quite surprised how they kept that same name with the 2010 update, over three years after the initial release. If only they would re release the GT1030 this year as the 8400GS rev 4 :D

  • @DanielC2LS
    @DanielC2LS 4 года назад +16

    OMG! i feel the pain you had to go throw to benchmark it.
    I bet that dislike its still an owner of this GPU.

  • @haqiem4010
    @haqiem4010 4 года назад +6

    I remember using this along with Pentium E5700 and Nvidia 8400GS. Miss it

    • @rolando1259
      @rolando1259 2 года назад +1

      My old pc had that cpu and gpu mix and 4 gigs of ram ddr3.
      Actually great.
      Finally it broke, i use a pentium dual core e2200, e8400gs and 4 gigs of ram ddr3, and the same hdd lol and i changed the case.

    • @haqiem4010
      @haqiem4010 2 года назад +1

      @@rolando1259 same

  • @Petar321_GT
    @Petar321_GT 4 года назад +17

    Beta 2012 CSGO runs fine on 800x600, new one wont even start on my variant.

    • @JP-nx5sc
      @JP-nx5sc 3 года назад +1

      Yeah it runs so bad on my pc I may as well start using a crt monitor lmao

    • @Petar321_GT
      @Petar321_GT 2 года назад

      @@JP-nx5sc I daily drive my first CRT even with a newer card, its pretty good!

  • @arrowflashbr
    @arrowflashbr 3 года назад +2

    My experience with the 8400GS wasn't too bad. Back in 2008 I was building a new PC and purchased an 8400GS as a stopgap for a few months while I was saving money to buy a 9800GTX+ together with a 1440x900 monitor (the motherboard had no built-in graphics so I needed a display adapter card, and the video card in my old computer was AGP so I couldn't just use that). My 8400GS was a rev1 G86 model with 512 MB of DDR2 memory, built by ECS. It was a retail version and came in actually pretty nice and well-made packaging for such a budget card.
    The 8400GS ran games better than I expected. Paired with a Core 2 Duo E8500, I remember being able to play Quake 4, Doom 3, FEAR, FarCry and GTA San Andreas on it and getting 60 fps at 1024x768 with medium settings, and even high settings in a few games. It certainly wasn't as terrible as most RUclips videos and reviews make it seem to be. Maybe it was the fact that it was a G86, or something particular to my setup, or maybe I just won the silicon lottery in this case.
    After a few months when I completed my new setup, I sold the 8400GS to a coworker for 50 bucks. He seemed pretty satisfied with it.

  • @freyattila
    @freyattila 4 года назад +41

    Just happened to have a 8400GS rev.2 512 gddr3 paired with a Celeron D, the card was supposed to be an upgrade over a 7600GS some moons ago, turned out to be more like a downgrade.

    • @raddysurrname7944
      @raddysurrname7944 4 года назад

      I believe you meant months, not moons :-)

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 4 года назад +13

      @@raddysurrname7944 he probably meant moons. it's a saying

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 4 года назад

      That sounds like a prebuilt sold on "With 2.8 GHz Intel Processor and DirectX 10 nVidia Graphics!"

    • @freyattila
      @freyattila 4 года назад

      @@HappyBeezerStudios Was a custom build by me focusing on low cost at first, later got some decent parts to it like 4 gigs of ddr2, a 4670 hd 512mb and overclocking the cpu to 3.8 ghz. Some of the later overclocking adventures came at a cost of requiring more cooling and a few replacement PSU's.

    • @sjogosPT
      @sjogosPT 2 года назад +1

      I had a 7600GS (AGP), and was a nice card. Replaced a dead ati 9600xt on my aging athlon xp 2500.
      At time i feelt the speed difference. Played games like lineage 2, silent hill 3, need for speed underground 2/most wanted, all run pretty well.
      Ofc iam talking about windows XP computer and 1024x768 resolution, that was the common resolution at time.

  • @davependragon1
    @davependragon1 4 года назад +25

    Do you live with the Randomgamingguy?

  • @bort900
    @bort900 4 года назад

    I used one in a hackintosh for a while to get multi monitor. Since Apple shipped the 8400GS as the low power GPU on the macbooks, driver support was very good for getting a 8400GS to work in hackintosh. Very nice Video!

  • @johngregorios3888
    @johngregorios3888 4 года назад

    Always on a lookout for new videos 🤟

  • @davejnathan10
    @davejnathan10 4 года назад +3

    On the box : "Play it, Tweak it, Get more out of it."
    It sounded like a sarcasm rather than advertisement

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 4 года назад +8

    I had a *fanless* 8400GS Rev 2 for ages, and have been using a *fanless* GT210 for a few years. They've all been *completely adequate for my tasks.* Soon I'm going to get the urge to install a *fanless* GT730.
    To buy an actively cooled version of one of these cards is insane.

  • @KokoroKatsura
    @KokoroKatsura 4 года назад

    you gotta include win waker benchmarks in the future as well!
    got win waker back in christmas 2oo3

  • @stevelalancette6988
    @stevelalancette6988 4 года назад +15

    I really like this new channel. I'm not into 'PC master race' and this kind of videos suit me well.

  • @MLWJ1993
    @MLWJ1993 4 года назад +9

    Oh wow, something my iGPU finally *can* beat D:

    • @tilburg8683
      @tilburg8683 4 года назад +1

      It could Also beat a GT710 depending on which one you have.

    • @texemplarstudios5481
      @texemplarstudios5481 4 года назад

      Mark Jacobs what igpu is it

  • @BeefJerky4104
    @BeefJerky4104 4 года назад

    Yesterday I was actually in my work's IT equipment storage room and was looking though a box of old graphics cards we keep as back-ups. You can bet there were some 8400GS' in there along with some other low end cards, from both NVIDIA and AMD. It's an office environment though, so obviously we don't have the need for gaming cards. We just keep them in stock in case one of the premade systems around the office needs a replacement card dropped in.

  • @marinhaalternativa3829
    @marinhaalternativa3829 4 года назад +4

    Here in Brasil, some ppl still selling the GT9800 with prices as high as a GTX550

  • @Fender178
    @Fender178 4 года назад +1

    I have one of these cards and they are excellent for troubleshooting PCs because of the low power requirement. Also another good thing about the card is that it has the common video ports (VGA,DVI and HDMI) Also they are good for Home Theater PCs as well. My version has 512mb of VRAM though.

  • @Petman1325
    @Petman1325 4 года назад

    I remember buying an 8400GS for my Pentium 4 because I didn't know too much about computers at that point and it was one that was still compatible with PCI. I later rectified it by getting a Radeon HD 4670 for the AGPx8 slot, and that was a radical change.

  • @SummonerArthur
    @SummonerArthur 4 года назад +6

    I had one of these and... I actually liked it.
    Even if I paid a very bad price for it back then (but not the full price for sure) it gave me a lot of fun, since it ran games waaaaaaaay better than my VIA Chrome 9, and if I'm not mistaken, mine had 512mb vram, so I had a better experience than yours.
    Ran NFS U2 and minecraft in it for a loong time.
    Sadly, but also thanks god, mine stopped working just 2 days after I had bought a gt430.
    Mine looked exactly like yours, but mine had a black board and was a zotac if I'm not mistaken.

  • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
    @amirpourghoureiyan1637 4 года назад

    I use one in a retro PC for early 2000s games, the ubiquity of the card in prebuilts makes them pretty easy to come by as people are throwing them out now. I've ended up with two from friends downsizing their old web-browsing PCs.

  • @automanium4563
    @automanium4563 4 года назад +10

    Hey Budgetbuilds do the emachine series

  • @williampaabreeves
    @williampaabreeves 3 года назад +2

    For Civilization V you should try stategic view, as that vastly simplifies the graphics and might make it playable, its the little tiles icon next to the minimap

  • @traytoncrockernichols9425
    @traytoncrockernichols9425 4 года назад +1

    Hey would you be willing to do a review on the not so known version of the gtx 460, the 768mb version? i personally have one and i think it would suprise you in what it can do

  • @leogiri2863
    @leogiri2863 2 года назад

    I have a question: I happen to have this display adapter in my laptop, and I would really appreciate to download drivers, despite nvidia feeling differently about it. Do you know where I could find drivers other than nvidia's website?

  • @UrokLizard
    @UrokLizard 4 года назад +3

    Nobody noticed the graphics glitch at 7:03 ? "GTA 5 sort of runs... just not very well" then big ol graphics glitch

  • @zinkpopovitch9519
    @zinkpopovitch9519 4 года назад +1

    6:40 Damn, Lego City Undercover looks sweet!

  • @TheKlipski
    @TheKlipski 4 года назад

    simcity (2013) music in background, Nice!

  • @pastasauce8919
    @pastasauce8919 4 года назад

    Had this in my XPS m1330 I used it to run Skyrim and Trackmania and Half life. I didn't know what variant in it but I had a jolly good time using it.
    Also, Budget builds, if You can get your hand on that laptop. I'd suggest you keep an eye on temps. It's a capable laptop, but it has some overheating issues.

  • @GewelReal
    @GewelReal 4 года назад

    Hey, can you describe the cooler? Is it metal or just plastic that looks like "scratched" aluminum?

  • @I430VX
    @I430VX 4 года назад

    I bought a PCI 8400gs (Rev. 3, GT218, 512MB DDR3) for my Compaq Deskpro EN not too long ago. It works really well in that system. It was basically the fastest PCI card i could find that both didn't cost a fortune and also was available to even buy. It is most weird seeing a Pentium III system running the Windows Aero feature, but here we are. It is a passively cooled model, but i stuck a fan on there and wired it into the CPU fan connector. Unfortunately the SFF model I have didnt have AGP, thus the need for PCI. IIRC, the "full tower" Deskpro ENL is the one that has an AGP slot.

  • @she1by
    @she1by 4 года назад

    12:56 I appreciate the colour coordination

  • @RetroArcadeGuy
    @RetroArcadeGuy 4 года назад +35

    "The higher the numbers, the better"
    It's me or people didn't learn from the FX series, eh...?

    • @tomstech4390
      @tomstech4390 4 года назад

      Ignorance is bliss.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 4 года назад +1

      Or the Pentium 4

    • @Zestyclose-Big3127
      @Zestyclose-Big3127 4 года назад

      I mean, many of those events would've been concurrent with AMD's FX CPUs (wasn't exactly there for Nividia's FX) so...

  • @coccoborg
    @coccoborg 4 года назад

    I remember having an MXM one in my laptop and later replacing it with an 8600m 512MB, what a jump that was!

  • @eightmegsandconstantlyswap8862
    @eightmegsandconstantlyswap8862 4 года назад

    Good to see my selfie at 8:58.

  • @Howch125
    @Howch125 4 года назад

    I have one of these beasts, an Asus 512mb version. It was given to me for free by the local computer shop when they did an assembly for me and the card I gave them did not want to play ball. It has a blower design cooler and is the loudest card I have ever heard at idle!

  • @honkhonkler7732
    @honkhonkler7732 Год назад

    I bought one to put in an ancient '90s PC maximum upgrade project because there was a PCI version. Also have a slocket 370 adapter in it with a Tualatin 1.2Ghz Celeron and 768MB of RAM.

  • @ben7k
    @ben7k 4 года назад

    I had one of these. er... make that two, the first one stopped working. I only got them as my motherboard at the time only supported pcie gen 1 cards. Yeah I really didn't know what I was doing when I got that PC. I have no idea what versions of the card I owned though. I suspect it was an early revision given the pcie situation. Anyway, you live and learn. I still enjoyed the 4 years I spent with that PC.

  • @blinkroot8
    @blinkroot8 4 года назад

    I was like :o when the marble behind the card at 1:06 moved back

  • @Alex-tz1hu
    @Alex-tz1hu 4 года назад

    I had an 8400GS back in 2011. I can't remember much except that it had 1GB of VRAM, the shop assistant assured me that it would be a big improvement over my integrated i3 graphics, which it kinda was. I was only playing WoW and Starcraft BW. I remember running WoW (Wrath of the Lich King expansion) on 1280x1024 (basically monitor resolution) and everything on low. It used to pull around 40-50 FPS most of the times, going down to 20-30 in cities and raids (places with many players and effects). I had that GPU up to Cataclysm where I had to downscale the resolution to get an average of 30 FPS but it would stutter in cities. Even now I remember when I switch to a laptop that had an 840m (needed one for school) and running the game at medium-high details @ 1080p with around 60 fps and I was stunned how good WoW looked and ran.

  • @bighams69
    @bighams69 4 года назад

    How can I join your discord? I have not found any link to it in a long time :P

  • @CapriciousBibekk
    @CapriciousBibekk 3 года назад +1

    Got an inno 3d 1gb ddr3 8400gs rev3 myself, I was clueless as this was my 1st gpu purchase and the options I was given were, do you want a 1gb or 2gb graphics card

  • @steventechno
    @steventechno 3 года назад

    I have what may be a Rev 2 that was built by "Galaxy" that I got sometime at the end of 2008/early 2009. It was better than whatever iGPU I had before, but still bottlenecked my Phenom 9750 I had in my OG build. That doesn't mean I didn't play games, which I did. The poor thing struggled to get a barely playable 720p experience in most games I played in 2009, such as Gmod, TS3, Prototype and a few others.
    I have it on a shelf as I made invaluable memories with it. not to mention it was part of my first build. Even though i'll never use it again, It's nice to still have something from my first ever build from late high school days, ya know?

  • @BladeTrain3r
    @BladeTrain3r 4 года назад

    You know I've got a office boxe (4590 i5 + 16G DDR3) and a Prescott box that needs some TLC lying around.
    Also a couple GT210s (1GB and 512MB variant), an 8400GS, and for some reason like 6 different variants of the Radeon 9200, PCI-E and AGP. Also an FX5200. And a PCI TNT2 which I might try and get going for the hell of it, but it won't run anything needing so much as hardware lighting.
    I think I'm gonna do some benchmarking for the hell of it.
    Thanks for giving me a lockdown project idea.

  • @barbunicolae2711
    @barbunicolae2711 4 года назад +1

    This paired with Celeron D, what a perfectly balanced system it could be!
    ATI/AMD has their own version, the Radeon HD 5450/6230/7350/8350 or R5 220, all on the same architecture and the same specs with loads of memory type, capacity or bandwidth combinations.

    • @Petar321_GT
      @Petar321_GT 4 года назад

      I think a c2d would do

    • @exaltedb
      @exaltedb 4 года назад

      Barbu Nicolae I can actually pull that system off as I own both

  • @Sprier
    @Sprier 3 года назад

    The sim city music makes me want to download it again lol!

  • @FubarMike
    @FubarMike 4 года назад

    I had to use this card when my gtx 950 died a while back in my newer ryzen system as it didn't have integrated gfx. Mine is the 2007 version which but became passive cooled due to the fan seizing up at some point. It got me through 2 weeks like a champ

  • @aerohk
    @aerohk 4 года назад +3

    Oh I remember this thing. It was a cool card.

  • @mgDuckyyy
    @mgDuckyyy 4 года назад +2

    Got one of these for Christmas. Asked for the beastly 8600GT But my dad thought the 8400 would suffice.
    Battlefield 2142 at minimum settings and under 30fps. 2008 was a bad year for me :(

    • @GinsengStrip-wt8bl
      @GinsengStrip-wt8bl 3 года назад

      Learned that hard way too in 2008. When your parents think "it will suffice" that means it won't do the job. Piece of junk.

  • @drkRoss89
    @drkRoss89 4 года назад +6

    I remembered having this card when I bought a Packard Bell with a C2D E4500, 2GB of RAM with this abomination inside it.
    How that thing managed to run Team Fortress 2 amazes me. Having said that, I replaced it soon after that with a 9600GT (DDR 2) and was a significant improvement.

  • @dbozan99
    @dbozan99 4 года назад +1

    Did you know that the 2004 version of the HL2 Engine supports DirectX 6? Later versions limited it to 7, then 8, as minimums IIRC. Launch the game with the "+mat_dxlevel 60" parameter to force DX 6, 70 for DX 7, etc. Check out the Valve developer wiki titled "DirectX Versions" for more info about the different features supported in each version.

  • @bertnijhof5413
    @bertnijhof5413 4 года назад

    I used the 8400GS from 2015 till May 2019. I had version 3 with the G218, 16 CUDA cores and 1GB :) I bought it locally in Santiago de los Caballeros. In the end its 1" fan stopped working and the temps did go up to 80°C for the normal display adapter stuff. It did even play some Linux games, like SuperTuxKart and Extreme Tux Racer.
    But those games also run in a Virtualbox Virtual Machine (VM) with 3D acceleration enabled on my new desktop. On my 2200G Host the VM generates a GPU load between 35% and 75% by a vram size of ~680 MB. The display is 1680 x 1050 at 60Hz.

  • @rafee9442
    @rafee9442 4 года назад +2

    I had the Quadro cousin of that card, the FX 370

  • @GutoCardozo22
    @GutoCardozo22 4 года назад

    I had one back in 2009, and I must say it was an interesting experience. It could run some games, but the only game I remember was Prototype, and it run in a rather cinematic way. The "bad pirated copy of a movie straight from a camera recorder compressed to all hell" kinda cinematic.

  • @jeyendeoso
    @jeyendeoso 4 года назад +2

    I have an old 8400gs here, its also a Palit card, although i think its a 1st gen (G84, 80nm), 512mb DDR2.
    The heatsink and fan, even the fan connector is very similar to the one you have. But mine is a full height card, green pcb.
    How i got this card? very simple, they just sell it to customers who have no idea what they're buying. Young me buying my 2nd pc (around 2008) just saw that it had a discrete gpu, Nvidia, thats gotta be ok, right? Oh how i was very wrong. But since i was coming out of an ancient computer , the difference was night and day.I remember it could run half life 2 low 720p at something like 30fps, and one of my favorite games, Bioshock, it really struggled. But i was mostly playing games from that era and before, such as half life 1 and counterstrike 1.6.Then after 1 year or so, a frend of mine sold his 8600gt gddr3 and wow, the difference once again was night and day.
    I still have the little thing, feel kinda bad throwing it away. I have been playing with some old hardware recently, and put together an old pc with random parts that i have laying around (phenom II x3, 4gb ddr2 ram, 8400gs) and the thing can run Valley benchmark at the lowest setting and 720p at a whopping 3.8fps (average), 2.6fps (min) and 6fps (max).Overclocking it to 600mhz, maxing out the sliders in Afterburner, yelds in Valley: 4.3 avg fps, 2.9 min fps, 7 max fps.I would like to test it with more games, but I havent had the time and patience to download and install more things in it.

  • @RowanBird779
    @RowanBird779 Год назад

    I love how this thing has a bigger fan than my 8600GT

  • @bibhuranjannath3418
    @bibhuranjannath3418 4 года назад +17

    There was an 1GB variant of this if I'm not mistaken.

    • @firenado4295
      @firenado4295 4 года назад +4

      nvidia's way of saying "we can't have dirty garbage can we"

    • @letto18
      @letto18 4 года назад +3

      GT210

    • @Kykof
      @Kykof 4 года назад +6

      www.alza.cz/gainward-8400gs-1gb-ddr3-d201814.htm sorry its in czech but u can clearly see that there is 1gb vram

    • @naoyanaraharjo4693
      @naoyanaraharjo4693 4 года назад

      @@letto18 have one replaced it

    • @esthergennn
      @esthergennn 4 года назад +2

      Yep! I had a passively cooled Asus model with 1GB DDR3 memory. It was a turd. I didn't know any better back then. I learned. My next card was a HD 6970 lol

  • @EATABAGOFHELL
    @EATABAGOFHELL 4 года назад

    Interesting video. I found a 512mb PCI version of this card at a thrift shop a couple weeks back. Not PCIe, _conventional_ PCI. The 33mhz kind from dinosaur days. Stuck it in my 166mhz Pentium 1. Seems to work okay, although i'm not really sure how to check which chip it's got since GPU-Z won't run in dos.

  • @BrodyMcBain
    @BrodyMcBain 4 года назад

    Did you try strategic map view on civ5?

  • @Nimta
    @Nimta 4 года назад +2

    Hang on, I think I recognize that card by appearance...
    Could that card from 10 years ago have been an 8400GS?
    Sounds about right, even from the very short amount of time that I had it and knew what I was looking at during posting

  • @forevercomputing
    @forevercomputing 4 года назад

    If you drop the amount of cores and keep everything the same speed, etc. Is it still and 8400GS?

  • @Gcrowan
    @Gcrowan 4 года назад

    I had a friend who played games on a 8400GS with me, most games that didn't just crash immediately were in that 12-16fps sweet spot.

  • @Alpine_flo92002
    @Alpine_flo92002 4 года назад

    Oi Is there a way to get on his discord. Is it even still up?

  • @Spikehead777
    @Spikehead777 4 года назад

    My first PC back in 2008 was an HP and I bought a PNY 8400 GS (I don't know the exact specs off hand) to give it a discrete graphics card in it instead of the stock Intel HD iGPU. For the most part, it gave me the ability to play World of Warcraft and a few other games with double digit framerates for the first time (my parents' PC was an even older Dell that couldn't support discrete graphics), but it was a few years later when I noticed I was getting some exceedingly hot temperatures with the card and I saw the heatsink and fan was wobbling on the GPU itself. I binned the card and got a new Galaxy GT240 and a more powerful PSU about a week later.
    I still have the old PNY 8400 GS in a drawer somewhere, but I have no use for it.

  • @idkwhattonamethisyoutubeac4737
    @idkwhattonamethisyoutubeac4737 3 года назад

    how did you get 240p resolution on dolphin?

  • @androidcow1234
    @androidcow1234 4 года назад

    I grew up using one of these, now I’m curious to go pop it in a system and see what revision it is

  • @Litepaw
    @Litepaw 4 года назад +1

    Can someone help me with a budget build question?
    I have a huge bottleneck somewhere, and i've been suspecting the cpu.
    So yeah, i have a pc that i bought last year from a friend for about 200€.
    It has a 6gb geforce 1060, i5 4460 + Asus B85M-G with 16gb of somewhat fast ddr3.
    It still holds up decently well, but some modern games stutter a bit.
    Is there a quick fix or an upgrade i can do? (for example an i7 from that gen? 4770/4790?) or do i have to save up and invest in a new motherboard, memory, and cpu?
    Thanks ❤️

    • @Litepaw
      @Litepaw 4 года назад

      Also dare i even ask, did i get ripped off?
      From what i was told, and investigated myself, most of the price came from the GPU (around 150 used over here)

  • @TechITMobile
    @TechITMobile 4 года назад

    Can you add for future test VRAM GPU usage in Afterburner?

  • @tHeWasTeDYouTh
    @tHeWasTeDYouTh 4 года назад +1

    I have a Radeon HD 5500 OEM on my HP PC from 2009-10. pretty good card to play old games. played Half LIfe 1,2 and Doom 3 all last week since I have been stuck at home. For some reason I have a thing for these old cheap OEM cards.........are they still a thing?? Is there a Geforce 1650 OEM variant?

    • @GPULibrary
      @GPULibrary 4 года назад

      There are many oem cards.
      HD 8990, Nvidia 300 series, gtx 555 was for alienware.
      I only know a few and own them but I do have the same joy on using old hardware like you. :)

  • @Kalomoises
    @Kalomoises 4 года назад

    That was my firts gpu. Love you rvideos!!

  • @BanControl
    @BanControl 4 года назад

    I used to have this in one of my first gaming rigs with a pentium 4. i had a 512mb version, and it actually didnt do so bad for the games of the time

  • @aliceosako792
    @aliceosako792 4 года назад

    I know that the £35-50 sale prices you sometimes find it at are a bit high for you :-) , especially on an SBC that came out a year ago, but do you intend to take a look at the Atomic Pi x86?

  • @miguelque9102
    @miguelque9102 4 года назад

    The very first revision of 8400GS did support GDDR3, from Zotac and a few other manufacturers that were crazy enough.

  • @BamaChad-W4CHD
    @BamaChad-W4CHD 4 года назад

    Interesting. I still have my evga 8400gs. Box and all. It was my first pcie graphics card. Mine always surprised me on how well it ran. I'm going to have to get it out of the closet and see what revision I have.

  • @alking7644
    @alking7644 2 года назад

    where do u buy ur cards?

  • @bryanleiporsado6845
    @bryanleiporsado6845 10 месяцев назад

    This graphics card was in my first ever computer from way back.
    Core 2 Duo (I couldn't remember the exact model)
    single 512mb of ddr2 ram
    8400gs with the same specs in the video
    parents bought it for I think it was around 400usd to 450usd in current price. (as a computer set, with table and peripherals)
    could run gta san andreas happily, I remembered that I also ran Battlefield 2 and it was a great experience, definitely a childhood nostalgia for me.

  • @jdangberg
    @jdangberg Год назад

    Had one of these as well. The 2nd revision. only thing good about it, and why I purchased it: full hardware acceleration for youtube video. allowed me to watch youtube fullscreen with an amd sempro LE-1100. Paid something like $17 new for it on a black friday sale in 2007 or 2008 on newegg. decent HTPC card as well. that's all.

  • @weak1ings
    @weak1ings 4 года назад +1

    I used this card for gaming for 3-4 years of my life growing up then I got a MASSIVE UPGRADE to a GT 520. It literally doubled my framerate!

  • @natea4158
    @natea4158 Год назад +1

    fun how this was just recommended to me again. i still see my comment from 2 years ago when it was then, and my comment from 6 months ago when it was then, heh...

  • @bluescluessuperagent
    @bluescluessuperagent 4 года назад

    honestly like the first tech video I've seen that actually distinguishes ddr3 and gdrr3
    heck, alot of the time even the the retailor ads do a bad job, or the box, or the sticker on the card.
    I think I was just watching a RandomGaminginHD video where he's literally talking about how he has the GDDR3 version (which is showing up when using any program to read hardware) but the box literally says ddr3
    like you had one job to do

  • @mechanicalpants
    @mechanicalpants 4 года назад

    Please do a review of the Nvidia GT710, this is another low profile, low power card that still sells new and comes in multiple specs. I would really like to see you test the GDDR5 version vs the GDDR3, that would be very interesting.

    • @bluescluessuperagent
      @bluescluessuperagent 4 года назад

      the 710 doesn't come in a gddr3 variant, it's a ddr3 variant. Nvidia hasn't made a gddr3 card since the 400 series

  • @montani_4477
    @montani_4477 4 года назад

    had one of these back in around maybe 2008/2009 and man I remember having one thinking it was the best card out there. Not ganna lie it was a pretty decent card back then and can probably still do a few things today in wayyy older titles but it is a pretty nostalgic card for me no matter what.

    • @GinsengStrip-wt8bl
      @GinsengStrip-wt8bl 3 года назад

      Had it in same years back then. Was very angry being mislead by the seller, with the same price I paid for my build, my friend got a PC with 9600GT on board. That potato piece of shit had less than half FPS 9600GT could get in any game.

  • @Mr64Gamecubefan
    @Mr64Gamecubefan 4 года назад

    What 8s better the integrated graphics of the g2030 or using the 8400 gs?

    • @Polygraph2131
      @Polygraph2131 3 года назад

      the integrated graphics in that cpu would destroy that card. im not even kidding thats how bad it is

  • @avocatdelamusique9778
    @avocatdelamusique9778 4 года назад +4

    That box though... How wrong it looks with what you're getting in the box 😂😂😂😂