more power too, my mt07 is clunky but i tell you i love it. But its a type of love where you have to make compromises. Where the honda is going to be a smoother ride but i cant say for sure
If the next MT 07 doesn’t have inverted forks I’ll jump off a bridge. Put an extra $300 on the tag and make everyone happy. It’s not like they can’t use parts from other MTs, just do it. And clean up some of the cheap plastic stuff, it’s so close to being a nicer bike but they’re cutting some corners for sure to keep at as cheap as possible.
These two motorcycles shouldn't even be in the same sentence. They're very different and attract very different buyers. Both of these motorcycles are absolutely very cool machines, but these motorcycles have zero relation to each other. Stop comparing them together. The CB650R is clearly in its own league and has zero competition so stop comparing it to anything else.
I have tried both when i am working on my licence and i prefer the mt-07 any time the weight destribution of the MT feels better easier to ride and also alot easier to turn around on and the sound is also better.
The mt07 is definitely the better bike to learn on but only for its lighter weight and tighter turning circle but the Honda is just a better bike overall, if you only ride inner city then the mt07 is perfect but the Honda is still better, less gear changes and if you know how to lean a bike it's just as good in traffic and the suspension is way ahead of the mt07 and it's noticeably faster, sound is subjective and different sounds can be had with the choice of exhaust you choose, styling is subjective too but when sat next to each other the mt07 really looks cheap regardless if you prefer the mt07 the Honda outshines it with its premium build quality, you will learn more on the CB/CBR because it corners a hell of a lot better than the MT, the mt09 is a brave choice for a first bike but a sensible person could be fine.
Myself going for bike probably next year and aiming on Honda cb650r 2023 model and i been leaning hard on mt-07 but I'm middle age man "almost" so i want a bike i can keep after license and just enjoy the bike and i find mt07 may and may not be for to long after license it has a nice push in low speed up till 140 then it's start to slow plus i heard the suppension is kinda bad and it has some "known faults" while Honda in those areas are up to quality. Mt-07 has far better sound like a offroad/Harley sound and i had sportster 883 when i was younger so that sound is in my heart haha.. so cb650 is not the most perfect sound for my ears but it sounds decent with aftermarket compare to other bikes that i looked at. But cb650r just look premium and are premium in many sections. Plus what i know the 2023 model does 0-100 in 3,1-3,4 seconds depends on rider which is good enough for me and has a decent top km/h. Both MT serie and CBR serie look good it's all about those minor details and long run details that concern for me. Both have good prices too for what you get. 👍🏻
I'll take the 650. 4 banger, better looking, better suspension, better brakes, and more power. I know, the MT has the almighty cross plane, but who cares. Take a 4 over a twin anyday, That's why I have a Z900. Same price as CB and more of everything good. Fantastic job on video. You work too hard. LOL.
The only 2 cylinder I'll ever buy again is a Superhawk. That bike had character and got attention everywhere I went. I put 30000 miles on it before I sold it.
as a +5 years owner of a MT07, my bigger complains are the awfully rough shifting in lower gears (I tried several oil brands with little improvement) and the cheapo suspensions. Other than that, is a sweet bike for under 8k€.
@@ImNotADeeJay 10W-40 SYNTHETIC METRIC MOTORCYCLE OIL from amsoil. I also used red line but they are pretty expensive but definitely some really good oil. As of now I just use maxima pro plus in my bikes. All three of these oils have been better than mobil one or any other big brand I tried. Ester base synthetics just tend to give me really good results.
"A very reliable engine! a well maintained MT07 can easily last 50 thousand Kilometers!" What the F? 50k? Is that all? Most bikes here in Cyprus second hand are selling with 50k mileage! That's 31 thousand miles! average usage 10k a year in UK using for work and pleasure makes it 3 years usage? Your facts are questionable to say the least!
The xsr700 and the mt07 are the same bike, this isn't about styling it's about performance and what each come equipped as standard, so if it's an xsr700 or mt07 it's still the exact same comparison.
Many complains about Mt07 suspension, and recommend replacing it. I own CBR650R. Very happy, but I should go for CB650R for longer riding comfort around my town.
True, I have a MT09 Sp and that bikes suspension is very good. Took a MT07 as a hire bike on a service and the suspension felt like a pogo stick in comparison.
Can compare engines in this two bikes and give the win to mt 07. They are completelly different bikes. One has 2 cylinder the other has 4. Ofc mt its going to be more torquey at low rpms, but cb has more HP. Makes no sense to compare them, different engine and different HP. For me CB wins by far. Much solid bike even if you need to rev it a bit to get the whole out of it
Jag har testat båda och jag kan bara säga att CB650R inte alls är värd det priset. Den är ryckig och känns väldigt väldigt billig jämfört med till exempel Z650 eller Yamahaa MT07. Plus väldigt kraftsvag eftersom den är tung. Inte konstigt att de sätter större bromsar. Så jämförelsen om bromsar ger inte Hondan fler poäng på grund av större bromsar. The engine gives 95HP at 12000rpm thats like less than 10% of the normal usage if you are not working like a racer on the track
@@wurmer23 Your answer makes no sense, here we are talkin' about same displacement....can you understand that? I doubt,there's a golden rule "if you have nothing to say..stay silent"
Then you yourself is a nonsense too. The only motorcycle with the same displacement and engine configuration is also from honda, the cbr650r. Now then tell me who has no sense? Find me another brand with the same displacement and engine config as that of cb650r. 😁😁😁😘😘😘😘😛😛😛😛😜😜😜😜🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@wurmer23 To dissipate the fog in your mind...the point is "same displacement/more cylinder fractioning= more performance,it's a Physics law! And you are going astray with improbable reasoning, it's a simple concept....but probably you are hopeless 😂
@@glitterfart2253 I do have few friends travel 200km daily... after 5 year still running fine with normal maintenance... make sure you are stick with the recommended maintenance then you will able to hit 150k km mark
@@glitterfart2253 whatever you think. I have proof in my community.. no engine replacement at all. Just VC and normal service. Replace timing chain, fuel coil, and etc only. I used own Kawasaki KR150 which made in 1990 and the bike has go over 200k km and 8 owner. The engine crankcase is still original even crankshaft. I not sure why you think modern bike cant last 150k km but an 1990 bike last until 200k km until i sold the bike. Maybe your country has issue to servicing your bike? Most bike in asian are running in high millage as we not rich like others can change our bike every few year.
Comparing an MT-07 to a CB650R, a 660 Trident, an SV650, or any other bike in it's class is completely pointless to me. The Yamaha is just too unbearably ugly to own. If that was all in the world left to buy and ride I'd give up and drive a Kia instead. 😂 On the other hand, the CB650R looks pretty good! 👋
I have a cb650 R and it is absolutely amazing to drive, would recommend it to anyone!
i love the engine but i hate the design that's why i go for continental gt 650
what about tall people, I am 191cm tall?
@@M.Tuncer I'm 1.90m on a CB650R 2021 model, I'm fine ! You might wanna try it out before, to be sure you're confortable
@@maulananurmohamadbinmohama2852crazy 💀
Cb650r 🔥🔥🔥. I like 4 cylinder sound 😊😋😋😋
more power too, my mt07 is clunky but i tell you i love it. But its a type of love where you have to make compromises. Where the honda is going to be a smoother ride but i cant say for sure
I just got my first bike the cbr650r and love it
@@Gr33kChief the low rpm growl that the MT07 has is so good.
Yes, this sound is extremely loudly
Pasaran
Love the detail, animation and quality of these vids. Sure to help many to make the right choice of bike for them. 👍👍
Yamaha needs to update the MT07 and add upside down suspension and better brakes, it’s 2022 not 1990, until that I’ll take the Honda any day.
Don't forget the slipper clutch
The new mt-07 got an upgrade on the front brakes. And it is 2k cheaper. Ofcourse it has less than the Honda.
@@glitterfart2253 In Mexico the Honda is cheaper for 2k
@@martinalejandromarquezcanc3330 Yes but 95% of us dont live there...
Even my MT15 comes equipped with USD fork and slipper clutch lmao
mt-07 2024 - 9800$, cb650r - 9200$. which one should I choose? my height is 189 cm. my last bike was z400
Own a mt07 , cant complain so far
Newbie cb650r
Long time rider seeking for fun mt07
If the next MT 07 doesn’t have inverted forks I’ll jump off a bridge. Put an extra $300 on the tag and make everyone happy. It’s not like they can’t use parts from other MTs, just do it. And clean up some of the cheap plastic stuff, it’s so close to being a nicer bike but they’re cutting some corners for sure to keep at as cheap as possible.
I owned a VT500 Honda. A 100 mph was fast to me. 1985
My 1996 Sportster will still run 95 mph. Of course i don’t run that fast but usually cruise at 70mph. Just tires n oil changes. i’m 77. 😅
These two motorcycles shouldn't even be in the same sentence. They're very different and attract very different buyers. Both of these motorcycles are absolutely very cool machines, but these motorcycles have zero relation to each other. Stop comparing them together. The CB650R is clearly in its own league and has zero competition so stop comparing it to anything else.
Just bought a cb650r yesterday. Was set on the mt07 before my dealer suddenly and randomly got a brand new one in. Was a no brainer for me.
Good choice.
more fun riding mt07, but for 4 cylinders geek like me cb650r forever
I have tried both when i am working on my licence and i prefer the mt-07 any time the weight destribution of the MT feels better easier to ride and also alot easier to turn around on and the sound is also better.
Try riding both these bikes once you have had someone setup the bike to suit you
@@stevenhanson5782 Well i will be getting a mt-07 or 09 thats for sure.
The mt07 is definitely the better bike to learn on but only for its lighter weight and tighter turning circle but the Honda is just a better bike overall, if you only ride inner city then the mt07 is perfect but the Honda is still better, less gear changes and if you know how to lean a bike it's just as good in traffic and the suspension is way ahead of the mt07 and it's noticeably faster, sound is subjective and different sounds can be had with the choice of exhaust you choose, styling is subjective too but when sat next to each other the mt07 really looks cheap regardless if you prefer the mt07 the Honda outshines it with its premium build quality, you will learn more on the CB/CBR because it corners a hell of a lot better than the MT, the mt09 is a brave choice for a first bike but a sensible person could be fine.
Myself going for bike probably next year and aiming on Honda cb650r 2023 model and i been leaning hard on mt-07 but I'm middle age man "almost" so i want a bike i can keep after license and just enjoy the bike and i find mt07 may and may not be for to long after license it has a nice push in low speed up till 140 then it's start to slow plus i heard the suppension is kinda bad and it has some "known faults" while Honda in those areas are up to quality.
Mt-07 has far better sound like a offroad/Harley sound and i had sportster 883 when i was younger so that sound is in my heart haha.. so cb650 is not the most perfect sound for my ears but it sounds decent with aftermarket compare to other bikes that i looked at.
But cb650r just look premium and are premium in many sections. Plus what i know the 2023 model does 0-100 in 3,1-3,4 seconds depends on rider which is good enough for me and has a decent top km/h.
Both MT serie and CBR serie look good it's all about those minor details and long run details that concern for me.
Both have good prices too for what you get. 👍🏻
@@andreasbjorklund4524mt 09 when you are learning, stupid af
This animations and sound bring me back to Red Alert 2...
If you wait for CB to get all the ponies, MT-07 will win the race twice.
I'll take the 650. 4 banger, better looking, better suspension, better brakes, and more power. I know, the MT has the almighty cross plane, but who cares. Take a 4 over a twin anyday, That's why I have a Z900. Same price as CB and more of everything good. Fantastic job on video. You work too hard. LOL.
The only 2 cylinder I'll ever buy again is a Superhawk. That bike had character and got attention everywhere I went. I put 30000 miles on it before I sold it.
SG. Plz Yamaha Tenere 700(stock,rally edition end world rally) vs enduro all bikes
CB650R all day long! 👍👍
King's from japan,all the japanese bike's are fantastice;chasis power and riderabilty is really great but in the diffrent way's...
Seriously, amazing job with these videos! Thank you!
as a +5 years owner of a MT07, my bigger complains are the awfully rough shifting in lower gears (I tried several oil brands with little improvement) and the cheapo suspensions. Other than that, is a sweet bike for under 8k€.
My MT-07 was clunky but when I when to amsoil and it was pretty smooth or as smooth as it ever will be. lol
@@HifeMan specifically, what amsoil did you use?
@@ImNotADeeJay 10W-40 SYNTHETIC METRIC MOTORCYCLE OIL from amsoil. I also used red line but they are pretty expensive but definitely some really good oil. As of now I just use maxima pro plus in my bikes. All three of these oils have been better than mobil one or any other big brand I tried. Ester base synthetics just tend to give me really good results.
Exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for this quality video!
Only cb 650r the beast
The pleasure of driving a four cylinder is incomparable! Four cylinders is four cylinders ! The animation is superb !
The GSXS750 and Z900 rule this class IMO.
How do you make these awesome graphics!? So epic!
Cb 650 R
The price of the Honda puts it into the MT09 price range. The MT09 wins hands down over the CB650
In México it is more expensiv the MT-07, and the Honda is cheaper.
In México the MT cost $11,200 USD and the Honda cost $10,100 USD (whit taxes).
Ya le subieron crack. Ahora la Mt 07 está en 239 k
Great video ! Can you do Yamaha Tracer 7 vs other sport touring motorcycles ?
Start saving money then 😎💰
cb650r👍JAPANI like this bike
Dude just seen this channel and for not having any talk and just animation it’s crazy good
3:46 nice sound
"A very reliable engine! a well maintained MT07 can easily last 50 thousand Kilometers!" What the F? 50k? Is that all? Most bikes here in Cyprus second hand are selling with 50k mileage! That's 31 thousand miles! average usage 10k a year in UK using for work and pleasure makes it 3 years usage? Your facts are questionable to say the least!
What an Amazing video. Thanks a lot.
Could you make a 300cc segment comparison?
This is not an accurate comparison. That would be an XSR700 and CB650R.
The xsr700 and the mt07 are the same bike, this isn't about styling it's about performance and what each come equipped as standard, so if it's an xsr700 or mt07 it's still the exact same comparison.
only master of torque 07
No,master of torque because MT is lighter than competitor and only 2 cylinder also still conventional telescopic fork makes MT-07 very agility
amazing animation, good job 👍👍
Many complains about Mt07 suspension, and recommend replacing it. I own CBR650R. Very happy, but I should go for CB650R for longer riding comfort around my town.
True, I have a MT09 Sp and that bikes suspension is very good. Took a MT07 as a hire bike on a service and the suspension felt like a pogo stick in comparison.
The MT07 suspension woes are easily fixed. The later models are closer than many realize.
@@montymoore8233 heavier oil and cut the preload spacers 10mm. Worked great on mine.
On the 2022 MT-07, literally nothing wrong with the suspension
@@Kingus_Dingus sure ok
should include Trident 660
In the US, Yamaha is so much cheaper. In Mexico its much more expensive than Honda.
Why yamaha bikes in mexico are so expensive?, some years ago I read MT 03 was expensive than a Duke 390 in mexico.
Wish trident 660 was on this list
The Honda is above 10000$
Can compare engines in this two bikes and give the win to mt 07. They are completelly different bikes. One has 2 cylinder the other has 4. Ofc mt its going to be more torquey at low rpms, but cb has more HP. Makes no sense to compare them, different engine and different HP.
For me CB wins by far. Much solid bike even if you need to rev it a bit to get the whole out of it
Ducati monster 937 please , Class 900cc naked bike thanks
Love yamaha. Great handling 👏
Justru handling honda lebih baik pakai USD teleskopik meskipun lebih berat tapi masih lebih bertenaga CB650R Khas inline 4 silinder flatplane 🔥
This video is so amazing!
Cb650❤️
Jag har testat båda och jag kan bara säga att CB650R inte alls är värd det priset. Den är ryckig och känns väldigt väldigt billig jämfört med till exempel Z650 eller Yamahaa MT07. Plus väldigt kraftsvag eftersom den är tung. Inte konstigt att de sätter större bromsar. Så jämförelsen om bromsar ger inte Hondan fler poäng på grund av större bromsar. The engine gives 95HP at 12000rpm thats like less than 10% of the normal usage if you are not working like a racer on the track
Provkörde båda. Mt07 är mycket roligare för mig.
are both bikes using Euro 5 compliant Engines?
Can you do Honda cb 650 r vs Kawasaki z900?
Cb 650 vs xsr 900
Here in the Philippines the mt-07 is much more expensive than the cbr
Fo(u)r(cycles)ever CB650R!
Zontes zt 125-u vs Ktm Duke 125?
Will better necessary to compare the Nm vs Rom at the same data, as well as the Ps vs Rpm
Very good presentation for comparision of two motorcycles, easy to understand. Thank you.
can you make CBR 250 r with cf moto 250 sr?
someone forgot Trident 660...
Benelli 752S vs Yamaha MT-07
Great video and effects
this is an awesome review
The best channel for motorcycle comparison
when would i be able to buy a 2022 cb650r?
Keep up the good work
Pay a little more for a street triple R
Comparing a four inline with a two inline it's a bit "unfair" in terms of performance 😉
it will be more unfair if you compare a 650cc inline 4 to a 900cc inline 4.😅
@@wurmer23 Your answer makes no sense, here we are talkin' about same displacement....can you understand that? I doubt,there's a golden rule "if you have nothing to say..stay silent"
Then you yourself is a nonsense too. The only motorcycle with the same displacement and engine configuration is also from honda, the cbr650r. Now then tell me who has no sense?
Find me another brand with the same displacement and engine config as that of cb650r.
😁😁😁😘😘😘😘😛😛😛😛😜😜😜😜🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@wurmer23 Do you drink bad liquours perhaps? You don't seem to understand even simple things...bye. 😂
@@wurmer23 To dissipate the fog in your mind...the point is "same displacement/more cylinder fractioning= more performance,it's a Physics law! And you are going astray with improbable reasoning, it's a simple concept....but probably you are hopeless 😂
Can you do the cb650f and mt09
Trident 660 > CBR650R imo
cb650r for the win
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Fz sounds way better
Next Gsxr600 vs zx 6r vs R6 vs Cbr600rr
Russia 2022 fz1 2007 (10 000$)
Please make more video like this.
Mt 07 is wheelie toy
I love Yamaha ❤❤❤
This is really good comparison
Mt 07 for the engine. Cb650 for the looks and accessories
I prefer engine on Honda too imo
This video is great!
Keep up charts presentation!
good work!!!!!
Wowwwwww excelent video
Love the sound, but didn't hear for the departing Honda Sound, why!?
thank you
07 😍
that suzuki sv looks like ducati monster
It's plagiat from ducati monster 😅
This is what I asked. Thank you!
mt-07 HELL YEAH !!
Где русские
Sehr sehr schönes Video
You are a master editor.
Cb650R ❤️
easily last 50.000km isn't a selling point as most of the modern engine can last 150k km before major overhaul.
Its a bike not a car lol. A bike can't go 150k km
@@glitterfart2253 it can if you take good care of it
@@glitterfart2253 I do have few friends travel 200km daily... after 5 year still running fine with normal maintenance... make sure you are stick with the recommended maintenance then you will able to hit 150k km mark
@@shyan5886 no u wont. not with a engine replacement. Motorcycle engines are not made to go 150k km
@@glitterfart2253 whatever you think. I have proof in my community.. no engine replacement at all. Just VC and normal service. Replace timing chain, fuel coil, and etc only. I used own Kawasaki KR150 which made in 1990 and the bike has go over 200k km and 8 owner. The engine crankcase is still original even crankshaft. I not sure why you think modern bike cant last 150k km but an 1990 bike last until 200k km until i sold the bike. Maybe your country has issue to servicing your bike? Most bike in asian are running in high millage as we not rich like others can change our bike every few year.
mt07 👍
Comparing an MT-07 to a CB650R, a 660 Trident, an SV650, or any other bike in it's class is completely pointless to me. The Yamaha is just too unbearably ugly to own. If that was all in the world left to buy and ride I'd give up and drive a Kia instead. 😂
On the other hand, the CB650R looks pretty good! 👋