Dan Wells on Story Structure, part 3 of 5
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
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Dan Wells at Life, the Universe, and Everything, February 13, 2010.
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I wish he wouldn't talk so loud at the beginning. It's overpowering that sweet music.
For the win.
I was taking notes from the beginning filling in what applied to my story (drama, romance) with his epic fantasy examples, and then he goes to apply that to romance, which I already spent 20 minutes trying to do on my own, so it fit perfectly and it made me so happy, it was like a pazzle. very good video.
@fardawg - Yes, I'm "THE Howard Tayler." I'm glad you're enjoying Writing Excuses and Schlock Mercenary.
BTW, I'm not sure why your first comment got marked as spam. I wasn't here then.
@Fardawg While these do fit within the Hero's Journey, they can also be mapped onto Three Act Format, Five Act Format, and a simple set of Try-Fail cycles. Each of these structural models is useful in different ways, and each can be described in terms of the other.
Dan's 7-point system is especially useful because of the process he describes. Analysts love structure, but but writers need process for structure to work.
How do you apply it to the 5 Act Structure? I'm getting confused with the pinch 2 and the plot Turn 2.
Awesome work man, thanks for recording this. Your the bomb (or whatever)!
To whoever marked my comment as spam
Why was my comment marked as spam? I simply stated that all of the stories Dan used could fit within the heroes journey. I recommended "The writer's Journey" which has many examples from multiple genres. If you disagree with me then say so. Don't mark comments you don't agree with as spam.
I don't quite buy the analysis of the tragedy. It seems like the pinches should oppose the progression from hook to resolution, so in a tragedy, they should be brief moments of hope, of opportunities to avoid the final catastrophe. I haven't read Othello in a very long time, but I would expect the pinches to be something like "Othello resists believing the planted evidence" and "Desdemona protests her innocence" or something like that. Otherwise, there's no conflict in the structure, it's just an unobstructed path downward.
The Hero's Journey can be applied to all three of those stories. Read The Writer's Journey by Christopher Vogler.
12 years late but I would also suggest people read Joseph Campbell's The Hero with the Thousand Faces which popularised the hero's journey and which also shows the importance both metaphysical and literal of each of the stages of the journey. I believe Vogler even tells his readers to do so.
@htayler
I never said they didn't fit into other structures or that others weren't needed. I was simply pointing out that they do fit. I like Dan's structure and have used it. It is extremely helpful and helped me get past a roadblock in a short story I am writing.
Are you THE Howard Taylor? I just noticed your name. I love Writing Excuses and have all of the episodes on my MP3 player. I've listened to them multiple times. It has helped me a lot with my writing.
1:18 The hero
Well, I was going to watch Othello . . .
what does "heroe becomes a role" mean?
@htayler
By the way. I'm digging Schlock Mercenary.
I want to go at this school XD
I don't get the woman Narrator joke
The dork factor is strong in this one.
Uf, The music during the First moments in each video is The worst!
That music sucks buddy. It sounds like a cut scene from the Alan Wake video game.
Chaka Zulu read intro. I know I’m 5 years late haha