Balder Review Liseberg Intamin Pre-Fabricated Wooden Roller Coaster
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- An in depth look at one of only 4 Intamin pre-fabricated wooden coasters ever built.
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The fact you're still making reviews for European coasters makes me hope for a Katun review someday
I’d be very interested in hearing how Katun compares to other inverts.
@@eriklakeland3857 Katun is great. I would place right above Raptor and below Pyrenees
It’s on my to do list!
Katun review is coming!!
@@Paolo8772 Nemesis begs to differ
Taylor, can we please get a top 15 woodies list, its been YEARS.
YES! That would be great!
Ues
Top 15 worst roller coasters.
It makes me wonder why Liseberg went with Intamin to build such a small ride. I'm sure the price tag was much higher than a GCI would have been
Good point on the price tag. Definitely adds another layer to the “identity crisis” brought up in the video.
I migth be a idiot but did gci Even exist AT the time of balder construction?
@@chify3984 balder was in 2003, wildcat was in 1996, so they existed for 7 years at that point
Because GCI where a relatively new company and for Europe 120ft is quite big
Intamin is really good at making compact ride, I think it kinda makes sense because Intmain can pack anything into small spaces but your right Intamin prefabrs are expensive maybe they could of gone with Gravity Group because they make also very compact woodies sometimes but are a lot cheaper.
It sounds like Balder ran much differently for you than it did for me in September 2017. I rode it on a cooler day too.
All the airtime hills delivered sustained ejector airtime for me. They felt like the final hills on Expedition GeForce over and over again. I agree the layout is repetitive and if the airtime was weaker like you described on your visit, I probably wouldn't have liked the ride as much. Hopefully you just got a few bad rides on it!
I hope that’s the case, I really do! I don’t like giving coasters poor reviews and hope that next time I visit Liseberg, Balder runs a lot better!
that is the case i have bean to liseberg every year (not this year. and wen it is colder the ride is much bether for some reson. have evan riden it wen it was snowing that hurt
@@carlsorensen9422 Interesting. El Toro struggles a bit in the cold, especially early in the day.
Reviews we need: Timber Terror, Wodan, Prowler, Patriot, and Thunderation
Yes both patriots
Also behemoth
Can’t deny that it is not the most intense ride. Especially for coaster enthusiasts or adults.
But when it was new we had nothing like it in Sweden and everybody was loving it.
I remember looking up at is as a kid and for the first time understood the magnitude of a wooden rollercoaster.
But I would say now with a kind of big evolution of coasters I’m Sweden, Balder is a perfect familythrill. The youngest will be terrified or overjoyed. The not the most daring ones will se it as really intense. The rest will have a good time
I'm looking forward to the day when Taylor rides T Express!
I just rode it recently. I believe everything Taylor doesn't like about Balder won't translate over to T-Express.
In short, T-Express is the better version of Balder by a mile.
when mr beast and coaster studios upload at the same time
They should do a collab one day.
Mr Beast was in one of ElToroRyan’s vlogs 😂 I believe it was the SFFT one!?
@@AirtimeProductions Really!?!?
What's the link?
@@nickbaca6528 ruclips.net/video/i2UvM6JLNDs/видео.html
Another amazing review Taylor! You should do more ranking videos but like have it an every year tradition, like top 10 wooden coasters, airtime moments, etc.
I agree, all of us love ur ranking videos Taylor!
It's a bit tamer because it was designed to be reminiscent of the scenic railway it replaced. There's nothing wrong with it having less airtime than Helix and it's a good stepping stone which is a feature a lot of parks miss out on. To compare it to El Toro is justified because of the type but it clearly wasn't designed to be the same thing so it isn't exactly fair.
That is my FAVORITE woodencoaster ever!
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You are partially right. Balder was designed to be a family friendly half extreme ride. Maybe a little confusing for you but Liseberg aims heavily at families and not thrill seekers first. Balder have won several awards as the best wooden coaster in Europe, btw.
If THIS coaster has an identity crisis then I can't wait to see what he has to say about Divertical ! Because that ride has the exact same problem, but much worse.
That is an excellent point! Maybe I should review it...
@@CoasterStudios Wow, I sure as heck didn't expect that! Guess I have something else to really look forward to!
@@CoasterStudios u should!
Their is a reason why wildfire is on the end card and not balder
Hi Great American Coasters, I love ur videos!
@@nickbaca6528 Thank You!
@@GreatAmericanCoaster OMG you actually responded!!!!!!!!!!!
ah yes everyone's end card needs to be a wooden coaster in Sweden - top rule of youtube
Balder is my all time favourite ride at Liseberg, and I'm happy that you shared your opinion on it, even though you didn't like it that much. 😊
Better than helix???
@@aperson4547 Helix i all ära, men Balder kommer ändå att vara bäst! 😊
@@ivankalami ok. Enligt min mening är helix bättre, men jag respekterar också din åsikt. De är båda fantastiska åkattraktioner!
Visited liseberg september 2019. I loved the rides on the backrow, first drop and that midcourse drop into the tunnel whip you put of your seat on a good day.
I read somewhere that balder has a minimum timelimit it may not reach something like 51sec laptime or they will close ist. So balder seems to vary a bit in its laptime.
For me i loved it, really special woodie - but i understand your suggestion for it beeing more a family ride
Always love your reviews! Keep it up
Lol I love how you made this review 2 years after you rode it 😂!
I know, it’s bad😂
Lol but u still haven’t done a behemoth review
Liseberg needs to remove Chad's signature from the structure.
Oh, please. Let’s not demonize. The man is getting help.
Yes
@@StamfordBridge ooo spill what’s the tea?
@Washington DC Coaster Fan I saw that video, what does Chad have to do with it??? Can you please explain
Hey Taylor!! I have a hard time with you giving Balder a 5, that seems kinda harsh. But, I can’t disagree with your reasoning. I kinda see how riding El Toro first would ruin that for you. To be honest, I have not ridden El Toro yet (was on the schedule for this past summer), but I have ridden the other 3 Intamin pre-fabs MANY times during multiple ERT sessions (Colossos 32, Balder 31, and T-Express over 50x)(2 multiple day visits to each park). I rode Colossos first, and it was incredible!! Over EVERY hill you’d end riding the upstop wheels until you slammed back down on the other side, creating (what we called) the Intamin fart. The buzz the ride made over each hill was undeniable!! And Yes, it is fairly intense! Your assessment of the airtime on Balder is fairly accurate (my opinion). The first time, I was surprised at the number of airtime hills, and that was quite enjoyable. Yeah, it’s not intense, but just became more and more fun each time I rode. (Yes, the steel crossbeam on the 4th drop can be touched with your hands. Won’t tell you how I know 😉 - OUCH!) But as you said, it becomes quite repetitive, but for me, didn’t detract from the “fun” factor.
Now, T-Express was a whole different ballgame!! Everland got exactly what they ordered - first 1/2 of El Toro, second 1/2 of Balder. The drop and surrounding valley are quite exceptional!! Steep, blistering fast, and pre-fab smooth!! The transition into the Balder section, and the rest of the layout, was a bit faster than Balder, giving those airtime moments a little more kick to them. Probably still my #1 wood coaster. Strangely, the second best coaster in the park at the time. Eagle Fortress being #1. EF would still be my #1 coaster of all time (out of 1000+) if it were still around today.
All that being said, of the 3 pre-fabs I would rank them
1. T-Express 9.2
2. Colossos 9.0 Big and fast, just a tad bit short as you slam into the brakes with a lot unutilized energy.
3. Balder 7.2 A lot of fun, descent airtime, but could be so much more (like twice around the layout instead of 3x)
I suspect that El Toro would be #1 for me on this list, when I get there (too much international travel over the years).
I do understand your reasoning, I just feel a 5 is kind of low.
Jeff
(BTW - next time you go to Knoebels, ride Phoenix in the 3rd row. As in 1.3! Not the very front (lame), not the very back(ok), but 1.3! VASTLY different animal in the airtime department!)
Thanks for your feedback! I hope to one day do T-Express, I think I would really enjoy it!
I like calling the "fart" more of a roar but thats just me
@jjmailmain Hate to break it to you but Colossos is not like that anymore. after the first hills, it runs way slower than before the retracking and only gives mild airtime. If you liked old Colossos though, you will absolutely love El Toro because it really is a denser, more extreme colossos with a way better second half.
PS: I agree that a 5/10 is a bit harsh for balder, even though all arguments are valid. I'd give it a 7 as well.
@@smuella Well that sucks!
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Thanks, Taylor. Good job describing what I've wondered while watch POV's. My biggest hope is that someone would purchase one of these again to keep them alive or maybe we'd see an updated version of the Intamin Pre-Fab. Looking at Cedar Point?
I’m kind of surprised about your thoughts you probably need to ride it more
Amazing review Taylor!!! How does Balder rank compared to the other coasters in the park?
I prefer Helix (obviously) and thought Lisebergbanan was okay, so probably second best. Valkyria wasn’t open for me so I can’t speak on how that ride is.
@@CoasterStudios Cool! (Thx so much for replying back👍😊☺️)
It’s about time you made this because of the fact you were in Europe 2 years ago
I know, sorry it took this long!
@@CoasterStudios ur a coaster god
When you hit Europe again, will you go back to Heide Park for Collossess?
I don’t think so. I’d love to ride it but there’s other parks I would put priority first.
Coaster Studios Colossos is the weakest pre fab imo
@@jojo_hendriks I’ve only been on Colossos for Intamin pre-fabs and got a bit disappointed since I didn’t get that sustained ejector in the back
@@iceblade019 it was stronger before the re track
@@CoasterStudios When do you plan to go to Europe again and which parks are on your to-do list?
I rode on Balder back in 2006, about a year after it opened. Coming from Norway, with our own "woodie" Thundercoaster, Balder did feel quite tame in comparison.
Taylor I’m not sure if this is already on your agenda but could you make a vide discussing the New S&S towers seats and what park could get them or just speak about your over all opinion on the concept?
I love Balder! Its not that tame I think, I rode it 7 times my last visit and it was snowing but it hauled. I saw your autograph lol
It seems like Intamin was more confident with the pacing of the ride by comparing it to a regular wooden coaster even though the prefab trains lose a lot more speed than even PTC trains. They did not think the pacing would crawl as much in the second half leading to it being more boring as the ride went on. This ride also harkens back to the Ride of Steel clones in there wired layout, with the first drop looking like a mini Hive Dive.
100th Like! Also I love your videos and look forward to all of your uploads. Keep up the great work!
Check out T-Express in Everland, South Korea.
It's a perfect combination of El toro and Balder.
Amazing layout and overall design
Have you done Galactica and Oblivion Reviews? If so I would love to see those :)
Clearly expectations and framing mean a lot to you. Kentucky Flyer got a 10/10 because you expected a family coaster and got a very good one. You came in viewing Balder as a smaller Intamin prefab and then expected a really great thrill coaster (perhaps a tamer smaller El Toro) and it didn't live up to those expectations and it got a 5/10. It makes me wonder how you'd rate this ride if you had ridden it without being told anything about it or even having seen the structure before getting on it.
yea
My second favorite coaster!!!
This is the best coaster that i have ridden
You're so lucky you got to Europe before the pandemic. I was planning on going this year -__-
To be fair, I was supposed to go to Europe twice this year. Neither of those visits actually happened.
You summed that up perfectly .. we were pretty underwhelmed with it after all the hype!
I know it's quite a big coaster ,but it did feel like a family ride.. I think the smoothness of it doesn't help either. If it had a rickety ,slightly rough ride like a traditional..it would help ... A LOT!
Finally! My balder review!
Finally! I was wondering about how you felt about this
Identity crisis is the funniest descriptions I’ve ever heard on a coaster review.
I Love Balder. I prefer it over Many woodies. All of my 3 rides where in the back of the Train, and boi did it exceed expectations. First Drop in the back is PHENOMENAL. Headchoppers + rapid ejector pull. The Hills all gave fantastic air, pretty strong. And I don't mind the repetitive Layout At all. With the re Tracking of Colossos, Balder is superior imo. Better Drop and airtime. And yes, Balder > Mystic Timbers. Balder is my Second Favorite Woodie at the Moment because it very much exceeded expectations.
Sounds silly but I've heard mid train is actually really good.
I rode mid train two days ago and my ass was out of the seat, more than it was in it. As some have claimed, I agree it’s one of the best coasters in Europe. Voted best in the world in 2003 and 2005.
I believe that mix of floater and ejector is called "Flojector" (got it from ElToroRyan)
I'm pretty sure one of the coasters that you didn't mind the repetitiveness on was Mystic Timbers if I were to guess? Or was it not necessarily repetitive?
I found this coaster to be more fun then helix, when we went on this earlier this year it literally flied. i know its been retracked and i dont know if that affected it because that ending was crazy
i thought i wasnt a big balder fan but i guess i have been outdone lol
I understand what you are saying. Personally I liked this coaster a lot more than any coaster in the park.Ill give it a 8/10. But it doesn't even compare to Wildfire tho
Not first but love the vids!
Your first actually
I would have liked to see more Pre Frabricated wooden coasters built. In theory it's a better idea in coaster construction (having everything done at the factory and just plugging it in on site).
And as for being in a compact land area; you make do with what you have to work with (like Knott's Berry Farm and Grona Lund)
When when you will return to Europe next year i recommend to visit Hansa park and heide park.
I hope you 200k subs ;)
So what happened to your wooden warrior review and Goliath review?
A little surprised by the review. Didn't expect it to be El Toro or T Express, but a 5? Hopefully it will improve like X2 did.
Love Balder, so fun!!
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Still waiting on that Behemoth review you said you were going to do in the "near future"... That was 3 years ago lol.
I actually really liked the ride. It was just pure fun. I do see the problem of it being repetitive but I do not mind it that much.
Can you please make a video explaining how you personally keep track of your credits and also what you consider a credit?
The tighter airtime hills look very fun
Fun fact: El Toro is the only wooden roller coaster with a cable lift
T express also has it
Sh*t
I heard that from somewhere a while ago i thought it was true
Lol thank you
Sorry Koreans!
Would you consider doing a Nemesis Inferno review? And possibly by extension a one off Coaster Fights between Nemesis and Nemesis Inferno.
Yeah Balder is one of their smaller pre-fabricated wooden coasters, and I think ElToroRyan said it best: these Intamin pre-fabricated wooden coasters are definitely better as bigger rides. When you look at the building techniques Intamin used, these wood coasters are expensive to manufacture. I mean look at El Toro, that cost $28 million to build, and T Express costs $36 million to build. Because of the larger elements, larger trains, and crazier airtime you can pack in, these wood coasters are definitely better when a park has plenty of money to build a massive wood coaster that you can't get from traditional building methods. But it's one of the earlier ones, opening in 2003, so Intamin has definitely improved the pre-fabricated wood coaster with El Toro, and then T Express combining the best of El Toro, with Balder's second half~
I loved it. I think it has got a smooth but very enjoyable airtime and layout. It sounds crazy, but I even like it more than "El Toro". Anyways I think it is not completely fair to compare them as the sice difference is just huge. They don't play the same game and Balder is perfect for the role it is playing at Liseberg
I’ve never been this early.. HI TAYLOR
The best ejector airtime I've had was on Coaster at PNE in Vancouver BC. NOT a family coaster. It's objectively intense and scary, and I'll ride anything.
For me Balder is the second best wooden coaster next to El toro
I live in sweden and have been to Liseberg a few Times and I Will say that you have your dive coaster witch focus on The drop and helix with it loops and then balder for air time. Just skip Lisebergsbanan as a good coaster it need to be replaced by a bnm.
they'd struggle to fit a B&M onto the hillside! It's surprising enough that B&M are doing a complicated layout at Groena Lund as B&M don't usually do things that complicated. Also Lisebergbanan is such a classic!
for me Lisebergbanan was a surprise. Its old but has aged well and packs fun and surprisingly forceful corners for such an old ride
Makes sense, i've never ridden it but from povs and off ride footage the layout did look pretty boring and repetitive. I didn't understand the hype surrounding the ride. That drop does look super unique though!
Me: looks at any wooden coaster
Also me: hmmm they should make that into an RMC
If you are saying that Liseberg shall rmc balder i Will say no. I have been in contact with them and that Will not happend in AT least 15 years
There are some nice RMC coasters, but Balder is a great coaster on its own, and I enjoy the choice there is.
By the way: Try a seat in the middle!
I was thinking about making this for my next episode.
Huh, so I guess Balder is like the Hollywood Dream of prefab woodies
Good analysis. Since I found El Toro too intense, perhaps it's a ride for tweens and seniors like me---but what an odd "audience" for a coaster that would be.
I think you should do another review of El Toro, It was your number 2 in your last top 25 coasters but you did not seem like it felt that way in the review imo.
I think if they added a cable lift it could probably bring a better ride I’m not sure I haven’t ridden this
So. I have a problem. I live in Europe, but my favourite woodie is wickerman. I need to do some begging with my parents right now.
i just reviewed this coaster too. Was cool to hear your opinion :D
Excellent, I found the same! :)
I always wondered why you never made a review for this ride when you came back from Europe.
If u could get ur 800th next year on Zadra or Hyperion what would it be
what is classified as an enthusiast? Because I only have 35 credits but I love roller coasters and figure out as much as I can about all of them no matter which continent or park. Just wanted to know because I classify myself as an enthusiast but I don't know if I am really classified since I'm 13 and can barely go to amusement parks. I also classify my home parks lucky since I live in Ohio so I have kings island and cedar point. I have also gone to Carowinds for only a few hours so I could ride vortex (regret), fury325, intimidation, etc.
It is frustrating because the track design is expensive but it can sustain much greater force than normal wooden track, but balder doesn’t use this to its advantage like el toro does. It almost seems pointless that it is a prefab because it was more than twice the amount then a GCI but it isn’t doing anything special
Good review. I was expecting it to get a higher score tho
Did PewDiePie go on this? It is in the town where he grew up
Do you think you could please review Katun at mirabilandia? I saw you rode that 2 years ago as well and was wondering what your thoughts were since I think you preferred it to Ispeed in the same park
Its on my to do list
You are correct sir!
Who else misread the title and thumbnail as "Bladder?!?"
Can you do a review for behemoth at Canada’s Wonderland?
Go watch a POV of T Express, it looks like it has the second half of Balder and it scares me that it will be overrated when u ride it
I'll give you that everything you said may have been true (haven't ridden it because I'm from 'Murica and am broke), but even so, a 5 sounds a bit harsh. I'd have thought based on what you said 6, simply because you've said before anything below a 5 is outright bad. But hey, your video, your opinion.
5 is 'meh.' a 6 or above is good, a 4 and below is bad. this isn't a 'bad' ride, its just an 'okay' ride
please go and reride helix :)
Have you been in xetulul, Guatemala?
Lol. I would’ve been fine with el toro as a young kid. I was a little psycho. 😂
👉Once El Toro always El Toro!!! No comparison at all...😁🎢🇧🇷
this ride is cerrone
Hasn’t someone said that this is likely to not stay around due to the awful maintenance this requires.
Please review Katun
I completely agree with your review! I was massively let down by Balder, I genuinely found it quite dull. It's one of the most overrated coasters in Europe!
PATRIOT REVIEW PLEASE!!!!!!