How To Find Chords for your Vocal Samples
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The energy in your voice is higher than any track ive ever produced 😂
cracked me up more than it should've haha
This track is a banger, it deserves to be finished and released! Thanks for the knowledge too!
It should have been, I usually release everything. I shall investigate!
Just realized this video was from a year ago so I will also investigate, not sure what the song name is but I’ll do some digging.
Brilliant tutorial @Bthelick I think i'm gonna have to watch this back a few dozen more times til it sinks in properly😂😂
Your videos are the best
This is yet another amazing video and exactly what i needed today:) been struggling with this stuff recently and Im having to relearn everything after having an accident thats caused a brain injury and these videos are even perfectly explained for someone like myself haha! so thank you ! how do we get to join in with your track feedback and community ? :)
Hey Aaron. sorry to hear about your setback, best wishes to you for a speedy and strong recovery my friend.
I do have a video on track feedback because it's quite a nuanced subject.
I'm thinking maybe it's a patreon reward thing (if I set one up) with some of the prerequisites described in that video.
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@@Bthelick thats brilliant to hear thank you ! you really are the best tutorials that ii have seen on here and all the vids ive watched so far have been so relatable to what ive needed in the present moment so thank you very much for your great work!!! and thank you for the kind words my friend! means a lot !
Should vocals always be mono? Meaning, should they only be recorded in mono?
Also, in your opinion do you have a favourite vocoder? I have Vocalisynth 2. It’s horrible.
Usually yes recorded mono imo, but Depends on the destination / audience. The main reason to record anything in stereo is to take advantage of a good room ambience / early reflections , if you have that then you may get a good stereo recording (if that reverb is appropriate to the final sound of course)
Or if you're recording a choir or multiple bvs it is usually more effective to record in stereo than multi tracking one person and panning, otherwise mono for sure.
If I receive a stereo file (usually as a result of effects or panning of layers) I will check it doesn't collapse in mono , if the balance is done I usually leave it.
For vocoders I always use Ableton's included it does everything I need. I mostly find the synth carrier signal is the important part anyway.
Although that new vocodine looks great for old school talk box emulation , that's not been done very well before in my experience.
Thank you. I would love you do another video on this. However, speaking in terms of actual notes. Within the relationship to bass. Possibly explore triads as a video itself. Thank you sir.
Thanks.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "speaking in terms of actual notes" can you elaborate on that? 👊
@Bthelick sorry poorly explained by myself. I guess I will work it out. What notes relate e b g etc to make up triads. How they stay in key with bass riff. Or visa versa. What notes make up a triad what is a triad. Sorry for my clumsy wording. Lingo.
Ahh ok. Have you seen my chord numbers video yet?
I rarely list actual notes as that only teaches 1 scale out of hundreds, it's much easier to learn the relative distances from the root note (key) so you can apply it to any key and scale afterwards. For example when you know a triad is made up of notes 1 3 and 5 off the scale you now know every triad chord in any key and any scale, whereas if I told you A C E then you only know the 1 triad chord in A Minor.
@Bthelick thank you so much. I will watch that video. I haven't yet, but I will definitely. Yes, I understand much more now. You are a great teacher and musician.
House production school !!!!
Hey this might be a dumb question but as you mentioned in another video basically every chord (could) contains all of the scale‘s notes, why does the chord choice even matter? Wouldn’t it fit to choose any chord of the scale/key? Or has this something to do with the fact that the note we want to pronounce is part of the „main triad“ of a certain chord of the key/scale?
And why is the 2nd chord a bad option for minor?
Anyway thank you so much!
Nevermind I should’ve watched the next 10 seconds and there is at least the answer for my first question 😂
Haha no worries it was a valid question!
Regarding chord 2.
Chord 2 in minor (7 in major) does not form a triad like the rest. Every other chord in those scales is either a major or minor triad, whereas 2 is a diminished triad.
It just sounds weird and it's generally less useful in most pop music that's all.
Thank you!!
Wow what a great find this channel is! Just a question when you say extend down does that also mean like an inversion ?
Sorry for the confusion. Extended down isn't really a term, it's just my way of explaining the concept.
Doing this 'downward expansion' thing we are actually just making new chords, because the new note is the root of a new chord, the top note of the old chord now becomes an extension of the new chord.
An inversion would mean we were keeping the same chord but changing the order of the notes so the root note is no longer the bottom note.
Hey Bthelick great video once again! I’m wondering if you know if it’s possible to do the trick you used to make the F sharp minor appear like an A minor in Logic Pro?
It definitely will. Try looking for "transpose" in the track inspector.
Can you make a video please on how do You record voices or explain the flow on working together with Tasia Sky on tracks? :D
Yes good idea.
In the meantime, know this;
Tasia records her vocals from home in her bedroom from a cheap Rode usb mic . I advise singers on a budget to sing in the bedroom with their back to an open clothes wardrobe / closet. That's the very next best thing to a proper vocal booth as the clothes absorb the room reflections from the direction the mic is actually pointing, which is a thing most get wrong.
We've never actually recorded in my studio together!
excellent mate! i did wanna ask tho Bthelick when you transpose the instrument afterwards using the pitch shift, will that always be accurate? with all notes? sorry if i sound dumb, im a noob 😂
Accurate in what sense? Can you give a time stamp where I transpose here for context, sorry it's been a while I can't remember
@@Bthelick I just ment when you create your chords in A minor then at the end you transpose up or down depending on the key required, it was 5 mins 40 seconds in buddy
@bassyjay6281 ah I see. Do you mean accurate in terms of sound quality? Or in terms of scale?
@@Bthelick just scale mate, as long as its a minor scale like A it will be matched after the transpose?
Yes , a minor scale is a minor scale. It's note to note distances that make the scale type.
I think I explain best in this video at 2 30
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Top notch video as always! Wich ai midi program did you use?
I didn't use an ai program, this functionality has been built into Ableton live for a while.
If you don't have Ableton there are other ways like AI now yes. I haven't tested any though as no need.
The best to do it as always!! Thanks so much. I was trying to find the best suited video of yours to ask this questions and this perhaps may be the closest but the opposite way around (vocals for a chord progression / mode)
I was deconstructing a midi trance lead to work out the chords and found it to be in F Lydian (progression was I, vii, iii, II). How would I approach finding a vocal sample to suit a progression in this mode as Lydian isn't typical on say Splice for example. As F Lydian is a mode of the C Major Scale, would the closest vocal sample be best suited in C Major? I was confused because the tonal centre would be F, and if I chose C major the vocal sample would be C. Or am I looking at this all the wrong way!? Modes are confusing me! I like this progression in my track but want to make sure i'm using the best suited vocal sample.
Thank you!!
That's a strange progression alright, is it an existing track?
That sounds like more like a progression in A Minor not F lydian. Those chords would be the classic 6517 in A Minor, much more likely.
You're original thinking was correct in the sense that your best chance of finding an existing vocal would have been C major (A Minor) but you probably just made the mistake of presuming the first chord in sequence had to be chord 1, and it doesn't.
The first chord (in time ) does not have to be chord 1 (in pitch) !
That makes much more sense now! I was thinking F Lydian seems to be a very odd for trance which are typically in minor. It was a midi lead melody from a pack and I was trying to deconstruct it to work out the chords. I think I need to go back to fundamentals and do some more reading / watching into modes and understanding identifying how you know you're in which.. The progression actually resolves back to the 1 for the last 2 of 32 bars so I should have picked up it was centred around A and not F! Thanks again as always@@Bthelick
When you say 'reverse extensions,' do you mean inversions?
No, I see why you think that though.
But, An inversion is a re-voicing of the same chord. Like moving note 5 (the high E of an Am) to underneath.
But when we add the next note in sequence (meaning the miss one press one sequence) we get note 6 (an F). Adding note 6 to chord 1 it's no longer chord 1, it becomes chord 6 , but with a 7th on top. (Adding F to Am becomes Fmaj7 not an inversion of Am).
That make sense?
@@Bthelick ey, bit too technical for me at the moment but I'm studying music theory this year that will take me to grade 5 so maybe I'll get an understanding as I continue on.
Thanks anyway and great content.
@@ironfistentertainmentptylt3846hey no worries. Which bit didn't you understand? We can go through it if your want. It's probably a language barrier more than anything tbh.
"Reverse extensions" is not a standard term, I invented it to describe the process of making chords in the downward direction.
Let me know which bit you don't understand
@@Bthelick don't worry about it. I don't want to confuse myself. I have this huge University of South Africa music theory workbook to contend with. I'll gat there. I was just curious for now but your content is generally comprehensible to me.
@@ironfistentertainmentptylt3846 no problem. Feel free to ask any questions as they come still. ❤️👊
Where can I get your ableton theme😍
right here drive.google.com/file/d/1ZLvzYl_msSjxVFxO_1m8WMFoGSJBdzcA/view?usp=drive_link
@@Bthelick thank you!
Do you know any good way to write a melody line for a woman vocal? I have a problem with this and i can always change key later, but usually idea/song becomes worse. I always think through the prism of my voice and I don't know how to change it.
Do you mean the melody becomes worse or the track suffers from the key change?
What I mean in general is that in most cases women sing in a different register than a man. Just changing the octave doesn't always work. I'm thinking about an approach that would help me effectively composing with melodic lines for a female voice @@Bthelick
I don't have any specific methods for writing for female performers no. I try to research their range from past recordings and then match that to the intended emotion. Meaning if you want a soft chill track you don't want them singing at the top of their range, where as if you want a belting diva style old school house vibe then you do want them at the top of their range.
but it's down to the individual , there's no general difference imo writing for female vs male.
@@Bthelick In one of your videos you said that producers often compose vocals using chord progressions "i iv v". Could you write more about that? Does that mean that composers use the simplest chords possible in the first phase of composing a song, and then change them? When listening to Ariana Grande's last single I had the impression that melody line was composed for completely different chords and I immediately remembered your words.
Yes I show it in the Hayden James video.
It's usually the other way around, producers compose different chords around existing vocals.
The vocals are stored by agencies and labels and can exist on 'the circuit' for years before being used, they are usually written to a basic backing track, sometimes made by the singer themselves. The labels and agencies then sell the vocals to producers to see who will take them.
If the producer doesn't have a musical ear, you can end up with some real juxtapositions.
It's always a balance between writing on simple chords, so that many chord options may be used in the future (most plain ditonic melodies will fit over most chords) Vs going for something more interesting at the risk of limiting the harmony options.
Why do you move the notes to A and then move them back down again with the midi control. Couldn't you just scale lock and then delete the out-of-scale notes? (I assume that's what you're trying to do?)
It's easier to understand visually and for those following that don't use Ableton it's a universal solution
makes sense! just wanted to come back to this video to say thank you. this has really demystified building harmony between synths, bass, and vocals. I've been playing around with this approach the past week and I love it @@Bthelick
Interesting but confusing 👍
Sorry to hear that. I ain't the best video maker haha. Anything I can help clear up?
@@Bthelick Yes. Send me your music theory knowledge 🤣🤣🤣 I've been binge watching your channel and subscribed ❤️