I love how Margret took her time...there was NO WAY she was going to end up with an ibble dibble on her face. Gillian really knocked the performance of Margret out of the park.
@@cremebrulee4759 In Southern and parts of Eastern Europe, yes, but not in the rest of the continent. 8pm certainly isn't THE normal time for the general population in places like the UK. Also, it's 6 o'clock in this scene and they're just arriving, it's not like they're expecting food to be served that exact instant. They're thinking dinner is probably at like 6:30-7
BRF: tea at 6 pm, dinner at 8 pm. Other places: tea/coffee at 6:30 pm, dinner at 8:30 pm Me: Coffee at 6:30 pm, dinner at 10 pm. (I don't have the time for early dinner, really)
I really doubt that the Queen would have humiliated any of her PMs, indeed any of her guests, in that way. Even if she had had the desire to do so, I think there would have been enough royal advisors and private secretaries around to tell her that subjecting her PM to sheer embarrassment was not a brilliant idea.
@@GoldenGodman Yes of course. But many people can't tell the difference. There is another example from the Crown which is just as glaring, that of the visit of John and Jackie Kennedy to Buckingham Palace and their ignorance of royal protocol. JFK was the son of the American Ambassasor and he was in Buckingham Palace in the 1930's attending many formal receptions, he knew the exact protocol. Jackie Kennedy was at the 1953 Coronation (covering it as a Press Photographer) and grew up in the equivalant of high American Aristocracy. They were not country bumbkins. I am just pointing out things that might not be obvious to others.
@@eddihaskell I wasn't replying to you, but it works just the same, I guess. I'm pretty sure most people know most stuff in the Crown other then official events is heavily using poetic license. The people that don't either don't care enough or simply dislike the Royal Family and would love to act like some of the bad stuff in this show was real.
What I see here is Thatcher humiliating herself and failing at being a normal human being. It's not the royal family's fault if Thatcher is humiliated. It's because she's ignorant of the nobility's custom (when she dresses too early for dinner) or because she's too stiff and snobbish to enjoy a silly game which most normal families in England or elsewhere play at parties. Now, the question that remains is: Did Thatcher really had a whole broom stuck up her arse?
It’s supposed to be said quickly and to rhythm to the beat, as it’s supposed to be fun. She was trying so hard to be perfect that it wasn’t fun anymore for anyone else
Its not too difficult. Everyone is assigned a number and trying to avoid being dibble ibbled(spotted). So Number one Ibble Dibble with six(if you have six on your face)dibble ibbles calls number 4 Ibble Dibble with no dibble ibbles. (If they have none) - if you get the phrase, momentum or numbers wrong you get spotted, in this case a seventh spot (dibble ibble)
@@victordeoliveira4380the point is you were supposed to relax and have fun. She was trying so hard to be perfect, that she missed the whole bonding of the game: to look silly around others with dots on your face.
@@boxsterman77 Because it's more about the writer than the actual story. There's no nuance or insight here (which the actors could portray), just a writers tribalistic hate coup counting using events that never happened with a caricature.
@@MrCSeiberlin Fruit salad, literally... The point of the scene was to contrast how Thatcher was an outsider to the Royal family, and not familiar with their habits, which is a theme portrayed throughout the show, whenever Thatcher was involved with the Royals. It is irrelevant if it happened or not, the show is not a documentary. If you thought it was, then you are obviously misguided.
@@herlandercarvalho It was totally unlike Thatcher. She was no shrinking violet unsure of how to act in stressful situations (making the scene totally unlike her). She was a seasoned politician and not one to be cowed by the Royals, (of all people considering the other more dangerous high profile folks she had to deal with). But to illustrate why this scene doesn't fit her actual character there is this famous story where she visited the SAS and participated in close fire drill as the hostage with live rounds in 'the Killing House'. Her bodyguard (George) was against it but she insisted on being the hostage. They put her and the bodyguard in a totally dark room with cardboard cutouts. SAS kicks down the door, does their business and when the smoke clears Thatcher is sitting at the table with her hands resting on her purse. Her bodyguard is cowering under the table. According to the SAS, an irate Thatcher told her bodyguard "Get up George, you're embarrassing me". They get her character so wrong in this series is essentially a dishonest smear. You can hate her policies and disagree but if you are writing something that is loosely based on reality it should actually be close to it. Privately Thatcher didn't even talk like that (she was higher pitched and had to be trained to speak lower for public speeches) , but again it's used to portray her as a villainous bumbling caricature in the series which if you are basing characters who are real (and known) break the drama in favor of the writers own hang ups.
I love how Margret took her time...there was NO WAY she was going to end up with an ibble dibble on her face.
Gillian really knocked the performance of Margret out of the park.
Queen: “We’ll have supper early”
Philip: “But it’s 6 o’clock?!?”
Me: “Which is when a normal family might be getting ready to have supper”
6:00 p.m. in Europe is early for dinner. 8:00 p. m. is a more normal time.
@@cremebrulee4759 In Southern and parts of Eastern Europe, yes, but not in the rest of the continent. 8pm certainly isn't THE normal time for the general population in places like the UK. Also, it's 6 o'clock in this scene and they're just arriving, it's not like they're expecting food to be served that exact instant. They're thinking dinner is probably at like 6:30-7
BRF: tea at 6 pm, dinner at 8 pm.
Other places: tea/coffee at 6:30 pm, dinner at 8:30 pm
Me: Coffee at 6:30 pm, dinner at 10 pm. (I don't have the time for early dinner, really)
They had dinner at tea time.
I don’t know about you, but my family sits for dinner at about 8 PM
I hardly think it was like this in real life, But its kind of funny to think how socially awkward Mrs. Thatcher was
I really doubt that the Queen would have humiliated any of her PMs, indeed any of her guests, in that way. Even if she had had the desire to do so, I think there would have been enough royal advisors and private secretaries around to tell her that subjecting her PM to sheer embarrassment was not a brilliant idea.
You do realize this isn't a documentary, yes?
@@GoldenGodman Yes of course. But many people can't tell the difference. There is another example from the Crown which is just as glaring, that of the visit of John and Jackie Kennedy to Buckingham Palace and their ignorance of royal protocol. JFK was the son of the American Ambassasor and he was in Buckingham Palace in the 1930's attending many formal receptions, he knew the exact protocol. Jackie Kennedy was at the 1953 Coronation (covering it as a Press Photographer) and grew up in the equivalant of high American Aristocracy. They were not country bumbkins. I am just pointing out things that might not be obvious to others.
@@eddihaskell I wasn't replying to you, but it works just the same, I guess.
I'm pretty sure most people know most stuff in the Crown other then official events is heavily using poetic license. The people that don't either don't care enough or simply dislike the Royal Family and would love to act like some of the bad stuff in this show was real.
What I see here is Thatcher humiliating herself and failing at being a normal human being. It's not the royal family's fault if Thatcher is humiliated. It's because she's ignorant of the nobility's custom (when she dresses too early for dinner) or because she's too stiff and snobbish to enjoy a silly game which most normal families in England or elsewhere play at parties. Now, the question that remains is: Did Thatcher really had a whole broom stuck up her arse?
The "Balmoral Test" was documented by actual recorded thing that happened.
I love seeing the iron lady so uncomfortable
These people exist on an entirely different plane than us.
Not really they’re fault they’re born into a royal family, but you’re still right
I feel like I’m her in large social situations 😂😂😂
I'll never ever get over the indoor bagpipes 😂
We have a similar game in South Africa" Only we chant Who let the cookie out the cookie jar...
Omg we have the exact translation in germany 😂 wer hat den keks aus der dose geklaut.
i dont understand why everyone was just staring after shes done it correctly
It’s supposed to be said quickly and to rhythm to the beat, as it’s supposed to be fun. She was trying so hard to be perfect that it wasn’t fun anymore for anyone else
Talk about sucking the energy out of a room
I have no idea what all this ibble dibble stuff was about.
Its not too difficult. Everyone is assigned a number and trying to avoid being dibble ibbled(spotted).
So Number one Ibble Dibble with six(if you have six on your face)dibble ibbles calls number 4 Ibble Dibble with no dibble ibbles. (If they have none) - if you get the phrase, momentum or numbers wrong you get spotted, in this case a seventh spot (dibble ibble)
«No ibble dibble you fibble» is the best - from Anne
@@allornothing432 Do you really think this is easy? I now know that PM did very well, what a complicated game for beginners.
@@victordeoliveira4380the point is you were supposed to relax and have fun. She was trying so hard to be perfect, that she missed the whole bonding of the game: to look silly around others with dots on your face.
Members of the lower middle-class DO have trouble in upper class company.
Ibble Dibble?? Seems a strange game.
They are a strange family.
@@julirowen3988 Centuries of inbreeding will do that to a family😬
😂😂😂😂@@_Phoenix3
@@_Phoenix3 Yes among all European Royals. And that inbreeding his Spanish royalty very hard.
Hated Thatcher, .......... but i can almost sense the " WTF " am i doing here with these freaks !!
They make Thatcher seem normal and that's really saying something😂
She would consider having fun freakish
Off with their heads dibble dibble.
Y seguro que ni se lavan las manos antes de sentarse a comer......
Completely ridiculous.
Omg🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Eu amo esse episódio
Thatcher dressed casually as always, she could have at least made an effort.
I don't dig the dibblee
It’s definitely a game I do not understand lol. But then again, my own family and I have some traditions that I’m sure others would gawk at too lol
omg, they're so unlikeable
Stupid series...😮
Why exactly? I thought the acting was sublime. The production value was incredible.
@@boxsterman77 Because it's more about the writer than the actual story. There's no nuance or insight here (which the actors could portray), just a writers tribalistic hate coup counting using events that never happened with a caricature.
@@MrCSeiberlin Fruit salad, literally... The point of the scene was to contrast how Thatcher was an outsider to the Royal family, and not familiar with their habits, which is a theme portrayed throughout the show, whenever Thatcher was involved with the Royals. It is irrelevant if it happened or not, the show is not a documentary. If you thought it was, then you are obviously misguided.
@@herlandercarvalho It was totally unlike Thatcher. She was no shrinking violet unsure of how to act in stressful situations (making the scene totally unlike her). She was a seasoned politician and not one to be cowed by the Royals, (of all people considering the other more dangerous high profile folks she had to deal with).
But to illustrate why this scene doesn't fit her actual character there is this famous story where she visited the SAS and participated in close fire drill as the hostage with live rounds in 'the Killing House'.
Her bodyguard (George) was against it but she insisted on being the hostage. They put her and the bodyguard in a totally dark room with cardboard cutouts. SAS kicks down the door, does their business and when the smoke clears Thatcher is sitting at the table with her hands resting on her purse. Her bodyguard is cowering under the table. According to the SAS, an irate Thatcher told her bodyguard "Get up George, you're embarrassing me".
They get her character so wrong in this series is essentially a dishonest smear. You can hate her policies and disagree but if you are writing something that is loosely based on reality it should actually be close to it. Privately Thatcher didn't even talk like that (she was higher pitched and had to be trained to speak lower for public speeches) , but again it's used to portray her as a villainous bumbling caricature in the series which if you are basing characters who are real (and known) break the drama in favor of the writers own hang ups.
@davidstein1376 as I said it : stupid
Anne’s reaction😂😂😂😂