Both Durant and curry running thebdliopy action, with LBJ at the top of the key. Been saying this is my pg sg and sf for my all time starting 5. LBJ is the pg of course.
I don't understand why players are expected to stay loyal to the team that drafted them when the team doesn't have the same expectations of loyalty to the player placed on them.
they barely beat South Sudan, Serbia and France and required Curry to go nuts 🤣 As well as they might look on offense - they are turnover machines and terrible on defense
@@raoulhery And Kobe was nowhere near another NBA Finals in 2012 & a year away from tearing his Achilles. Magic in 91 was 2nd in mvp votes. He was still in his prime.
@@rackball5858 can say the same for durant and lebron, they no where near the finals yet they were great, not sure why you bring up the achillies tear as he was playing amazing prior to his injury.
I would say overall impact on the league would go to the old trio overall. Magic and bird rivalry saved the league and MJ took the NBA to a global level. If we are discussing talent, I would say the modern trio is better overall.
@@Paulafan5 Steph has a better handle and definitely shot compared to Magic stop it. Offensively it’s not even close. Only thing Magic has is passing and that’s he 6’9. And before you say he better defensively he never even made an all defensive team once with all that size. Steph torching him on the court. And Bird never played anyone with KD size and skill. Even the late great Kobe said KD was the only player he never figured out before he retired. And I believe that Jordan is the GOAT still. But overall skill wise, lebron a better facilitator and rebounding as well as the all time leader in points. So if you want to say MJ>Bron I don’t blame you but it could also be said that they’re even too.
Bird didn’t play much due to back injury and Magic was retired and wanted to play and Jordan was in his prime. Mean while KD,Curry, Bron all north of 35 are playing like their 30
You aren't factoring in 30+ years of medical and training advancements. Bird magic and jordan are the reason basketball took the road to where it's at now. Bird and Jordan could be placed in todays game in their primes and be among the best players in the league easily
...and they still should have lost to Serbia. Serbia missing a ton of 3s, Curry's lucky bounce, the 6 point play, and a French player playing for Team USA instead of... France. The real Dream Team had no danger of losing.
if he shaves, easily. but i like him with the beard. he looks 30 years old for a 36 year old guy, which is pretty good. kevin durant actually looks younger now with the clean shave buzz cut.
These two great players were born in Ohio on the same hospital and now they're team up in Olympic Basketball and bagged the GOLD. What a great moments..
Bro. This 3 on 3 would be crazy. No weakness on either side. Shooting Curry and Bird slashing Bron and MJ. Mid range KD and Jordan, passing Magic and Bron. Old school might have a defensive edge and stronger mentality. New school athleticism. It’s just crazy.
Depends on the rules remember back in the day they was able to handcheck and now they can’t so it depends on the rules at that point regarding the old school defensive edge
@@NukeUndisputed And you ''meat riding'' anything ''old school'' by always comparing new to old is even more corny..... How about you stop DIC riding the past, and leave the past in the past.....
@@NukeUndisputed thats actually a really dumb rumor which for some reason everyone believed. i wish people actually watched jordan's games, or even highlights.
@@bigjhayooh he would be a much better demar de rozan in today's game. plus the fouls, and the gather step, jordan actually took 2 proper steps without a gather. if jordan could gather the ball then take 2 steps, he would be on another level offensively. easy 30 ppg guaranteed. in his prime, he could get 40 ppg. if james harden could get 36 ppg in a season, i think prime jordan could have had a 40 ppg season. anyways, this is all hypothetical. none of us will ever be proven right or wrong.
I have thought that the Dream Team was better. But when I saw the USA beat Serbia, I started to question that. Then the gold medal game put me over the top, and now I believe that THIS Is the best team the USA has ever fielded.
@@georgegonzalez1996 it’s not a fact it’s and opinion you have no metrics to say that.. croitia in 1992 had 3 nba players on it.. simply saying players are better today then in 1992 is like saying I could beat DJ in a 1on 1 game because evolution..
@@kirkroyse4705 I’m going to guess that you were possibly a toddler during that Olympics. I was a grown man and watched all the games and no team except Spain had any fire power on their teams. But you are entitled to believe whatever makes you happy, I won’t even try to stop you.😂✌🏽
@@georgegonzalez1996 43 with a 840 fico score dream team the most dominant team ever put together.. this years bigs would get destroyed by 92s bigs, if I was a youngster I would think like you a soft moron
Ngl. Much better talking point. 17 3's in 2 straight Olympic games is iconic. If Ice Trae doesn't play on an Olympic team in the future, that record will never be broken. Period.
Imagine if Bird and Magic were on the same team. Or what about Jordan and Magic. Or what about if Jordan and Bird had played together. Geeeeeeezus it would’ve been the murder trail of the century!! 💀
It'll be boring.. rivalry between Magic and Bird save the NBA. It's the talk in every barbershop in the 80'.. black vs white.. I'm not a racist, but that's the bottom line in that rivalry..
THAT'S the difference. They didn't. The entire league was dominated by those three individuals leading their teams, one team only, to pretty much every championship in that era. That is insane.
This ain't close because Jordan wasn't apart of the Bird and Magic era. Jordan's era was the 90s while Magic n Bird was the 80s. KD Bron and Steph played and were at their peak during their era at the same time
This segment feels forced. I don't consider MJ in the same era as Magic and Bird. That is like putting Kobe in the same era as KD and Steph. I think an era only includes players who were in their prime, or close to it, at the same time.
Can't put Kobe and Shaq they played together and won 3 ships together. Can't put KD and Curry together they played together and won 2 ships together. Bird magic and Jordan didn't play together to win ships. LeBron didn't join his rivals also
@@c4choze we are talking best big 3 era, late 90s up until early 10s clearly belong to Kobe Shaq &Duncan just like the 80s belong to Magic&Bird and 90s belong to MJ
Timing and circumstance has a lot to do with it, but Magic, Bird, and Mike are true legends whose legacies only strengthen in time. I really think Curry is the only current player we'll still talk about in 30/40 years.
We didn’t really see Mj, Bird, Magic in their prime together. But Steph Jordan KD showed to the personification of 3 top 15 players being unbeatable if they’re all healthy, in synch with different styles.
@robertduclayan2298 STOP IT,,,,GET SOME HELP!!! MJ AVG 37.1 PPG OVER 25 YRS AGO,,,,,NO ONE HAS AVG MORE SINCE THEN BUT TODAYS PLAYERS ARE MORE SKILLED!!!!! MAGIC AS A ROOKIE PLAYED CENTER & WON THE CHIP WITH A 42,,,,15 & 7 GAME... LARRY BIRD 3X MVP 3X NBA CHAMPION. JORDAN SIX 3'S IN 1ST HALF OF A FINALS GAME,,,,STILL A RECORD... STOP IT,,,,GET SOME HELP!!!
Curry top 10. MJ is 1 bron top 5. KD to 20. KD has never won anything as the man of his team. The other 5 have. LBJ has always had other Star and ran to Hear other 4 didn't. This is not close. KD will fold and MJ is the best on the court.
Kendricks point on Steph, KD, Bron being transcendent, well, Bird, Magic, and MJ was too. No other PF was a shooter like bird in his day, MJ was MJ, and the league didnt have a 6'9" PG who could pass.
@@detroitvcw bro MJ and Pippin are wayy better defenders then LBJ, KD and Curry and they struggled with magic in the finals. MJ is obviously better but MJ is not far behind. No way KD, Curry, LBJ guard them. Magic will guard LBJ. MJ would guard Curry and Larry on KD. Plus they could all switch. So it's really not even close. Also KD has never won as the man of his team. Heart matters. Especially when you're playing against three trash talkers who ripped your heart out. Curry actually rips people's heart out. He just doesn't talk the usual trash that we see.
Jordan, Magic, and Bird just on nostalgia I take these three. I like Lebron, Curry, and KD also, so I am not diminishing either Big 3. From the 1980's to 2024 the NBA has been outstanding.
It's definitely splitting hairs. Those 3 with the original dream team sparked the international talent and interest in the game. That said, some of these international teams wouldve given the original dream team the blues. Bron and KD at their big age, steph whom revolutionized the 3 point shot for the game, you have to tip your hats to em. They just took on a beat a talent pool of teams the original dream team never saw. Team France, Serbia, Canada, and etc. All had elite NBA talent on it.
@@jarredhaynes3088I doubt '24 opponents would give '92 team any more trouble then they would the '08 team. I think they '08 team covered every game except the gold medal game against Spain. '92 has superb perimeter defenders and I don't see anyone matching them in the post including current '24 team. Jordan wasn't taking the Olympics seriously but he just came off a 6 game finals series where he was averaging 36 pts a game on 53% shooting.
Team that drafted them? These teams and owners don’t care about the players like that unless you’re Kobe or dirk from this era. They are looking out for themselves so the players do the same. Jordan vs lebron bird vs kd magic vs curry. I got new school, magic ain’t staying with curry, lebron will manhandle mj
Yeah, LeBron walk it up past the mid court gives the ball to Curry and Curry does all the work while the idiot watches and takes credit for everybody else's work..
The competition is unquestionably more competitive today vs. the 80s/90s. C'mon man this debate is so old, this generations player are SO MUCH BETTER than they were decades ago. SMH
Shaq Kobe Duncan 99-14 they were in 14 out out of those 16 nba finals in that span winning 11 out of it. The 00s get look over too often and i aint having it.
Based on what? I love the 92 Dream Team but yall romanticize that squad. Bird and Magic were over the hill. And most importantly that team never played anyone great. International teams were terrible back then.
The thing about this is Magic and Bird had a rivalry, Lebron and Steph/KD had a rivalry, MJ did face Magic but its not comparable to the other two rivalries that happened.
Not to mention, the old guys had teams they had to beat, knicks pistons, pacers, jazz, sonics. Basketball had some teams that was crazy. Now everyone wants to leave teams and make all star teams.
i remember when stars used to stay at the team they drafted for a little bit then left 10 years later, not immediately get poached by big market teams after year 3-4. it’s how teams like the pistons wizards and blazers will never win a championship in the next decade. LeBron and Steph better not happen or i’ll won’t watch just like when KD joined GS, that was borderline cheat code of an all star team. GS is why the CBA has changed dramatically
Dude if Lebron and Steph happens.. It'll just be for shitsandgiggles.. They wouldn't win anything.. They're both out of their primes.. This would be nothing like KD and Steph
at this point of their lives i dont think them both pairing up would destroy their legacies. Judging from both of their performances and accolades and achievements for the past decade they can do whatever they want, they've semented their legacies. No harm can ever be done specially when people have witnessed them play together which was proven to be more exciting than ever.
Why should players be loyal to teams??? Teams aren’t loyal to players. The minute a team realizes they can no longer profit off of a player, they trade them. It’s a business, there is no loyalty
@@juansanchez209 now that’s the case. back then i guarantee you it was much different. there wasn’t a lot of a “James Harden forcing himself out of a team” situation. the owner arguement about they never care ok that’ll probably still stand but the people around the organization care. just like how they care about steph curry, they cared about michael jordan. the blazers cared about damian lillard. they’re now never on TV unless there’s more allegation news about someone or they’re on a losing streak
Let's not be ridiculous. Original Dream team could sit MJ, Bird and Magic and still beat this crap team by 30 Stockton, Malone, Pippen, Drexler, Barkley or if we wanna go big, sit Clyde or Pippen and put Ewing or Robinson in. Steph is great, but the rest of them not so much, and some are just trash. KD and LeBron scared to take a shot in those last 2 games until Jokic got 4 fouls could not be agressive, then KD shot once. LeBron shat his pants in 4th quarters and was throwing passes out of bounds, how much he was shaking. Yabusele says hello by the way.
Sounds like your the one being ridiculous lol. Go look at Jordan stats in those 92 games, he was one the worst players on the Dream Team. Bird was on his last leg, and Magic was right there behind him.
If KD didnt join Steph, Steph only has 2 and KD maybe has 1 or 2 with OKC as the Bus Driver Dopey KD only ended up helping Currys legacy by joining the Warriors
@@Nostalgia9478yes, by adding multiple superstars & getting his way. Meanwhile they Vedo'd CP3s trade to LA for the FIRST VEDO'D TRADE in NBA HISTORY & THE LAST lmao you fool haven't understood the game being catered for LBJ then idk what to tell you. That SAKE year Bron & Bosh go to Miami smh. Bron wanted Spo fired lol dude literally can't win unless he sifts entire teams. But he's a top player? In terms of GREATness Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Kobe & Curry clear. Lenron can be better than whoever you choose but this GOAT talk is just sickening. You don't chase rings & team up with Star after Stat then get called the GOAT. You can't make it make sense.
“Did it with the team that drafted them” that’s an invalid statement the Lakers was already a really good team and had one of the best players at the time then drafted Magic Johnson 1st overall pick .
To put MJ in the Magic and Bird era is stupid. There have been 4 eras in which you can define NBA basketball where competition exists between all three. First, there was Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain and Jerry West. Next you have Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and Kareem. Third is Jordan, Hakeem and Karl Malone. Next up is Kobe, Shaq and Tim Duncan. Then it’s Lebron, KD and Steph. Now debate which era is the best
I got MJ, Bird, and Magic on this one. Ppl gonna say today’s players are more skilled, but ‘Will‘ beats ‘Skill’ every time. Prime MJ never lost, and bird was an ice cold killer. Magic you could say would even out with LBJ Steph or KD. But prime MJ and Bird are not losing a game like that
Not close. 1992 far superior to 2024. 1992 results: 8-0, 117.3 Pts/G, 43.8 Pts/Diff 2024 results: 6-0, 105.3 Pts/G, 19 Pts/Diff The 1992 Dream Team won all 8 games by 30+ Points. The 2024 Team won only 1 game by 30+ Points, and came close to losing the last 2 games.
@@sukfkdjsjdSabonis, Petrovic, Radja, Marciulionis, Kukoc are all in the NBA Hall of Fame & some of them didn’t even come to the league until they were well past their prime. Name me eventual hall of famers from Puerto Rico, South Sudan, & Brazil…
It's nice to have conversation of these guys joining together. It's no different then they have been doing. Of course they wouldn't have thought of doing that back in the days. Because back in the day they wanted to compete against the best and not join them. Also why do they love comparing this era with back then?
I don’t get it. Kendrick talks about how the new 3 changes the game… The old 3 did the same!! Larry pioneered the 3pt, there is no LeBron without Magic, and MJ?!?! C’mon everyone wanted and still wants “To Be Like Mike”.
LeBron, KD and Steph. Clearly the talent and skill set is way better. The teams are far deeper than anything Jordan or Magic or Larry played against. Im 60 years old and was able to see 70's, 80's, 90's, and 2000's hoop and for me this game has just evolved in ways that are far and above anything from our past.
Let me see, MJ usually ranked 1, Magic 5 and Bird 7 as opposed to Bron 2, K.D. anywhere from 17 to 20 and Curry below that due to lack of defense. So that isn't my ranking but....
David Robinson was DPOY/MVP in his prime pre-Back..prime Stockton/Malone all-defense player..prime Scottie..Prime Drexler..the Team had 6 MVP..not comparable to 2024
I’m guessing they’re saying which big three had the best era of basketball because there’s no way you think that Michael Jordan Magic Johnson and Larry Bird are beating Steph Curry KD and LeBron there’s no way
MJ - carried the Bulls to a championship. Bird - carried the Celtics to a championship. Magic - carried the Lakers to a championship. Lebron - carried the Cavs to a championship. Steph - carried the Warriors to a championship. KD - carried by Steph to a championship.
Two things in this debate we always overlook. 1. There were nearly as many international or young players to provide tougher competition when Bird and MJ were in the league. 2. There was no social media where players could watch and study the players to draft a game plan when MJ and Bird were in the league. If MJ was around social media. Think how his game and mental health would have been exploited. Bron and KD any time!
What's crazy is that Jordan couldn't beat Magic or Bird. He had to wait until they were old and out of the league and the NBA was watered down and expanding to dominate. People are starting to say that Steph is the greatest point guard of all time, KD is greater than Larry Bird or at least gives him a run for his money. On top of that, they had to team together in their prime, literally two MVPs at the peak of their powers to beat LeBron. Just imagine if magic and bird were on the same team in their primes during Jordan's Prime. Something tells me if Jordan had to face two MVPs that teamed together he wouldn't have six rings. No one wants to talk about this though. They just ignore the vacuum of talent that was created after Bird and Magic retired and how the league was wide open for Jordan's taking.
14 titles combined, 11 MVPs, 11 Finals MVPs, 3 different dynasties. This is no debate. Not to mention how we’re talking about the reason why the NBA became a phenomenon in and outside the US. Bird and Magic gathered the local fans to watch basketball than MJ took it to a whole different level both in the US and internationally. We are also talking about rivals here. All went up against each other. KD and Steph were together in their primes. Not to mention how Kawhi, especially at his peak, has a claim in there. 2 Finals MVPs, 2 rings, one of them being maybe the most iconic championship run in the current big 3 era.
It’s not close, those players in the part of their career and how they were playing during that time and how they actually played during the Olympics it’s Steph bron and KD. Bird and Magic were retired.
Magic played with Kareem😂 a Top 5 Player all time. Jordan had a Top 5 Sf in Pippen. Shad had Kobe. Bron had Wade, Curry ain’t the only one to play with a Top 5 player at the time
Lebron unstoppable to the basket
KD the mid range assassin
Curry with the 3pt atomic bombs
They go great together
Both Durant and curry running thebdliopy action, with LBJ at the top of the key. Been saying this is my pg sg and sf for my all time starting 5. LBJ is the pg of course.
Facts💯!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lebron unstoppable period.
Imagine if all three team up 💪🏿😤
@JasonWilliams-um8im I seen Jason Terry JJ Barea and Jason Kidd stop him 😅😂
I don't understand why players are expected to stay loyal to the team that drafted them when the team doesn't have the same expectations of loyalty to the player placed on them.
Exactly
Because most fans are stupid. lol
Anything to make they’re opinion valid
Wym? Players don't even fulfill their contracts lol foh
people only say it to help their narratives
The rest of the league is VERY lucky that LeBron and Curry never teamed up when they were in their primes. They work really well together
Nobody works well with Tabum though
lol
I mean LeBron has teamed up with Bosh & Wade. Kyrie & Love. Just Curry & LeBron won't do it LBJ needs another star
The league is lucky bird Jordan or magic was on the same team in there prime
they barely beat South Sudan, Serbia and France and required Curry to go nuts 🤣
As well as they might look on offense - they are turnover machines and terrible on defense
@@MikkiChavez - Lebron needed the Avengers to barely beat Serbia, South Sudan and France
What about 2012 : Kobe, KD and prime Bron. Multiple Mvps, finals MVPs, repeats and a bonus three peat !!🎉🎉
That’s a 12 year window. Magic, Bird, & Jordan was a 19 year window of championships.
@@rackball5858 back in 92 Bird and Magic were way past their prime. While KD and Bron were just facing each other in the 2012 finals
@@raoulhery And Kobe was nowhere near another NBA Finals in 2012 & a year away from tearing his Achilles. Magic in 91 was 2nd in mvp votes. He was still in his prime.
@@rackball5858 1992 was great but not because of Magic. It had prime Barkley. Malone, Ewing and the Admiral D. Robinson
@@rackball5858 can say the same for durant and lebron, they no where near the finals yet they were great, not sure why you bring up the achillies tear as he was playing amazing prior to his injury.
When a player leaves a team, he’s not loyal. When a team trades a player it’s business
PREACH!!!!!!!
Bird and Magic were done at 31
Done saving the league. Lol😅
With 8 rings in 11 years
Yeah, done almost not letting any other team in the NBA win a championship in the process, LOL
Bird retired at 35.
@@redskinsxviiDone regarding impact.
Nobody saying nothin bout Shaq n Kobe?! Tim Duncan??
Yup
Yeah those were the Big 3 in 2000s Era
Comparison is the thief of joy.
Man what about Kobe, Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett?
Shaq over KG
3:36-3:43 thanks for clearing that up Harry
Too respectfully, First Take will move him out quickly. It’s a debate show, but these guys are being nice
IMHO Hawk was just Standing on Business
14 CHAMPIONSHIPS IN 19 YEARS!!!!🏀🏀🏀💯💯💯
That's a team statistic
@@jauwannr
YOUR RIGHT SO DO YOURSELF A FAVOR & GOOGLE THE INDIVIDUAL STATS OF
MICHAEL JORDAN
LARRY BIRD
MAGIC JOHNSON
@@reallife0728 they don't compare to the other 3... At all 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@jauwannr
YOU GOTTA BE TROLLING!!!!
JORDAN STATS ALONE DESTROYS KD,,BRON & STEPH...
MAGIC & LARRY STATS,,,DUDE YOUR TROLLING!!! ✌️✌️✌️
@@reallife0728 what stats? 😂🤣 you gotta be slow
There’s no defense anymore Perk
I would say overall impact on the league would go to the old trio overall. Magic and bird rivalry saved the league and MJ took the NBA to a global level. If we are discussing talent, I would say the modern trio is better overall.
MJ>Lebron
Magic>Steph
Bird>KD
It's not even close.
@@Paulafan5 Steph has a better handle and definitely shot compared to Magic stop it. Offensively it’s not even close. Only thing Magic has is passing and that’s he 6’9. And before you say he better defensively he never even made an all defensive team once with all that size. Steph torching him on the court. And Bird never played anyone with KD size and skill. Even the late great Kobe said KD was the only player he never figured out before he retired. And I believe that Jordan is the GOAT still. But overall skill wise, lebron a better facilitator and rebounding as well as the all time leader in points. So if you want to say MJ>Bron I don’t blame you but it could also be said that they’re even too.
@@Paulafan5exactly ppl be disrespectful to Bird
Tht mustache is killing me
Bird didn’t play much due to back injury and Magic was retired and wanted to play and Jordan was in his prime. Mean while KD,Curry, Bron all north of 35 are playing like their 30
You aren't factoring in 30+ years of medical and training advancements. Bird magic and jordan are the reason basketball took the road to where it's at now. Bird and Jordan could be placed in todays game in their primes and be among the best players in the league easily
Magic was in the Finals and third in MVP voting the season before. He only retired because of HIV scare. He was high level still.
@@robertdavis5662 *2nd in MVP
@@MrTaxSeasonby your logic George Mikan is the goat, the first nba star and paved the way for everyone else
...and they still should have lost to Serbia. Serbia missing a ton of 3s, Curry's lucky bounce, the 6 point play, and a French player playing for Team USA instead of... France. The real Dream Team had no danger of losing.
After the Klay leaving there is no such thing as loyalty in the NBA
Curry still looks like he's in his 20s lol
@@_Customizednah facts.. late 20s if anything tho.. still 20s.. but he still look hella young tho
if he shaves, easily. but i like him with the beard. he looks 30 years old for a 36 year old guy, which is pretty good. kevin durant actually looks younger now with the clean shave buzz cut.
These two great players were born in Ohio on the same hospital and now they're team up in Olympic Basketball and bagged the GOLD. What a great moments..
lol I’m not betting against MJ😅
@@inked_ascention why not, he got swept in the playoffs lol
@@juansanchez209so did LeBron. Got swept in 2 Finals. Plus LeBron didn't make the playoffs until his 3rd year. Clown.
@@jermo1213callin someone a clown to feel better abt being a clown 😂
@@jermo1213Bron better then mj get over it cornball
@@remycraig yeah you a clown with s cape on.
Bro. This 3 on 3 would be crazy. No weakness on either side. Shooting Curry and Bird slashing Bron and MJ. Mid range KD and Jordan, passing Magic and Bron. Old school might have a defensive edge and stronger mentality. New school athleticism. It’s just crazy.
Depends on the rules remember back in the day they was able to handcheck and now they can’t so it depends on the rules at that point regarding the old school defensive edge
As soon as perk started to open his mouth, I had to fast forward..........
Always
Hahaha. Me too.
Me too
yall meat ride anything "old school" its corny
@@NukeUndisputed And you ''meat riding'' anything ''old school'' by always comparing new to old is even more corny..... How about you stop DIC riding the past, and leave the past in the past.....
6:56 we need more analysis like this at espn🙏🏽🔥
THEY GOT MJ SO WHO EVER GOT HIM THATS WHO I GOT
He would be like a demar derozen in td game
mj cant even use his left hand
@@bigjhayooh😂dum az
@@NukeUndisputed thats actually a really dumb rumor which for some reason everyone believed. i wish people actually watched jordan's games, or even highlights.
@@bigjhayooh he would be a much better demar de rozan in today's game. plus the fouls, and the gather step, jordan actually took 2 proper steps without a gather. if jordan could gather the ball then take 2 steps, he would be on another level offensively. easy 30 ppg guaranteed. in his prime, he could get 40 ppg. if james harden could get 36 ppg in a season, i think prime jordan could have had a 40 ppg season. anyways, this is all hypothetical. none of us will ever be proven right or wrong.
Them klutch sports checks hit different.
Soooo we go brush aside Kobe and Tim Duncan 😏
2000s big 3 would be shaq, kobe, tim
both got carried by superteams smh
I have thought that the Dream Team was better. But when I saw the USA beat Serbia, I started to question that. Then the gold medal game put me over the top, and now I believe that THIS Is the best team the USA has ever fielded.
Because they won by and average of 7 points lol 😂
@@kirkroyse4705
This USA Olympic team faced much better competition than the Dream Team.
That’s not a hot take, it’s a fact.
@@georgegonzalez1996 it’s not a fact it’s and opinion you have no metrics to say that.. croitia in 1992 had 3 nba players on it.. simply saying players are better today then in 1992 is like saying I could beat DJ in a 1on 1 game because evolution..
@@kirkroyse4705
I’m going to guess that you were possibly a toddler during that Olympics.
I was a grown man and watched all the games and no team except Spain had any fire power on their teams.
But you are entitled to believe whatever makes you happy, I won’t even try to stop you.😂✌🏽
@@georgegonzalez1996 43 with a 840 fico score dream team the most dominant team ever put together.. this years bigs would get destroyed by 92s bigs, if I was a youngster I would think like you a soft moron
Lame topic to talk about instead of Curry's epic performance.
Exactly
This is a debate show, not a reaction show
Ngl. Much better talking point. 17 3's in 2 straight Olympic games is iconic. If Ice Trae doesn't play on an Olympic team in the future, that record will never be broken. Period.
It’s an 8 minute clip from a 2-3hr show!!!!
Bron did better than curry
Douglas had a outstanding point 💪🏿😤
Imagine if Bird and Magic were on the same team. Or what about Jordan and Magic. Or what about if Jordan and Bird had played together. Geeeeeeezus it would’ve been the murder trail of the century!! 💀
It'll be boring.. rivalry between Magic and Bird save the NBA. It's the talk in every barbershop in the 80'.. black vs white.. I'm not a racist, but that's the bottom line in that rivalry..
THAT'S the difference. They didn't. The entire league was dominated by those three individuals leading their teams, one team only, to pretty much every championship in that era. That is insane.
Larry bird was slow asl
None of thoae players are as interchangeable as LBJ. The most versatile player of all time. Imagine if he teamed up with any of the 5
Sir, neither of them could get up and down the court w/o medical treatment at the time. This would be a lopsided mismatch.
This ain't close because Jordan wasn't apart of the Bird and Magic era. Jordan's era was the 90s while Magic n Bird was the 80s. KD Bron and Steph played and were at their peak during their era at the same time
They were not athletic enough to keep up with Lebron, Curry and KD.
Right and others can say LeBum Curry and definitely KD don’t want to get physical! MJ and the crew would play bully ball!
@@Kelvin-k8n Talent/ athleticism > "more physical"/"tougher"
No one seems to be able to keep up with Luka or Jokic and they have a combined vertical of 8 inches…
Yet little white guys from France can😂😂😂
MJ is more athletic than all these fools.
This segment feels forced. I don't consider MJ in the same era as Magic and Bird. That is like putting Kobe in the same era as KD and Steph. I think an era only includes players who were in their prime, or close to it, at the same time.
1st MJ,Magic,Bird 14 rings
2nd Kobe,Shaq,Duncan 14 rings
3rd LBJ,Curry,KD 10 rings
Were did #2 even come from you must be a Kobe fan.
Can't put Kobe and Shaq they played together and won 3 ships together. Can't put KD and Curry together they played together and won 2 ships together. Bird magic and Jordan didn't play together to win ships. LeBron didn't join his rivals also
@@c4choze we are talking best big 3 era, late 90s up until early 10s clearly belong to Kobe Shaq &Duncan just like the 80s belong to Magic&Bird and 90s belong to MJ
bill ruseel and robert horry: 18 rings. Debate over
Facts💯!!!!!!!
Timing and circumstance has a lot to do with it, but Magic, Bird, and Mike are true legends whose legacies only strengthen in time. I really think Curry is the only current player we'll still talk about in 30/40 years.
Magic & Bird & Jordan was just something different. You cant name 3 people who later were in the NBA that were more influential.
Kobe, Lebron, and Curry
Curry...quite literally Curry at the least
We didn’t really see Mj, Bird, Magic in their prime together. But Steph Jordan KD showed to the personification of 3 top 15 players being unbeatable if they’re all healthy, in synch with different styles.
@@youngblood4127 of course you're leaving bron out.. only first or 2nd best ever
Curry is more influential than all of those guys combined because he changed the geometry of basketball on every level.
Stay in school, kid.
Amazing that their collective era will span the late 70s until the late 20s - almost half a century of greatness.
Importance to the league and legacy - Bird, Magic, MJ
Who would win in 3 on 3 - LeBron, Steph, KD
Doubt it, MJ was all 3 in one Final Boss mode.
PRIME BIRD,,,MAGIC & MJ WOULD DESTROY STEPH,,KD & BRON!!
Magic can't barely shoot. Larry's handle are limited. Jordan can't shoot 3's. Today's players are a lot skillful!
@robertduclayan2298
STOP IT,,,,GET SOME HELP!!!
MJ AVG 37.1 PPG OVER 25 YRS AGO,,,,,NO ONE HAS AVG MORE SINCE THEN BUT TODAYS PLAYERS ARE MORE SKILLED!!!!!
MAGIC AS A ROOKIE PLAYED CENTER & WON THE CHIP WITH A 42,,,,15 & 7 GAME...
LARRY BIRD 3X MVP 3X NBA CHAMPION.
JORDAN SIX 3'S IN 1ST HALF OF A FINALS GAME,,,,STILL A RECORD...
STOP IT,,,,GET SOME HELP!!!
When your argument is "its just different" you dont have one.
MJ is the 🐐 Magic & Bird are top 10 players of all time, Lebron is #2 and Steph & KD are top 15 players of all time
Uhhh no lebron and steph are the greatest player and greatest point guard ever
You are smo*ing good product 😅
Curry top 10. MJ is 1 bron top 5. KD to 20.
KD has never won anything as the man of his team. The other 5 have. LBJ has always had other Star and ran to Hear other 4 didn't.
This is not close. KD will fold and MJ is the best on the court.
Kendricks point on Steph, KD, Bron being transcendent, well, Bird, Magic, and MJ was too. No other PF was a shooter like bird in his day, MJ was MJ, and the league didnt have a 6'9" PG who could pass.
@@detroitvcw bro MJ and Pippin are wayy better defenders then LBJ, KD and Curry and they struggled with magic in the finals. MJ is obviously better but MJ is not far behind. No way KD, Curry, LBJ guard them. Magic will guard LBJ. MJ would guard Curry and Larry on KD. Plus they could all switch. So it's really not even close.
Also KD has never won as the man of his team. Heart matters. Especially when you're playing against three trash talkers who ripped your heart out. Curry actually rips people's heart out. He just doesn't talk the usual trash that we see.
As Olympians-Kd,Steph Lebron
Prime-Mj,Magic Bird
IM 42 YEARS OLD AND ITS DEFINITELY BRON, KD, & CHEF CURRY. What an amazing performance. Give them their flowers already
I stared at the wall too after he hit that 3-pt over the double team from France!
I'll take Lonzo, LaMelo, and LiAngelo over all of the greatest big 3s who ever played.
Sdfu
1980s -1990s Bird Magic Jordan
2000s Shaq Duncan Kobe
2010s LeBron Curry Durant
Respectfully, ESPN needs new analysis. The way they STILL hold on to 90’s is getting down right disgusting. And i’m 40!!
Jordan, Magic, and Bird just on nostalgia I take these three. I like Lebron, Curry, and KD also, so I am not diminishing either Big 3. From the 1980's to 2024 the NBA has been outstanding.
Jordan, Magic and Bird...not even close!!
It's definitely splitting hairs. Those 3 with the original dream team sparked the international talent and interest in the game. That said, some of these international teams wouldve given the original dream team the blues. Bron and KD at their big age, steph whom revolutionized the 3 point shot for the game, you have to tip your hats to em. They just took on a beat a talent pool of teams the original dream team never saw. Team France, Serbia, Canada, and etc. All had elite NBA talent on it.
@@jarredhaynes3088it’s a coin toss to me but I give the edge to the dream team just based off defense
@@jarredhaynes3088I doubt '24 opponents would give '92 team any more trouble then they would the '08 team. I think they '08 team covered every game except the gold medal game against Spain. '92 has superb perimeter defenders and I don't see anyone matching them in the post including current '24 team. Jordan wasn't taking the Olympics seriously but he just came off a 6 game finals series where he was averaging 36 pts a game on 53% shooting.
Team that drafted them? These teams and owners don’t care about the players like that unless you’re Kobe or dirk from this era. They are looking out for themselves so the players do the same. Jordan vs lebron bird vs kd magic vs curry. I got new school, magic ain’t staying with curry, lebron will manhandle mj
Lebron and curry work so well together not suprised if curry joins the lakers someday
Cone Curry better join his Daddy MVP Bron on the Lakers if he wants to win anything
Yeah, LeBron walk it up past the mid court gives the ball to Curry and Curry does all the work while the idiot watches and takes credit for everybody else's work..
@@cooljp1531While your pwecious POS Cone Curry plays no defense and puts up playoff Dlo numbers 70 pct of the time
There, fixed it for you
lol
@@Nostalgia9478 Cone curry sent lebron packing 3 times
Better go fast
What happened to PTI? Where are Tony and Mike?
The competition is unquestionably more competitive today vs. the 80s/90s. C'mon man this debate is so old, this generations player are SO MUCH BETTER than they were decades ago. SMH
GO WATCH THE TAPE
People really think that ALL OTHER SPORTS except for basketball have improved. It’s ridiculous.
"iT Was TOughERR BaCKK IN ThE DAY!"
The question was about legacies and what they meant to basketball.
What about Tim, Kobe, and (Dirk or Wade)?
You mean Kobe,Shaq and Duncan? C'mon now. Smh
If Perk doesn't think that Larry, MJ, and Magic weren't "different", I don't think he ever saw them play.
No. Everyone else in their era just sucked.
Shaq Kobe Duncan 99-14 they were in 14 out out of those 16 nba finals in that span winning 11 out of it. The 00s get look over too often and i aint having it.
They didn’t play Olympics together fam. That’s y it’s a debate
The 1992 Dream Team is and always will be the greatest basketball team ever assembled.
Nah. Not better than this year's.
Based on what? I love the 92 Dream Team but yall romanticize that squad. Bird and Magic were over the hill. And most importantly that team never played anyone great. International teams were terrible back then.
Not better than 2008 redeem team either
Every game was a blowout. 😆.
This Team almost lost to Sudan
No it's not let it go
The thing about this is Magic and Bird had a rivalry, Lebron and Steph/KD had a rivalry, MJ did face Magic but its not comparable to the other two rivalries that happened.
Not to mention, the old guys had teams they had to beat, knicks pistons, pacers, jazz, sonics. Basketball had some teams that was crazy. Now everyone wants to leave teams and make all star teams.
The Portland Trailblazers were pretty good in the early 90’s too. It’s just too bad they matched up with the bad boys and mj/bulls
@@OldChanCharlie yea absolutely
i remember when stars used to stay at the team they drafted for a little bit then left 10 years later, not immediately get poached by big market teams after year 3-4. it’s how teams like the pistons wizards and blazers will never win a championship in the next decade. LeBron and Steph better not happen or i’ll won’t watch just like when KD joined GS, that was borderline cheat code of an all star team. GS is why the CBA has changed dramatically
Dude if Lebron and Steph happens.. It'll just be for shitsandgiggles.. They wouldn't win anything.. They're both out of their primes.. This would be nothing like KD and Steph
at this point of their lives i dont think them both pairing up would destroy their legacies. Judging from both of their performances and accolades and achievements for the past decade they can do whatever they want, they've semented their legacies. No harm can ever be done specially when people have witnessed them play together which was proven to be more exciting than ever.
Why should players be loyal to teams??? Teams aren’t loyal to players. The minute a team realizes they can no longer profit off of a player, they trade them. It’s a business, there is no loyalty
@@juansanchez209 now that’s the case. back then i guarantee you it was much different. there wasn’t a lot of a “James Harden forcing himself out of a team” situation. the owner arguement about they never care ok that’ll probably still stand but the people around the organization care. just like how they care about steph curry, they cared about michael jordan. the blazers cared about damian lillard. they’re now never on TV unless there’s more allegation news about someone or they’re on a losing streak
I'm 20 and it's definitely mj, bird and mj
I'm 21 and it's steph, kd, lebron what your point
You’re just saying this to get clout with older fans, but no matter what you say you’ll always be a nephew to them. This is a losing game
@@TAUJHEveryone always likes to pretend theyre objective. Weak tactic by the OP
Bro taking it personal.😂😂😂
@@TAUJHmeans he’s being objective goofy and not basing it just on him grown up watching bron, curry and KD
All of them at their peak: LeBron, KD, and Curry. This shouldn't be a debate. Players nowadays are more talented and competition is more difficult.
More talented but less competition. Also no 3 second rule in jordan era . Jordan changed the rules learn something bro
It’s definitely Bron, KD, and Steph
In 15 years we’ll be talking about Wemby, Flagg and… as the Big 3 players that defined the late 20s and 30s
Let's not be ridiculous. Original Dream team could sit MJ, Bird and Magic and still beat this crap team by 30
Stockton, Malone, Pippen, Drexler, Barkley or if we wanna go big, sit Clyde or Pippen and put Ewing or Robinson in.
Steph is great, but the rest of them not so much, and some are just trash. KD and LeBron scared to take a shot in those last 2 games until Jokic got 4 fouls could not be agressive, then KD shot once. LeBron shat his pants in 4th quarters and was throwing passes out of bounds, how much he was shaking.
Yabusele says hello by the way.
not saying much bird was barely moving in 92. magic was past his prime as well.
Sounds like your the one being ridiculous lol. Go look at Jordan stats in those 92 games, he was one the worst players on the Dream Team. Bird was on his last leg, and Magic was right there behind him.
lol another old head living in da past.
@@TequilaThursdays That just proves my point. All three could just not play and that Dream Team still wins.
Olympics and all star games are the only format where Bron and Steph are on the same team. Was a great experience and for us!
If KD didnt join Steph Bron would have 6 and even James Harden and CP3 would have rings
If Lebron didn’t go to Miami to team up with Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen… he’d have 0
If KD didnt join Steph, Steph only has 2 and KD maybe has 1 or 2 with OKC as the Bus Driver
Dopey KD only ended up helping Currys legacy by joining the Warriors
@@nydibsBron won chips in Cleveland and LA
Make it make sense
Just like if LeBum stayed on the same team like Curry he’ll have NO rings!!!!
@@Nostalgia9478yes, by adding multiple superstars & getting his way. Meanwhile they Vedo'd CP3s trade to LA for the FIRST VEDO'D TRADE in NBA HISTORY & THE LAST lmao you fool haven't understood the game being catered for LBJ then idk what to tell you. That SAKE year Bron & Bosh go to Miami smh. Bron wanted Spo fired lol dude literally can't win unless he sifts entire teams. But he's a top player? In terms of GREATness Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Kobe & Curry clear. Lenron can be better than whoever you choose but this GOAT talk is just sickening. You don't chase rings & team up with Star after Stat then get called the GOAT. You can't make it make sense.
“Did it with the team that drafted them” that’s an invalid statement the Lakers was already a really good team and had one of the best players at the time then drafted Magic Johnson 1st overall pick .
That would be a fire 3v3!
To put MJ in the Magic and Bird era is stupid. There have been 4 eras in which you can define NBA basketball where competition exists between all three. First, there was Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain and Jerry West. Next you have Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and Kareem. Third is Jordan, Hakeem and Karl Malone. Next up is Kobe, Shaq and Tim Duncan. Then it’s Lebron, KD and Steph. Now debate which era is the best
I got MJ, Bird, and Magic on this one.
Ppl gonna say today’s players are more skilled, but ‘Will‘ beats ‘Skill’ every time. Prime MJ never lost, and bird was an ice cold killer. Magic you could say would even out with LBJ Steph or KD. But prime MJ and Bird are not losing a game like that
Absolutely NOT!
Wrong convo. It should be Steph, Bron & Leonard Era comparison
Wildin 😂😂😂.. Kwahi is great but this is the convo for sure my guy lol
Not close.
1992 far superior to 2024.
1992 results:
8-0, 117.3 Pts/G, 43.8 Pts/Diff
2024 results:
6-0, 105.3 Pts/G, 19 Pts/Diff
The 1992 Dream Team won all 8 games by 30+ Points.
The 2024 Team won only 1 game by 30+ Points, and came close to losing the last 2 games.
Less competion tho…
Name three players that played in 1992 not from USA.
@@sukfkdjsjdSabonis, Petrovic, Radja, Marciulionis, Kukoc are all in the NBA Hall of Fame & some of them didn’t even come to the league until they were well past their prime. Name me eventual hall of famers from Puerto Rico, South Sudan, & Brazil…
Can someone check if perk has been added back to the clutch pay roll
It's nice to have conversation of these guys joining together. It's no different then they have been doing. Of course they wouldn't have thought of doing that back in the days. Because back in the day they wanted to compete against the best and not join them. Also why do they love comparing this era with back then?
Seeing lebron choose to throw the ball to curry was awesome , he knows to win it would take a team effort and seeing them team up was truly an art
I don’t get it. Kendrick talks about how the new 3 changes the game… The old 3 did the same!! Larry pioneered the 3pt, there is no LeBron without Magic, and MJ?!?! C’mon everyone wanted and still wants “To Be Like Mike”.
LeBron, KD and Steph. Clearly the talent and skill set is way better. The teams are far deeper than anything Jordan or Magic or Larry played against. Im 60 years old and was able to see 70's, 80's, 90's, and 2000's hoop and for me this game has just evolved in ways that are far and above anything from our past.
Where are Stephen A and Shannon?
Let me see, MJ usually ranked 1, Magic 5 and Bird 7 as opposed to Bron 2, K.D. anywhere from 17 to 20 and Curry below that due to lack of defense. So that isn't my ranking but....
David Robinson was DPOY/MVP in his prime pre-Back..prime Stockton/Malone all-defense player..prime Scottie..Prime Drexler..the Team had 6 MVP..not comparable to 2024
Perk is wild with the takes 😅😅
Steph Curry & Lebron James on the same team, and give them a deep bench. What team in the league is stopping those two in the playoffs.
I’m guessing they’re saying which big three had the best era of basketball because there’s no way you think that Michael Jordan Magic Johnson and Larry Bird are beating Steph Curry KD and LeBron there’s no way
They would easily destroy them noob
MJ - carried the Bulls to a championship.
Bird - carried the Celtics to a championship.
Magic - carried the Lakers to a championship.
Lebron - carried the Cavs to a championship.
Steph - carried the Warriors to a championship.
KD - carried by Steph to a championship.
Russell carried Celtics to eleven championships!
How about Kobe Duncan Shaq
Air Jordan, Bird and the Magic Man no question about it.
Two things in this debate we always overlook.
1. There were nearly as many international or young players to provide tougher competition when Bird and MJ were in the league.
2. There was no social media where players could watch and study the players to draft a game plan when MJ and Bird were in the league.
If MJ was around social media. Think how his game and mental health would have been exploited.
Bron and KD any time!
Big Perk been smoking some good shiiiiiiiiiii*!
3 peat twice with less competition. Celtics and Lakers had staring lineups of all HOF players
OG Dream Team is in a league of their own.
😢 why we still comparing era's
What's crazy is that Jordan couldn't beat Magic or Bird. He had to wait until they were old and out of the league and the NBA was watered down and expanding to dominate. People are starting to say that Steph is the greatest point guard of all time, KD is greater than Larry Bird or at least gives him a run for his money. On top of that, they had to team together in their prime, literally two MVPs at the peak of their powers to beat LeBron. Just imagine if magic and bird were on the same team in their primes during Jordan's Prime. Something tells me if Jordan had to face two MVPs that teamed together he wouldn't have six rings. No one wants to talk about this though. They just ignore the vacuum of talent that was created after Bird and Magic retired and how the league was wide open for Jordan's taking.
I think kevin durant is a better scorer than in this era 💯
14 titles combined, 11 MVPs, 11 Finals MVPs, 3 different dynasties. This is no debate. Not to mention how we’re talking about the reason why the NBA became a phenomenon in and outside the US. Bird and Magic gathered the local fans to watch basketball than MJ took it to a whole different level both in the US and internationally. We are also talking about rivals here. All went up against each other. KD and Steph were together in their primes. Not to mention how Kawhi, especially at his peak, has a claim in there. 2 Finals MVPs, 2 rings, one of them being maybe the most iconic championship run in the current big 3 era.
The DreamTeam Was All Top 75…If Im Correct…💯
Old era wins slightly but let’s not ignore the fact that the new era are still all playing at an elite level and can make up ground
Starting to question if Molly,Shannon and Stephen A will return
14 champions to 10 champions said it all
They skipped the Kobe shaq ands Tim Duncan era
It’s not close, those players in the part of their career and how they were playing during that time and how they actually played during the Olympics it’s Steph bron and KD. Bird and Magic were retired.
Magic played with Kareem😂 a Top 5 Player all time. Jordan had a Top 5 Sf in Pippen. Shad had Kobe. Bron had Wade, Curry ain’t the only one to play with a Top 5 player at the time