@@WarAgeTV Idiocracy confirmed. YOU Bron stans practice more delusion & idol worship than ANYONE. CHECK THE MIRROR. Only low IQ casuals with no true knowledge of basketball would not choose MJ. Kareem second. LeBron is not in the conversation. Too many losses and too many excuses. And the steroids scandal exposure after he retires will be fatal to this dumb ass argument.
Stephen speaks truth. Now let me speak some truth. Michael Jordan stayed with one team. He didn't have to flop around from team to team like lebron james. Michael jordan didn't have to play on superteams to win.
@@krossoverBR ruclips.net/video/tl3mR6eoEa8/видео.html you are welcome. NOT EVEN CLOSE AT ALL. Accomplisment, Winning, Eye test, Statistic, lebron got KILLED.
only because he has stupid fans real fans know MJ did more in less time and was light years better than the whole league! you can see in shannon sharpe face that he shilling for the Lebron fans this will always get ratings!
@@dominiqueedwards2847 pls dont call skip again when speaking about Unc after that bs disrespect. Skip is perhaps a ok sportcaster, but Shannon is magic
SAS and Uncle Shay is gold ....Good to see Tim Legs get screen time, dude def is unbiased and good analyst of the game, he's a former player but ain't an old grump
Shannon "You pick you head & lookk at me when I'm talking to you Stephen A" Stephen A "Shannon you sit up straight & look at me when I'm talking to you" This was great 🤣🤣🤣
🤦♂️ sounds like WWF/WWE we gotta put the lebron debate to rest… it would be clear if he was “better than Jordan” Jordan was a more profound icon. Jordan was 6-0 on the same team All the other things said about the Jordan debate, too, like dunk contest DPOY, etc etc 😂 so annoying
@@von1626 yes they can… many players can have their own unique talents as well. but nevertheless, the debate is simply due to the two people being very close in talent; which I would still just take as a concession that lebron fans just want to at least elevate him to a “photo-finish” if he is nevertheless #2 all-time and I think that’s where Stephen A actually hit the nail on the head with that one - that being definitively all-time #2 is just a bitter-sweet SOB; though, he truly has soooo many accolades to fall-back-on, that legit he’s cool with it, especially because people can even delude themselves into beliving he could be #1. but ya, my opinion of the whole thing is that Jordan is all-time the face of basketball. He is the “babe ruth” (even though he’s WAY more epically famous and successful than babe ruth), and he just did it during a squeaky clean 90s where the control of tv media marketing was so much more potent; vs the weird era Lebron exists in, and this type of debate made possible through the internet, which he has been so guilty of completely feeding into the hype the whole time… I dno
@user-nh8co3fd2o agree with you. Jordan is way superior im from this era 23 years old so I have watched Bron in his prime. But I did research on MJ and it's not even close.
@@ChillydontCapHe didn’t lie he said after Jordan left the Bulls in 1998 Pippen went to averaging 13 a game which is facts….. Anybody that knows basketball knows Pippen wasn’t a scorer… If you think he’s anywhere near the offensive player Dwayne Wade, Kyrie and AD are then your highly mistaken
@@MINK2393 that’s not what he said. He said Pippen never scored 20 ppg. Which is a flat out lie. I know because of this thing called the internet. Scottie actually averaged over 20 ppg 3x in his career.
@@ChillydontCapYou need to rewatch and pay attention.. Thats not what he said at all your hearing what you wanna hear…. Pippen isn’t a scorer and is no way shape or form the offensive player that Wade, Kyrie and AD are
Idk, maybe it’s just me who feels different. Shannon and Skip had this debate so much that it’s gotten a bit annoying with people debating Jordan vs LeBron
@@lyvinlyphe9644 It's because Skip would always bring up Lebron in regular NBA conversations when the conversation had nothing to do with him. They ended up having so many unnecessary debates about Lebron, whereas this topic is actually Lebron vs Jordan lol.
But that's only an illution. When you go beyond the numbers and simple watch the game and see who acompliahed more in less period of time... The asnwer is obvious. Lebron's career is soo impressive mostly because his longevity. If it wasn't for his longevity, if him and Mike both had 15 seasons, when you compare Jordan's 15 seasons and Lebron's 15 seasons, you understand how far Lebron James is from Jordan. Jordan in his 15 seasons had 6 championships, Lebron in his 15 seasons had half as many😭😭🤣, Jordan in his 15 seasons had 6 Finals MVPs, Lebron only had 3. Jordan had 5 MVPs, Lebron had 4. Now, only with these 3 segments Jordan is ON ANOTHER LEVEL FROM LBJ, and than when you add Jordan's 10 scoring titles compating to Lebron's 1, when you compare Jordan's 9 first defensive teams comparing to Lebron's 5, when you compare Jordan's 3 stealing titles to Lebron's 1 assist title... That gab is huge. So that's I'm talking about, now when you add Lebron's 20 seasons some people think they might've been close, but when you at the context... It's only an illution and Jordan is the clear GOAT of this sport.
@@noleyestoad4477MJ had better circumstances and that’s factual. Jordan’s teams were far better than the field in his runs. James played against juggernauts.
@@lord4806 no MJ was the circumstance and no they were not better they had the best player which was MJ stop being foolish thats why scootie never won anything without mike! he MJ retired scottie couldnt even avg.20ppg just stop! If the Bulls was all that without MJ why they lose and scottie quit on them and didnt want to go in the game!
If the bulls face the warriors with with kd they wouldn’t of won in 2017 2018 lebron faced more competition in the finals Michael faced more competition getting to the finals
It's because LeBron has done nothing to pass Jordan & people Lowered Standards for LeBron. Every LeBron argument REQUIRES Compromise. LeBron is below 40% CAREER shooting past 3 feet! That alone disqualifies him
@@jps0583 he didn’t say that exactly word for word but he said he saw that him and LeBron needed to team up to accomplish what Kobe did with that lakers team cuz they couldn’t do what Kobe did if they were on separate teams. He said he called up LeBron right after Kobe won. And no Pau Gasol is nowhere near the level of D Wade, Pau is close to Bosh but even Bosh I’d take over Pau lol
@@joesanthosh5315 wade is also on record multiple times b4 this saying that the Celtics were the reason they teamed up…but ofc y’all wanna listen to wade now bc it has to do with kobe🤣and I honestly don’t know how y’all pulled Lebron into this…nowhere in the clip of wade saying he called Lebron does it indicate lebrons state of mind for joining Miami…Lebron is literally on record saying the reason y he joined is bc of boston…if u don’t believe me he said it in a post game interview after they beat boston in 2011…and maybe the reason Lebron and wade couldn’t beat boston is bc they didn’t have pau gasol on their team🤷🏽♂️just another example of kobe fans taking everting to the extreme to glorify kobe
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m At halftime in the Bulls Sonics finals, Larry Bird said the league expansion (adding six teams) had really hurt the league. Magic agreed. The league put 90 players into the league that couldn't make it before. And Doctor J joined with both in saying their best team could beat the 72 win Bulls. Because the Bulls couldn't match up with their front lines. Who did the Bulls get to replace Jordan? A journeyman player they brought up from the old G League, Pete Myers. Myers played all 82 games, starting 81.
@@kai6952nope....mj was trash after their last championship....same with kobe whos team lakers were dead last after last championship....those older folks simply played a very very inexperienced therefore weak era
@ProvenHueMan no that's based off of stupidity. You can try to frame it otherwise but there is a difference between saying someone is your goat and saying someone is my favorite player of all time.
I am a huge Kobe fan and had planned to name one of my sons after him (my wife was not going for it). Michael Jordan, on the other hand, is the greatest basketball player I've ever seen. Not only was he extremely gifted, but the guy was amazingly entertaining, even as a child growing up in a Knicks household. You despised him, but he was beyond great. I'm purple and gold forever, but to me, LeBron is a great player who has lasted longer. Even though Emmitt Smith is the all-time leading rusher, I don't think he was better than Barry Sanders. You can see the talent difference between the two, and that's how I view both Michael and LeBron.
Definitely give Lebron his flowers as a close 2nd imo, but MJ is the goat. This debate is like the one of Muhammad Ali vs Floyd Mayweather. Some might argue Floyd is the best boxer of all time because he’s undefeated. But what Ali meant to a generation and beyond, how he won, his fighting spirit makes him the goat. There really is no wrong answer it’s really about who inspired you the most
This was one of the best and funniest first take segments in a LONG time. I cracked up so many different times throughout the segment and appreciated everyones contributions to it. Even Josh Boyd 😂 SAS and Unc really are box office together
Thats actually pretty wild to say for a current player rival 2-time MVP and champion. Shows how dominant and how long Lebrons been at it. Many of the best players literally grew up watching Lebron as fans.
@@TimothyGray-o3dlosing lmao ? Dudes been breaking record after record, most people respect the dude, even the legends, then here comes mj meat riders who wants to downplay lebrons legacy just because lebron gets compared to mj. Mj is my goat, but it’s dumb to try to act like lebron don’t deserve to be compared against mj
No one grew up idolizing even kids today will still look at MJ no cap. Players today many many of them was inspired by MJ and still cooking ( Curry, Bron, KD, Dame, DB, JT, Antman, Mitchell, Klay Thompson, Ja Morant the list goes on and on)
Is it just me, or has everybody been wanting Shannon and Stephen A have this debate? Like fr, all the time? I can watch these two have this the debate all date. Every since Shannon was on undisputed I have been wanting these two too have this debate on live television. Even on his podcast, it was dope to see. Great stuff!!!
@@marcusb.1482 This just isn't as clever a response as you think. The first time the Goat debate was brought up over 10 years ago, it was stupid. To act like it's not a legit debate now is to ignore all of the context and just make surface level arguments. When the man is showing that on any given night he can still be the best player on the floor at 39, you don't acquit yourself by just pretending the debate is laughable. The thing that makes the debate so compelling IMO is the difference in style of the players. The irony is that the people who love MJ are the type that would hate to work with such a shitty team player at their work. They would complain about the arrogant prick they work with, but love MJ's "killer" personality or "Mamba" mentality even if they shit on others around them. LeBron is the guy that makes everyone better and makes everyone look better while giving them the credit when asked. He's the ideal teammate and co-worker, but people hate that in a sports guy. Obviously people will hate LeBron for his political activism and outspokenness on certain topics, but if we limit it to just basketball (which is borderline impossible nowadays) it's a worthwhile debate and much closer than fixed mindset Jordan supporters will ever admit it is.
@@robertdouth8979 it’s not lol… Jordan accomplished more in way less time… the only reason it’s a “debate” is because Lebron has Jordan on longevity… he was able to sustain his great level of play longer than Jordan was… but if that’s the measuring stick we’re using John Stockton is the goat point guard over Magic 🤷♂️
@@raymondsims7042 MJ stans are delusional. The only gap between them is how competent their FO was. Jordan only faced a top 10 player All Time in the Finals 1x and Lebron did it 7x.
@@kylonp7311GOAT of a watered down NBA after the expansion and conqueror of the old a*s Pistons, Celtics, and Lakers. And people keep forgetting Jordan WAS AROUNF WHEN HAKEEM WON
This GOAT debate is one of the funniest debates i usually listen to. Once you are in the conversation, it is all about personal preferences and opinion. How do you say one man has the best resume and not put him as the greatest? Plus so many other contradictory statements. At the end, there will never be 💯% consensus because it is a team sports and they will never be compared in the same and exact situation.
cuz its not all about scoring, its about basketball. Bron the most complete basketball player that ever played, easy. But I respect anyone who puts jordan as n1
Bill Russell has The Best Basketball Resume of Anyone: 2 NCAA Men's Basketball Championships + 1 Olympic Gold Medal Team USA in The 1960 Summer Olympics + 11 NBA World Championships in 13 NBA Seasons. Neither Lebron, Michael or anyone else is even close.
@@sammy_trix it's obvious who is the Leader of that Bulls team. Does anyone saying Irving and Love, Wade and Bosh and now Davis being under rated when a lot of guys knew James was the leader of those team?
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1:57 Shannon imitating Stephen A actually had me cracking up 😂😂😂
Definitely was an on point impression 😂
Shannon speaks with facts and Steven A speaks from idol worship and delusion
Classic!!!
@@WarAgeTV Idiocracy confirmed. YOU Bron stans practice more delusion & idol worship than ANYONE. CHECK THE MIRROR. Only low IQ casuals with no true knowledge of basketball would not choose MJ. Kareem second. LeBron is not in the conversation. Too many losses and too many excuses. And the steroids scandal exposure after he retires will be fatal to this dumb ass argument.
Stephen speaks truth. Now let me speak some truth. Michael Jordan stayed with one team. He didn't have to flop around from team to team like lebron james. Michael jordan didn't have to play on superteams to win.
The chemistry between Stephen and Shannon is getting incredible ….”Pick ya head up…””😂😂😂 funny
Pick ya head up when I’m talking to you
Look into the camera
That Stephen A imitation was perfect😂😂
SAS…”go ahead with the blasphemy…”😂😢😂 hilarious
This had me laughing all the way through! 😂 the chemistry between SAS and SS is comedy gold
Ong I love them both fuck skipp 😂
I think Shannon is happy that he’s allowed to finish his points and talk through his thought process.
@@GayleSpencer-n6fWhat does Skip have to do with anything? Bro lives in your head rent free, weird ass hate.
They’ve got that shared trauma from dealing with skiiiiup for 7 years.
Shannon mouthing “goat man goat man, yeah that’s him” had me rollin 🤣
Unc said that all the time on Undisputed. SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIP.
Lmaoooooo when I saw him mouth that I died laughing! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@@QueenOfTopicsTvI bet you know all about mouthing😮
Whats the time stamp
This debate is an instant classic 😂
pick your head up stephen A. you look at me when i’m talking💀💀💀💀
@@will-zj5gq🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes more classic to come Shannon is at his best talking about basketball
Giannis learn how to use GOAT BS to change gears
Longevity wise bron is the goat it’s amazing how long he been playing at a high level
There's no debate no more. We need to just enjoy this 2 legendary careers. They are more to see for LBJ
There never was. MJ is simply the goat by every metric.
@@srdjankovic only in rings, every other stats is for LBJ, sorry oldhead
@@srdjankoviconly in rings bro, lebron is better overall everywhere and yk that and mj knows that 😉
@@krossoverBR ruclips.net/video/tl3mR6eoEa8/видео.html
you are welcome. NOT EVEN CLOSE AT ALL. Accomplisment, Winning, Eye test, Statistic, lebron got KILLED.
@@stiiizy07 You are delusional. The only thing Lebron has better stats on is rebounds and assits😂
First GOAT debate I've watched all the way to the end. Didn't care about who it was, I was just laughing the whole time😂😂😂
First take about get interesting since the nba is back now
Bro 1 and 1a but they had me weak Stephen a should've pulled a Shannon on Shannon
Facts😭😭
True 😂
That Jordan vs bron conversation can go on for ages 😂
only because he has stupid fans real fans know MJ did more in less time and was light years better than the whole league! you can see in shannon sharpe face that he shilling for the Lebron fans this will always get ratings!
longer than israel/palestine,,,its crazy
Yeah cause lebron and his fans also media people on his payroll gone keep pushing the narrative
It ain't no debate Jordan the goat by a mile
@@GrantCentral-p2mmajority of the media are mj fans so that’s cap
@@GrantCentral-p2m jordan never beat a 73-9 team
Pick your head up Stephen A! Spoke to him like he's his son lmaoo😂😂😂😂 funniest moment on first take in a while.
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Dawg I fell out laughing😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Shannon's scream at 6:52 was the best part of the video. Dude makes faces and noises like the muppets
“Pick your head up when I’m talking”
I felt that 😂
Reminds me of when Skip told him to put his glasses back on 😂
@@dominiqueedwards2847 pls dont call skip again when speaking about Unc after that bs disrespect. Skip is perhaps a ok sportcaster, but Shannon is magic
Crazy that SAS and Sharpe just started working together. Their chemistry is off the charts 😂😂😂
They need to make this an every day occurrence…
Shannon works well with a white counterpart.
Far better than him and skip, and I thought that they were great together also. But these two are magical together
@@mactiny274NAH SKIP AND SHANNON WERE BETTER
They funny asf together, to black people arguing and it's all live It's great fr😂
Wow, an actual MJ / Lebron debate without disrespect and malicious arguments
Amazing what happens when u don't have skip Bayless across from you
It's disrespectful because LeBron is even mentioned in the first place lol.
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@@soulzy3596he’s right Lebron won’t ever pass up MJ as the goat
@@itshihoman be quiet
SAS and Uncle Shay is gold ....Good to see Tim Legs get screen time, dude def is unbiased and good analyst of the game, he's a former player but ain't an old grump
Shannon "You pick you head & lookk at me when I'm talking to you Stephen A"
Stephen A "Shannon you sit up straight & look at me when I'm talking to you"
This was great 🤣🤣🤣
Looking at that, and if any of them were of a different race, would you have thought any different about that?
@@integritys_it1821your so retarted none of us can make this out but just know it's some gas lighting bs 😭😭
@@integritys_it1821 grow up already rookie
😂😂😂😂😂
@@tyreetw So much for your experience and age.
Glad to see Tim Legler back. Great basketball knowledge
With new sets of super white teeth 😬 😂
His stats got me stuck 💀 averaging 7-1-1
@@ImJaspyhow many did you average?
@@da11kingbling bling😊
That man said on National tv that AD won mvp of the finals in the bubble and was the best player. You said great basketball knowledge 😭
The debate that’s gonna last for eternity 🤣🤣🤣
Just wait till Zion drops the honeybuns😈😈😈😈
And victor discovers whey protein 👿👿👿👿👹👹👹👺👺
Nah cap, when LeBon retires the debate is gonna go right back to MJ vs whoever the next face of the league is.
@@bendover3653u definitely smoking that good good.. get off the zaza man
@@bendover3653Nah man heck I even say when he retires the GOAT debate goes more towards Bron
I love these guys together, they are fun to watch😂
This was utterly hilarious, I was laughing the entire segment
yes, because you are a simpleton, you enjoy when people scream at each other and it satisfies you
Me too man
🤦♂️ sounds like WWF/WWE
we gotta put the lebron debate to rest… it would be clear if he was “better than Jordan”
Jordan was a more profound icon.
Jordan was 6-0 on the same team
All the other things said about the Jordan debate, too, like dunk contest DPOY, etc etc
😂 so annoying
@@yasyas618or two people can be very close in talent?
@@von1626 yes they can… many players can have their own unique talents as well.
but nevertheless, the debate is simply due to the two people being very close in talent; which I would still just take as a concession that lebron fans just want to at least elevate him to a “photo-finish” if he is nevertheless #2 all-time
and I think that’s where Stephen A actually hit the nail on the head with that one - that being definitively all-time #2 is just a bitter-sweet SOB; though, he truly has soooo many accolades to fall-back-on, that legit he’s cool with it, especially because people can even delude themselves into beliving he could be #1.
but ya, my opinion of the whole thing is that Jordan is all-time the face of basketball. He is the “babe ruth” (even though he’s WAY more epically famous and successful than babe ruth), and he just did it during a squeaky clean 90s where the control of tv media marketing was so much more potent; vs the weird era Lebron exists in, and this type of debate made possible through the internet, which he has been so guilty of completely feeding into the hype the whole time… I dno
I actually enjoyed this debate. It’s been so long having that kind of debate. Really glad Shannon joined ESPN.
Jordan it's not even close. You guys have been brain washed. Or just don't so research.
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It's definitely Lebron.
@@johnsepulvedacruz6428more rings more accolades better per game averages more impact on the league way better defender and scorer may I continue?
Right
@user-nh8co3fd2o agree with you. Jordan is way superior im from this era 23 years old so I have watched Bron in his prime. But I did research on MJ and it's not even close.
I love Shannon on first take. I didnt think SAS would find someone who could match his energy and entertainment level
And SAS love it too
Legs really does bring some great facts.. Super awesome to see how smart he is and how he thinks outside the box and brings new facts up
what new fact did he bring up?
@@DBZeni ya mama
By far the best episode so far …Tim is holding his own too
Tim lied on Scottie Pippen. Pippen averaged 20 ppg about 3x with the Bulls. Some years 19.
@ChillydontCap Yeah, I wondered why 13 points didnt sound right, thanks.
@@ChillydontCapHe didn’t lie he said after Jordan left the Bulls in 1998 Pippen went to averaging 13 a game which is facts….. Anybody that knows basketball knows Pippen wasn’t a scorer… If you think he’s anywhere near the offensive player Dwayne Wade, Kyrie and AD are then your highly mistaken
@@MINK2393 that’s not what he said. He said Pippen never scored 20 ppg. Which is a flat out lie. I know because of this thing called the internet. Scottie actually averaged over 20 ppg 3x in his career.
@@ChillydontCapYou need to rewatch and pay attention.. Thats not what he said at all your hearing what you wanna hear…. Pippen isn’t a scorer and is no way shape or form the offensive player that Wade, Kyrie and AD are
I’m sorry but Stephen A & Shannon are gold together. Can’t wait for more debates between them especially Lebron/Jordan ones 🤣
lol for real bro
It's funny AF whole him and Skip felt like a real argument plus Stephen A doesn't diminish LeBron raise Jordan's legacy up
Idk, maybe it’s just me who feels different. Shannon and Skip had this debate so much that it’s gotten a bit annoying with people debating Jordan vs LeBron
@@lyvinlyphe9644 It's because Skip would always bring up Lebron in regular NBA conversations when the conversation had nothing to do with him. They ended up having so many unnecessary debates about Lebron, whereas this topic is actually Lebron vs Jordan lol.
@@lyvinlyphe9644 yea it’s jus u if u dnt like then dnt watch goofy
These 3 somehow made a MJ and Bron debate in 2023 entertaining 😂😂
Agreed!
this is what ive been waiting for ... love these two..congrats stephen and shannon this is box office you two are hilarious
😂😂😂 I couldn’t stop laughing at this GOAT Debate, they definitely had fun with it
That impression at 1:58 was spot on 😂😂😂😂
it’s gonna be 2050 and we’ll still be having this never ending conversation
Wemby might be the GOAT by then
@@bkelly625he might, but we gotta wait until at least his 10th season to determine that
@@bkelly625Nikola Jokic and Luka Doncic are better
@@JaySwavomore than 10 seasons...
But that's only an illution. When you go beyond the numbers and simple watch the game and see who acompliahed more in less period of time... The asnwer is obvious. Lebron's career is soo impressive mostly because his longevity. If it wasn't for his longevity, if him and Mike both had 15 seasons, when you compare Jordan's 15 seasons and Lebron's 15 seasons, you understand how far Lebron James is from Jordan. Jordan in his 15 seasons had 6 championships, Lebron in his 15 seasons had half as many😭😭🤣, Jordan in his 15 seasons had 6 Finals MVPs, Lebron only had 3. Jordan had 5 MVPs, Lebron had 4. Now, only with these 3 segments Jordan is ON ANOTHER LEVEL FROM LBJ, and than when you add Jordan's 10 scoring titles compating to Lebron's 1, when you compare Jordan's 9 first defensive teams comparing to Lebron's 5, when you compare Jordan's 3 stealing titles to Lebron's 1 assist title... That gab is huge. So that's I'm talking about, now when you add Lebron's 20 seasons some people think they might've been close, but when you at the context... It's only an illution and Jordan is the clear GOAT of this sport.
SAS starts his debate by saying others are offended by him having Lebron 2nd, and proceeds to get offended that MJ could be 2nd
cause it really is MJ did way more in less time! Mj was the goat before he scored 18000 career pts!
@@noleyestoad4477MJ had better circumstances and that’s factual. Jordan’s teams were far better than the field in his runs. James played against juggernauts.
@@lord4806 no MJ was the circumstance and no they were not better they had the best player which was MJ stop being foolish thats why scootie never won anything without mike! he MJ retired scottie couldnt even avg.20ppg just stop! If the Bulls was all that without MJ why they lose and scottie quit on them and didnt want to go in the game!
If the bulls face the warriors with with kd they wouldn’t of won in 2017 2018 lebron faced more competition in the finals Michael faced more competition getting to the finals
It's because LeBron has done nothing to pass Jordan & people Lowered Standards for LeBron. Every LeBron argument REQUIRES Compromise. LeBron is below 40% CAREER shooting past 3 feet! That alone disqualifies him
Shannon: “Look at me in my eye when I’m talking to”
5 mins later…
“Stephen A”: SIT UP WHEN IM TALKING TO YOU😂😂😂😂
Legs: "it's a 2 man conversation"
Unk: "yeah.. and my guy ain't 2" 😂😂...
I'm so HYPE FOR THIS SEASON
@KobeKobe-rq3jk The 2-man convo should be between MJ and Kareem. Kareem gets disrespected too much.
@KobeKobe-rq3jkwade never said that…u kobe fans just be making stuff up and take everything to the extreme🤣
Yeah… if Shannon’s guy ain’t #2 that means one of 2 rings:
- MJ is his guy not LeBron
- LeBron is outside the top 2 cuz MJ is set in stone as #1
@@jps0583 he didn’t say that exactly word for word but he said he saw that him and LeBron needed to team up to accomplish what Kobe did with that lakers team cuz they couldn’t do what Kobe did if they were on separate teams. He said he called up LeBron right after Kobe won. And no Pau Gasol is nowhere near the level of D Wade, Pau is close to Bosh but even Bosh I’d take over Pau lol
@@joesanthosh5315 wade is also on record multiple times b4 this saying that the Celtics were the reason they teamed up…but ofc y’all wanna listen to wade now bc it has to do with kobe🤣and I honestly don’t know how y’all pulled Lebron into this…nowhere in the clip of wade saying he called Lebron does it indicate lebrons state of mind for joining Miami…Lebron is literally on record saying the reason y he joined is bc of boston…if u don’t believe me he said it in a post game interview after they beat boston in 2011…and maybe the reason Lebron and wade couldn’t beat boston is bc they didn’t have pau gasol on their team🤷🏽♂️just another example of kobe fans taking everting to the extreme to glorify kobe
This is TOP TIER ENTERTAINMENT!!! ESPN done messed around a got a 50-point triple double with these 2. This NBA season gonna be one for the ages 🔥🔥🔥
This is already one of the few classic debates between these two😂
This is 🔥🔥🔥 this is like a back yard cookout argument 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 love the energy right here ✅🗣
Stephen A’s face when Legler said he’s on Lebrons side is GOLD. These sections are GREAT
"nobody was near MJs level when he played" .. ya that just shows how ass the league was.
@@TheGoatLockerThe league wasn’t ass, their teams just didn’t have Michael Jordan on them
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m the 90's era was trash.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m At halftime in the Bulls Sonics finals, Larry Bird said the league expansion (adding six teams) had really hurt the league. Magic agreed. The league put 90 players into the league that couldn't make it before. And Doctor J joined with both in saying their best team could beat the 72 win Bulls.
Because the Bulls couldn't match up with their front lines. Who did the Bulls get to replace Jordan? A journeyman player they brought up from the old G League, Pete Myers. Myers played all 82 games, starting 81.
The league wasn't ass. It just shows his pure dominance.
I never knew I needed This duo 😂😂😂 they’re hilarious
Stephen A and Shannon might be one of the greatest duos of all time and it’s only been 3 months 😂😂😂
It’s not even been 2 months, what you mean? Lol
@@rich5950 Black math, we round up we coming up on 3 months. this duo started in august and its almost November.
@@jtsbonetemplestarted sept 4 lol so he’s right but its all good no big deal you still right about them being a great duo
No: west & Baylor are the greatest duo of all time!
9:11 If the NBA was the music world, Michael Jordan = Michael Jackson, Kobe Bryant = Prince, and LeBron James = Rick James!!! 💯
Im so glad espn got Shannon lmao this debate was hilarious! 🤣🤣🤣 “Pick ya head up Stephen A” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fr...i lost it when he said that. 😂😅
The fact that Lebron has 2 stages of his career, and both parts can qualify as hall of fame careers. Truly impressive
Kareem does as well
@@jay3253 very true.
most of these high lv players have that, kobe, jordan, bill, kareem
@@kai6952nope....mj was trash after their last championship....same with kobe whos team lakers were dead last after last championship....those older folks simply played a very very inexperienced therefore weak era
@@jay3253no one cares about Kareem he played plumbers
I mean you have young guys coming up calling Paul George their GOAT. At least Giannis picked someone who’s actually in the discussion.
Literally everyone has there goat you like who you like
That is still wild to me. Paul George!!! That's crazy.
@@tylerwest3161 Thank you for pointing out everyone has "their" own GOAT Captain Obvious.
Allen Iverson is my Goat 🐐
We all live in our own reality. That’s a fact. Based off our own perception.
@ProvenHueMan no that's based off of stupidity. You can try to frame it otherwise but there is a difference between saying someone is your goat and saying someone is my favorite player of all time.
MJ is a not a 5x Finals MVP. He is a 6x Finals MVP Stephen A
The Look Up and the Sit Up 😂😂 had me on the floor
Chemistry between the two off the roof 😁
These young people who only grew up in the LeBron era are not worth explaining history to!!! Young people always believe they are swing something new!
I love the chemistry of Shannon and Stephen. I laughed so hard at this clip. This is classic barbershop talk. I don't like it, I looooove it.
Been waiting in anticipation for these debates and this did not disappoint 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is just the beginning 😂😂
I am a huge Kobe fan and had planned to name one of my sons after him (my wife was not going for it). Michael Jordan, on the other hand, is the greatest basketball player I've ever seen. Not only was he extremely gifted, but the guy was amazingly entertaining, even as a child growing up in a Knicks household. You despised him, but he was beyond great. I'm purple and gold forever, but to me, LeBron is a great player who has lasted longer. Even though Emmitt Smith is the all-time leading rusher, I don't think he was better than Barry Sanders. You can see the talent difference between the two, and that's how I view both Michael and LeBron.
LMAO Unc Shannon really mouthed “Goat man Goat man yeah that’s him”
At the 6 second mark of the video!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭
5:57 LOL at Stephen A’s face when Tim said “Here’s why I’m with LeBron.”
😂😂 that had me dying
He ain’t even let bro finish his statement lmaooo
Somebody meme that face!!! 😅
This 'debate' will never end 😂
At this point it’s pointless to argue people are gonna have their guy and that’s it 😂
this will end once lebron retire , then the next cycle will be MJ vs Jokic, MJ vs Giannis , the next best thing will be compared to MJ
@@joeymannyyou keep telling yourself that. when Lebron retires it will be the rest vs Lebron not Mj
@@kashmxney631 maybe if rich paul will do the comparison, otherwise its still MJ
@Apocalypse2031lol
The teams lebron has faced in the finals are far superior than the teams MJ faced. Excluding the Mavericks. That’s the only knock against Lebron
4:36 "He the reason y'all know about basketball in Greece" 💯🤣 UNc had to smile at that one
So much humor, passion, and intensity in this debate.
They know what makes good tv
There nothing funny about Shannon repeating the same bullshit about a dude that’s not on Jordan’s level
@dark_knight_3304 respectfully disagree bro
The disrespect Scottie get is ridiculous!! No Scottie no chips!!
No Wade, Allen, Irving and Mickie Mouse 👎 0 Championship
@@westrubio1 Lebron is playyyyyy better teams though lol so of course it will be harder for him to win chips Jordan fans are actually stuipid.
@@lilpamper2365lebron also swipe 2x by Old spurs and young denver, thats how difficult IT is lol
@lilpamper2365
Stupid? Did LBJ face the Bad Boys? He formed Boys teams and lost with a superuser in the Finals...TWICE!
The disrespect Lebron teammates get is downright sad.
Definitely give Lebron his flowers as a close 2nd imo, but MJ is the goat. This debate is like the one of Muhammad Ali vs Floyd Mayweather. Some might argue Floyd is the best boxer of all time because he’s undefeated. But what Ali meant to a generation and beyond, how he won, his fighting spirit makes him the goat. There really is no wrong answer it’s really about who inspired you the most
It’s actually funny that as football player Shannon’s basketball takes are the more classic ones 😂
Shannon always shows love for Lebron.
He was wearing a goat mask when he was on the show with Skiiiiiiip.
Shannon does not play when it comes to the research
@@72Dexter72Manley72I miss the GOAT Mask😢
as a handegg player*, and his takes are the more stupid ones
This was one of the best and funniest first take segments in a LONG time. I cracked up so many different times throughout the segment and appreciated everyones contributions to it. Even Josh Boyd 😂
SAS and Unc really are box office together
Yes I totally agree!!! This was amazing lol!
Leggler laughing at the end😂Dude was just as entertained as the rest of us.
Thats actually pretty wild to say for a current player rival 2-time MVP and champion. Shows how dominant and how long Lebrons been at it. Many of the best players literally grew up watching Lebron as fans.
Lebron been losing for a long time
@@TimothyGray-o3dlosing lmao ? Dudes been breaking record after record, most people respect the dude, even the legends, then here comes mj meat riders who wants to downplay lebrons legacy just because lebron gets compared to mj. Mj is my goat, but it’s dumb to try to act like lebron don’t deserve to be compared against mj
But the difference remains Jordan gone be compare to the best of every era since he paved the way for modern basketball
No one grew up idolizing even kids today will still look at MJ no cap. Players today many many of them was inspired by MJ and still cooking ( Curry, Bron, KD, Dame, DB, JT, Antman, Mitchell, Klay Thompson, Ja Morant the list goes on and on)
@stevenwalton1586 Liar. Majority of those guys didnt grow up watching MJ.
Y’all can’t tell me Shannon didn’t practice his Stephen A impression all day 😂😂😂
Giannis mentioned Lebron personal life as well. He seems to have done a great job all around in life.
Is it just me, or has everybody been wanting Shannon and Stephen A have this debate? Like fr, all the time? I can watch these two have this the debate all date. Every since Shannon was on undisputed I have been wanting these two too have this debate on live television. Even on his podcast, it was dope to see. Great stuff!!!
Stephen a and Shannon is hilarious bruh 😂😂😂😂
The ending had me crying “ its a two man conversation but he aint two”
Haha so true. 😅🤣💯
The psychology of Shannon acknowledging how Stephen A lowered his voice saying prince is mind blowing and accurate
Because Prince and mj is more of a debate than mj and Lebron lol
@@marcusb.1482 This just isn't as clever a response as you think. The first time the Goat debate was brought up over 10 years ago, it was stupid. To act like it's not a legit debate now is to ignore all of the context and just make surface level arguments. When the man is showing that on any given night he can still be the best player on the floor at 39, you don't acquit yourself by just pretending the debate is laughable. The thing that makes the debate so compelling IMO is the difference in style of the players. The irony is that the people who love MJ are the type that would hate to work with such a shitty team player at their work. They would complain about the arrogant prick they work with, but love MJ's "killer" personality or "Mamba" mentality even if they shit on others around them. LeBron is the guy that makes everyone better and makes everyone look better while giving them the credit when asked. He's the ideal teammate and co-worker, but people hate that in a sports guy.
Obviously people will hate LeBron for his political activism and outspokenness on certain topics, but if we limit it to just basketball (which is borderline impossible nowadays) it's a worthwhile debate and much closer than fixed mindset Jordan supporters will ever admit it is.
@@robertdouth8979 it’s not lol… Jordan accomplished more in way less time… the only reason it’s a “debate” is because Lebron has Jordan on longevity… he was able to sustain his great level of play longer than Jordan was… but if that’s the measuring stick we’re using John Stockton is the goat point guard over Magic 🤷♂️
@@marcusb.1482casual 😂
@@marcusb.1482 lmao Lebron would achieve more if he was battling with plumbers
This one of the best segments ever on First Take😂😂
This duo is going to be hard to beat. SAS and SS with Legler in the middle. They are a joy to watch on TV!!
These two need there own show😅😂
They do????
Nah Fr thooo🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
AYO at 6:53 when shannon looks around and swivels in his chair HAS ME DEAD 💀💀😭😭😭 WHY DID ESPN WAIT SO LONG FOR THIS SEGMENT
His high pitch voice yelling Goat 😂
Shannon Sharpe and Stephen A chemistry is godlike
I have been waiting on pins and needles for someone to finally talk about the GOAT conversation.
This is only the beginning of the GOAT debate Stephen A and Shannon are gonna be having all throughout this NBA season. They're just getting started.
Especially this is the Year LeBron James is getting his Last Rings before fly Off The Sunset as we Speak.
@@jamesnelson5618blud is not getting another ring 😭
As someone who has MJ the GOAT, I hate Stephen A bringing up the same talking points when there’s so many other angles or reasons he could bring up 💀
those are just the ones that shouldnt even make it a debate thats the point!
That's cause lebron own them angles he can't debate that just the angles that's greater than lebron
@@perrywashup5168yet Jordan is ahead of LeBron in every analytical stat🤷🏿♂️
@@KingJomirwell that’s just not true😂😂not sure why you felt the need to lie.
@@raymondsims7042 MJ stans are delusional. The only gap between them is how competent their FO was. Jordan only faced a top 10 player All Time in the Finals 1x and Lebron did it 7x.
You can tell they love having Shannon on the show😂
Stephen A carrying the shield 🛡️ for us MJ fans
@@ian_does_cool_things at all he carrying it high and proud it’s becoming non debatable at this point we all kno jordan the goat
@@kylonp7311GOAT of a watered down NBA after the expansion and conqueror of the old a*s Pistons, Celtics, and Lakers. And people keep forgetting Jordan WAS AROUNF WHEN HAKEEM WON
@@Truthorfib🧢
@@ian_does_cool_things he’s played longer but it doesn’t means it was better he’s played longer but has less rings and mvps and dpoys 😂😂😂😂
@@ian_does_cool_things more triple doubles that leads to Ls dude who gives a fuck about triple doubles if it dnt lead to rings 🤡😂😂😂😂😂
Shannon funny af 😭😂😭😭😭
This GOAT debate is one of the funniest debates i usually listen to.
Once you are in the conversation, it is all about personal preferences and opinion.
How do you say one man has the best resume and not put him as the greatest?
Plus so many other contradictory statements.
At the end, there will never be 💯% consensus because it is a team sports and they will never be compared in the same and exact situation.
cuz its not all about scoring, its about basketball. Bron the most complete basketball player that ever played, easy. But I respect anyone who puts jordan as n1
Of course there will never be 100% consensus. You can't get that with anything.
It is MJ and all the others.
Bill Russell has The Best Basketball Resume of Anyone: 2 NCAA Men's Basketball Championships + 1 Olympic Gold Medal Team USA in The 1960 Summer Olympics + 11 NBA World Championships in 13 NBA Seasons. Neither Lebron, Michael or anyone else is even close.
Stephen A Smith = no basketball experience
Greek Freak = basketball experience
I’ll take the Greek Freak opinion
Love these two debating! It’s actually funny and entertaining. It doesn’t feel hostile at all compared to Skip and Shannon either the goat debate
Give it a yr
U people complain and compare everything just watch and shutup
"i dont give a damn, i dont give a damn" 😂😂😂 Stephen A funny as hell man lmao
You can see all of them having fun. Never seen Legler smile so much in a segment hahah they having fun.
Steve A got me crying an unc he said sit up when I’m talking to u 😂😂😂😂
This is the perfect debate duo 👏👏👏👏👏
5:56 if that's not a look of shock I don't know what else is 😂😂
I live for this debate with Shannon and Stephen A😂😂😂
Gotta say Shannon brought the energy to this channel. Skipp beat less is not the same thing without Shannon cohosting ✨
Unc and SA are seriously the greatest thing to happen to this show lmao 😂 never laughed so hard . Chemistry unmatched lol
I can’t wait for the first time when Stephen A sees Shannon wearing the Goat mask and shouts, “Old Goat James!” 🐐😂
😂😂😂 yes!
Bruhh I’m wait when that happens when it does I’m going be laughing my butt off 😂😂😂
Hehe😃😄👌
This LeBron v MJ debate is 100x more entertaining than anything that Skip and Shannon did together.
Even First Take with max Kellerman and Nick wright and first thing first show.
Shannon was loud and obnoxious and would shout over skip, Stephen A ain't afraid to call out this bs.
Name 10 players in the 90’s better than KD or Steph
Don’t be mad Stephen A 🤣🤣 don’t let the insecurities show
😂 Here come the old heads who needa ice they knees, they not gon’ like this one.
Freaking funny stuff man, the SAS/Sharpe dynamic, brilliant 😂😂
Not allowing a finals series to get to a game 7 is crazy
Yea those bulls TEAMS were fire, certainly wasn’t just one man
Bulls superteam was buult different.
Yeah, Scottie Pippen was really underrated and had been sidelined because of Jordan.
@@sammy_trix it's obvious who is the Leader of that Bulls team. Does anyone saying Irving and Love, Wade and Bosh and now Davis being under rated when a lot of guys knew James was the leader of those team?
@@dx5garu234 Sure. But you cannot say that Bulls is not a good team and it is all just Jordan.
In life there 3 things certain: death, taxes and Stepth A debating with Shannon Sharpe on ESPN about the goat debate every week.
Even tho Shannon is a former football he is at his best talking about basketball! This is how he made a name for himself in media.
There are more player driven debates in basketball than football. It’s just a more fun sport to debate
We skipping over that jabron line 😂😂😂
This was so entertaining. Thank you for finally bring on Shannon!
Against today’s NBA talent, Luke Witte could be the GOAT
Lmao at Shannon mimicking Stephen A 😂😂😂😂