72v 12000w Enduro Ebike 5 Pros and 5 Cons

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  • Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024

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  • @ernstheimlich7257
    @ernstheimlich7257 3 года назад +14

    Nice summary, and basically the same conclusions as I have. Best to keep a sleeper bike on the side for trips downtown.

  • @jfeliciano15
    @jfeliciano15 3 года назад +8

    Love this video Brother, I did this build as well and you are spot on with the weight problem lol. I went with the QS 12000W motor mounted on a Tusk Impact Rim - Rear 36 Spoke Hole, 19 x 2.15, Shinko Dual Sport 705 Series Tire (110/80-19TL Bias), 72V 28ah molicel 21700 battery and a sabvoton 72200 plug and play controller. Up front a DNM USD8 fork, DNM rear mono shock, Deity Skywire 35 Handlebar and the same XOD brake system with floating disk/rotors. This thing is super fun on the NYC streets and it feels like it's perfect for these crappy NYC roads lol. I'm actually $4200 into my build but thats because I decided to change the controller that came with this kit (Sabvoton 72150) plus went and swapped the rear rim for the wider tusk rim and upgraded the spokes and also purchased the set of shinko tires. I also went with the motor cross seat and had to drill new mounting holes to drop the height of the seat (way to high for me at 5.9"). Totally happy with the end result. Good luck and thanks again for the info on your video. Btw check out a couple of beasts I just introduced to NY, the only 2 that exist outside of South Korea, Oh yeah I'm the loud mouth introducing it lol.
    ruclips.net/video/XAGf84NPjFs/видео.html

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  3 года назад +2

      That bike sounds awesome man, yeah same problem with the hight I am 5/8 LOL. That scooter is incredible!

  • @marcr-g610
    @marcr-g610 2 года назад +6

    Battery portability is, and has always been a massive factor for me, living in cities, even in towns, its just not plausible to bring a monster truck through your front door to plug in for charging..

  • @shawnsebikesandstuff15
    @shawnsebikesandstuff15 3 года назад +8

    I have the Enduro frame like yours been using it for 3 and 1/2 years a little over 22,000 miles it's definitely the most efficient for long trips but definitely two e-bikes are the way to go . The enduros that are selling for $3,000 or so don't have a qs v3 or a large savoton controller or a battery as large as yours or mine I have a 12 p 18 ass LG mj1 battery pack I can clear a hundred miles at 25 mph on a charge without pedaling my chain fell off eight thousand miles ago so I can't cheat 😂😂😂 your videos are cool like what you do keep tearing it up.

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  3 года назад +2

      Thank you! Wow 20,000 miles that is crazy!

    • @sots8740
      @sots8740 3 года назад +2

      @@samjohnson517 12000w should equal to 87mph 140kmh ?

    • @tonymckee148
      @tonymckee148 2 года назад +1

      22000 miles ... damnnn how many times have you changed out the battery or bought a new one.... i got just under 5000 miles on mines..just wondering how long will the battery last ...i know they said 800 to 1000 cycles which i have 109 cycles...and i commute to work in the summer time

    • @shawnsebikesandstuff15
      @shawnsebikesandstuff15 2 года назад +2

      I have the ant BMS having that set right and because my battery is a 3.2 kilowatt I hardly ever top charge it LG mj1 are probably the most reliable battery made for consumers but with only a 10 amp discharge that's why I have 12 in parallel everyday use I pull $130 amps every time I twist the throttle but I also have a 180 amp setting that I toggle over to so I beat the batteries a little bit there but make up for it by not top charging all the time I expect another 40,000 MI I'll get out of them but that's about 6 years away 😂😂

    • @tonymckee148
      @tonymckee148 2 года назад +1

      @@shawnsebikesandstuff15 damn i wish i knew what yo were talking about....but i do top my battery off every time i charge it... i have the 12,000 watt 72 v 48ah 150 sabaton controller ....i just wanted to know this because you say you have 22,000 miles on ya bike .. without changing your battery or anything...i know nothing about these batteries

  • @done3960
    @done3960 2 года назад +3

    Always remember: At the end of the day, it's time to go to bed.
    Excellent video. Super informative and well thought out. Uses a truthful, down-to-earth (dirt-e pon intended) presentation style most RUclips videographers should emulate (if they were indeed honest). Thank you, Sam J.

  • @MoniJohnson
    @MoniJohnson 2 года назад +6

    I'm loving mine. I've had four ebikes and my Enduro replica is by far my favorite. It's definitely heavy and inconvenient though.

  • @floydb9100
    @floydb9100 Год назад +1

    4:59 looking great! Hope to catch some new uploads from you soon!

  • @svecphoto_com
    @svecphoto_com 2 года назад +1

    I use similiar ebike 2 years. Truth well told. All in all its awesome!

  • @peewee41055
    @peewee41055 3 года назад +11

    Awesome videos! I bought a super73 s2 than bought a Onyx a few months later. The Onyx is fun and has double the torque but the super73 is way lighter and a way better turn radius. My buddy bought a s2 as well so when we go riding I take the s2. Its no R or Rx but its still fun to rip through the local golf courses paths!

  • @ebikeandtechnerd5608
    @ebikeandtechnerd5608 Год назад

    I just got my 72v 5000w Stealth Bomber enduro e bike. Has plenty of power. This thing is super fun to drive. I got 90 miles off one full charge!!

  • @GemCityGypsy
    @GemCityGypsy 2 года назад +1

    just took my rcr on its first ride today this thing is dope im so glad i decided to get the 41ah battery when the original 23 didnt work after sitting for a year

  • @ENDOPRYSMyt
    @ENDOPRYSMyt 2 года назад +4

    I finished my bike a week ago. The speed is absolutely insane. And for having such small brakes it slowes down pretty well to.

  • @aog8202
    @aog8202 Год назад +1

    Great video, do you happen to know of any bike’s similar to this one that would be slightly more under the radar, but would still have the speed and range?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  Год назад

      Thank you for watching, no I sure don't I think part of the problem is that when you get to this speed and power you need battery and compartment so large that it's hard to be incognito

  • @oze-bikes4life663
    @oze-bikes4life663 3 года назад +5

    Good Build & Video, I love my Enduro Ebike build too, biggest con for me is the turning circle, on sealed roads its alot less noticeable but on tight twisty dirt trails where I ride 99.9% of the time, it's got quite a large turning circle compared to a regular mtb. But saying that my (Mid-drive BBSHD) Enduro E-Bike build has many more pros than cons.
    Thanks for Sharing your Upload 😊🙏👍👌

    • @boxlid214
      @boxlid214 3 года назад +2

      Yeah man, that's what makes it so stable at high speed though, you wouldn't want it so twitchy at 60mph, riding hardtail mtb's at 30+ mph down hills gets a little scary lol. It's best compared to a tour bike's geometry, long wheelbase and stable as hell for easy cruising

  • @qwantumijo
    @qwantumijo 3 года назад +1

    Sam you are smart man. It's nice to listen to you.

  • @xpndblhero5170
    @xpndblhero5170 3 года назад +1

    Nice but how much did it cost¿?
    Edit: I feel like if you get a good controller you can adjust the settings and get more torque... I'd say that Kelly controllers would be a best choice for adjustability.

  • @lukewalker1051
    @lukewalker1051 2 года назад +1

    Terrific review. Everything you wrote makes great sense. Will give you a counterpoint which may make you giggle a bit. I want to say, you are a thoughtful man who really understands the nuance of 'one size fitting all'. One size does not fit all as you explain.
    I come from the world of performance cycling as in the lycra dude who can ride a carbon roadbike 25 mph with no motor. In other words, faster than most can ride a bicycle and not as fast as famous people. I'm aging and getting injured more by doing big watts on the bikes trying to keep up with the young guns so decided to build a real fast drop bar roadbike to use for recovery riding. 1500w BBSHD motor, 52V battery. This bike is king among roadbikes. I haven't seen a faster ebike in my town. I haven't seen a bike like you have which is much faster than mine. I can drop a professional cyclist on my ebike. Most elite amateurs cannot hold 30 mph for long on a bicycle. My ebike will do 40 mph. 28mm wide tires. It looks like a road bike. Many don't notice. My bike is black and the big battery kind of blends in. Its quiet. Its a blast.
    But...but...what you said. My bike is the opposite of yours. One size doesn't fit every occasion. Problem with my bike is riding it fast on the road on less than perfect road surfaces which is common. It beats me up when the road gets just slightly bumpy because those bumps at higher speed on a stiff skinny tired road bike really assault the frame and rider. Higher force/deflection. A dropbar roadbike with 28mm wide tires isn't meant for sustained speeds over 30mph. So I am looking for a bike a bit more like yours. But...but again, your bike is 200 lbs. I want to build a bike maybe 80 lbs with wider lower pressure tires and front suspension at least. Probably a hub motor. What we are talking about is 'finding Goldilocks'. Goldilocks as it turns out is elusive.
    For a bike more like yours getting into the 200 lb range or 300 lb range, I am likely going to go gas and ride it mostly on the street. 300 cc's or a bit bigger. 80mph min. top speed. More suspension. Stronger frame than what you have. Better brakes. Lights, turn signals, no pedals, more supportive seat. I am not going to part out my motorized roadbike that transforms me into superman on the bike. Its too much fun. My ebike weighs about 40 lbs....20 lbs for the bike and 20 lbs for the battery and motor. I can pick it up easily and I am no longer young. I can even still maneuver a 80 lb ebike. Your bike although very cool is a little heavier than what I want. But no question, the power of your bike, suspension to take the speed...what a hoot it much be to ride.
    Thanks for sharing your perspective and teaching us how to build a cool bike like you have.

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад +1

      Hello thank for watching, that road bike sounds like a lot of fun it must surprise a lot of people. I am keeping my eyes open for an aluminum or chromoly steel tube style frame design I feel it would be much lighter and stronger than this flat steel type frame.

  • @rolandroland1485
    @rolandroland1485 6 месяцев назад +1

    7:35 is the exact reason I went with the cs20 and the 17” wheel eventho I am 6”3, easier to take upstairs and load into my highlander …. The cs20 is the lighter frame since IT’s aluminum
    I got a 5000/8000w motor, fardriver 150a and 50ah Samsung cells 200a BMS battery shipped to NY for 3100$ …. Very excited!!!! But I have to wait 50 days 😭

  • @FlyingFun.
    @FlyingFun. 3 года назад +1

    Best ebike for me is 3,
    1 fast hub drive like an enduro.
    2 mid drive mountain bike.
    3 small folding ebike.
    I have all 3 but the one I use the most is mid drive because it's mostly riding for fun off road.

    • @ferguson8143
      @ferguson8143 Год назад

      Yeah I love my mid drive and take it over a loud hub motor

  • @ianmangham4570
    @ianmangham4570 2 года назад +1

    The forks are beautiful, looks like a future jump stunt bike, it doesn't get any better for a fun machine

  • @Nigol66
    @Nigol66 2 года назад +2

    3 months ago I bought the 72V 12,000W Enduro for $4,400 because of a few minor mods. Maybe the price has gone up? It's supposed to be off the west coast on a ship right now and here next week by Fedex. We'll see. I feel like I've been waiting forever. I'm only 150lbs so I'm expecting to hit the 60 to 70mph.... but more importantly I'm hoping for decent range. I hope to get over 60 miles on a full charge. Part of my upgrade is the 5 levels of pedal assist.... I'll definitely be pedaling as much as I can. I also added the alarm, key fob, front and rear lights and GPS tracker.

    • @heroryan7859
      @heroryan7859 2 года назад

      I want to do the same. How is it?

    • @Nigol66
      @Nigol66 2 года назад +2

      @@heroryan7859 It arrived 2 days ago. I paid for it on Sept 6th! When they've built the bike (in China) they send you photos and a short video of your bike so you can see it and approve it. Pretty cool, but then they take it to pieces again which makes no sense. It arrived in 4 boxes so I spent 6 hours in my garage putting it back together. I had contacted Enduro last month and they said when it arrives you only have to install the front forks and front wheel and connect the battery. Nope. I had to - install front fork and front wheel, attach the front brake caliper and cable, attach handle bar, front light, front horn/alarm, pedals, seat, rear lights, install battery and connect all the wiring which is color coded. The battery was super heavy and a really tight fit into the bike. You get no instructions, Enduro said 'watch the videos on our website' but IMO they're not very good. Important point - the battery had 71% charge when I put the bike together and when I connected the charger it wouldn't charge. I contacted Enduro and they said the charger might be set to 220V??? There's tiny pink switch that you need to flick to 110V! You need a screw driver because the switch is inside the charger housing, but easy to switch to 110V . I just wish I'd known that if they'd provided instructions. Due to bad weather where I live I only rode 1 mile yesterday LOL and the bike scared the crap out of me! It's way too fast. This is a motorbike! I've had 3 gas motorbikes in the past and this ebike is way faster on acceleration. Once it's moving at say 5mph it takes off. I advise putting the power assist on manual and set it to level 1. I had it on auto and when I turned the throttle I flew down the road! It was terrifying, I didn't expect that kind of acceleration. It's like driving a Tesla, the power is right there. I'm also wearing a DOT motorcycle helmet (pudding bowl style). Be safe! I'll get use to the power and I know it's going to be awesome. $4300 is a lot of money but this is a lot of bike. I'll be using it to visit friends and the odd trips to the store for a few items. Oh, I like the key fob which controls the lock/alarm - it's very loud, the horn too. Let me know if you have other questions. 👍

    • @tankdome37
      @tankdome37 2 года назад

      @@Nigol66 which company did you use from china, and how long did it take for it to come in?

  • @rickvassell8349
    @rickvassell8349 3 года назад +2

    I have Leili coming, sitting off shore right now. It will compliment Hyperscorpion nicely.

    • @rickvassell8349
      @rickvassell8349 2 года назад +1

      My 72v 12k Leili came, it's a blast. Still holding onto the Hyperscorpion too.

  • @kevinduprey9326
    @kevinduprey9326 2 месяца назад

    That new mantis bike for 3k is 😧 crazy... Could you build it for that as consumer? And its known brand... Maybe this will force other companies to compete... I would love to build my own but that rrar mantis is tempting... It will get police attention tho... Love your content 👍

  • @brycelarson3347
    @brycelarson3347 2 года назад

    Riding hard offroad on zoom forks 💀. This guy is insane. Great video.

  • @Lawraven
    @Lawraven 2 года назад +2

    The video was extremely helpful to me. I ended up buying one of these (pre-made) from ENDURO ebikes after a small windfall of cash. I looked at every other manufacturer of these enduro-style ebikes and just kept coming back to ENDURO based on their cost effectiveness and many build options on their website. Everything else was thousands more expensive and less powerful with seemingly fewer options. And since I only want it for short commutes, light trails and weekend rides this just made sense. Thanks for your time and effort to make this video.

    • @codezalo5773
      @codezalo5773 2 года назад

      I go to the Eduro bikes site where are the other models ? Which one did you get? If you can share your experience!

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад +1

      Hello I built mine, I did not buy one from Enduro ebikes

    • @codezalo5773
      @codezalo5773 2 года назад +1

      @@samjohnson517 oh i see i was checking out your build video ! I was thinking of getting a surron again but something interested me about this stealth builds, just need to digest more info about parts and as you say, those which fit my liking n needs

  • @MrBigbert09
    @MrBigbert09 Год назад

    I was told by Enduro that I couldn't have a colour screen on my 8000 w . But I see you have a more powerful bike . Where can I get a colour screen for mine? Thanks

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  Год назад

      That is strange, the website shows the 8000w bike with a color screen maybe they are out of them or something I'm not sure.

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  Год назад

      Keep in mind the wattage is going to be determined pretty much by the battery only so the 5000w e-bike with the 72 volt 150 amp battery they sell will have over 11000 watts using the 150 amp controller of course.

  • @AbcAbc-k3u9x
    @AbcAbc-k3u9x Год назад

    Hey buddy! I am looking into buying one of these of alibaba. What is the dimension of the tyres in this video? Im assuming 26", but the width?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  Год назад +1

      Hello they are size 2.75 x 19

    • @AbcAbc-k3u9x
      @AbcAbc-k3u9x Год назад

      ​@@samjohnson517 Ok! the zoom fork is still able to be used with those tires? I asked a vendor in alibaba and they said that they will change to KKE shocks in that case (if not using the default 26*2.6)
      Do you know the difference/pros/cons between the KKE vs. zoom ?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  Год назад

      @@AbcAbc-k3u9x hello the tire is shinko 241 it works with the zoom fork on my 19 inch motorcycle wheels, the diameter is pretty close to a 26-inch bicycle tire as far as the comparison between zoom and kke I cannot tell you I have never used kke probably going to be similar to the DNM which stands for does not move lol all of these cheap forks are what they are so if you want good quality forks you're going to have to spend some money or deal with the locking up and noise issues and everything that goes along with them but you can always upgrade later

  • @zeitgeist888
    @zeitgeist888 2 года назад

    How tall is the seat height? Can the bike be lowered through suspension and smaller tire/wheel combo for more street oriented use?

  • @tankdome37
    @tankdome37 2 года назад +1

    I order the 72v 56ah, 15000w around two weeks ago! I purchased it from the Chung Electric from China

    • @heidismith294
      @heidismith294 2 года назад

      That on Alibaba? Want the same but can't find a us dealer an have heard horror stories about the shipping costs an customs fees

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад +1

      Yes go to Alibaba, if you search for 5000 watt e-bike motor kit, you should run across the dealer called ncycle bike that's who I used, they were excellent. No issues, and the kit came pre-tested so I didn't have to do anything but plug it in.

    • @tommest9934
      @tommest9934 Год назад

      How long it tolk to ship

    • @tankdome37
      @tankdome37 Год назад

      @@tommest9934 2 months

    • @tommest9934
      @tommest9934 Год назад

      @@tankdome37 I think they trying to trick me using ups shipping .

  • @robertjohn8050
    @robertjohn8050 2 года назад

    I've got the same bike as you, could you tell me what a few of your settings are so I can get my bike right
    System
    Auto assist ?
    The option for pedal throttle or both option disappeared I'd like to get that back on my display.
    Advanced settings
    I'd like to know what all the settings are?
    Any help would be appreciated

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      Sure are there some specific settings you're looking for?

  • @StephaneGirard-tennis
    @StephaneGirard-tennis Год назад

    Hello and many thanks for your videos that gave me the idea to build my own. One question, surely stupid, why are there pedals, chain and else on those models because it is unusefull to make it work. Is it a legal reason so that it is better to look like a bike more than a motorcycle ? Or else ? Thanks a lot and best regards from France 🇫🇷

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  Год назад +1

      Hello and thank you for watching, the pedals are basically footpegs, you never really use them., They are there just to make the bike legal to ride on the road.

  • @lashbay5951
    @lashbay5951 2 года назад

    I am thinking about getting one is it worth it? And is it really 500 Charges to re-charge? Would you recommend it to a Beginner rider, How many miles of long range can you go max? On that 12000w, I been told is can go 60 miles max and top out at 76mph of speed

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад +1

      I think it would be okay for a beginner you could always start out in the lower modes if you needed to as far as range I get about 42 mi and my top speed is 66 mph

    • @lashbay5951
      @lashbay5951 2 года назад

      @@samjohnson517 Thanks Sam for your video, what do you think of this deal I was thinking of getting 2 for my wife and I ? Third party is asking 2,580 here’s the Description:
      72V 12000W Strong Ebike
      1) 19/21 Motorcycle tire/Turtle tire
      2) SW900 LCD Display/ Can upgrade
      to Color UKC1 Display
      3) KKE Front Fork
      4) KKE Rear Shock
      5) Bicycle Seat/ Can upgrade to Motorcyle
      seat
      6) Sabvoton 150A controller
      7) 72V 45ah EVE cells lithium battery with
      a 5A charger
      8) Tektro Hydraulic brake HD-E500
      9) Half-Twist Throttle
      10) Front light
      11) Rear light with indicator and horn
      12) PAS
      Max Speed 120-130km/h, Mileage 113km
      Also do you think max speed is 80mph?

    • @jsmmao
      @jsmmao 2 года назад

      @@lashbay5951 that’s a great deal. I paid that for 8k watt motor and same spec. Did you end up orderinf

  • @DanXRojas
    @DanXRojas 2 года назад +1

    I’m buying this bike and a juiced hyperscrambler 2 next month

  • @lee-tx5mw
    @lee-tx5mw Год назад +1

    nice video very informative .im building an enduro but realise its not going to be my everyday comute convenient bike so ill be keeping my 52v 2000w aluminium full air suspension bike its fast does 40mph easy but light .but ive now bought a third bike its in the middle tbh its a full sespension downhill bike with huge travel suspension marzochi super ts .and making it 3000 to with 72 volt so that one might make the enduro redundent tbh .or i keep all 3

  • @katiekumcgil
    @katiekumcgil Год назад

    what we did and alot of others is to toss out the small cover underneath and make a custom alloy of acrylic one that can put the controller in ,weve managed to fit a svmc72150 and a svmc7245 both unlocked versions underneath ,with some strategic trimming of the cases,that way it leaves space for battery i managed to get a 20s by 20p battery and also 82 volt supa capacitor bank inside the frame ,it just took abit of time to work it out ,
    the battery and the controllers are also submersion cooled by 3m novec dilectric fluid ,which makes the battery fire proof

    • @katiekumcgil
      @katiekumcgil Год назад

      the biggest difference was changed sided covers and cut huge amounts of steel out and re welded everything properly in the end weve manage to shave nearly 50% of the weight of the frame when it came in the box.

    • @katiekumcgil
      @katiekumcgil Год назад

      the front motor makes of the mark accelaration ,insane the launch timer connects its throttle signal for 10-15 second till rear is at suffient rpm ,we used bafang 750 on the front and a limited build motor from crystalyte ,itll go close to 100mph top speed ,but not a hope in hell would i try it.

    • @katiekumcgil
      @katiekumcgil Год назад

      im going to make all the electrics plans and pcb files ,and code for electric gear shifters and traction control available for free so people can build themit all runs on a raspberry pi ,with can sheild and can nodes on all accesories and controls

  • @katiekumcgil
    @katiekumcgil Год назад

    also concider getting a shlumf drive like i did ,i found a good second hand one ,and now im actually able to pedal the bike without the motor on,and lets you pedal nearly up to like 70 to 80 kilometers per hour

  • @honda636hp
    @honda636hp 2 года назад

    Wen you ride in city, do you wear a helmet?
    And are you in California.?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      Yes I wear a helmet riding around the city and yes I am in Southern California

  • @toddwilliams9847
    @toddwilliams9847 2 года назад

    Great video 👍, do u have a link for where you ordered your bike

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      Hello I ordered all the parts and then put it together this video has links to the parts that I used
      ruclips.net/video/HZ7lAXzMLag/видео.html

  • @jose-emanuelgoossens3050
    @jose-emanuelgoossens3050 2 года назад

    Do u feel that this bike is heavy?

  • @fortunefiderikumo
    @fortunefiderikumo 3 года назад +1

    Hey does the controller heat not affect your battery, I'm debating whether to mount inside or at the bottom of the frame

    • @eastwood111
      @eastwood111 3 года назад +1

      It’s the other way around. The battery is going to get warmer than the controller. Especially Sabvoton controllers they run really cool

    • @fortunefiderikumo
      @fortunefiderikumo 3 года назад

      @@eastwood111 why would your battery get warmer than your controller?,I don't doubt the sabvotron controllers dissipate heat well but if your battery is producing more heat than your controller then you have a ticking time bomb under you

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  3 года назад

      Ultimately I think it would be better to mount the controller outside so it can get into the air, unless you have some issues with water. The controller does run pretty cool, but I'm considering having some slots cut in the side panels where the controller is mounted.

    • @eastwood111
      @eastwood111 3 года назад

      @@fortunefiderikumo
      You doubt it dissipates heat well how about actual facts. I have many sabvoton controllers and none of them get warm even when pushed to the max. All battery packs get warm under high current regardless of the cells. A warm battery is not a ticking time bomb, excessive heat is a ticking time bomb

    • @fortunefiderikumo
      @fortunefiderikumo 3 года назад

      @@eastwood111 you cant read or what? i said I know the sabvoton controller dissipates heat well

  • @shortattentionspangarage1312
    @shortattentionspangarage1312 2 года назад +1

    Weight and stability at speed are mutually exclusive (most of the time).

  • @paradimespa5686
    @paradimespa5686 Год назад

    Do You have the links to all the parts that go into building the complete bike

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  Год назад

      My Enduro ebike review and Enduro e-bike build videos have them but most of them are expired now because it's been so long

  • @angusmcgil
    @angusmcgil 11 месяцев назад

    you can even get a 20s by 20p battery in there it depends on cell orientation,but youd need to build your own battery

  • @FlyDrone46
    @FlyDrone46 Год назад

    Hi. Please tell me, what size of tires ?

  • @TheGamingChad.
    @TheGamingChad. 2 года назад

    i am very new to e-bikes and thinking whether or not i should buy or build one myself, the Stealth P-7R is a 3.7kw e bike that weights only 63 pounds, has a 100 mile range, and a decent speed of 28 mph, what exactly makes your bike a whopping 3 times heavier?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      Well that's kind of the trade-off between a 3.7 KW 28mph bike and a 12 KW 66mph bike, the larger components the motor the battery and besides that I think I have the heaviest frame on the market so if you build one you could definitely find a lighter frame. But if you want the kind of power like I have you're going to be heavy

    • @TheGamingChad.
      @TheGamingChad. 2 года назад

      @@samjohnson517 what happends if you put a 12000 watt motor on the Stealth P-7R and keep the stock lightweight battery? or that's not how it works?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      @@TheGamingChad. the motor would weight more and the bike would go slower that motor is only a rating it just depends on what you put into it I pump 12,000 Watts through my 5,000 watt motor

    • @TheGamingChad.
      @TheGamingChad. 2 года назад

      @@samjohnson517 how much would the weight difference be between a 8kw e bike compared to a 12kw? also, what happends if you don't install a controller?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      I can't really answer that question there's just too many factors involved starting with the basics your battery puts out the power to the controller the controller takes that power and sends it to the motor, for the most part batteries and motors are heavy so the bigger the motor the bigger the battery the more weight you carry but there our other factors like the type of frame you're using the frame is made out of the forks the wheelsn

  • @burnthedead13
    @burnthedead13 4 месяца назад

    I'm 5'4..could I comfortably ride this?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  4 месяца назад

      @@burnthedead13 I am 5'8 and I am barely flat-footed (both feet flat at a stop ) when it sags from the weight of sitting on it. try a mountain bike with an extra large frame and you'll get an idea. You can ride it it's just that when you stop you're probably going to lean over a little and use one leg to hold it up.

  • @ebperformance8436
    @ebperformance8436 2 года назад +1

    I just ordered the frame…my normal MTB had the shock inside…but was way too high, the drop out was way too small, and reversing the suspension was way too sketchy…I ended up taking the 3000w off the normal EUROBIKE and putting it back together…I do worry of a 27.5 inch will fit the frame…I was gonna cannibalize it, but I have another bike with a Derailer, and crank shaft….I’m gonna put a 1000w kit on it and sell it’ it will be easy to sell due to the looks’ and it will be below &1200.
    The only thing it will be missing is it’s front tire….I will purchase a front wheel drive.
    The stealth bomber frame will be using aftermarket handle bars, fork, suspension, and brakes…make $1200 for the normal euro bike…and purchase a good battery….with money left over to convert a beach cruiser to 750 watts, and sell that for $650.
    I have a buisness in selling gas and electric….but I’m no longer doing gas, there a headache, and no matter how good you do a conversation….a idiot always seem to break them’ I had one guy comeback with a flat tire’ never sell a gas bike to a person who wants to use them for transportation….gas bikes should only be used as a hobby.

  • @Exposingfrauds143
    @Exposingfrauds143 2 года назад +1

    Buying mine now

  • @somtingwongwai7194
    @somtingwongwai7194 2 года назад +1

    Dude that's probably the best and honest assessment of that bike. I never considered the Karen's, that major issue in Australia (i'm not kidding)

  • @adamaref9047
    @adamaref9047 2 года назад

    What headlight are you using?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      I tried to include a link for you but links do not work for AliExpress not sure why.
      But if you search on AliExpress you should be able to find it just keep in mind the lights not very bright

  • @clemonsjoey
    @clemonsjoey 3 года назад +2

    Great video, I agree with on almost all points. I love my 134v #HellbirdBanditBike, a Trans Am inspired Electric Enduro(王) frame, but it’s about 200lbs and because it stands out, you have to keep your eye on it all the time and have to be mindful around police.

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  3 года назад +2

      Hey thanks for watching, that bike sounds like a beast!

    • @clemonsjoey
      @clemonsjoey 3 года назад +3

      @@samjohnson517 thanks man! This is my Enduro Ebike
      ruclips.net/video/e0KvR8uxsEM/видео.html

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  3 года назад +2

      That's a beautiful bike man you did a great job!

    • @clemonsjoey
      @clemonsjoey 3 года назад +1

      @@samjohnson517 spent lots of time and money on mine. Taking it to a motorcycle show tomorrow to compete

  • @CJ-hw4zc
    @CJ-hw4zc Год назад +1

    Cool vid bro

  • @steve7163
    @steve7163 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video sam... loving your channel pal 👌

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  3 года назад +1

      Thank you Steve I have been watching your channel way before I ever had one. I appreciate what you do.

  • @itinensanzen
    @itinensanzen 2 года назад

    Thats a nice ebike over there, buddy. Good video with valuable information, it would be great to know the range. Cheers.

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      Hello just writing it normal about 42 miles

  • @themanwithdahelmet
    @themanwithdahelmet Год назад

    What's model?

  • @ianmangham4570
    @ianmangham4570 2 года назад +1

    She's perfect, i love it

  • @LeticiasWR
    @LeticiasWR 2 года назад

    How tall are you and how tall is the seat?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад +1

      Hello, I'm 5'8 and the seat height is about 34in

  • @91722854
    @91722854 3 года назад

    With those 24ah 52V traingle frame batteries, would it be considerably better to convert an enduro / full suspension mtb to ebike instead of with the enduro frame?

    • @ianmangham4570
      @ianmangham4570 3 года назад +1

      For the street it would, you need a little more beef off road with the massive weight of the motor and battery

  • @ktg843
    @ktg843 2 года назад

    What's a good size rider for the ebike?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      This bike is pretty versatile in that way I would say about 5'6 5'7 you might start to have issues reaching the ground but you probably go all the way to 6'5 6'6

    • @ktg843
      @ktg843 2 года назад

      @@samjohnson517 I'm 5,4. Too short?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      @@ktg843 you might have to touch the ground with one foot or something, it's kind of like an extra large mountain bike frame. If you watch my build video I actually compare it to a med mountain bike I think you should try one

  • @edwardstoll1803
    @edwardstoll1803 2 года назад

    what is the best after market tires?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад +1

      I like the shinko 241's they've been working great on the street and dirt
      www.cyclegear.com/tires/shinko-sr-241-series-tires

  • @Rick-fe8xn
    @Rick-fe8xn 3 года назад +1

    I'm ordering one this or next month

  • @charbelitoc.8159
    @charbelitoc.8159 3 года назад +2

    Great list and to the point.

  • @rumgaobelienius5694
    @rumgaobelienius5694 2 года назад

    How much money can you expect to spend on bike maitanance monthly? Thank you

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      Hello, in 1700 miles the only thing I've changed is the brake pads there's not much maintenance to do when you think about it, the chain sprocket and cranks do not get used much at all.

    • @rumgaobelienius5694
      @rumgaobelienius5694 2 года назад

      @@samjohnson517 thank you for your reply. So the bike cost alot upfront to buy it but overall it saves you some money when compared to a car right?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      @@rumgaobelienius5694I think so, I mean it takes some electricity to charge it but that's a lot less than gas

    • @rumgaobelienius5694
      @rumgaobelienius5694 2 года назад

      @@samjohnson517 what about front and rear suspension maitenence? Does it cost alot and how offen would you have to service it?

  • @ash0787
    @ash0787 2 года назад

    con for me is cost and availability of a battery that will get these things up to their true potential, I paid £600 for a 40ah battery that can only put out 50 amps, and the capacity I can draw from the battery is closer to 30 amp hours than 40 it seems. Sur Rons and Onyx and Delfast are so lucky because they get a professionally made battery with samsung or LG or panasonic cells for a reasonable price.

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      Hello, that is so true the battery is very difficult to find that is why I ended up building my own.
      This one looks promising 150amp
      www.enduroebike.com/Samsung_30q_72V36AH_150A_discharge_high_drain_lithium_battery_pack

  • @paulmessikommer4027
    @paulmessikommer4027 2 года назад +1

    Great review, thx!

  • @ianmangham4570
    @ianmangham4570 2 года назад +2

    42 miles is awesome

  • @projectkod
    @projectkod 2 года назад +1

    nice - it's a really helpful video man!

  • @Spectt84
    @Spectt84 2 года назад

    How would a bigger rider fit on an Enduro style bike?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      Well first of all you could go with a longer rear shock and then of course move the fork tubes down as far as you can that would raise the overall height of the bike and then just whatever handlebars and stem you're comfortable with

  • @wdsoft
    @wdsoft 2 года назад

    Hi would a person of 6 foot 7 fit on this bike . Highten the seet etc ?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      I do not see why not this bike has a lot of adjustability such as a longer rear shock and maybe some taller bars / stem longer seat post etc

    • @wdsoft
      @wdsoft 2 года назад +1

      @@samjohnson517 thanks i just bought one

  • @tommest9934
    @tommest9934 Год назад

    Does it gets overheat

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  Год назад

      Hello no I have not had overheating problems. The motor will get hot if I hold it wide open for long periods of time but not to the point where it shuts down or anything like that

  • @ianmangham4570
    @ianmangham4570 2 года назад +1

    I've found on average a rider gets approx 1 mile distance for every amp hour if you cruise around 15mph on a flat half decent day, and that's an adult.

  • @Originalxlander
    @Originalxlander Год назад

    Which bike is this

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  Год назад

      It's a generic Enduro style or bomber clone that I built

  • @franksantana6859
    @franksantana6859 3 года назад +1

    Really been enjoying the videos Sam, do you have a complete parts list for your build and where you ordered them from?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  3 года назад +1

      Hello and thank you! I have links to the parts I purchased in my build video here
      ruclips.net/video/-3nH49Q8rKU/видео.html

  • @ghostdog4533
    @ghostdog4533 3 года назад

    What are your display settings

  • @Strange_Brew
    @Strange_Brew 2 года назад

    What town are those trails in?

  • @TheMuthay
    @TheMuthay 2 года назад

    Hi there all OK?? Just got my 12000w bike and theres something that is confusing.... I have the ukc1 display and at 34 %battery my bike Just died.... For real Just stoped the motor and i couldent do anything..... Hapen today.... Send messag to the seller and she says that is normal, that there is a delay in the display.... My battery is 72v 48amp /h... I did 69 kms... I dont think that this is correct... Stop with 34 %???? Do you have an ideia to change this?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      Hello yes there is a voltage limit, the battery will just cut off I think mine is at 65 volts you never want to run these batteries too low you can severely damage them.

    • @TheMuthay
      @TheMuthay 2 года назад +1

      @@samjohnson517 thanks a lot for your help, ok its just that i saw videos of guys rung the bike to 1% battery,,,,69 kms its a bit short i think,,,,am i right?....she´s to fast and i almost neveer ride slow....

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад +1

      @@TheMuthay hey you're welcome by the way 69km is good that's about what I get about 40 miles

  • @s.hughes795
    @s.hughes795 2 года назад +1

    I like your channel dude! Thanks for the videos. I bought a super73 Rx last year. Wish I had done some more research prior. I like the bike but there is much better value out there for 4000$.
    Well done videos. Concise and good content! Well done!

  • @beegeev
    @beegeev 3 года назад +1

    Can you send your exact parts links that you used for this build?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  3 года назад +1

      Hello all of the parts links are in my build video here ruclips.net/video/-3nH49Q8rKU/видео.html

    • @GreenLegendRan
      @GreenLegendRan 2 года назад

      @@samjohnson517 I had a problem with the frame link. It seemed to go to Ebay's front page.

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      @@GreenLegendRan yes sir the seller I bought it from apparently is no longer on eBay so I'm not going to be able to fix the link check out my new video for an explanation if you get a chance

    • @GreenLegendRan
      @GreenLegendRan 2 года назад +1

      @@samjohnson517 Thanks for getting back to me. I subscribed to your channel and will continue down the journey of building a highway speed ebike on the cheap.

  • @g.m3399
    @g.m3399 2 года назад

    For cars you actually do get very close to it if you drive over 600 km .+ weather conditions

  • @Forzn7tu
    @Forzn7tu Год назад

    Where can I get one ?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  Год назад

      Well you can build one by buying all the parts separately like I did or you can find them built, they're available pretty much everywhere online just make sure you do your research because a lot of them fall short when it comes to the battery.

  • @Tacitovieira
    @Tacitovieira 3 года назад

    Which battery to use for this 12000w engine?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  3 года назад

      Hello I am using 20s 12p battery with a 300 amp BMS, Molly cel 18650 2800 mAh 35 amp cells battery build video here ruclips.net/video/lgOZQGRH3H4/видео.html

  • @wintaylor6441
    @wintaylor6441 2 года назад

    Knee pads. leather and studs. Serious metal German helmet, Insurance and a prayer.

  • @raynellmoore68w
    @raynellmoore68w 2 года назад

    Where can these be bought for 3500 built?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      Hello, that was based on some comments in my build video, try looking on Alibaba, AliExpress or enduroebike.com like everything else prices have gone up since then.

  • @mikebennett3632
    @mikebennett3632 2 года назад

    What’s the payload on one of these bikes

  • @throne988
    @throne988 2 года назад

    How do you change the odometer from Km to Mile?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      Hello if it's the same system as mine double click the m that will get you into the settings menu scroll over to system by using the minus click m on system and there you can change it from metric to imperial

  • @caolan2819
    @caolan2819 2 года назад

    Top speed?

  • @steliosrc1414
    @steliosrc1414 2 года назад

    Can I have the link for it please

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  2 года назад

      here is the video of the build ruclips.net/video/-3nH49Q8rKU/видео.html

  • @ryangeorge495
    @ryangeorge495 2 года назад

    I bought a 2009 ktm 530 exc tops out at 112 mph 40mpg street legal paid 2500

    • @blur3253
      @blur3253 Год назад

      yeah i feel like there's a point where it just becomes dumb to spend so much on an ebike when motorcycles are wayyy faster and more fun

  • @rup3rt752
    @rup3rt752 Месяц назад

    Just bought 1 45ah 72v 12000w 2600$

  • @powchainsamaniego6744
    @powchainsamaniego6744 3 года назад +1

    It's feel like a motorcycle

  • @mbpro08
    @mbpro08 Год назад +1

    noice

  • @Tommy_Irish
    @Tommy_Irish Год назад

    Liked & subscribed! I'm 6'5, do you think I'd be a good fit on it?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  Год назад +1

      I think you would be fine it's about the size of an XL mountain bike I am 5' 8" using a190mm rear shock I have my seat post all the way down as far as I can go and I'm just barely flat-footed

    • @Tommy_Irish
      @Tommy_Irish Год назад

      @@samjohnson517 Awesome to know. Thank you. What was the name of the company that you went through?

    • @samjohnson517
      @samjohnson517  Год назад

      @@Tommy_Irish for the motor controller kit it was a company called Ncycle they're on Alibaba and AliExpress if you buy a controller/motor kit don't forget to add the front wheel because it's a pain to get it later

  • @happygiraffe9787
    @happygiraffe9787 2 года назад

    3.5T has exactly same torque capability than 5T, just takes a stronger battery and controller

  • @eastwood111
    @eastwood111 3 года назад +2

    Great video! Yes there’s definitely some Karen’s out there male and female lol

  • @ehudkirsh766
    @ehudkirsh766 Год назад +1

    Virtually all your cons can be mitigated with carbon fiber... if only there was an Enduro carbon fiber frame :(

  • @wolfcloud8735
    @wolfcloud8735 2 года назад

    Sounds like the only con is how heavy the frame is

  • @pierrepoitras8274
    @pierrepoitras8274 2 года назад

    G want to sell it? I would love to have one

  • @andi4281
    @andi4281 3 года назад +2

    Running into Karens. Put it in the pro list 🙃🙂

  • @powchainsamaniego6744
    @powchainsamaniego6744 3 года назад

    Because welling it's not good. it's need to be better job inside the frame

  • @michaeloherlihy2418
    @michaeloherlihy2418 5 месяцев назад

    How you avoid the cops see you go 40km