what may not come across from this clip is that sam seaborn realizes this is all that bob really has left of his father. he's carrying on his father's lifes pursuits and his legacy. sam comes back into the room and acts all hush hush like he's giving bob the we know you know routine. he's just commiting a kind act to a grieving son who lost his father 3 months ago.
Agree. Sam of course believes the claims being made are nonsense but he see the man in front of him as a son in pain over the loss of his father, honoring him in the only way he knows how. It's a human moment, and Sam being who he is could easily dismiss the guy...but that's not the man Sam is.
Have been watching west wing and arrived at the Sam Lloyd scene when he asks about an unidentified object reentering the atmosphere over Maui. Again a touching memory from an actor who was one of “those guys from that thing.” He’s been gone for 3 years now and he still makes me smile.
Thank you very much for this, Sam should be remembered. Cracking actor. I'm a huge fan of the west wing, and I have enjoyed Mr Lloyd in several other encounters. Obviously Scrubs. The historical GREAT SCOT to his dear ancestor needs to be mentioned. May he rest in power, a fantastic actor. Very much the but of so very many jokes, but he made us laugh oh so very often. How can there be a better cause than making people happy.
I kind of like how almost no mention is made of just how big of a geek Sam is in the show. Recording Secretary of the Princeton Gilbert and Sullivan Society and now a reference about Dungeons and Dragons Camp. These days they'd beat you over the head with his geekdom, because being geek is chic, but in the early 2000s? Just another character trait of his.
That's why I hate what they do with Dev Patel's character in The Newsroom. He never shuts up with his nerdy shit even though he comes off as a genuinely smart guy.
BTW, if you've never had the "fun" of dealing with a conspiracy theorist IRL, this is _exactly_ what it's like. I know a couple of them, and a few months ago, one of the local radio stations changed its format from Sports Talk to foreign language, and "Dave" said that he sure hoped that Homeland Security was monitoring it. I made the mistake of asking why, and he informed me that it was broadcasting in Arabic, probably to the ISIS cells in the area. So on my way home, I tuned it in. It was Portuguese. We have a lot of Portuguese speakers in the area, and I know a little of it, so I could pick up what they were saying. Next time I saw "Dave", I told him what it was, and his answer was "And you believed what they told you?" I pointed out that nobody told me, that I recognized the language, and it was Portuguese. To which he replied "Well, if believing that lets you sleep at night..."
I had one of these experiences when talking to a work acquaintance. I speak in a monotone so for people who don't know me very well it's a challenge to figure out if I'm being sarcastic or genuine. So we're chatting away and I sarcastically say "flat earth confirmed." To which he replied "dude!!!!" With an expression on his face like he's trapped in a foxhole and he just saw reinforcements. He then goes on a week long campaign of explaining to me every conspiracy theory his paranoid brain has latched onto while I eat my lunch and see how deep this deranged rabbit hole goes.
I have talked to conspiracists. There are actually two kinds; 1) the plain ignorant, as depicted in your story, and 2) the in-too-deep, who know mountains and mountains of information that forms a coherent picture, of which about 20% is false or unprovable, but which is almost impossible to confront because falsifiability is weakness (in their view) and they know so much more about their lies than you know about the truth.
I've had my life threatened by these kinds of people. God forbid you point out the breaking of the laws of physics, or use logical evidence against them. It's not that they can't be wrong. They are wrong. It's that they WON'T be wrong. friggen zealots.
Well, probably not _everyone._ If literally every other person is out to get you, at some point you gotta ask yourself, "Wait... am I the problem? Am I Hitler?"
@@BradyPostma lol... but Hitler was pretty paranoid whether the Russians were coming or not. Probably all the meth. I hear it makes a person a slightly edgy.,
@@ered203 The several dozen assassination attempts probably made him a little extra nervous, too. I also have heard that he had some nasty illness as a child - yellow fever? - that may have left him with mild brain damage.
ruclips.net/video/4oPluex8tds/видео.html I find it ironic how many people “knew” conspiracy theories were complete fabrications, only to later have to acknowledge that the “crazy conspiracy theorists” were right all along. The point is, it is both insulting and moronic to dismiss conspiracy theories by labeling those who you don’t like or disagree with by casting labels upon them. I don’t know you, but you can bet your ass I can promise you one thing, YOU, don’t know everything. Keep that in mind the next time you feel indulged to mock people.
I have a lot of sympathy for Bob. He stays gracious in spite of Sam's unnecessarily snotty attitude. If he didn't want to talk to him he shouldn't have let him in.
@@imcallingjapan2178 the video from 2004 from the USS Nimitz shot by David fravor a navy pilot, declassified by the DOD that shows what is known as the tic tac a ufo or as they call them now “UAP” Look it up man I’m not bullshitting nor am I a conspiracy theorist. I just can’t explain that footage and thus far never heard anyone who could. It’s pretty famous it was even mentioned in Jordan peele’s new alien movie “Nope” Look it up, go down the rabbit hole.
Trying to convince conspiracy theorists that the truth is the truth is a lost effort. Writing this in 2022, when the truth is now determined by which media source you watch lock your brain to.
what may not come across from this clip is that sam seaborn realizes this is all that bob really has left of his father. he's carrying on his father's lifes pursuits and his legacy. sam comes back into the room and acts all hush hush like he's giving bob the we know you know routine. he's just commiting a kind act to a grieving son who lost his father 3 months ago.
Agree. Sam of course believes the claims being made are nonsense but he see the man in front of him as a son in pain over the loss of his father, honoring him in the only way he knows how. It's a human moment, and Sam being who he is could easily dismiss the guy...but that's not the man Sam is.
We lost you today Sam. When I watch these scenes again I will smile and be thankful.
What u talking about? How we lose him?
The actor Sam Lloyd playing opposite Rob Lowe in this scene. He passed away from cancer. And no: we didn’t lose Sam Seaborn.
It's Seaborn with an E...Or Seaborn without the E and U after the O.....Doesn't matter, he's fictional
Have been watching west wing and arrived at the Sam Lloyd scene when he asks about an unidentified object reentering the atmosphere over Maui. Again a touching memory from an actor who was one of “those guys from that thing.” He’s been gone for 3 years now and he still makes me smile.
Thank you very much for this, Sam should be remembered. Cracking actor. I'm a huge fan of the west wing, and I have enjoyed Mr Lloyd in several other encounters. Obviously Scrubs. The historical GREAT SCOT to his dear ancestor needs to be mentioned.
May he rest in power, a fantastic actor. Very much the but of so very many jokes, but he made us laugh oh so very often. How can there be a better cause than making people happy.
I kind of like how almost no mention is made of just how big of a geek Sam is in the show. Recording Secretary of the Princeton Gilbert and Sullivan Society and now a reference about Dungeons and Dragons Camp. These days they'd beat you over the head with his geekdom, because being geek is chic, but in the early 2000s? Just another character trait of his.
What's the reference to "Dungeons and Dragons Camp"?
That's why I hate what they do with Dev Patel's character in The Newsroom.
He never shuts up with his nerdy shit even though he comes off as a genuinely smart guy.
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BTW, if you've never had the "fun" of dealing with a conspiracy theorist IRL, this is _exactly_ what it's like.
I know a couple of them, and a few months ago, one of the local radio stations changed its format from Sports Talk to foreign language, and "Dave" said that he sure hoped that Homeland Security was monitoring it. I made the mistake of asking why, and he informed me that it was broadcasting in Arabic, probably to the ISIS cells in the area.
So on my way home, I tuned it in. It was Portuguese. We have a lot of Portuguese speakers in the area, and I know a little of it, so I could pick up what they were saying.
Next time I saw "Dave", I told him what it was, and his answer was "And you believed what they told you?" I pointed out that nobody told me, that I recognized the language, and it was Portuguese. To which he replied "Well, if believing that lets you sleep at night..."
@Everstruggling RUclips needs a laughing emote, cause I'm dyin' over here
I had one of these experiences when talking to a work acquaintance. I speak in a monotone so for people who don't know me very well it's a challenge to figure out if I'm being sarcastic or genuine. So we're chatting away and I sarcastically say "flat earth confirmed." To which he replied "dude!!!!" With an expression on his face like he's trapped in a foxhole and he just saw reinforcements. He then goes on a week long campaign of explaining to me every conspiracy theory his paranoid brain has latched onto while I eat my lunch and see how deep this deranged rabbit hole goes.
I have talked to conspiracists. There are actually two kinds; 1) the plain ignorant, as depicted in your story, and 2) the in-too-deep, who know mountains and mountains of information that forms a coherent picture, of which about 20% is false or unprovable, but which is almost impossible to confront because falsifiability is weakness (in their view) and they know so much more about their lies than you know about the truth.
@@BradyPostma that's a good run down.
I've had my life threatened by these kinds of people. God forbid you point out the breaking of the laws of physics, or use logical evidence against them.
It's not that they can't be wrong. They are wrong. It's that they WON'T be wrong. friggen zealots.
RIP and this reminded me how excellent The West Wing was
RIP Sam Lloyd.
RIP, I really enjoyed him on Scrubs.
my first reaction was "there's a d&d camp?"... then I remembered that my first ever game was at a summer camp 28 years ago
talk about typecasted! has he ever played a guy who isn't miserable?
I don’t know if I could have talked to Bob without laughing. Sam was very professional...
If Josh was the one talking to Bob he surely would've broken out laughing.
Might have been nice for Sam to offer some condolences over the man's loss of his father.
: But the man's dad didn't die. That's just what They wanted Sam to think. It's all very clear if you follow the evidence.
That’s implicitly what he was kind of doing in the last scene I think
What a great scene.
"a human friend?"
TEDDYYYYYYY (From Scrubs)
Haha does he say 'this is like Dungeons and dragons camp all over again'?
Sorry to hear about your cancer you made me laugh in Scrubs my thoughts are with you.
Where's the Tv Guide?
Good 'Seinfeld' reference!
No t.v guide? Interesting.
Two Congressmen want a tour of Fort Knox. Surely that's a fairly turn-key request?
The trick is that the Representatives have to have names.
2:38 that startled glance he does is gold! 🤣
Seriously, even in a TV series as awesome as this, guys like this man still remain? I mean come on...
Does this scene look like it was shot like a scene from x - files?;-)
Now that you mention it, it kind of does. Wonder if that was intentional. A bit of an homage from the WW crew.
Those three knocks from Josh, nice touch
Why?
@@TPRM1 3 is the magic number
Robert (Bob) of playing a character called Sam while Sam is playing a character called Bob. This shouldn’t make me chuckle but 2021
My God, Bob is .... an old, out of shape, alternate-universe version of Lex Grossman from tropic thunder. #OnceYouSeeIt #YouCantUnseeIt
Just because you are paranoid, that doesn't mean everyone is not out to get you.
Well, probably not _everyone._ If literally every other person is out to get you, at some point you gotta ask yourself, "Wait... am I the problem? Am I Hitler?"
@@BradyPostma lol... but Hitler was pretty paranoid whether the Russians were coming or not. Probably all the meth. I hear it makes a person a slightly edgy.,
@@ered203 The several dozen assassination attempts probably made him a little extra nervous, too.
I also have heard that he had some nasty illness as a child - yellow fever? - that may have left him with mild brain damage.
He's the guy from "Scrubs"
This guy looks like Sacha Baron Cohen’s 'Dr. Nira Cain-N'Degeocello' character from "Who is America?".
Ahhhh, conspiracies ! ---------Have had far too many of these kinds of conversations in my life! -------------------------------Wolfsky9, 72 y/o
ruclips.net/video/4oPluex8tds/видео.html
I find it ironic how many people “knew” conspiracy theories were complete fabrications, only to later have to acknowledge that the “crazy conspiracy theorists” were right all along. The point is, it is both insulting and moronic to dismiss conspiracy theories by labeling those who you don’t like or disagree with by casting labels upon them. I don’t know you, but you can bet your ass I can promise you one thing, YOU, don’t know everything. Keep that in mind the next time you feel indulged to mock people.
Bob is Q now
Um, there is no gold in Knox...oh gee whiz....too funny.
I have a lot of sympathy for Bob. He stays gracious in spite of Sam's unnecessarily snotty attitude. If he didn't want to talk to him he shouldn't have let him in.
I disagree. It's insane the amount of restraint Sam shows.
RIP
This guy sounds like one of the whackos that no matter how much facts you give them they can't accept the fact that they're wrong.
At risk of sounding stupid.
Weird where we are with recent pentagon revelations, Sam Lloyd is more right than Sam seabird
What Pentagon revelations?
@@imcallingjapan2178 the navy videos, the tic tac and gimble.
@@jimmy2k4o In English, what Pentagon revelations?
@@imcallingjapan2178 the video from 2004 from the USS Nimitz shot by David fravor a navy pilot, declassified by the DOD that shows what is known as the tic tac a ufo or as they call them now “UAP”
Look it up man I’m not bullshitting nor am I a conspiracy theorist. I just can’t explain that footage and thus far never heard anyone who could. It’s pretty famous it was even mentioned in Jordan peele’s new alien movie “Nope”
Look it up, go down the rabbit hole.
@@jimmy2k4o Okay, I can accept UFOs as a concept are real, but not all the wacky X-Files government conspiracy nonsense that comes with it.
Trying to convince conspiracy theorists that the truth is the truth is a lost effort. Writing this in 2022, when the truth is now determined by which media source you watch lock your brain to.
I am starting to get irritated with looney toons. aka GOP with Trump's influence. 😮
AREA 51!
Ted!