And the part in the anteroom where he figures out why she was fired. I’m sure that director wanted to fire Charlie for bringing her in for the interview, but there was no way he could.
I think there's a few things going on that make those so lovely and joyful for Sorkin addicts, myself included. Those throwaway lines are one of the reasons we love him. Two of the big factors are (1) how Sorkin writes about internal conflict, and (2) the attention to small details signals care and investment. 1. the throwaway lines often come when dealing with a thorny question. like here. Sam's question gets at the heart of Jed's conflict. In less deft shows, and in life, those kind of direct questions are uncomfortable for us as humans. Sam has nailed an unresolved tension for a smart person like Jed. Sometimes we too don't understand ourselves. And when put on the spot, we squirm to describe what we haven't yet had time to resolve. But "i don't know, I'm a puzzle" relieves the tension of the question. And reminds us its ok to sit with unresolved unanswered questions, until the time is right to answer them. We love the line, because it saves us, and Jed, from delving where we aren't ready to go.
(2) the attention to detail. again, in less deft shows, you don't get lines like those. The writers have to carry the plot forward. Dialogue and screen time are scarce, everything has to be directed towards a purpose. But as an audience, the effect of economy can make us feel rushed, hurried. We don't get to spend time dwelling and sitting with characters. Sorkin tries to work around that feeling of hurriedness by giving us small throwaway lines. We can see and feel, signalled by these lines that clearly aren't just exposition or plot driven, that the author of the content is willing to let us see inside these folks, their messiness, the small details about them. We feel relieved of the hurriedness of getting to the end of an episode. and for that relief, we are grateful and delighted by the lines that offered the relief to us. sorry for the super long reply. I love Sorkin, and am fascinated by how he manages to do what he does
Debbie was great casting. She just looked like the kind of woman who would give you a sharp bollocking when you need it, but treat you with warmth and kindness when you need it too.
Thank you for including her scene with Ronna! It always makes me tear up to see her emotions at the door of the Oval Office, and Debbie telling her she's got this
oh no she handles the fuck out of him. and he sees it, it is borderline insulting. But he has MS on the most important job in the world (in that universe, in here potus is just a over mythified figure head)
Also, that great bit where he reads to her some history where she protested him and said something bad, but still referred to him as President. "Class act". Love this show!!
I knew a high-powered executive assistant through my ex boss, and you truly can't wrap your head around how much work these people put in each day. For all intents and purposes, these individuals are co executives of whatever organization their working at. The success or failure in a lot of cases at this level can be traced back to the executive assistant. It's truly an amazing profession and gets you on list within inner circles of the most powerful people in the world.
@grapatin that is true, but in the law offices that I worked in, without secretaries and paralegals, the attorneys would be lost. There's a lot of paperwork to funnel through in any transaction
Thank you. Such an absolutely incredible show. I wanted him to be the real president. I love seeing Allison Janney in this role again. It's such a contrast with the comedic role she played on "Mom".
I just yesterday finished viewing the box-set of Sorkin and Schlamme's 'Sports Night' series. Got it from Inter-Library Loan. Fantastic! It concluded in year 2000. I highly recommend it!
When this came on TV, I couldn't help but look at my late wife and said to her: "That's so you excluding the animals but we would have them also if it wasn't for the fact we live in a condo"
@@heddalee the only part I didn't like about that episode. Guy was admitting to trying to staff the White House through nepotism right outside the Oval Office and the President was the one apologizing.
In a desperate bid to remain sane after the election, I cancelled all news related subscriptions for the foreseeable future. I just can’t bear to see that clown… I’m going with West Wing instead. When reality is too brutal to take, fantasy is so much easier to digest.
Well only another 35 days and Joe Dementia will start to become a bad memory and soon after that we’ll all forget he was ever President…just as he will…
That goes double for the next President. I really want Jed to be our President. He was so ethical, so caring, and he really struggled with making the devastating decisions.
You skipped the best scene...the scene at the white house station desk when he decides to hire her. Ilove that scene. oh well...Love the show. I've rewatched all seasons at least three times since the election season started. LOL
Of all the cast on The West Wing, Lily Tomlin was by far the best cast character. And yes, I mean above everyone else. She was amazing and was great to see her away from her comedy routines.
"300 IQ points between them, they can't find their way home. I swear to God if Donna wasn't there, they'd have to buy a house." I love that line, it's not only hilarious, but it shows even Jeb knew Donna was valuable to the team and Josh would be lost without her.
Why would you take the time to meticulously collect all these wonderful reverent clips of her, but withhold the best moment of Debbie Fiderer’s appearances on The West Wing? The most significant scene is at the end of the second half of her job interview with President Bartlet, when he realizes she’s the one. This pivotal, hilarious, and heartfelt moment encapsulates her character’s essence, discretion, and dedication. “She didn’t give you up. She didn’t give you up.” I highly suggest redoing this collection to include that iconic scene. Please and thank you. P. S. Honorable mention for the scene in the episode titled “Process Stories.” of season 5 Episode 8, when President Bartlet tells Debbie that he read her hate mail and liked that she always referred to him as “President Bartlet” in the letters is also a great one to include.
Loved the West Wing but I could never understand why they killed off the Mrs. Landingham character considering how the interaction between her and the President, though usually brief, often stole the scene for me personally. Having said that the talented Lily Tomlin was more than up to the task and her interactions with Martin Sheen more than held their own. She was definitely an inspired choice to replace one of the most beloved characters of a truly iconic show!
Okay, did someone fall asleep at the editor bay here? Why were there a bunch of random, unrelated clips here? And why were they about Kazakhstan and a Russian spy plane?
Lily Tomlin is a great comic, but she's just as wonderful as a dramatic actress. Many comics learn that timing in presenting a joke is key to delivery; and that same skill can work well in dramatic acting. Other comics have done dramatic acting, such as Robin Williams, to great success. Tomlin is just such an actor and comic.
So now twice we've had videos of her interview and twice you've left out the part in the anteroom when he learns why she was fired and when he chases her down and hires her. Very disappointed!!
If I was ever in the doorway, to an unoccupied Presidential Oval office, I would have the same reaction. The mind reels, all the history that was made there, the persons who occupied the Presidency, all of it, in complete reverence 🇺🇸
The more I rewatch the west wing, the more I found the character incredibely naive and arrogant. They think they are tolerant and progressive, but really they aren't. They are snoby, irrespectfull and convince of their own righteousness. They believe they are right and so the game they play is justified. The game in and on itself is destroying their democracy.
They left out the best part. It’s when the President actually chased Debbie down to ask about the dollar.
I came here JUST TO see that part! Darn. It's such an important moment! Turning point!
@@AllAboutTheJoy Me too! (And the one just outside the Oval Office where he figures out what happened to get her fired.)
And the part in the anteroom where he figures out why she was fired. I’m sure that director wanted to fire Charlie for bringing her in for the interview, but there was no way he could.
Exactly. @TheWestWing can we have a clip with both these scenes?
Man that was disappointing not to see the best part of the scene with the dollar. That was mean.
Why are my favorite lines of Sorkin's always the quick throw-away ones? "I don't know, Sam, I'm a puzzle" always makes me happy.
The devil is in the details.
I think there's a few things going on that make those so lovely and joyful for Sorkin addicts, myself included. Those throwaway lines are one of the reasons we love him. Two of the big factors are (1) how Sorkin writes about internal conflict, and (2) the attention to small details signals care and investment.
1. the throwaway lines often come when dealing with a thorny question. like here. Sam's question gets at the heart of Jed's conflict. In less deft shows, and in life, those kind of direct questions are uncomfortable for us as humans. Sam has nailed an unresolved tension for a smart person like Jed. Sometimes we too don't understand ourselves. And when put on the spot, we squirm to describe what we haven't yet had time to resolve. But "i don't know, I'm a puzzle" relieves the tension of the question. And reminds us its ok to sit with unresolved unanswered questions, until the time is right to answer them. We love the line, because it saves us, and Jed, from delving where we aren't ready to go.
(2) the attention to detail. again, in less deft shows, you don't get lines like those. The writers have to carry the plot forward. Dialogue and screen time are scarce, everything has to be directed towards a purpose. But as an audience, the effect of economy can make us feel rushed, hurried. We don't get to spend time dwelling and sitting with characters.
Sorkin tries to work around that feeling of hurriedness by giving us small throwaway lines. We can see and feel, signalled by these lines that clearly aren't just exposition or plot driven, that the author of the content is willing to let us see inside these folks, their messiness, the small details about them. We feel relieved of the hurriedness of getting to the end of an episode. and for that relief, we are grateful and delighted by the lines that offered the relief to us.
sorry for the super long reply. I love Sorkin, and am fascinated by how he manages to do what he does
Debbie was great casting. She just looked like the kind of woman who would give you a sharp bollocking when you need it, but treat you with warmth and kindness when you need it too.
IIRC Sorkin and Schlamme saw Lily Tomlin in a play and she was so funny that they immediately decided to create a character for her to play.
Wow! @@Jurgan6
The perfect replacement for Mrs Landingham then
Thank you for including her scene with Ronna! It always makes me tear up to see her emotions at the door of the Oval Office, and Debbie telling her she's got this
Yes! The passing of the torch between the two was an excellent scene!
Me, too.
Jed, you want her to manage your phone: one ringy-dingy, two ringy-dingies
Love this!!! I can only imagine how many people watching this video do not!!!
Classic ….
"but let's do this every once in a while..." LOVE IT!
One of best damn shows and even years later, it still is! I learned so much about gov't from this show.
“They weren’t funny enough“ and in comes Lily Tomlin. Pure magic between them… and decades later in Grace and Frankie…
I love how Debbie handles him without handling him.
oh no she handles the fuck out of him. and he sees it, it is borderline insulting. But he has MS on the most important job in the world (in that universe, in here potus is just a over mythified figure head)
Like after the shots fired on the Oval Office, she reminds him to get BP tested. And makes sure Ron looks into it.
The mention of D'Austiea - a throwback to American President "The President and Mrs. D'austiea are bored." is GENIUS!!!!!
You guys left out the best scene where he hires her! Deary me!
Came here to say this!!
Ditto!
I KNOW!!!
Also, that great bit where he reads to her some history where she protested him and said something bad, but still referred to him as President. "Class act". Love this show!!
I knew a high-powered executive assistant through my ex boss, and you truly can't wrap your head around how much work these people put in each day.
For all intents and purposes, these individuals are co executives of whatever organization their working at. The success or failure in a lot of cases at this level can be traced back to the executive assistant. It's truly an amazing profession and gets you on list within inner circles of the most powerful people in the world.
I worked in a law firm. The secretaries ran that office. They were tough and efficient and irreplaceable
@@elizabethdillon4945Assistants and secretaries don't have the same responsibilities or roles.
@grapatin that is true, but in the law offices that I worked in, without secretaries and paralegals, the attorneys would be lost. There's a lot of paperwork to funnel through in any transaction
Amen! Appreciate the kudos.
"say it with empathy"....................man o man, was that a nice touch well done!
Debbie’s pep talk to Ronna at the end made me well up. It’s nice when you smart people have your back.
same. it's moving.
It's astounding how enthralled and emotional this show makes me feel.
Yes. He was the kind of President I wanted and still do. Watching how dedicated all of the employees were really hit me.
Sadly that's long gone, now it's activists and dei only
I was waiting for the moment when the president figures out why Debbie was fired.
Same
Charlie: I’m done. “I’m sending a car for you in 90 minutes” 😂😂😂
Thank you. Such an absolutely incredible show. I wanted him to be the real president. I love seeing Allison Janney in this role again. It's such a contrast with the comedic role she played on "Mom".
I love how much she cares about the personal as well as the professional, but remains professional.
I just yesterday finished viewing the box-set of Sorkin and Schlamme's 'Sports Night' series. Got it from Inter-Library Loan. Fantastic! It concluded in year 2000. I highly recommend it!
I bought both seasons on RUclips. I love it!
Loved Sports Night. Gone too soon,
God how I love Charlie! He is absolutely amazing!!! Lilly Tomlin is fantastic, too!
Lily Tomlin...you ROCK!!! I have been a fan of yours ever since Laugh In. 1968. You were brilliant then. And you are still brilliant NOW!!!
You know this fictional show was 20+ years ago, right?
One ringy dingy
@@rickb3650she's not wrong. Lily Tomlin is still brilliant Now!
@@maggiemagness7594 I never said she wasn't. Like so many (but not enough) of her generation, she tries to tell us what the parasites were doing.
@@rickb3650Awwww - are we making you cry, kewpie-doll?
I love Martin Sheen’s “Nooooooo”.
When this came on TV, I couldn't help but look at my late wife and said to her: "That's so you excluding the animals but we would have them also if it wasn't for the fact we live in a condo"
"you swallowed a brochure" 😅😅😅
How lucky was Ronna to end her run on West Wing sharing her series ending scene with Lily Tomlin!
As great as this compilation is, it left out the best scene where the President hires her on the spot. Perhaps a re-do is in order.
Exactly!! This misses the whole
Story arc and ruins it!!!
Yet we all know the missing scenes 😊
This is my favorite show ever ❤
"She didn't give you up," probably the best line in the series, and they didn't show it, lol.
I hated that line, it made him look weak. He should have said "you're attacking my staff, and right outside my office to boot."
@@heddalee the only part I didn't like about that episode. Guy was admitting to trying to staff the White House through nepotism right outside the Oval Office and the President was the one apologizing.
'that come with tights & a cape?'
This show is the best TV ever made!!
One of my most favorite characters in a show full of favorite characters.
Thank you this just got me over a very bad thing that happened today ❤❤
@@kevincaulfield9736 I'm so sorry. I hope you're okay
I’m so terribly sorry. I hope this day is better for you.
Charlie's repsone "I know" to her saying she was fired... he knows very well why she was fired, because of him...
President Bartlet: I just got spanked.
Debbie Fidderer: Mmm. Sorry I missed it.
I love Martin Sheen.
“You worked at the White House.” 😂
Violet Newstead finally got that promotion...
Just be yourself. That's the number one tip on interviewing. Only say stuff, that you can back up. But be unique; be different; be memorable.
Unless your interviewer is a .................. then it doesn't matter what you say.
Be obsequious, purple and clairvoyant.
i have to watch this now
Lily Tomlin was great as Debbie, a perfect foil to Bartlet, they bickered and danced around one another, but they worked well together.
Omg…if Donna wasn’t there I swear to God they’d have to buy a house
so this is how Ms. Frizzle gets all her field trip ideas
There’s a great bit of continuity with this and The American President, both having the president of France as Dostier.
In a desperate bid to remain sane after the election, I cancelled all news related subscriptions for the foreseeable future. I just can’t bear to see that clown… I’m going with West Wing instead. When reality is too brutal to take, fantasy is so much easier to digest.
Yeah, I stopped reading the paper too. TWW is an excellent idea
Well only another 35 days and Joe Dementia will start to become a bad memory and soon after that we’ll all forget he was ever President…just as he will…
House of Cards would be preferable to our current political situation...
And more decent too....
i already started
7:09 - Only Lilly Tomlin could deliver "Let's do this once in a while"
How on earth did you miss one of the greatest scenes in the entire series🤯
Secretaries run the world.
I miss this show.
The problem is that the current President should be a TV Show, and this TV Show should be the current serving President.
That goes double for the next President. I really want Jed to be our President. He was so ethical, so caring, and he really struggled with making the devastating decisions.
Biden is competent; the other is a barely-sketched television character. Stay in your seat.
Oh my gosh!!!! You have saved America!!!!!!!!!🇺🇸
I was really looking forward to seeing ALL of Lily Tomlin's scenes. Please go back and add all of them. Please
You skipped the best scene...the scene at the white house station desk when he decides to hire her. Ilove that scene. oh well...Love the show. I've rewatched all seasons at least three times since the election season started. LOL
Left out the best part of why she was actually fired.
The West Wing series is becoming more Sci-Fi as time goes on.
I can’t even imagine such high functioning discourse with the incoming administration.
@truerthanyouknow9456 that is because you are correct. tic-tac-toe will be a challenge.
I’m such a wuss I can hardly even imagine the incoming administration. I’ll wait till the last second in January to accept reality.
Even less with the outgoing one
@@JaneA544 Give it 2 years.
that house is so fancy.
Hi channel, if you are missing a scene from season 6/7 between CJ and Josh, you have misplaced it in the middle of this compilation
Sooo, NO David Dweck wants a drink of wa-wa?
To The West Wing Creators of this channel...THIS "ARCHIVE" is incomplete. READ the comments from your Fan Base and RE-DO this "Story Arc". Thank you.
Oh please
@@fc4660 You are right....I should have inserted PLEASE as well. Thank you Dingus!
You want a complete archive? Stream the series.
@@petemccutchen3266 The "Archive" of the vetting of Debbie Fiderer Pete! 👋
Of all the cast on The West Wing, Lily Tomlin was by far the best cast character. And yes, I mean above everyone else. She was amazing and was great to see her away from her comedy routines.
"300 IQ points between them, they can't find their way home. I swear to God if Donna wasn't there, they'd have to buy a house." I love that line, it's not only hilarious, but it shows even Jeb knew Donna was valuable to the team and Josh would be lost without her.
Love Lilly in this role❤
Love this show, love Debbie. Missing some good scenes to include off topic campaign clips is not it
Lily Thomlin is the BEST. ❤❤❤
Why would you take the time to meticulously collect all these wonderful reverent clips of her, but withhold the best moment of Debbie Fiderer’s appearances on The West Wing? The most significant scene is at the end of the second half of her job interview with President Bartlet, when he realizes she’s the one. This pivotal, hilarious, and heartfelt moment encapsulates her character’s essence, discretion, and dedication.
“She didn’t give you up. She didn’t give you up.”
I highly suggest redoing this collection to include that iconic scene. Please and thank you.
P. S. Honorable mention for the scene in the episode titled “Process Stories.” of season 5 Episode 8, when President Bartlet tells Debbie that he read her hate mail and liked that she always referred to him as “President Bartlet” in the letters is also a great one to include.
Why not when he figures out why she was fired?
Loved the West Wing but I could never understand why they killed off the Mrs. Landingham character considering how the interaction between her and the President, though usually brief, often stole the scene for me personally. Having said that the talented Lily Tomlin was more than up to the task and her interactions with Martin Sheen more than held their own. She was definitely an inspired choice to replace one of the most beloved characters of a truly iconic show!
I read the actress who played Ms.Landingham wanted to do something else...
Lily Tomlin was brilliant in this role
She is brilliant
Lily Tomlin is a national treasure!
Okay, did someone fall asleep at the editor bay here? Why were there a bunch of random, unrelated clips here? And why were they about Kazakhstan and a Russian spy plane?
Wonder if Martin Sheen and Lily Tomlin are buddies irl. They were part of a great ensemble for the more recent Grace and Frankie too
Lily Tomlin is a great comic, but she's just as wonderful as a dramatic actress. Many comics learn that timing in presenting a joke is key to delivery; and that same skill can work well in dramatic acting. Other comics have done dramatic acting, such as Robin Williams, to great success. Tomlin is just such an actor and comic.
Good video but huge part of story missing. Initial meeting. The follow up point when he finally picks her is huge to miss this.
Wow
Hard agree
How do you leave out the best part, where Bartlett chases her down and asks her about the statistics he was told by Ed/Larry and then hires her?!?!
Nope out NOW if you came for the best part of this section, because they skipped it! (?!?) 👎
Cannot believe you left out the xlip of the President working out the teason and hiring her. Very poor work
How did you leave out the best parts? The first meeting? The memory test? The admission of why she got fired? Ugh.
So now twice we've had videos of her interview and twice you've left out the part in the anteroom when he learns why she was fired and when he chases her down and hires her. Very disappointed!!
If I was ever in the doorway, to an unoccupied Presidential Oval office, I would have the same reaction. The mind reels, all the history that was made there, the persons who occupied the Presidency, all of it, in complete reverence 🇺🇸
FIDERER.... My mother's maiden name!
If Tim Walz had become president - I could totally see "West Wing" going on.😂😂😂
Leave it to Ms. Frizzle to be high in an interview.
What happened to the US over the last few years to make a TV show so poignant now?
i dont gamble...
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Omg, you people clearly have no knowledge of the series. These compilation videos are crap.
To get her actual hiring and miss that is Amateur
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Great fiction show. If only that political party loved America like the show portrays.
terrible compilation; there was so much more.
This is not how people actually talk in real life. Awful
how wonderful then that this is a show
The more I rewatch the west wing, the more I found the character incredibely naive and arrogant. They think they are tolerant and progressive, but really they aren't. They are snoby, irrespectfull and convince of their own righteousness. They believe they are right and so the game they play is justified. The game in and on itself is destroying their democracy.
geez, can we get him to run in 2028?