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Season 5 Episode 17: The Supremes
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"I'm voting for what's his name, married to Abby Bartlet."🤣
Even better would have been if he said, "Dr Abbey Barlett".
His name's Josiah Jed. I wish Abbey came in and said that to him
Glenn Close was so good in this.
The word is "poise".
The way she was watching when they announced it on tv, holding her hands to her face like an excited child -/ loved that
Glenn Close is great in almost everything she does. She was also great on The Shield and Damages and also as the Vice President in Air Force One.
Don't forget she played the VP in Air Force One in 1997. Was incredible in that as well.
She’s great in everything! She could play the good girl/ mother/ wife- ‘the natural’, ‘the big chill’ and the evilest- fatal attraction , 101 Dalmatians !
"We discarding anyone else for legal activities?" Yes Mister President, lots of them
The best bit about this episode is the banter between Lang and Judge Mulreedy. This is my favourite West Wing episode by far.
And Mulreedy and Charlie. Shirt but sweet.
Just what they were looking for to replace both judges.
If you ever got the DVDs there's a commentary section for this one. There was one scene they filming Toby with Mulreedy (William Fichtner). But the scene was rather "dead." So they told Fichtner that his character is brighter than Toby which changed the tone and we get a wonderful TV show. Too bad this is just a show and reality couldn't be like this.
My fave episode 😍
So agree but always forgotten is the US senator who out drinks Josh and CJ in this episode. For more funCJ and the senator singing.
Best post-Sorkin episode, bar none.
yes
Certainly the best guest stars, Close and Finctner
La Palabra or 2261 Votes for me, but this is up there for sure
Actually, dumbest and most unrealistic one. One of the parties is just going to GIVE AWAY a Supreme Court seat to the other? Uhhhhh....no. The ending to this episode still makes me angry whenever I see it.
@@nocoolnamejimxx5084 well you are a dunce and a fool to boot; yes, SCOTUS, by this episode in the West Wing, is expanded by one seat, which is realistic as there has never been an outright limit on how many judges may be appointed Justices at SCOTUS, it's the price for being able to nominate Evelyn Barker Lang as head of SCOTUS and by god Fichtner does a brilliant job portraying a conservative, genius level judge.
After today I’ve never wanted this fictional woman on the Supreme Court more
Yes, the men that wrote this character and the lines, did a great job
Sure, the wet dream of the leftest fictional universe is your idol.
@@trevornott2488 If she wasn't modelled after Ruth Bader Ginsburg I don't know what the hell. So let's dial down the "she is so unrealistic for a woman"
I KNOW RIGHT
Perfect character that we need now.
When Josh puts his hand on his chin while listening to Judge Lang, you can tell is the moment he fell in love with her.
I love her mind, i love her shoes
A fan of D. H. Lawrence.
Robert Picardo & William Fichter were phenomenal in these roles.
Agreed!
One of my favourite WW episodes in the entire series. The back and forth between Glenn Close's and William Fichtner's characters was one of my top 10 highlights of a series that had hundreds of highlights. The West Wing is my favourite TV show of all time, far and away.
That scene could have gone on for the whole show and I would t have argued at all
I loved the two characters played by Glenn Close and Finchner. I wish those characters were on the Court.
Omg 😢yessssssssss
I wish literally almost anyone else was on the Court besides six persons I can think of.
I'm glad he didn't get the job as a supreme court justice... it left him able to go lead the Atlantis expedition.
It took me a long time to like him in that series.
@@ScorpiusZA.I believe that was the idea! 😊
@@ScorpiusZA. I think that was on purpose. The character was literally introduced as an antagonist in SG-1.
@@Calmputer I know, but after following him for 7 years on Voyager, it created an odd dissonance for me.
I luv you guys. We b such a pack of nerds.
"I love this woman, I love her mind, I love her shoes."
I thought the two of them were going to do a happy dance in the hallway
" judicial rulings should NOT be based on person ideology.. " Perhaps Alito, Barratt, Kavanaugh, Roberts & Thomas all missed this class in law school ?
To paraphrase Sorkin's other great work A Few Good Men, I think Kavanaugh was sick the day they taught LAW at law school.
That’s the beauty of SCOTUS.
They didn't miss it. They simply don't care. There is no 'originalism' argument for a 'President-turned-King' to have SEAL Team Six assassinate people the 'King' decided he doesn't like. 'Originalism' was just bad faith in a nice clothes. Now the bad faith is a little more naked. Because they don't care. Don't have to.
The current ruling is 100% compatible with the Obama ruling. Sotomayor desent is the about face.
Sour grapes.
Watching this after roe fell is just…. Extra heartbreaking
Beyond 😢when tv is breathtakingly perfect.
It never should've stood
Fucking democrats had decades to make it stick around forever and didn't. Sucks it was lost now someone else will have to fight to get it back.
An interesting thing that I heard about after RGB died is that she was in the process of bringing a potentially stronger case to SCOTUS when Roe was decided. It involved a female military officer who was, essentially, being required to get one for her position. Had that been the case to change establish that right, it would have been a little bit harder for the current SCOTUS to justify getting rid of it
@@Swarm509it won’t come back
Rewatching this episode post-Dobbs is crazy because they were all worried about how litmus tests in confirmation hearings were going to fill the court with boring centrists with no strong ideologies and never considered the far simpler possibility that people might just lie.
Confirmation hearings are a joke. They are all about allowing politicians to grandstand and nominees learned from Robert Bork that they should be as vague as possible and not ruffle feathers.
And now look what we have today.
Testify.
I'd rather not.
There’s been nothing close to this since… and did we ever EVER think we’d be living in a time when Roe v. Wade was Overturned?!
One of the best post-Sorkin episodes
*THE* best
Please state the nature of the legal emergency.
Ive been watching clips for the last hour. I might as well just watch the show again :)
I wonder if this small role for Close had anything to do with the creation and casting of Damages, which aired three years after ep5.17 of TWW. Close plays Patty Hewes, a powerful litigator. A formative part of Hewes' character is that she had an abortion in (or shortly after?) law school.
This was one of my favorite episodes in West Wing
I love her shoes hahaha
Man this show makes me sad. It reminds me of a time when the electorate was not so radical, and toxic. At the time there’s no way I could be convinced the American people would become so nasty, and mean. I thought we were already too divided. Boy was I wrong. Never say that things can’t get worse.
this all before the internet
I missed this show were smart and passionate people argued about how they could support the American people.
I love Close in this episode. Such perfect casting - a giant of acting playing a giant of judiciary.
Sadly, the current Supreme Court is not as ethical.
" judicial rulings should NOT be based on person ideology.. ". Alito, Barratt, Kavanaugh, Roberts & Thomas missed this class in law school ?
@@wilson2455 On the contrary: Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan missed it in law school! Roe v Wade was decided by justices who wanted to legalize abortion because of their own ideologies, so they invented a "constitutional right" which did not exist anywhere in the Constitution. When purely going off the Constitution and not considering personal ideologies (which of course is impossible), you would arrive at the conclusion that the Constitution does NOT provide the right to abortion.
One of the best episodes they ever had.
If she were a real Supreme Court candidate IRL, i´d vote for her.
Would’ve been nice to have her on the court irl wouldn’t it have?!
😢omg yes……..
Never knew Dr Glassman worked for the president before working at St Bonaventure
I love this episode so much.
Are we discarding anybody else for legal activities 😂😂
Right there, there was passion in the west wing. Right there they understood the stake and it was not vapid hubris.
How things have changed in 2024
Yup....
And then 2023...
One of many GREAT scenes. This show is simply amazing, IMHO
This episode is good but in typical West Wing fashion it also totally ignores character continuity. CJ was always the biggest advocate for women, the most outraged about abuses of Saudi women, and yet here she’s advocating AGAINST the feminist dream justice.
uh, didn't you see the circus when Christine Blasy Ford stepped forward ? and she wasn't even a nominee for the Court. Harriet Miers got pummelled after her 2005 nomination which was only a year after this episode aired. there is being an advocate for women, but C.J. here is doing her job as press secretary in explaining how Evelyn Baker Lang would have been vilified if she had gone through the formal vetting process.
As amazing as Glenn Close was in this episode, I was much more enamored by William Finctner as Christopher Mulready later in the episode.
I hated his politics with every fiber of my being, but by god was he brilliant in the same way Evelyn Lang was. I’d work for that man and not feel like I sold my soul for it.
I really liked that the writers took the time to find both sides to the argument and showed that Mulready could educate and inform both sides of the debate just by being the advocate for the other side. It would be great if someone like that actually existed.
I know right, it was like Sorkin's ghost was present when they wrote the episode!
Two good, genius level judges that get positions on SCOTUS, damn me if the Supremes isn't the best episode of season 5.
The best thing about Mulready, for me, was that we finally had someone who was smarter than the rest of the cast, and wasn't afraid to show it or being condescending about it. The episode with writer's commentary explicitly says this during the scene with Toby and Mulready, and you can actually see the visible confusion on Toby's whole demeanor during that discussion with Mulready, since by now they're much more used to dealing with stupid people spewing stupid arguments. William did a masterclass of a job during that scene, it always makes me smile.
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I also loved how everyone was clearly having to work to put aside how excited they were to work with him.
@@leandroliberatolopes9720 my favourite is when he’s talking to Charlie
The good old days before Dobbs, and when SCOTUS doesn't think presidentials can do whatever they like.
THIS is my favorite episode of the series!
I was always annoyed that they never brought Glen Close back and why they had someone else play her character in the episode where Santos gets inaugurated.
What’s Roe vs wade? Is that something they had in the past??
Timely upload of this clip, given everything *gestures wildly around*
Samuel Alito needs to see this.
Nah, you need to stop thinking TV shows are real life. Justice Alito is a great Justice, and President Trump will add more like him during the next 4 years
Just as a reminder, your side has a Justice that can't define a woman (but has been told to support a woman to replace Biden) and another that admitted her job causes her to cry uncontrollably. She's also the one that doesn't believe citizens have the right to protect themselves, even though she has armed protection every time she goes outside. You belong to the party of stupid
We need this today.
Where is the Close/Finctner scene?? Of all the episodes from the worst season of my favorite show and you do pick the best episode, but you left out the best scene featuring Glenn freaking Close and William freaking Finctner that should be available during the June/July "major SCOTUS Stuff" season and I want it.
I wish I lived in this world.
America needs to grow and catch up regarding reproductive rights. I don’t know how women there stand it. But I guess that’s what you get from a country founded on a Puritan theocracy.
LOL. You really should find out the US is way more ok with killing babies than any other 1st world country
I understand the criticism. But as an American some women just see protecting the child to be an important issue. Also majority of Americans disagree with late term abortions. And everyone hates abortion in general. People support abortion for justifiable reasons. But we also want women and men to be accountable for their actions. Ie having the kid.
I hate to break it to you, but if you're still using the term 'reproductive rights' as a facade to prevent people from talking about what's really going on - the killing of the unborn - then it's you who needs to catch up. Also, the United States was not founded on "Puritan theocracy", but rather on freedom of religion.
Well I've been waiting for this one. Excellent episode... would have loved to see some of the interaction between Lang and Mulready.
At the end of the clip Jed drinks from his water to give the staff a minute to regroup
West Wing = Masterpiece
This has to be one of the best West Wing episodes ever.
Great episode, loved it
No, Leo. We're not going with Brad Shelton.
Loved the way they worked it out.
One of my favorite episodes
Who wouldn't want Cruella DeVille as a judge in the Supreme Court?
*This is one of my fave episodes in the whole series.*
How can we clone this fictional character and get 9 of her on the Supreme Court?
this series needs a reboot
I love the concept but the reality will be different. Imagine the Kardasian of choice as Leo.
And here we are. Dobbs decision formed around admittedly medieval moral arguments, approved by six ultra conservative "independent and impartial' justices...three of whom were put there by a monster to enforce his ruthless will.
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"I love her, I love her mind, I love her shoes..."
Glenn Close was magnificent
This clip is frustrating because everyone who wrung their hands over the judge who had an abortion is exactly representative of everyone who got us where we are today. Jeb's hesitation is frustrating, too, when he advocates for her then says he's sticking with his first pick (but in classic West Wing style, changes his mind at the end). This is one of the major problems with The West Wing - it influenced a generation of political figures who felt the need to cleave to moderate appeasement. It landed us Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Coney Barrett. Don't worship this show too much. It's responsible for a lot of our current political reality, and I think most of us don't really like that.
I don’t know why we just so caviller throwing ”Jed” instead of President Bartlett 😂
Wow, how this has aged...
Toby is so smitten...
20 years to get this world. Who decided that factoid? Oh without apology? We were all drafted press ganged 😮 ignored!🤬 Yup. Fatal Attraction😊
This is a great scene and it's also where they lose me. She's brilliant. They know it. That makes her the nominee. Not to dangle her out there to put some milquetoast tight ass on the bench.
I'm so looking forward to the bottom-feeders returning to power in a few months.
Oh politics in the 90s was so gentle...
"I live her mind, I love her shoes"😂😂
One of the best episodes ever.
I remember watching this as a gay man in college. When Josh said i love her, i did too. I hate how much of the fictitious nightmare scenarios from this show Trump created.
Trump created? LOL. The next 4 years is going to be a hard time for you. Booming economy, world peace and a closed border. Everything you hate.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣This aged POORLY!
"I love her shoes"
Not one penny
RIP Roe v Wade.
There was this guy. He went on stage in a presidential debate and said some really weird things about when a pregnancy can be terminated.
I miss this show so much.
she didn't kill 15 million children, she killed one. That being said, would i stop her from getting a job from her past? Are we stopping everyone that has done something we don't like from working?
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At 4:06 Bartlet makes the argument "are we discarding anybody else for legal activities?". This is a clever play, but is a strawman argument. He is conflating "legal" with "moral", which are certainly not always the same thing. The first is absolute. The latter varies person-to-person, is relative, and sometimes abandons logic. Assuming 'legal' is complied with, voters and people generally do very much take 'moral' into consideration, even if no law has been broken. If you're judging someone's character about anything of weight, 'legal' is a very low bar to get over.
This is from Season 5, so is after Aaron Sorkin [creator and writer of seasons 1-4] had left the show. I'm convinced that Sorkin would have armed Jed with a better attack vector, and I can't help but wonder what it would be. In my opinion, Glenn Close [Evelyn Lang] plays the character absolutely superbly, and shows that she has earned her top-tier credentials with talent and hard work rather than mere 'celebrity'. I love this show.
While Aaron Sorkin's show was well produced, acted, and written, comparing the murder of a child in the womb of the mother to a tonsillectomy is beyond wrong in every way possible. Was the child in question at fault for being conceived? Is any child at fault for being conceived?
You all should read Exodus chapter 20 through the end of the Book of Deuteronomy, because that's the parameter by which Yeshua Ha'Mashiach, the Savior of mankind, will be prosecuting His Millennial Reign on Jerusalem. Shalom.
I’m curious why I, or anyone, should care what the Bible says about any topic.
Also an abortion, like a tonsillectomy is a medical procedure so the comparison is spot on, and neither is murder.
@@purdybill Reducing the killing of an unborn child to "a medical procedure" is a way of dehumanizing the person whose life is taken away. Pro-abortion / pro-choice people use these words games as a way of hiding what's truly being done during an abortion. Please don't fall for it!
What right? The right to deny an innocent pre-born baby of life, liberty or property without due process of law!
Oh, stop it. You bring in innocence as if a fetus has consciousness and a moral compass. You make up the term "pre-born" because you are arguing an invented concept. You say "baby" to confuse the flow of time and growth.
You imply that there is life to deprive when the first breath has not been taken, and there is simply nobody there to deprive.
You are trying to deprive the grown person involved of their liberty and their property, and possibly their life.
Most abortions are done for good reasons. Just because you believe otherwise gives you no right to impose your beliefs on others.
Roe v Wade clearly pointed out that the rights given in the Constitution make it impossible to ban abortion in the USA. What Constitutional rights are you depriving us of?
Ah, there is where science comes in. You're looking at the issue through your religious glasses. Take them off and you should look at the issue as scientist would, that an embryo, a fetus, is not a baby. Scientifically there is a growth, but it is illogical to argue that such a growth is life at the early stages and therefore has no rights and there isn't any due process.
There is a moral argument to be made, but the religious right always fails to do that clearly. (That would be that although only an embryo, a fetus, unless circumstances change it will logically become a baby. Is it morally right to stop that process because someone finds it inconvenient to have the child? Then they should've been more careful while having sex. Making a child at any stage is one that shouldn't be taken lightly.) My answer to that, though, is that if that is way the right feels, then why does the concern for the child stop immediately after it is born? How many of these unwanted children usually born to the poor end in foster care and grow up to be criminals. Shame on the right for fighting to stop abortion and not continuing the fight to care for all children equally. What a bunch of hypocrites. Even by your own statement, you deprive born babies of life, liberty, and often due process as they get older.
No, the right not to force a person to endure a pregnancy so sadists can get off on her pain.
That argument is true but would have more weight if the great concern continued throughout her childhood .does it? How do you feel about funding those programs
@@adamjeffries7235 So, parents are free to kill their children based on their income, do I have that right?
More wrong seasons