The West Wing- First Female Chief Justice

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  • The West Wing-Season 5ep17 The Supremes. Mainly through Josh Lymans initiative and a helpful idea from Donna the President is able to appoint the countrys first ever female chief justice in Evelyn Baker-Lang

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  • @ArtemisScribe
    @ArtemisScribe 5 лет назад +525

    That moment when Glenn Close manages to convey the enormity of the moment just by hesitating to add the words "Chief Justice" on a piece of paper brings me to tears. What an incredible actress.

    • @robbabcock_
      @robbabcock_ 2 года назад +7

      These were some of the best moments on TV.

    • @ZATennisFan
      @ZATennisFan 2 года назад +6

      It strikes me that the real art in acting is often about what is it not said rather than what is said...

    • @prismaticmarcus
      @prismaticmarcus Год назад +5

      @@ZATennisFan Claire Foy in The Crown does silence brilliantly

    • @ktwashere5637
      @ktwashere5637 11 месяцев назад +2

      there were some incredible guest stars on the West Wing but she is up there with the best of them

    • @michaelhayden725
      @michaelhayden725 2 месяца назад +2

      I am not sure which, in reality, is going to make a greater impact: the first female Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court, or the first female US President. Hopefully we will see one of those questions answered in November.

  • @victorli2000
    @victorli2000 6 лет назад +411

    I always liked Fichtner's character. He was so smart he, basically, debated himself most of the time.

    • @jonathangwynne1917
      @jonathangwynne1917 6 лет назад +21

      Yeah, like how Bobby Fisher would play chess with himself because who else could he find to challenge him?

    • @cryofpaine
      @cryofpaine 3 года назад +54

      Someone who could hold a stance, but see the merits of opposing views, and wouldn't let his own beliefs color his decisions. In other words, what a judge (especially a Supreme Court Justice) should be.

    • @GaiaOne
      @GaiaOne 3 года назад +5

      And he was fabulous as the Accountant in Drive Angry...

    • @johngregory4801
      @johngregory4801 Год назад +4

      AND he was a fan of chain-yanking.

    • @jellomarx
      @jellomarx 4 месяца назад +1

      The court works best when there are ethical many different opinions?

  • @sfranc01
    @sfranc01 8 месяцев назад +35

    Remembering a time when the Supreme court was held with such reverence and respect.

  • @artisanstudios180
    @artisanstudios180 4 года назад +129

    I find it funny that Toby "you're gonna jinx it" Ziegler asked her to sign her title prematurely. That's how much it means to him.

  • @jerrybobteasdale
    @jerrybobteasdale 6 лет назад +288

    I loved the West Wing's storyline of choosing Supreme Court justices. William Fichtner and Glenn Close were something like perfect together.

    • @cwildeman
      @cwildeman 3 года назад +17

      I would gladly watch an entire episode devoted solely to the two of them debating some issue.

    • @Willysmb44
      @Willysmb44 2 года назад

      You're dead on there, Duke. I hoped we'd see more of them in later episodes but it wasn't to be

    • @anjaplushenka5995
      @anjaplushenka5995 2 года назад

      *This is one of my fave episodes in the entire series. I regularly rewatch it, haha. And you're right, the casting for the two justice nominees was spot on. Casting director/executive's brilliant.*

    • @davepullin8572
      @davepullin8572 4 месяца назад

      @@anjaplushenka5995 May be this is what should be done in real life: the president must nominate 2 - one acceptable each side.

    • @anjaplushenka5995
      @anjaplushenka5995 4 месяца назад +2

      @@davepullin8572 *Nope. This only happened because there were 2 vacant seats, one was a conservative justice who died, the other was the Chief Justice's who resigned because he wanted to see another young, liberal lion. The President must always choose a justice nominee who she or he thinks will serve the Court and the people well.*

  • @geniusfollower
    @geniusfollower 7 лет назад +497

    Oh, To give your daughter a copy of the fourteenth amendment signed by the first female chief justice. This show was. Just.

    • @robertchandler4033
      @robertchandler4033 7 лет назад +10

      my only problem with this scene is that previous shows showed Toby to be superstitious

    • @cjvince
      @cjvince 5 лет назад +15

      @@robertchandler4033 The White House had already made a deal with the Senate Judiciary Committee guaranteeing Justice Baker-Langs confirmation, hence Toby had no reason to be superstitious.

    • @alicelu5691
      @alicelu5691 5 лет назад +2

      there are lots of them in US...

    • @jan-olofharnvall8760
      @jan-olofharnvall8760 4 года назад +3

      geniusfollower : brilliant🤓🇸🇪🇺🇸☑️

    • @maemaree33
      @maemaree33 4 года назад +1

      @MikeJames6 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

  • @geniehossain3738
    @geniehossain3738 5 лет назад +334

    “Hang on, I gotta write this down...”
    God damn I love this show.

    • @bexie1992
      @bexie1992 4 года назад

      He sounded sarcastic to me.

    • @Heckleburger
      @Heckleburger 4 года назад

      @Thor Swenson What in the hell does being transexual or bisexual have to do with Dule Hill? Get a grip...

    • @fatboy1333
      @fatboy1333 4 года назад +1

      @@Heckleburger the left has to make everything about minorities or lgbt+ to pull sympathy for their backwards and impossible ideologies.

    • @Heckleburger
      @Heckleburger 4 года назад +8

      @@fatboy1333 While a fraction of what you say may have merit. Let's be real though, while the left may use them as a voting block it is only because the right purposely passes legislation made to disenfranchise them. That is like flyover states constantly voting against their own interest and believing being educated is wrong and leftist. While I am a centrist at heart who swings both ways on the pole I can see hypocrisy in both parties.

    • @almostfm
      @almostfm 4 года назад +9

      @Thor Swenson The point he was making was that if you want to convince someone of your argument, you're not going to do it by raising the same argument they've rejected multiple times, but rather try a different tack. In this case, that affirmative action should be done because it works. African Americans who benefit are more likely to contribute to society. They get better paying jobs-that reduces minority poverty. Reducing poverty means there are fewer angry black men who want to work, but can't get a decent job because they don't have the skills. And Charlie is bright enough to see where that argument is heading.

  • @anjaplushenka5995
    @anjaplushenka5995 2 года назад +103

    *This remains one of my favorite episodes in the entire series. I regularly rewatch it, haha. Brilliant, spot-on casting of Close and Fichtner for the two justice nominees. Always a joy to watch this episode.*

  • @jaspdx63
    @jaspdx63 3 года назад +158

    The exchange between Mulready and Charlie on AA is a wonderful example of the intellectual honesty needed by our top decision-makers. You understand and attack the strongest counter to your position. Moreover, you encourage the people on the other side of a debate to bring their best game. That is the only way the conversation moves forward.

    • @shahmask
      @shahmask 3 года назад +13

      Unfortunately, the intellectualism once prominent on the right side has continued to dwindle, with conspiracy theories and bigotry the prevailers. As a 22 year old watching this nearly 20 years ago, I have looked forward to a scene such as this. Instead, we got Merrick Garland's nomination held up for half a year and got Gorsuch, who I still can't follow where his reasoning comes from, and Kavenaugh, who couldn't hold his temper during questioning, in a position where we often think you should be level headed and intellectual.

    • @lordhawkeye
      @lordhawkeye Год назад +1

      @@shahmask Confession through projection much?

    • @shahmask
      @shahmask Год назад +6

      @@lordhawkeye I have never willfully withheld required disclosures, I have never said one thing during an interview and did the complete opposite, I have never lost my temper in front of a live judiciary on TV, I have never taken away rights from others, not sure what kind of projection or confession you're talking about

    • @mjsteele42
      @mjsteele42 Год назад +1

      @@shahmask
      Amusing that you fail to see that both sides of the political aisle have devolved into mudslinging and personal attacks.
      Your stance is precisely how we got here: refusing to acknowledge that one's own party is actually guilty of many of the misdeeds they accuse the others of.

    • @shahmask
      @shahmask Год назад +1

      @@mjsteele42 please tell me what rights have been taken away of others that have harmed them within their own home?

  • @austinfry5977
    @austinfry5977 2 года назад +76

    I have always loved the small handshake at 2:09 between Fichtner and Close' characters. Just a subtle detail to capture respect and awe for the moment for them. It's two people who are the top of their field and have polar opposite views, at times, yet are about to set off on an adventure together. Just love it for some reason.

    • @chriscarter5720
      @chriscarter5720 Год назад +3

      I think it's because, although they hold opposing views, they are each honest about those views and respect that honesty in the other. Politics in the 20th and 21st century seems to have become less about doing what is right for the country and more about what the individual politician can gain from his/her actions. Honesty and respect for others seem to have disappeared somewhere (probably out looking for morality and integrity which also seem unknown to modern politicians). What I like most about the West Wing is that from Jed Bartlett on down all of the characters try to be guided in their action by what is morally right - even if sometimes expediency gets in the way and doing the right thing has to give way to just doing the best they can.

    • @seanmcmurphy4744
      @seanmcmurphy4744 3 месяца назад

      @@chriscarter5720 The reason is the huge historic change in our information ecosystem in the early 2000s caused by social media

  • @levalpat
    @levalpat 5 лет назад +717

    I am a moderate republican.... but I keep watching these wonderful excerpts from West Wing.... and wish that we had a president as erudite and caring as this one... even if I would disagree with some of his policies.

    • @shawnstrode3825
      @shawnstrode3825 4 года назад +40

      As shown in this episode, it's the debating of ideas and finding a balance that is good for all Americans not just one party. I vote on actions not party, more research but I feel good about my vote.

    • @alexandra.willitts6988
      @alexandra.willitts6988 4 года назад +5

      We've probably had a few already, just possibly not in the last 50 years or more.......

    • @jbreezy101
      @jbreezy101 4 года назад +8

      Love ur comment Johnny.

    • @Dannycarry
      @Dannycarry 4 года назад +9

      Let us live in hope that in 2020 we might get one.

    • @cbalmori
      @cbalmori 4 года назад +8

      erudite and caring… you said it, buddy… the rest can all be debated in good faith

  • @glennlorenz9109
    @glennlorenz9109 2 года назад +53

    I fell down the rabbit whole of watching clips of the West Wing. I really miss this show and miss what our country could be!

    • @Purfefun2
      @Purfefun2 4 месяца назад

      Well we have millions "Making America Great Again," whatever the Hell that is.

    • @AndrewRobbins-d2e
      @AndrewRobbins-d2e 3 месяца назад

      I miss noncrazy politics

    • @seanmcmurphy4744
      @seanmcmurphy4744 3 месяца назад +1

      Same! But I think the current generation will reject crazy and turn it around

  • @simonleib1992
    @simonleib1992 3 месяца назад +25

    West Wing was a Magnificent series. Awesome cast, incredible acting, wonderful characters.

    • @wholeNwon
      @wholeNwon 27 дней назад +1

      Great writing.

  • @bovnycccoperalover3579
    @bovnycccoperalover3579 6 лет назад +319

    It's a tribute to the show that they were able to get an actress of Glenn Close's character for one program.

    • @JnEricsonx
      @JnEricsonx 5 лет назад +13

      She did a season of the show The Shield. Blew my mind seeing her show up in the new season trailer.

    • @mxg75
      @mxg75 5 лет назад +22

      What's really amazing is they were able to get her back for a non-speaking cameo to swear in Santos in the series finale.

    • @cjvince
      @cjvince 5 лет назад +4

      @@mxg75 The role of "Chief Justice" in the episode "Tomorrow" was credited to Ann Ryerson.

    • @sfranc01
      @sfranc01 4 года назад +1

      Matthew Geer sadly that wasn’t her. Just a lookalike. I wish they had though

    • @bjrneirikstrkersen1021
      @bjrneirikstrkersen1021 4 года назад

      Babylon 5 was greater. They had Martin Sheen on for a TV movie, complete with dorky alien makeup.

  • @timnewton1073
    @timnewton1073 Год назад +23

    I can't tell you how much I wish there had been a spinoff following clerks in the supreme court and those two as justices. It would have been amazing to see the discussions and debates behind the scenes.

  • @michaelgabriel7919
    @michaelgabriel7919 3 года назад +38

    The entire story was a masterpiece of TV drama and it still makes me proud. The appointment of two Justices... a decision made in compromise... and it is all due to Donna's parents and their inability to decide which pet to chose.
    Masterpiece

  • @chadtopia
    @chadtopia 9 лет назад +179

    One of my favourite moments in the entire program. Glenn Close did a fantastic job with the character she played

    • @randallbanks1589
      @randallbanks1589 7 лет назад +3

      Easily one of my favorite actresses on one the greatest shows of all time. What a job she did. When I saw her I cheered.

    • @chadtopia
      @chadtopia 6 лет назад +5

      Agreed, one of my favourites too. i love the arguments between the potential justices too.

    • @Sylvander1911
      @Sylvander1911 4 года назад +1

      When doesn't she?

  • @rickrose5377
    @rickrose5377 Год назад +12

    Unbelievable. A television show that made us smarter.

  • @OverLordthe1st
    @OverLordthe1st 8 лет назад +65

    I wish i lived in this universe instead our shity one. Silica dies the first thing you here is one side celebrating and the other rushing to promise a block on obamas appointment. We dont talk it out anymore, we dont even ask we just generalize and hate each other.

    • @TheConstantSeeker
      @TheConstantSeeker 6 лет назад +2

      It's a matter of principle. Garland never had a chance because McConnell simply decided to not follow suit.

  • @Kresnov
    @Kresnov 6 лет назад +92

    I miss these people being in my house once a week.

  • @caseycdecker
    @caseycdecker 9 лет назад +275

    Best thing the post-Sorkin writers wrote

    • @antourte1
      @antourte1 8 лет назад +13

      +Casey Decker I liked the election arc fine, but hands down best of season 5 :)

    • @ptroinks
      @ptroinks 6 лет назад +4

      Couldn't agree more!

    • @blackhawkswincup2010
      @blackhawkswincup2010 6 лет назад +2

      and better than a lot of the ones he did...

    • @KasbashPlays
      @KasbashPlays 5 лет назад

      I always forget that this is after Sorkin.

    • @scatullo
      @scatullo 4 года назад +3

      Casting made a massive difference though, two great guest stars

  • @paulwagner688
    @paulwagner688 3 года назад +13

    The best scene in this episode is when Mulready and Lang are arguing in front of Toby and Josh. THAT is how SCOTUS is supposed to work.

  • @dennis4189
    @dennis4189 8 лет назад +110

    Oh, were the real world to run like this.

    • @zugrook101
      @zugrook101 8 лет назад +2

      +Dennis S Ditto

    • @brontewcat
      @brontewcat 5 лет назад +2

      It can run like this but not yet in the US. The Chief Justice of the High Court of Australia (equivalent of the US Supreme Court) is a woman. It will happen eventually.

    • @robertchandler5055
      @robertchandler5055 5 лет назад +3

      If half this show happened how would ANYTHING GET ACCOMPLISHED WITH ALL THE CHEERING AND CRYING (for joy not sadness)

    • @JavierArveloCruzSantana
      @JavierArveloCruzSantana 5 лет назад +1

      The show was aspirational, after all. 😊

  • @JustBronzeThingsLoL
    @JustBronzeThingsLoL Год назад +2

    i dont know how Richard Schiff manages to put so much acting into an essentially blank expression.

  • @UncleGagag
    @UncleGagag 12 лет назад +119

    I love the look on her face when she adds her title - the enormity of what she's about to become sinks in. Gets me every time!

  • @timmooney6910
    @timmooney6910 4 года назад +47

    I’ve seen this clip a number of times and I just realized that this is the only time that by having her sign using the title of Chief Justice that Toby has tempted the “wrath of whoever from high atop the thing”. Not his usual behavior.

    • @Kailaa3
      @Kailaa3 4 года назад +3

      Omg yes! We do not tempt fate. :)

    • @kimcornelissen1529
      @kimcornelissen1529 4 года назад +1

      well considering that the deal had already been made with the republican party that they could have who they wanted and Bartlett then got who he wanted it was a fate a complie

    • @daviddundas4140
      @daviddundas4140 3 года назад +1

      He went outside, turned round 3 times and spat, and cursed.

    • @RavenheartIndustries
      @RavenheartIndustries 3 года назад +1

      And rumor has it... it froze

  • @dweir2584
    @dweir2584 5 лет назад +32

    01:56 Two heavyweight actors showing how to act with just by their eyes. Wonderful moment.

  • @estavanjuarez4042
    @estavanjuarez4042 4 года назад +53

    RIP RBG. Immediately thought of this episode.

    • @keitht24
      @keitht24 3 года назад +1

      The situation we find ourselves in is her fault. She should've retired after Obama won his first term. He had a suoer majority in both houses & could've easily replaced her with a like minded justice. Instead she hung on until we git stuck with Trump appointees.

    • @wthwasthat8884
      @wthwasthat8884 3 года назад +1

      @@keitht24 It's her fault she didn't have a crystal ball essentially......

    • @keitht24
      @keitht24 3 года назад +1

      @@wthwasthat8884 Actually yes, it is her fault. She'd had major health issues for years. She didn't die suddenly from some random event. Her health had been in decline for quite some time.

    • @wthwasthat8884
      @wthwasthat8884 3 года назад +6

      @@keitht24 Any chance you could give me the lottery numbers for next month since you have such amazing foresight?

    • @yao052
      @yao052 3 года назад +1

      @@wthwasthat8884 well tyro apache isn't wrong. Obama tried to get her to retire before the midterms in 2014 but she wanted to stay because she was afraid she would be bored at home since her husband died and because she hoped that a woman (Hillary running in 2016 was the worst kept secret in Washington at the time) would name her replacement.
      As much as I feel for her, that was selfish on her part. Thurgood Marshall made the same mistake and look who ended up being his successor, Clarence freaking Thomas who was nominated at age 40. Conservative judges do play the long game. Look at how Kennedy retired.
      I just hope that Breyer doesn't make the same mistake.

  • @AndreAFirenze
    @AndreAFirenze 7 лет назад +32

    the true masterpiece of Josh as deputy chief of staff.

  • @fawnebrown4619
    @fawnebrown4619 6 лет назад +20

    One of the best episodes of The West Wing. Made even better with Glenn Close and William Fichtner.

    • @jonathangwynne1917
      @jonathangwynne1917 6 лет назад +5

      Fichner was awesome. His scenes were the best in the episode.

  • @tracyroweauthor
    @tracyroweauthor 3 года назад +58

    I love this episode. The debating between Fichtner and Glenn Close was so brilliantly written. Showing that a conservative ideologue could also be invested in interpreting the Constitution without their own personal agenda was brilliant but also, as evidenced lately, a bit of wishful thinking. Or, maybe just hope in the future of our country.

    • @talavb9301
      @talavb9301 2 года назад +2

      Our current justices are damn good I'd say. Gorsuch, Roberts, Kagan, and Breyer are all top-notich jurists imho

    • @marystewart864
      @marystewart864 2 года назад

      @@talavb9301 History will prove the error of this statement. They are bought and paid for and base judgements not on the constitution but on the self interest of the millionaires/billionaires who purchased the seats.

    • @milosterwheeler2520
      @milosterwheeler2520 Год назад +1

      If only real life could be like this in today's political scene.

    • @tracyroweauthor
      @tracyroweauthor Год назад +1

      @@talavb9301 they're brilliant....if you're a facist

    • @talavb9301
      @talavb9301 Год назад

      Kagan and Breyer are fascists?

  • @dlc1119
    @dlc1119 12 лет назад +49

    I liked the show, even though I'm a bit more conservative than Sorkin et al. This was the best episode I ever saw. Close really dominates every scene she's in. Great writing, from the most trivial scene (they got both cats) to the end. The scene where Josh watches Lang walk out after the first 'interview' is just great wordless acting.
    The problem with TWW is how small our real-life politicians seem in comparison!

  • @terrygracy8345
    @terrygracy8345 2 года назад +12

    One of the best episodes ever. Close and Fichtner were perfect

  • @alisondickinson
    @alisondickinson 4 года назад +14

    Gave me goosebumps when she finished signing and looked up. what an actress Glenn Close is.

  • @tmakalpha1
    @tmakalpha1 4 года назад +12

    it really shows character development when Toby, who wanted to avoid tempting fate in the first season of the West Wing, is now willing to tempt the wrath of high above to ask for the inscription of the first nominated female chief justice

    • @retrogradebolide2198
      @retrogradebolide2198 4 года назад

      I think that is probably more of an oversight, than a character development.

  • @wheresrain
    @wheresrain 3 года назад +12

    This was one of - if not *the* best - episode from a casting standpoint in a show that was consistently excellent in casting even the most minor characters.

  • @frankhumbug
    @frankhumbug 5 лет назад +45

    “The supremes," is the stand out episode in the 5th series and maybe one of the best episodes of the WW. Thanks for posting this (bit.)

    • @atwenga
      @atwenga 5 лет назад +4

      totally agree...

    • @ArunKrishnan0709
      @ArunKrishnan0709 4 года назад +3

      Agree one of the best episodes of the show, and certainly the last 3 seasons

    • @jerodast
      @jerodast 4 года назад +1

      "The 5th season basically sucks except for The Supremes which was AWESOME!" One of the sharpest episode-to-rest-of-season contrasts in all of television I think haha.

  • @robertpolityka8464
    @robertpolityka8464 6 лет назад +61

    It would be interesting to see a future President to appoint two Supreme Court nominees in a "package deal",one of them is a liberal, the other as a conservative.

    • @wendysnelgrove5870
      @wendysnelgrove5870 5 лет назад +12

      And both of them as intelligent!

    • @arwyss
      @arwyss 4 года назад +19

      Current Republican senate would make sure they voted on the conservative first, approved them, then Moscow Mitch would refuse to have a vote on the liberal.

    • @carltontaylor6500
      @carltontaylor6500 4 года назад

      Adam R. Wyss what really disconcerting is that if things stand as is I don’t think RBG has another 4 years and Thomas will likely retire pushing the court farther right.

    • @paulwagner688
      @paulwagner688 4 года назад +3

      @@carltontaylor6500 Don't worry, President Biden will appoint RBG's successor. And Breyer's, AND Thomas'

    • @KenS1267
      @KenS1267 4 года назад +1

      IIRC this is modeled on an actual event from the pre Civil War era. A pro and anti slavery justice were both replaced together to maintain the status quo.

  • @bgmcc907
    @bgmcc907 6 лет назад +20

    I’ve been on a bit of a West Wing RUclips clip bender recently, and can’t help being unable to imagine anything resembling any of them taking place under our current so called administration*.
    And not in a good way.

    • @robertchandler5055
      @robertchandler5055 3 года назад

      DON'T WORRY , BIDEN WILL FIX EVERYTHING. REMEMBER,YOU WANTED THIS GUY!

  • @michaelmuldowney8
    @michaelmuldowney8 2 года назад +4

    This is the best post Sorkin WW episode. Although it fails to mention the Bartlett appointed Justice Alberto Mendoza at any stage which always irritates me. Imagine a spin off show featuring Close, Fincher and Olmos going at it - wow.

  • @ptroinks
    @ptroinks 6 лет назад +17

    Ahhh! Evelyn Baker Lang! One of my all time favourite characters on that show, even if it was just one episode! Christopher Mulready was also an awesome character! Excellent acting on both of them!

    • @Manolo0528
      @Manolo0528 2 года назад

      When Santos is sworn in as President in the final episode the Chief Justice is a blonde female. Chief Justice Lang is still there even if she’s not portrayed by Glenn Close.

    • @nataliasepulveda8957
      @nataliasepulveda8957 Год назад

      @@Manolo0528 Actually, if you put caption, you can read that it is Evelyn Baker Lang as Chief Justice who sworn Santos as President, that type of details it is amazing and it is why The West Wing is one of my favorite shows in TV

    • @Manolo0528
      @Manolo0528 Год назад +1

      @@nataliasepulveda8957 Except in the episode where they appointed Lang & the new AJ, WW read off the names of the sitting Justices & Mendoza, who was appointed by Bartlett in Season 1, was not listed.

  • @arwyss
    @arwyss 3 года назад +2

    See, if this were set in the current times, the Republican senate would immediately confirm the conservative, then refuse to hold hearings for the liberal.

  • @jeanettesagarsee5582
    @jeanettesagarsee5582 Год назад +6

    I think this was my favorite episode. It was just what two sides should be--able to discuss their differences, not just yell at each other.

  • @suncore598
    @suncore598 10 лет назад +29

    Glenn Close on the West Wing. Wow.

  • @thomasstengel7356
    @thomasstengel7356 Год назад +6

    This series is worth rewatching every few years if only for the reminder of what we're supposed to be as a country. Is it a bit too saccharine and idealistic at times? For sure. But, that's also what makes it so great. With a huge dose of integrity and caring for others, it could, in some ways, be reality.

  • @udeservewealth3323
    @udeservewealth3323 4 года назад +9

    The best series I have watched ni TV in my life! Aaron Sorkin created a legacy and model not only about a series but about what a leader should be! When I hear what we have and what they show in the series I wonder how can we get there...

  • @timothy9596
    @timothy9596 4 года назад +4

    How is it watching a scene from a 20 year old show can make me emotional to the point where I'm almost in tears? I think it's two reasons. First, this show was absolutely brilliant. And second, we have a pathological lying, bigot, racist, narcissist, five-time draft dodging coward scumbag in The White House who's shredding the Constitution and our republic with every action and word that comes out of that sewer he calls a mouth. How the fuck did we get here as a country? I'm not a fan of Biden. He's a moderate conservative parading around as a liberal. But if he doesn't win in November, we can kiss our country goodbye.

    • @jasonrfoss248
      @jasonrfoss248 3 месяца назад

      Nice pearl clutching you’ve got there. I’ll take a President who says mean things and gets things done over the grandfatherly hair sniffer who shits down his leg.

  • @colethornton4285
    @colethornton4285 5 лет назад +29

    Has there ever been another television show that had so many incredible inspiring scenes such as this?

  • @DavidConstantin-d1d
    @DavidConstantin-d1d 10 месяцев назад +3

    What a great scene and great episode. I especially enjoyed William Fichtner’s character arguing both sides of Affirmative Action. Brilliant writing.

  • @johnolatunji271
    @johnolatunji271 4 года назад +8

    God Bless Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg

    • @RandomGuy285
      @RandomGuy285 3 года назад

      RIP

    • @davidstorrs
      @davidstorrs 3 года назад

      She was a wonderful woman and a wonderful SCOTUS justice...but I really wish she had said to her doctors "No matter what, you keep my body alive until after the new POTUS is sworn in."

    • @gypzs9
      @gypzs9 Год назад

      RBG, she gave us all she had. How we miss her.

  • @JeanetteKatie
    @JeanetteKatie 3 года назад +9

    Loved this episode, how they were able to bring in someone from both sides.

  • @titus2120
    @titus2120 2 месяца назад +2

    For me, this may have been the very best episode of the West Wing. She is for me the most majestic American actress living…

  • @angelrios5897
    @angelrios5897 5 лет назад +6

    I honestly think this is how it should be done. The President’s staff negotiated with the Republican controlled Senate Judiciary Committee and Chamber to guarantee Baker-Lang’s confirmation, so long as they got to fill the other seat.
    Imagine, the majority gets a seat, the minority gets a seat. I think it would take a lot of contention out of the process.

    • @BigZ282
      @BigZ282 5 лет назад +3

      It's not very often that more than one seat comes open. This only worked on the show because they had an aging liberal Chief Justice would could be convinced to step down if they could get a liberal like Lang to replace him. In the real world, it's normally only one seat that comes open at a time, there are instances where the Chief Justice steps down or dies and an Associate Justice is nominated to replace him, but even then only one seat is being filled at a time because the Associate Justice isn't kicked off the court if he or she ins't confirmed to be the new Chief Justice.
      Would it be nice to see Democrats and Republicans come together to preserve the balance of the court by allowing say Justice Ginsberg and Justice Thomas to retire while filling their seats with people of similar ideology, of course it would. But it can't happen because the Court has been turned into a weapon by both sides and neither of them would be willing to give up the chance of gaining a seat and further swinging the balance of the court in their favor.

    • @yao052
      @yao052 4 года назад +1

      Zackery Baum Well had the Republicans not committed a judicial coup by not even giving Garland a hearing, it might have been possible. The dems base is already pissed of about how they let Gorsuch through without a fight. A deal like the one Josh struck would be political suicide in today's political climate.

    • @Mark-xh8md
      @Mark-xh8md 3 года назад

      @@yao052 - How is it a coup to not click your heels when Messiah Obama gives orders? Do you want a list of all the other presidential SCOTUS picks that didn't get confirmed?

  • @dweir2584
    @dweir2584 6 лет назад +11

    Oh, how I love this series. The benchmark to brilliant television.

  • @dcrab93
    @dcrab93 Год назад +2

    3 plus years later Matt Santos is sworn in by that Chief Justice. They should have gotten Glenn Close for that scene too.

  • @vtiger81
    @vtiger81 2 месяца назад +4

    My first time being paid as an actor was on an episode of The West Wing. We filmed on 01/04/2002, at Warner Brothers in Burbank.

    • @wholeNwon
      @wholeNwon 27 дней назад

      What was your role?

    • @vtiger81
      @vtiger81 27 дней назад

      @@wholeNwon , I was background, a scene with Bradley Whitford and Mary Louise Parker. Back when I was trying to get my union card.

    • @wholeNwon
      @wholeNwon 26 дней назад

      @@vtiger81 Oh, yes, I remember you😄

  • @jeffreynolds4416
    @jeffreynolds4416 4 года назад +4

    William Fichtner would later play Allison Janney's boyfriend on Mom.

  • @michaelvidal1971
    @michaelvidal1971 2 года назад +1

    I wonder if this kind of elegant compromise would ever happen with the current bunch of mediocrity.

  • @AlekWheeler
    @AlekWheeler 6 лет назад +10

    Canada here; we did this back in 2000. She was originally nominated in 1989 as a justice and in a few days is just retiring. Her name is Beverly Maclachlin, born in Alberta, raised in British Columbia. She legalized same sex marriage and also is widely regarded as our greatest Chief Justice.Your move America,

    • @omegacon4
      @omegacon4 5 лет назад +2

      We just elected a TV personality as our President. Then he stacked our Supreme Court with 2 conservative judges. Your move, Canada.

  • @patrickfuchs6086
    @patrickfuchs6086 4 года назад +4

    RIP Justice Ginsburg

  • @MohammadKhan-no4ly
    @MohammadKhan-no4ly 4 года назад +5

    Its through compromise this was achieved. Lesson to be learned.

  • @MegaFortinbras
    @MegaFortinbras 5 лет назад +4

    I went to Harvard, where there was considerable opposition to affirmative action. However, people from "good families" were admitted solely on the basis of that. (I had to earn my way in.)

  • @ktwashere5637
    @ktwashere5637 2 года назад +1

    Terrifying to think what Trump was doing when he was President.

  • @alexius23
    @alexius23 5 лет назад +8

    I was a bit sorry that when Santos took the oath of office Glenn Close didn’t have a cameo as Chief Justice

    • @williammassey8514
      @williammassey8514 5 лет назад

      Did anyone from WW try to get Glenn to cameo?

    • @alexius23
      @alexius23 5 лет назад

      @@williammassey8514 valid question but have no idea

    • @williammassey8514
      @williammassey8514 5 лет назад

      @@alexius23 It would have been nice.

    • @michaelolive5070
      @michaelolive5070 2 года назад +1

      Pretty sure that in the background at the ceremony they announce Chief Justice Lang and the stand-in is a blonde woman. Perhaps she was unavailable for the episode.

  • @paulwagner688
    @paulwagner688 4 года назад +15

    One of the best things about this scene, is how Mulready seems open to arguments that hold up liberal standards. He was portrayed as a conservative, yes, but a conservative who knew how to uphold the law and not make decisions based on ideology.

    • @carldamacion3740
      @carldamacion3740 4 года назад +4

      Yeah, I like how he brings up to Charlie a better argument for affirmative action.

    • @chriscarter5720
      @chriscarter5720 2 года назад

      I have loved the West Wing since I first saw it. As a Brit who knows next to nothing about the US system of government I was always impressed when, as in this episode, we see a President who is prepared to make the decisions he believes are right; no matter how hard they may be to implement. And here we see two candidates for the Supreme Court who, despite having opposite views, nonetheless respect the other and are able to put the needs of the country above their own ambitions or party. Superb writing; If only life was really like that.

  • @TimWayneSF
    @TimWayneSF 10 лет назад +55

    I have a real problem with this. I saw that woman boil a little girl's pet rabbit.

    • @Johnboydownunder
      @Johnboydownunder 10 лет назад +6

      She improved herself!

    • @joryaries63
      @joryaries63 9 лет назад +1

      You do know she did it, because it was in the script?

    • @perpetualnotion7453
      @perpetualnotion7453 8 лет назад +1

      +Jory Adamson - did I miss something; was +Tim Wayne not making a Fatal reference of sorts ;-) . The irony Tim would be that the man she had the affair with was President before Bartlet but he was an awesome Chief of Staff and best friend through those terms.

    • @oscarfun100
      @oscarfun100 7 лет назад +6

      Not to mention those 101 puppies :(

    • @nakedfaves4445
      @nakedfaves4445 7 лет назад +1

      You all also forgot to mention that she shared a joint with 2 other women and 4 men who all stayed over her house in Richmond one weekend in November of 1983...................(8^)

  • @michaelmusich809
    @michaelmusich809 2 года назад +1

    And we got Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Coney-Barrett. We lost.

  • @JavierRodriguez17565
    @JavierRodriguez17565 6 лет назад +4

    Honestly they couldn’t have picked a better woman to play the new chief justice of the Supreme Court

  • @linzzyy
    @linzzyy 6 лет назад +16

    It's moments like this that remind me how much I love this show... The West Wing had it all... humour, drama, the ability to tug at heart strings... showing that good people can have flaws and rise above them.

  • @tedsamuels8861
    @tedsamuels8861 2 года назад +2

    “OMG, you put my parents’ cats on the Supreme Court.” ~ Donna to Josh

  • @andreghouse
    @andreghouse 13 лет назад +8

    The great thing about the result of this episode, which would have to rate up in the top ten of the best episodes of the WW, is that Donna and her parents cats is what led to it all. Hows do you like them apples?

  • @dianaeubanks8595
    @dianaeubanks8595 8 лет назад +10

    Patty Hewes is on the Supreme Court! Awesome!!!!

  • @LoveABun
    @LoveABun 2 месяца назад +4

    As a woman, this brought tears to my eyes. If only in my lifetime. 🙏🏻

    • @wholeNwon
      @wholeNwon 27 дней назад

      The Chief has only one vote, just like the other 8.

  • @SantaCruzSoulSurfer
    @SantaCruzSoulSurfer 4 года назад +3

    In these troubled times, I very much hope that the voices of moderation prevail, for the sake of judicial balance within our great country!

  • @Pww642
    @Pww642 7 лет назад +8

    The thing that's always bugged me about this scene is the press gallery applauding. That does not happen.

    • @kathleens15
      @kathleens15 7 лет назад +2

      And even if they did, why doesn't the President wait for them to stop before talking?

    • @ntlespino
      @ntlespino 5 лет назад

      Not in this universe, at least

    • @samholder196
      @samholder196 5 лет назад

      Honestly, had this actually happened it would have been so momentous that there might have been overwhelming applause -- what with both ends of the political spectrum placated and the act of an profound reinvestment in the critical discourse a democracy (and judiciary) deserves.

  • @blackhawkswincup2010
    @blackhawkswincup2010 6 лет назад +2

    Great episode, love it, love the series, buy why in holy hell did the ENTIRE writing staff forget that Bartlet and Co. confirmed a liberal justice, Roberto Mendoza, in Season One??! Stupid, stupid mistake.

    • @logicisuseful
      @logicisuseful 5 лет назад +2

      blackhawkswincup2010 it’s established in the series that Mendoza surprised them all by ending up pretty much a moderate. Which is realistic enough: Souter and O’Connor both ended up being more liberal than expected.

  • @karengustafson7666
    @karengustafson7666 Год назад +5

    Some of these clips bring me to tears. This is one.

    • @wholeNwon
      @wholeNwon 27 дней назад

      That's what great writing can do.

  • @xypaddy1
    @xypaddy1 6 лет назад +6

    Funny watching him as Allison's character's love interest on MOM !

    • @fawnebrown4619
      @fawnebrown4619 4 года назад +1

      I always thought Fichtner might have gotten his role on 'Mom' based on his guest role in The West Wing. But from what I've read, they've known each other for a long time.

  • @foltie41
    @foltie41 5 лет назад +3

    My only quibble is the applause in the press room. That would not have happened, nor should it happen.

    • @jbuster9
      @jbuster9 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah, maybe a brief applause, but the adoring ovation? No.

  • @KasbashPlays
    @KasbashPlays 5 лет назад +4

    That is the softest I've ever heard Glen Close's voice go.

  • @rugbynimbus
    @rugbynimbus Месяц назад +2

    Unless you can state your opponent's position in a way they can agree with, your own argument is fundamentally flawed.

    • @thomaszinser8714
      @thomaszinser8714 Месяц назад

      Sadly a problem that is extremely common in political discussions nowadays. Especially with how many people hold multiple, contradictory positions at once.

  • @willmpet
    @willmpet Год назад +1

    I certainly wish that our Supreme Court was as wise!

  • @GrrrTurtle
    @GrrrTurtle Месяц назад +1

    I never noticed the little detail of the conservative justice taking a good faith moment with Charlie and helping Charlie restructure his argument of the liberal position - that little detail makes the character reassuring to the audience because it shows him not to be a tyrannical conservative but in fact a thoughtful human with an understanding of place and personal responsibility. In this case, the responsibility to set a foundation that will help to mold Charlie's intellect and well-roundedness as a person. That detail is amazing.

  • @fooman2108
    @fooman2108 5 месяцев назад +1

    That show was SO GREAT! Highlighting what American politics SHOULD BE, what staffs MUST BE, and what OFFICE HOLDERS NEED TO RETURN TO BEING! THE BEST, BRIGHTEST, MOST DRIVEN, MOST DEDICATED, MOST WILLING TO LEAD THIS COUNTRY. SHAMEFULLY, our current crop of politician ended, when this show ended (and is no longer there to REMIND US), which is what politicians/politics SHOULD/COULD/NEED TO BE!

  • @garywebb1199
    @garywebb1199 4 года назад +2

    Unfortunately, shows such as West Wing and Newsroom appear to set the standard too high with intelligent discussions and decisions made for the benefit of the American people instead of political parties.

  • @decadencewhimsyandsarcasm
    @decadencewhimsyandsarcasm 2 года назад +1

    i know the show wasnt as phenomenal since sorkin left, but, it still clearly had moments that reached the heights of the sorkin years.

  • @howardford9311
    @howardford9311 4 года назад +4

    I loved this program only if we had that kind of government now

    • @davidstorrs
      @davidstorrs 3 года назад +1

      I have that feeling from Sorkin a lot... "I wish *this* was how reality was."

  • @YouzTube99
    @YouzTube99 6 лет назад +2

    Lots of discussion here about the writing so let's give credit to Debora Cahn and Josh Singer.

  • @duyanhpro10
    @duyanhpro10 Год назад +1

    I'd like to think that at President Barlet 's funeral, both Lang and Mendoza would be there.

  • @googoo-gjoob
    @googoo-gjoob 4 года назад +9

    The *GREATEST* show in the _HISTORY_ of television.

  • @marcziegenhain8420
    @marcziegenhain8420 4 года назад +1

    Some of the Who is Who of Hollywood appeared in this show. Just great.

  • @neiloerlemans1029
    @neiloerlemans1029 7 месяцев назад +1

    See the judge is better known for his role as the Bank Manager in the second Batman film opposite heath ledger

  • @dcg509
    @dcg509 4 года назад +2

    This would not be done in press room, Rose Garden or East Room!

    • @roobear78
      @roobear78 4 года назад

      there would be more a chance of it takeing place on neptune in real life than anywhere in the whitehouse!

  • @johnceragioli9671
    @johnceragioli9671 5 лет назад +3

    Amazing!! Compromise, something ALL of our politicians should learn to do.

    • @robertchandler5055
      @robertchandler5055 4 года назад

      I AM A RIGHT LEANING LIBERTARIAN AND I BELIEVE THREATS TO BURN IT DOWN BY BLM AND ANTIFA ARE MUCH BETTER THAN COMPROMISE...WOULD LOVE TO HEAR BARTTLETS THOUGHTS ON "MOSTLY PEACEFUL PRROTESTS"

  • @michaelreece2966
    @michaelreece2966 2 года назад +9

    This was one of Joshes finest moments. The ending where they plan to him is perfect.

  • @tosaye
    @tosaye 2 года назад +1

    Jed Bartlet has such a commanding speech voice.

  • @Mg43-v7w
    @Mg43-v7w Год назад +1

    Did the president pocket Toby’s pen ? I think he did.

  • @davidlamb1107
    @davidlamb1107 5 лет назад +1

    Bartlett of all people would have known that the job title is "Chief Justice of the United States", not "Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court".

  • @Surlish
    @Surlish 12 лет назад +12

    I wish that the conservatives on the real life Supreme Court were more like Mulredy. What an awesome character!

  • @jerodast
    @jerodast 11 месяцев назад +1

    Aren't they worried about bringing down the wrath from high atop the thing?