For more two cents, I'd say you guys never need to apologize for making a longer video. I always learn so much from what you both have to say. In any case, once again, thanks so much for this! I'm currently looking to buy/build my very first AR, and I feel I can take your advice to the bank. You guys rock!
I personally love the longer videos. I'll always take more information and knowledge from those more in the know, and I'll take as much as they're willing to give.
Every second or your presentation had valuable information. No wasted rambling and ranting like Nutnfancy - although Most of his are very good evaluations by actually running the product and some hard use. So very educational but sometimes a bit long because of unnecessary babbling
I could only ever dream of standing in the sunshine discussing my AR 15s in the land of the free.. Here in shitty England i get frowned upon owning my GSG522 ,22lr.. God bless America
"When the government fears the people, there is Liberty...." Finally someone that understands the principles that this country was founded upon. We are the sovereigns not the criminal psychopaths in the legislature that we euphemistically call government.
Man ....I love these guys!! I watch a bit of Gun Gripes every day while drinking my coffee and doing my push ups!!!.....These guys know their shit!!! Awesome job 👏
Chad's comments about forging at 20:48 are incorrect. Pouring metal into a mold is a casting, not a forging. Using a sand mold (think engine parts like heads, blocks, water pumps, etc.) is sand-casting, which requires machining on certain surfaces and leaves a rough surface. Using a smooth mold is die-casting (think of metal model cars). Using a lost-wax process where the molten metal displaces a wax model is investment casting (used in more-precise engine parts). Forging involves hammering processes to basically "flow" the metal grain into realignment and a different shape. Think of the creation of an edged weapon, like a knife or a sword. The basic shape is created with the forging process, then certain surfaces are machined (i.e. the edge of a knife) or the whole part is then machined more precisely.
By the way I want to thank you for your for your video, i learn a lot in a short time, cant wait to get started, I am a Viet Nam disable veteran, thank again
Will yall ever or have you ever done a 14.5 with a pinned and welded A2 style like you have with your flash hider or 3 port comp. Just aesthetics but would be nice. Love using your barrels.
every day I am more amazed at how far the ar has come from Eugene stoner , up through military implementation, and then the civy market. flipping astonishing how this gun is around 50 years old and still improving , unreal
Best 5 gun video since the loss of Barry (RIP Barry) You guys did great touched on every topic without going into too much detail. I am towards the end of my dream AR15 build. I went with Palmetto State Armory' upper and lower receivers as well as their NiB BCG. Their 16" stainless, mid length, mid contour barrel with a VG6 Epsilon brake. A Geissele SSA-E trigger. Noveske/Magpul ambi 60 degree short through safety . All Magpul furniture MOE+ grip, ACS stock, enhanced aluminum trigger guard, B.A.D. Lever, and the MBUS PRO offset sights. For glass I mounted the Nikon M-223 BDC 600 3-12x42SF on the M-223 mount. Along with Inforce WMLx 500 lumen and a RePlay PrimeX 1080 action camera. All I have left to get is the Magpul ASAP QD, MS4 sling, m-lok afg and to pick between the Midwest Industries 15" lightweight m-lok series free float rail or wait for the Geissele 15" MK4 m-lok. The waiting weight and cost of the MK4 is pushing me towards Midwest Industries rail. What do ya think... should I wait?
Great video guys. I just bought my first AR. Sounds like I got a great deal, on a quality rifle. It's a DelTon, with a chrome moly 16" 1:7 twist barrel. Came upgraded with a "slim" 15" Mlok free floated hand guard, and a full length pica tinny top rail. Mid-length, low profile gas system. Contoured trigger guard. Aluminum upper, and lower. Dust cover, and forward assist. Everything else mil-spec. $475. I added a 2 MOA red dot, with co-witness BUIS, and a BAD lever. This thing runs like a dream, and I LOVE IT!!!!!! Perfect 3 o'clock ejection, and very accurate. I highly recommend DelTon. I couldn't be happier with it.
Can you guys review a 50 state legal AR? I live in the communist country of New York, where they think a pistol grip makes it more lethal....that logic...
They had that new pump action Troy about a month or so ago not sure if they have run the new Ares Defense lower or not. I live in SC and those both still are pretty interesting to me especially the .308 Troy. I love my pump rifles well I have 4 .22lr no other caliber right now but they are so fun sure that carbine would be great too and should be really accurate and would be great with a silencer.
POF has the Patriot I think they are calling them that are basically a bolt action AR too that is 50 state legal. Tons of mfg offer NY compliant ARs though. I have been to a few gun shows up there in NY past few years when up visiting in Oct and there is always a lot of ARs, and parts there really pretty impressed with that show at the Seneca Casino in Salamanca, NY. I haven't bought really anything but ammo and some various AR parts like I know I got a set of Daniel Defense sights there but it a great show and its right next to the casino buffet lol. I live in SC anyway so any deals really aren't a deal after I would have to pay taxes, shipping, then the FFL fee to pick up at home in SC. Well I guess I can still buy a rifle or shotgun just no handguns or AR, AK type rifles. There is a dealer from Rochester that is always there DD's Ranch they have tons of AR parts, complete rifles whatever where I know I got those Daniel Defense sights. I wanted to buy a Seekins Precision billet lower from them but they go for the exact same price online and I wouldn't have to pay the NY taxes if I order them there so.
+Ricky McClain Not many people but people in places like New York or California don't have the choice. I heard of a guy who had to design a straight pull M1 Garand so he could own it in Britain.
+Evan Bell "Forging is manufacturing process where metal is pressed, pounded or squeezed under great pressure into high strength parts known as forgings. The process is normally (but not always) performed hot by preheating the metal to a desired temperature before it is worked." "Casting involves pouring liquid metal into a mold, which contains a hollow cavity of the desired shape, and then allowing it to cool and solidify."
Got a 10.5 PSA, lantac dragon comp, got their BMD on the way, got a Devil Dog Concepts mid mount side charger, JP Rifles Silent captured spring, and CMC 2.5# flat single stage. Love it.
Billet is more expensive due to the machining process is more detailed and takes longer. And that's the only reason. A Forged any metal/alloy will always be stronger. Chad, what little you described in what forging is. You actually described the Investment Cast Process. There's a lot more that goes into Forging a metal. Forged metal/alloy is stronger, due to the metal tensile's are all in the same direction and densely packed...providing it with it's inherent strength. With Billet Milled anything. The metal tensile's are going in all different directions. Think of a grain of wood, when thinking of metal tensile's. A forged metal is hammers are used and compression used to ensure the tensile's are in the same direction. You guys should really comment on something, unless you truly know how it's done. Unfortunately, people will believe you over people who do know what they're talking about. And yes, I do know quite a bit about this and have my BS in Chemistry, as well as being a M.D. The only difference between say 4140 and 4150 steel is only 10k psi. All 41xx steel is Chrome Moly, per SAE standards. 4150 steel is rated to 110k psi and 4140 rated to 100k psi. All because 0.50% more carbon is added to the 4150 steel. Whereas, 5.56mm is pressured to 55k psi and .223 and other ammo brands are less than NATO spec pressured ammo. The military and private industry, proof test barrel at 70k psi. Hence, a 4140 barrel is plenty strong enough for even sustain war fighting. The barrel is just under being twice as strong of the load (ammo) pressure will put out. And the stronger barrel is slightly more than double in strength. Actually most barrels in all calibers like 30-06, 308 338 lapua the barrels are 4140. The last two digits of 41xx steel denotes the amount of carbon added to the barrel. So if people think 4140 is lesser and crappier than 4150 steel. Well, then you might want to research metals.
wawheeler21 I have to admit it surprised me too. When the began describing things. I wonder if they know the proper gas port hole on a carbine or mid length barrel. It's actually .0635" diameter. A lot of manufactures will up the size to .0685 or somewhere in between to ensure their AR can handle all brands of under powered ammo. And to ensure the rifle can handle steel casings too. Therefore, the port is over-sized and the gun is over gassed for the reason I mention above. And there's nothing wrong with that. You also, have dwell time of the bolt and carrier staying in place. To ensure the casing has time to contract to its original form. For proper extraction from the chamber.
I'm glad someone else caught that he didn't describe forging correctly. What he described is die-casting. Investment casting is where the molten metal displaces wax -- AKA lost-wax casting.
Great video! I've built/helped build ARs since the mid-80s, Standard to DMR to CQB; this is the single best video I've ever seen on choices and reasons to make them. Yes, I'm just finding this video in 2020. Please keep it up!!!
Just a few additional comments. Another long stroke piston rifle not mentioned here is PWS's rifle, which is pretty nice from my personal experience. Also, some people might want the longer rail system not just to cover their gas block, but to increase their sight radius for better accuracy.
WOW!!! GREAT!!!! Really straight forward and informative for new and less experienced AR-15 owners and potential buyers. It gives a base knowledge to people when they go to buy their first AR or for people who want to upgrade but are overwhelmed by all the styles, terms and options. Thanks Guys!!!!!
What I'd give to "download" the brainpower from both Eric & Chad, but this video will do. This is gold! This will save everyone from the headaches of trial & error. Thanks so much guys. I will refer to this video forever, when I need the info!
Just to clarify a point. A forging is hammered in a set of dies to a specific shape. Subsequent machining is usually necessary. Forging is done to establish the flow of the metals grain structure to enhance strength. Pouring molten metal into a mold is called casting, and is not usually as strong as a forged part. Machining from a solid chunk of metal is called machining from billet.
You two are some of the most informative people on line, you guys seam to be good friends and are very charismatic. Thanks for all the great knowledge.
One of the best informative AR videos I've seen so far. I would definitely recommend this video to any looking to get into purchasing or building. Keep up the good work fellas.
I really really really truly love u guys and alllll the damn work you guys put in! I can Imagine putting these vids together aren’t easy and we appreciate all the knowledge and info you guys give to those of us who study and love firearms. ERIC!, 💪💪
Had an issue with a Timney trigger not hitting hard enough on 7.62 by 39, switched to this CMMG mil spec, Best stock trigger out of the box I ever had.
You folks are lucky in the US. I tried to order an ATI free floating fore end for my Armalite and, "Nope. We can't send that to Canada!" Hopping up an AR here up north doesn't mean getting the parts you want, but having to settle for what's in stock...which is basically very little.
Eric I was going to call you out for making up a ridicules word like (LUBICITY), But it is a real word! Lubricity is the measure of the reduction in friction and or wear by a lubricant. The study of lubrication and wear mechanisms is called tribology.The lubricity of a substance is not a material property, and cannot be measured directly. Tests are performed to quantify a lubricant's performance for a specific system. This is often done by determining how much wear is caused to a surface by a given wear-inducing object in a given amount of time. Other factors such as surface size, temperature, and pressure are also specified. For two fluids with the same viscosity, the one that results in a smaller wear scar is considered to have higher lubricity. For this reason lubricity is also termed a substance's anti-wear property And now you know and knowing is half the battle! Good vids Thanks Guys!
I have a DPMS A2 classic, I've always preferred the standard, no bells and whistles. Nice iron sights, that don't run out of batteries. 20'' barrel, which the 5.56 was designed to be fired from.
You guys make great videos, but I just want to clarify the miss information in this video. Forged is NOT molten metal poured into a mold. It is heated metal forced into a mold, which creates a VERY strong part. Molten metal poured into a mold is casting. His description of billet in the video is accurate. Forged parts are stronger than billet and billet is stronger than cast.
+betatalk357 You have your information confused. When made from the same grade aluminum, forging is stronger than billet. There are some higher grades of aluminum that can't be forged, but can still be machined. So, billet has the possibility to be stronger than forged in that situation. Your average billet parts most likely wont be made out of high grade, non forgeable aluminum though. So, forged parts in general are stronger than billet.
You guys should do a shotgun customization video just like this! I have always wanted to see a serbu shorty with a silencer co shotgun suppressor and an ATI top folding stock all together
Minor correction, brake is for reduced recoil, compensator is for reduced muzzle rise, flash hider function is self explanatory. I run a gamma vg6. It's a combined compensator and two chamber brake. Makes for a nice flat shooter. Horrible blast for People near by though.
You guys are about the only ones who may be able to help me. I recived DPMS Orical for a gift yesterday. I’m new to AR game. Seems like it will be so fun. My problem is I cannot find the manual any online. Any help is appreciated. God Bless
@12:53 - much respect for your channel as you don’t beat people over the head with your point of view , BUT I bet you have a chrome lined barrel AR -15( s) ! I had a del ton with a 4140 cm barrel that was not chrome lined and it consistently shot 1 3/8” 5 shot patterns with white box 55 gr ammo VS my Colt 6920 shooting 1.5-1.75” with same ammo; that was back in 2003. Guess which one is still going strong? Yeah that chrome lined Colt with its CMV barrel! Even here in “ guns is bad” California , the Del Ton with out barrel treatment showed signs of rust despite trying to keep it oiled and its lans and grooves wore down after 4,100 rounds. Barrels are cheap ( $140-400 from avg manufacturers) but with the better barrel steel- mil spec CMV/ mil 4150, and treated with nitride or melonite or chrome lined , I have no problem sacrificing .5 to 1moa for longevity and durability
I have three ARs with Anderson lowers ($40 plus tax) and they are matched with Aero Precision uppers and they all are a perfect fit. JP Enterprises and SRC are my preferred choices for bolt and bolt carriers, but I am also using Aero Precision and Wilson Combat. I am a huge Giessele Trigger fan. Very informative video. You pretty much confirmed that I have made really good choices in all my builds. With the exception of my Sig MCX and MPX all of my ARs are personal builds. Thank you for putting this together.
I am new to the AR platform. but having shoot mine for the first time today. I enjoyed it. The 223 rounds ran fine but i noticed that the 556 was hanging up a little bit when they were trying to load. My Gun smith said it probably wasnt cleaned probably. He is good at what he does so I will take it to him. But I really like how it shoots. Less recoil obviously, but fun to shoot. I love my Mossberg as one of my home defense gun.
correction, muzzle brakes reduce recoil that goes rearward, compensators reduce muzzle climb, there are a lot of devices that do some combination of both, whether they're balanced to do both equally, or more one than the other, or some combination of those plus flash suppression (obviously a flash hider is the pure form of solely flash suppression without the other 2 qualities) and the a2 device is a mix of mostly flash suppressor and a little bit of a compensator
Here's my list in order of what to upgrade on your AR if you didn't build it. 1)Trigger 2)BCG 3)Buffer Assembly 4)Barrel 5)Handguard Not going to list sights, MBUS rear and A2 front sight are sufficient. If you got a flat-top with no A2 front sight then go with the full MBUS set or try out other brands at a gun store.
Kyle M I just ordered my first AR-15, a Springfield Saint and according to reviews the trigger is really good. My first upgrade would be a Trijicon MRO scope then a free float handguard.
Going over your older video from the beginning to the present. Law changes that hurt the sporting gun trade as of today to a unsure future. I know from being a member of Milatery to gun club to being gun less in the draconian Untied Kingdom.(does not feel United since the lie of the towers murder make) I hope America stays the home of the brave and the home of the free. Keep the quality videos coming.
I was a product of the US Army in the 1960's and I never ever saw the fascination with the AR-15. The early Colt M-16's were nothing but junk and with me, it really hit home. I own a AK platform and the closet to an AR I will get, is the Ruger Mini 14. As for all the other folks out there, what floats your boat..........
I love you guys your video are awesome but you guys work great together Eric is like the gun nut who loves the quirky stuff and Chad is the spec teck guy who love all the details
Forging does not involve liquid metal, that’s casting. Forging and billet aluminum are extremely similar in structure, however forged aluminum is actually considered more uniform in grain because of the extreme heat used, while billet or CNC machined aluminum is a little less uniform because of the way it’s cut/shaved. I’m not a gunsmith, however I am a performance engine technician. Forged/billet pistons are generally regarded as equal in strength, billet tends to be a bit more expensive because billet parts are custom CNC machined which require time and not to mention a large chunk of material to modify. Forging has a bigger initial capital investment due to the tooling, but each part is easier/quicker to make. Forging is a more streamlined process that is used in large scale manufacturing because of the tooling involved. Forging involves heating a piece of metal, roughly similar in shape and size to the final product, and then essentially stamping the metal or bending/crushing it to shape. The forged part is then typically drilled and further machined to specification. Both forging and billet aluminum are fairly uniform in molecular layout but forged parts are considered more consistent in structure throughout the material. Price will typically be cheaper on forged parts because they are often made in higher volume, while CNC billet parts aren’t as common because this process is usually used in low volume or custom applications.
my favorite ar15 upgrade is an FAL hahaha. in all seriousness though, for me, ergonomics are important. if shooting a weapon isn't comfortable, the rest doesn't matter to me. stocks and grips are always my first purchase.
For more two cents, I'd say you guys never need to apologize for making a longer video. I always learn so much from what you both have to say. In any case, once again, thanks so much for this! I'm currently looking to buy/build my very first AR, and I feel I can take your advice to the bank. You guys rock!
Plus one on that great video as always
@@logansmith2560 + 2 ... I agree
Take as long as you need to tell us what you have learned over the years. Thanks!
I personally love the longer videos. I'll always take more information and knowledge from those more in the know, and I'll take as much as they're willing to give.
Every second or your presentation had valuable information. No wasted rambling and ranting like Nutnfancy - although Most of his are very good evaluations by actually running the product and some hard use. So very educational but sometimes a bit long because of unnecessary babbling
I could only ever dream of standing in the sunshine discussing my AR 15s in the land of the free.. Here in shitty England i get frowned upon owning my GSG522 ,22lr.. God bless America
Sorry man, go brexit.
Come on over!
as long as your a good shot you can still put something down with 1 round in the right spot , i22lr is no joke.
Bro honestly I didn’t think y’all could even have that
Murica❤
Love chad's shirt
I always say, When unarmed politicians attempt to remove anything from the ARMED citizens a change of command is imminent.
"When the government fears the people, there is Liberty...." Finally someone that understands the principles that this country was founded upon. We are the sovereigns not the criminal psychopaths in the legislature that we euphemistically call government.
Man ....I love these guys!! I watch a bit of Gun Gripes every day while drinking my coffee and doing my push ups!!!.....These guys know their shit!!! Awesome job 👏
Just found this channel and I like it already.
36:35 "When you are shooting it with one hand - ha ha" love it!
Pre jerry curl chad. and the golden days when boxes of 5.56 were everywhere
That hoodie sure has more meaning today than it did in 2015
Chad's comments about forging at 20:48 are incorrect.
Pouring metal into a mold is a casting, not a forging. Using a sand mold (think engine parts like heads, blocks, water pumps, etc.) is sand-casting, which requires machining on certain surfaces and leaves a rough surface. Using a smooth mold is die-casting (think of metal model cars). Using a lost-wax process where the molten metal displaces a wax model is investment casting (used in more-precise engine parts).
Forging involves hammering processes to basically "flow" the metal grain into realignment and a different shape. Think of the creation of an edged weapon, like a knife or a sword. The basic shape is created with the forging process, then certain surfaces are machined (i.e. the edge of a knife) or the whole part is then machined more precisely.
@ If he knows this then what exactly is he talking about?
By the way I want to thank you for your for your video, i learn a lot in a short time, cant wait to get started, I am a Viet Nam disable veteran, thank again
Thanks for thinking of us! We are here for any questions!
3 years no questions. I have one, is santa real???
Will yall ever or have you ever done a 14.5 with a pinned and welded A2 style like you have with your flash hider or 3 port comp. Just aesthetics but would be nice. Love using your barrels.
every day I am more amazed at how far the ar has come from Eugene stoner , up through military implementation, and then the civy market. flipping astonishing how this gun is around 50 years old and still improving , unreal
Best 5 gun video since the loss of Barry (RIP Barry) You guys did great touched on every topic without going into too much detail. I am towards the end of my dream AR15 build. I went with Palmetto State Armory' upper and lower receivers as well as their NiB BCG. Their 16" stainless, mid length, mid contour barrel with a VG6 Epsilon brake. A Geissele SSA-E trigger. Noveske/Magpul ambi 60 degree short through safety . All Magpul furniture MOE+ grip, ACS stock, enhanced aluminum trigger guard, B.A.D. Lever, and the MBUS PRO offset sights. For glass I mounted the Nikon M-223 BDC 600 3-12x42SF on the M-223 mount. Along with Inforce WMLx 500 lumen and a RePlay PrimeX 1080 action camera. All I have left to get is the Magpul ASAP QD, MS4 sling, m-lok afg and to pick between the Midwest Industries 15" lightweight m-lok series free float rail or wait for the Geissele 15" MK4 m-lok. The waiting weight and cost of the MK4 is pushing me towards Midwest Industries rail. What do ya think... should I wait?
7 years later, how's the rifle? Any breakages?
Gentlemen, the extent of your firearm knowledge is MIND BLOWING! If I knew that much, I would be afraid my head would explode!!!
Keep up the gr8 work!
Great video guys. I just bought my first AR. Sounds like I got a great deal, on a quality rifle. It's a DelTon, with a chrome moly 16" 1:7 twist barrel. Came upgraded with a "slim" 15" Mlok free floated hand guard, and a full length pica tinny top rail. Mid-length, low profile gas system. Contoured trigger guard. Aluminum upper, and lower. Dust cover, and forward assist. Everything else mil-spec. $475. I added a 2 MOA red dot, with co-witness BUIS, and a BAD lever. This thing runs like a dream, and I LOVE IT!!!!!! Perfect 3 o'clock ejection, and very accurate. I highly recommend DelTon. I couldn't be happier with it.
Can you guys review a 50 state legal AR? I live in the communist country of New York, where they think a pistol grip makes it more lethal....that logic...
They had that new pump action Troy about a month or so ago not sure if they have run the new Ares Defense lower or not. I live in SC and those both still are pretty interesting to me especially the .308 Troy. I love my pump rifles well I have 4 .22lr no other caliber right now but they are so fun sure that carbine would be great too and should be really accurate and would be great with a silencer.
Ricky McClain it's better than nothing
POF has the Patriot I think they are calling them that are basically a bolt action AR too that is 50 state legal. Tons of mfg offer NY compliant ARs though. I have been to a few gun shows up there in NY past few years when up visiting in Oct and there is always a lot of ARs, and parts there really pretty impressed with that show at the Seneca Casino in Salamanca, NY. I haven't bought really anything but ammo and some various AR parts like I know I got a set of Daniel Defense sights there but it a great show and its right next to the casino buffet lol. I live in SC anyway so any deals really aren't a deal after I would have to pay taxes, shipping, then the FFL fee to pick up at home in SC. Well I guess I can still buy a rifle or shotgun just no handguns or AR, AK type rifles. There is a dealer from Rochester that is always there DD's Ranch they have tons of AR parts, complete rifles whatever where I know I got those Daniel Defense sights. I wanted to buy a Seekins Precision billet lower from them but they go for the exact same price online and I wouldn't have to pay the NY taxes if I order them there so.
+Ricky McClain faster then a bolt action ar.
+Ricky McClain Not many people but people in places like New York or California don't have the choice. I heard of a guy who had to design a straight pull M1 Garand so he could own it in Britain.
going back and watching these old videos are the best
I like the format of these old videos. Tag team data dump... I love it.
20:50. No. Casting and forging are not the same thing.
+Evan Bell "Forging is manufacturing process where metal is pressed, pounded or squeezed under great pressure into high strength parts known as forgings. The process is normally (but not always) performed hot by preheating the metal to a desired temperature before it is worked."
"Casting involves pouring liquid metal into a mold, which contains a hollow cavity of the desired shape, and then allowing it to cool and solidify."
Yes, I know exactly what forging and casting is and I know they're not the same thing, which is exactly why I made this comment.
Evan Bell I'm aware of that, but maybe some of the other viewers don't know the difference.
+Nick Joslin Thanks. Your comment helped me understand it better.
Evan Bell I was wondering if anyone else picked up on that. Pretty big difference.
Got a 10.5 PSA, lantac dragon comp, got their BMD on the way, got a Devil Dog Concepts mid mount side charger, JP Rifles Silent captured spring, and CMC 2.5# flat single stage. Love it.
Always a pleasure to sit down and watch you guys put together classic material keep up the excellent work
Did you forget about, twist rates boys?
Nice, lets get an AK upgrades video now!
These 2 dudes are legit.
5:47 that is a really nice looking pin and weld hell yeah.
It only seems fitting that for an AR-15 video there be 556 comments. Great video as always!
Billet is more expensive due to the machining process is more detailed and takes longer. And that's the only reason. A Forged any metal/alloy will always be stronger.
Chad, what little you described in what forging is. You actually described the Investment Cast Process. There's a lot more that goes into Forging a metal. Forged metal/alloy is stronger, due to the metal tensile's are all in the same direction and densely packed...providing it with it's inherent strength. With Billet Milled anything. The metal tensile's are going in all different directions. Think of a grain of wood, when thinking of metal tensile's. A forged metal is hammers are used and compression used to ensure the tensile's are in the same direction. You guys should really comment on something, unless you truly know how it's done. Unfortunately, people will believe you over people who do know what they're talking about. And yes, I do know quite a bit about this and have my BS in Chemistry, as well as being a M.D.
The only difference between say 4140 and 4150 steel is only 10k psi. All 41xx steel is Chrome Moly, per SAE standards. 4150 steel is rated to 110k psi and 4140 rated to 100k psi. All because 0.50% more carbon is added to the 4150 steel. Whereas, 5.56mm is pressured to 55k psi and .223 and other ammo brands are less than NATO spec pressured ammo. The military and private industry, proof test barrel at 70k psi. Hence, a 4140 barrel is plenty strong enough for even sustain war fighting. The barrel is just under being twice as strong of the load (ammo) pressure will put out. And the stronger barrel is slightly more than double in strength. Actually most barrels in all calibers like 30-06, 308 338 lapua the barrels are 4140. The last two digits of 41xx steel denotes the amount of carbon added to the barrel. So if people think 4140 is lesser and crappier than 4150 steel. Well, then you might want to research metals.
Yeah Chad described a cast lower not a forged lower. Surprises me that they don't know the difference between cast and forged.
wawheeler21 I have to admit it surprised me too. When the began describing things. I wonder if they know the proper gas port hole on a carbine or mid length barrel. It's actually .0635" diameter. A lot of manufactures will up the size to .0685 or somewhere in between to ensure their AR can handle all brands of under powered ammo. And to ensure the rifle can handle steel casings too. Therefore, the port is over-sized and the gun is over gassed for the reason I mention above. And there's nothing wrong with that. You also, have dwell time of the bolt and carrier staying in place. To ensure the casing has time to contract to its original form. For proper extraction from the chamber.
I'm glad someone else caught that he didn't describe forging correctly. What he described is die-casting. Investment casting is where the molten metal displaces wax -- AKA lost-wax casting.
me or you have never seen a full barrel failure ,if so it was defective from the start
Good explanation, thank you.
Im brand new to this whole world and I truly appreciate all the stuff you guys covered keep it up
I got a new sport 2, put a Midwest 15" mlok that only weighs 10oz. love it! the stock trigger feels nicer than my brothers after market trigger.
I'd amend the "adult Lego of the gun world" comment. The adult Lego of the FREE world.
Not anymore 😳
Great video! I've built/helped build ARs since the mid-80s, Standard to DMR to CQB; this is the single best video I've ever seen on choices and reasons to make them.
Yes, I'm just finding this video in 2020.
Please keep it up!!!
This is you do a class and give out information. These two cats know how to do it together on a subject matter. Keep up the the excellent work 👏
Just a few additional comments. Another long stroke piston rifle not mentioned here is PWS's rifle, which is pretty nice from my personal experience. Also, some people might want the longer rail system not just to cover their gas block, but to increase their sight radius for better accuracy.
WOW!!! GREAT!!!! Really straight forward and informative for new and less experienced AR-15 owners and potential buyers. It gives a base knowledge to people when they go to buy their first AR or for people who want to upgrade but are overwhelmed by all the styles, terms and options. Thanks Guys!!!!!
“The adult LEGO”, perfect analogy lol. Good video guys👍
@MadeIn Okinawa, Right!?!?!
I love Chad's sweatshirt.
so true
They are from 1776united.com
It's supposedly a quote from Thomas Jefferson but theres no evidence that I've seen where he actually said that anywhere
The Blind Leader someone is sore.
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What I'd give to "download" the brainpower from both Eric & Chad, but this video will do. This is gold! This will save everyone from the headaches of trial & error. Thanks so much guys. I will refer to this video forever, when I need the info!
Great video my dad wants to build an ar and i pointed him here to help him figure out what he wants. I also learned some things.
Excellent video Eric and Chad! God Bless
I recently bought a Savage AR-10 and it’s a fantastic rifle. Savage just got into the AR market but it’s a well known company.
"Runs like a scalded dog" made me role on the ground with laughter. Never heard of that before. Keep up the good work.
It’s southern term!
Just to clarify a point. A forging is hammered in a set of dies to a specific shape. Subsequent machining is usually necessary. Forging is done to establish the flow of the metals grain structure to enhance strength. Pouring molten metal into a mold is called casting, and is not usually as strong as a forged part. Machining from a solid chunk of metal is called machining from billet.
You two are some of the most informative people on line, you guys seam to be good friends and are very charismatic. Thanks for all the great knowledge.
One of the best informative AR videos I've seen so far. I would definitely recommend this video to any looking to get into purchasing or building. Keep up the good work fellas.
I'm hoping Eric does a review on different shoulder things that go up.
Using an arm brace for a stock on a pistol before arm braces were a thing. Nicely done.
Yall left no stone unturned with this video! Excellent work fellas! 👍
As always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! And I support this site. ~M~
Omg.. newbie paradise... just info.. no car salesmen.... well done
I really really really truly love u guys and alllll the damn work you guys put in! I can Imagine putting these vids together aren’t easy and we appreciate all the knowledge and info you guys give to those of us who study and love firearms. ERIC!, 💪💪
Love the sweatshirt. Think I will engrave that on my AR when I build it.
Is there a video of Chad's SBR?
Had an issue with a Timney trigger not hitting hard enough on 7.62 by 39, switched to this CMMG mil spec, Best stock trigger out of the box I ever had.
excellent video I just became a AR owner for the first time thanks guys
My personal favorite is an H&K MR556A1, my buddy owns one and it is phenomenal.
You folks are lucky in the US. I tried to order an ATI free floating fore end for my Armalite and, "Nope. We can't send that to Canada!" Hopping up an AR here up north doesn't mean getting the parts you want, but having to settle for what's in stock...which is basically very little.
“Acooterments” my new favorite word!
accoutrements... it's a French word, but the English language adopted it.
Cooter brown. As in: He's drunker than cooter brown.
Eric I was going to call you out for making up a ridicules word like (LUBICITY), But it is a real word!
Lubricity is the measure of the reduction in friction and or wear by a lubricant. The study of lubrication and wear mechanisms is called tribology.The lubricity of a substance is not a material property, and cannot be measured directly. Tests are performed to quantify a lubricant's performance for a specific system. This is often done by determining how much wear is caused to a surface by a given wear-inducing object in a given amount of time. Other factors such as surface size, temperature, and pressure are also specified. For two fluids with the same viscosity, the one that results in a smaller wear scar is considered to have higher lubricity. For this reason lubricity is also termed a substance's anti-wear property
And now you know and knowing is half the battle!
Good vids Thanks Guys!
Bwahahahaha! “Acooter ments”. That made me smile... 🤗
Great videos fellas keep em coming. I miss the older gentleman, rest in peace until valhalla.
You need to do a video on comparing different calibers. This is great info and im glad i went with building rather than buying.
I have a DPMS A2 classic, I've always preferred the standard, no bells and whistles. Nice iron sights, that don't run out of batteries. 20'' barrel, which the 5.56 was designed to be fired from.
Oh! So that's what the difference is between Billet and forged, thanks guys!
You guys make great videos, but I just want to clarify the miss information in this video.
Forged is NOT molten metal poured into a mold. It is heated metal forced into a mold, which creates a VERY strong part.
Molten metal poured into a mold is casting.
His description of billet in the video is accurate.
Forged parts are stronger than billet and billet is stronger than cast.
+betatalk357 You have your information confused.
When made from the same grade aluminum, forging is stronger than billet.
There are some higher grades of aluminum that can't be forged, but can still be machined. So, billet has the possibility to be stronger than forged in that situation.
Your average billet parts most likely wont be made out of high grade, non forgeable aluminum though. So, forged parts in general are stronger than billet.
You guys should do a shotgun customization video just like this!
I have always wanted to see a serbu shorty with a silencer co shotgun suppressor and an ATI top folding stock all together
nice hoodie Chad
Minor correction, brake is for reduced recoil, compensator is for reduced muzzle rise, flash hider function is self explanatory. I run a gamma vg6. It's a combined compensator and two chamber brake. Makes for a nice flat shooter. Horrible blast for People near by though.
love the hard work yall put into these videos! thank you for helping me find and continue to build my ar :D
You guys are about the only ones who may be able to help me. I recived DPMS Orical for a gift yesterday. I’m new to AR game. Seems like it will be so fun. My problem is I cannot find the manual any online. Any help is appreciated. God Bless
@12:53 - much respect for your channel as you don’t beat people over the head with your point of view , BUT I bet you have a chrome lined barrel AR -15( s) ! I had a del ton with a 4140 cm barrel that was not chrome lined and it consistently shot 1 3/8” 5 shot patterns with white box 55 gr ammo VS my Colt 6920 shooting 1.5-1.75” with same ammo; that was back in 2003.
Guess which one is still going strong? Yeah that chrome lined Colt with its CMV barrel! Even here in “ guns is bad” California , the Del Ton with out barrel treatment showed signs of rust despite trying to keep it oiled and its lans and grooves wore down after 4,100 rounds.
Barrels are cheap ( $140-400 from avg manufacturers) but with the better barrel steel- mil spec CMV/ mil 4150, and treated with nitride or melonite or chrome lined , I have no problem sacrificing .5 to 1moa for longevity and durability
I can't wait to start building my first AR.
My first rifle was an AR-15. I'll always adore the platform. That being said, I really want an AK as my next rifle!
omg love that "fear" shirt, and the "2nd matters" hat, I got to find me those!
strongly considering a AR-15 variant as my first combat rifle, this is helpful
The "flat shoe" trigger is the Geissele SD-E. It's the same internally as the SSA-E but flat.
Just by watching this, my government fears me.Love it.
Thank you guys!!
I have three ARs with Anderson lowers ($40 plus tax) and they are matched with Aero Precision uppers and they all are a perfect fit. JP Enterprises and SRC are my preferred choices for bolt and bolt carriers, but I am also using Aero Precision and Wilson Combat. I am a huge Giessele Trigger fan. Very informative video. You pretty much confirmed that I have made really good choices in all my builds. With the exception of my Sig MCX and MPX all of my ARs are personal builds. Thank you for putting this together.
I am new to the AR platform. but having shoot mine for the first time today. I enjoyed it. The 223 rounds ran fine but i noticed that the 556 was hanging up a little bit when they were trying to load. My Gun smith said it probably wasnt cleaned probably. He is good at what he does so I will take it to him. But I really like how it shoots. Less recoil obviously, but fun to shoot. I love my Mossberg as one of my home defense gun.
I subscribed to your channel because I like your material. Good shit! Keep it coming.
correction, muzzle brakes reduce recoil that goes rearward, compensators reduce muzzle climb, there are a lot of devices that do some combination of both, whether they're balanced to do both equally, or more one than the other, or some combination of those plus flash suppression (obviously a flash hider is the pure form of solely flash suppression without the other 2 qualities) and the a2 device is a mix of mostly flash suppressor and a little bit of a compensator
awesome video.....this video really helped me in deciding what to purchase for my first AR-15. THANKS GUYS!!!!!
I just built an Anderson lower that has The Punisher with Trump hair laser etched Lol . it’s awesome!
Nice to see you wearing an Every 2nd Matters hat.
Awesome video guys. Tons of great information. Keep em coming
Here's my list in order of what to upgrade on your AR if you didn't build it.
1)Trigger
2)BCG
3)Buffer Assembly
4)Barrel
5)Handguard
Not going to list sights, MBUS rear and A2 front sight are sufficient. If you got a flat-top with no A2 front sight then go with the full MBUS set or try out other brands at a gun store.
Kyle M I just ordered my first AR-15, a Springfield Saint and according to reviews the trigger is really good. My first upgrade would be a Trijicon MRO scope then a free float handguard.
I like the Sig brace on that pistol!
Chad, what you described was a cast receiver. Forgings are pounded into a mold with a giant hammer.
Going over your older video from the beginning to the present. Law changes that hurt the sporting gun trade as of today to a unsure future. I know from being a member of Milatery to gun club to being gun less in the draconian Untied Kingdom.(does not feel United since the lie of the towers murder make) I hope America stays the home of the brave and the home of the free. Keep the quality videos coming.
I was a product of the US Army in the 1960's and I never ever saw the fascination with the AR-15. The early Colt M-16's were nothing but junk and with me, it really hit home. I own a AK platform and the closet to an AR I will get, is the Ruger Mini 14. As for all the other folks out there, what floats your boat..........
Your statement says a lot about your ignorance! Try SmallArmsSolutions and get an education.
RIFLE .
Great Video Thanks.
I love you guys your video are awesome but you guys work great together Eric is like the gun nut who loves the quirky stuff and Chad is the spec teck guy who love all the details
Awesome videos, thanks Iraq veterans guys.
Forging does not involve liquid metal, that’s casting. Forging and billet aluminum are extremely similar in structure, however forged aluminum is actually considered more uniform in grain because of the extreme heat used, while billet or CNC machined aluminum is a little less uniform because of the way it’s cut/shaved. I’m not a gunsmith, however I am a performance engine technician. Forged/billet pistons are generally regarded as equal in strength, billet tends to be a bit more expensive because billet parts are custom CNC machined which require time and not to mention a large chunk of material to modify. Forging has a bigger initial capital investment due to the tooling, but each part is easier/quicker to make. Forging is a more streamlined process that is used in large scale manufacturing because of the tooling involved. Forging involves heating a piece of metal, roughly similar in shape and size to the final product, and then essentially stamping the metal or bending/crushing it to shape. The forged part is then typically drilled and further machined to specification. Both forging and billet aluminum are fairly uniform in molecular layout but forged parts are considered more consistent in structure throughout the material. Price will typically be cheaper on forged parts because they are often made in higher volume, while CNC billet parts aren’t as common because this process is usually used in low volume or custom applications.
360p is RUclips's fault. Check back in an hour or two.
You meant "360p is RUclips's fault, dumb shit. Check back in an hour or two and get yourself a brain"
Johannes von Beulenpest Dang, with my slow ass DSL I'm lucky to get to watch in 240p without the video freezing and buffering.
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"south korea which has essentially the best internet and cost" Yus.
I believe the marks on the upper receiver designate the manufacturer, not milspec. Great vids guys.
Thanks for all the tips
You guys should do a video on chads 18" DMR build
my favorite ar15 upgrade is an FAL hahaha.
in all seriousness though, for me, ergonomics are important. if shooting a weapon isn't comfortable, the rest doesn't matter to me. stocks and grips are always my first purchase.
Wow Chad Looks Young in This Video 😮😮😮 Nice Rifles Guys Love Them All
Love yall puttnout...
This clip made me subscribe
Keep the liberty fellaz