Yamaha Tenere vs Honda Transalp - Sub $11K ADV Comparison - Cycle News

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  • Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
  • The Yamaha Tenere sets the standard in the sub-$11,000 adventure bike market, but Honda's new Transalp 750 wants a piece of the action with a lower price tag and a larger output. . Can the newcomer overtake the current category leader? We put them head-to-head to find out.
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    0:00 - Intro
    0:45 - Specs
    3:53 - Pros & Cons
    6:40 - Off-Road Capability
    9:31 - Electronics
    11:22 - Displays
    12:51 - Flaws
    14:21 - Winner?
    18:00 - Wrap Up
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Комментарии • 91

  • @stephenzimmerman5517
    @stephenzimmerman5517 Месяц назад +4

    I've been riding motorcycles since 1970. These bikes look like great adventure bikes that are obviously streetable trail bikes. I wish I could afford one.

    • @alozborne
      @alozborne Месяц назад +1

      Look for a used Honda CB500X, as they are affordable and a lot of fun for a beginner ADV rider.

  • @jhackett9482
    @jhackett9482 Месяц назад +8

    I dont think the Transalp is a competitor to the T7. Its a bike for touring, gravel etc. I live in Illinois... bought the transalp.

    • @GregLanz
      @GregLanz Месяц назад +1

      Agreed, I'm in Canada and bought the TA as well. I've looked pretty seriously at the T7 and I'm sure I'd be very happy with one but for one I could never find a T7 in stock and the TA fits what I do better.

  • @davidgiorlando4086
    @davidgiorlando4086 29 дней назад +6

    I've spent thousands of miles on both. The Transalp is a way better travel bike. You can spend days and miles on it comfortably. Noticeable difference in power. Also with ride by wire you now have cruise control options you dont get with T7. The T7 is better out of the box for off road but more top heavy and if you are an advanced rider it will still need suspension work unless you weigh 140 lbs. The T7 is no fun on a 500+ miles day especially if you hit any wind or rain. Pretty much zero protection from the elements. To me the T7 is great if you are only doing a couple hundred miles a day closer to home hitting off road trails.

  • @thinkinglonewolf
    @thinkinglonewolf Месяц назад +5

    Had a Tenere 700 in 2020 now on Africa Twin . The Transalp is a great bike , but not for the same customers ( the why i went with Africa Twin ) . If you ride rougher terrain go with Tenere , easier trails and road go with Transalp .

    • @peaceandfood7952
      @peaceandfood7952 Месяц назад +1

      I'm hesitating between tenere and Africa twin ....

    • @thinkinglonewolf
      @thinkinglonewolf 24 дня назад

      @@peaceandfood7952 If you intend more off-road go Tenere , if you favor open forest roads and asphalt go African Way

  • @sickunit2096
    @sickunit2096 29 дней назад +5

    As a frame of reference, Ive owned several big GSs, an F800GSA, KTM 950 Adv, Aprilia Taureg, Triumph Tiger 1050, and a rally style build Husky 701 enduro. That being said, I bought a Transalp and quickly found the shock to be inadequate. Bought a shock and have been absolutely in love with the ‘Alp ever since. Offroad mode is useless on any modern ADV bike. Put the Alp on “User” mode and turn all the bs rider aids off. I don’t miss any of my previous adv bikes. Only thing I’d change is the dull flat black livery. With such a great heritage, Honda could’ve come out with some fantastic, retro liveries. Last thing I think potential buyers should know, is what Honda designed the original Transalp for. “A mid-size sports bike that offers all-round enjoyment from city to highway, from mountain passes to dirt roads.”

    • @timbrandt7211
      @timbrandt7211 29 дней назад +1

      Nice bikes, not sure I’d pass on a well sorted 950 Adv, one of the best ever.

    • @martythompson6509
      @martythompson6509 28 дней назад +1

      Which shock did you fit?

    • @sickunit2096
      @sickunit2096 28 дней назад +1

      @@timbrandt7211 I can agree with you on a 950 and I did have mine sorted out, but I always had that fear in the back of my mind that the thing would break down on me somewhere remote.

    • @Jeredsmith
      @Jeredsmith 28 дней назад +2

      I agree on the black. I like black but at least give the USA an option for the white and gold ones they have over seas.

    • @sickunit2096
      @sickunit2096 28 дней назад +1

      @@Jeredsmith I spiced mine up with graphics from a non-US model from the early 90s.

  • @RevansNightmare
    @RevansNightmare Месяц назад +3

    After testing the T7 and Transalp XL750, I went with the Transalp. I am short and ordered the lower seat. I also ordered front and rear springs. I also do not like having things in my line of view so the horizontal display of the Transalp was a good thing for me. The accessory bar on the Tenere drives me crazy.

    • @BravoFox27
      @BravoFox27 Месяц назад

      Which springs did you go for?

  • @thodoris3790
    @thodoris3790 Месяц назад +5

    the only competitor for tenere,is the tuareg660.which beats tenere everywhere.except reliability.

  • @briancorreia2923
    @briancorreia2923 Месяц назад +3

    It looks like the new BMW f900 enduro has a button on the left that turns off traction control.

  • @toffeeavatar5011
    @toffeeavatar5011 Месяц назад +3

    Tuareq 660 vs T7 would the better comparison. Transalp 750 is different on touring and not fair to compare either 😂

  • @SquareHelmet
    @SquareHelmet Месяц назад +1

    Great review! I want to add Tenere to my XT250 this season. That should cover the entire range of all possible roads for me.

  • @Phlmotoadventure.
    @Phlmotoadventure. Месяц назад +1

    Really good review, my local trails are deep sand and the T7 with springs for my weight and it eats it up.
    I consider the transalp but when I sat on it at the dealer it felt like a sport touring bike, but the seat felt 10x better 😂

  • @erickmontero6222
    @erickmontero6222 Месяц назад +2

    Compare the T7 to the Tuareg 660. Aprilia seems to have it beat in all areas except potentially reliability and dealer network. Priced a little higher but there’s good deals out there that bring them to the same price.

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Месяц назад

      We will add that to the list!

  • @mediocremichael
    @mediocremichael Месяц назад

    Love it....great vid. More Dakar Rally Daily please. There is so much more to cover! Thanks in advance! :)

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Месяц назад

      Thanks Michael, more to come!

  • @kevb9578
    @kevb9578 16 дней назад +1

    Ended up buying the transalpine. Got knobs on it. Love it. T7 good ripper doh. Buddy bought t7. Either way Honda bruhs and Yama bruhs are cooler than euro Bruhs

  • @cliftonsr
    @cliftonsr Месяц назад +3

    Traction control can be turned off on the fly on the Transalp and you don’t have to pull over, and again just turning off by just the kill switch doesn’t change your settings on the Transalp. So get your facts right and stop talking and start riding.

  • @spartanx169x
    @spartanx169x Месяц назад +2

    I'm not into ADV bikes, but these two bikes have me interested in the idea.

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Месяц назад +1

      That's what its all about!

  • @sdavis4349
    @sdavis4349 21 день назад +1

    Over here in aus bike sales is showing a 3-4K price difference in these two models which may sway people towards a transalp

  • @gingernaut2550
    @gingernaut2550 Месяц назад +1

    One stat I wish motto journalists would appeal on is weight capacity of bikes. Noone does, it can be a tricky number to find, it's not on every online spec sheet. Im 280 lbs, down from 310, heading towards 250. When it comes to riding 2 up with the wife this number is really important. We're about 430 combined which rules out a lot of bikes immediately. But when for me, I know the t7 is optimized for a guy 170lbs. And every one days it's spongy in the suspension. Im looking at these 2 bikes and the v strom 800de next year, I know I'll be happy with any of them, but I really want to love the tenere. Knowing there's a 2-3 grand suspension upgrade into of the price tag is holding me back though. I'd like to do some moto camping so again, right cap is a key consideration.
    Love the videos though guys, keep it up!

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Месяц назад +1

      Claimed wet weights say the Tenere is 470 lbs, while the Honda is 459. Thanks for the view and congrats on the weight loss!

    • @gingernaut2550
      @gingernaut2550 Месяц назад

      @@cyclenews Thnks for the props
      What I meant to say was how much bikes can safely carry, like rider, gear etc! thanks for the reply though

    • @nickNLB
      @nickNLB Месяц назад

      I have a spring rated for 357 in the rear that was 150$ on my Tenere. Why don’t you just get a stiffer spring? You don’t need a new shock.

    • @nickNLB
      @nickNLB Месяц назад

      @gingernaut2550

  • @jayhopkins1337
    @jayhopkins1337 Месяц назад +1

    Still don't understand why people dont just adjust the rear brake pedal?? It works. T7 not sure why they come sloppy from factory

  • @john0270
    @john0270 Месяц назад

    ok so on that t7 rear brake, i have bled massive amounts of air out of some of them.

  • @cliffordjordan9577
    @cliffordjordan9577 Месяц назад +3

    I’m a Honda guy, but the Transalp can’t compete with the Tenere

  • @nscott26
    @nscott26 Месяц назад +2

    Im surprised the Aprilia Tuareg wasn't mentioned 🤔

    • @rench55
      @rench55 Месяц назад +1

      Not "sub $11k", But I'd pay the extra...

    • @nscott26
      @nscott26 Месяц назад +2

      @@rench55 I did pay the extra, the Tuareg is a phenomenal bike!

  • @ngprof
    @ngprof Месяц назад +1

    Interesting that you don't like a traction control at 2024 ....

  • @peaceandfood7952
    @peaceandfood7952 Месяц назад +2

    Anybody can come with anything the tenere is always more good looking only one else would be the africa twin

  • @thodoris3790
    @thodoris3790 Месяц назад

    i test rode tenere,and above 70 mph ,had terrible wind noise.is the transalp the same?i m 5.9.

    • @EfferusZangetsu
      @EfferusZangetsu Месяц назад

      Different seat and or different windshield height will solve the issue. Different combinations for different rider heights.

    • @Sventy11
      @Sventy11 Месяц назад +1

      You'll need a taller windscreen on the T7 to reduce wind noise. The TA noise isn't bad. Much better in stock form than the T7.

    • @jayhopkins1337
      @jayhopkins1337 Месяц назад

      Windscreen riser 20$

    • @HoratioBunce503
      @HoratioBunce503 Месяц назад +1

      I’m 6’0 and just finished the 600 mile run-in. The stock windscreen is really good, but I have to scrunch down a little. 1-2” too short of a screen for me. I figger it’s gonna be just fine if you’re 5’10” or under.
      If you ride your adventure bike like an ebduro, or tech single track, like these reviewers, by all means, the T7 is the bike.
      Me, I’m looking for a comfortable tourer, that’ll get me to places that I want to see off-tarmac.
      BTW, the TA handles the twisties like it wants to be flogged. High revving, smooth, and planted.
      Much more comfortable and fun than I had expected.
      Never ridden a T7, so I can’t compare road manners to the TA.

    • @Sventy11
      @Sventy11 Месяц назад

      @@jayhopkins1337 that won't be enough for the T7. It would only help, but the T7 needs a whole need windscreen to reduce noise.

  • @eagledrummer23
    @eagledrummer23 Месяц назад +3

    The transalp just doesn't make much sense. With the compromised suspension, it would really make more sense as a big brother to the cb500x with a 19" front. Instead, it's less sporty than a tiger and less capable off road than a t700. The Mini tenere might not be the best bike, but the purpose is clear and well done.

    • @spartanx169x
      @spartanx169x Месяц назад +1

      Compromised would imply that it is broken or weak at the very least. Which is not accurate. Its just different. I would argue that it is for riders that are less aggressive off road and want to enjoy the riding on pavement. Honda didn't build it on a whim. You can be assured they spend thousands of dollars doing research on what customers in the demographic were wanting and or complaining that the Tenere was not providing. Just because it does not appeal to you , does not mean there is no customer for it. Honda rarely fails. How many questioned the release of the Grom and look at its success. Its becoming a cultural icon.

    • @jhackett9482
      @jhackett9482 Месяц назад +1

      @@spartanx169xagree. I bought the Transalp living in Illinois there is asphalt, gravel and very little dirt. Its a different animal. Also closest triumph dealer is 4-5 hour trip from where I live so not available. Transalps gonna take me all over the country no matter what the roads are like. I see lots of youtubers riding the T7 on the road and thats a waste of a good dirt bike.

    • @eagledrummer23
      @eagledrummer23 Месяц назад

      @@spartanx169x except I doubt it excels on road with the 21" tire. This tire makes sense for a bike that is very good off road. It will work for people sure, but it's not going to be top of the class in anything, it seems. I predict that most transalp owners would be happier on a 19" tiger or ktm adventure.

  • @ktkace
    @ktkace Месяц назад +3

    The real monkey wrench is the Kove rally 800 race at 165KG wet...
    Yamaha is already sweating balls because they shat the T7 extreme edition lol.
    Honda isnt even trying

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Месяц назад +1

      That would make another great comparison test.

    • @brianpostlethwaite
      @brianpostlethwaite Месяц назад

      @@cyclenews I have a T7 and the Kove Rally 800 has me looking for an upgrade.

    • @robertmountfort6519
      @robertmountfort6519 28 дней назад

      Chinabikes suck

  • @markcomisky7106
    @markcomisky7106 Месяц назад +1

    Yamaha should do a recall on the rear brake itself a safety concern

  • @johna6968
    @johna6968 Месяц назад +1

    We back in COVID lockdown?

  • @alozborne
    @alozborne Месяц назад

    With an $800 USD price difference, a new owner of a Transalp can immediately replace the pogo stick rear shock with an aftermarket rear shock and close the suspension gap considerably vs the T7.
    The Transalp is the better touring bike, without question. So, I'll either get a stock V-Strom 800DE or a Transalp XL750 with an aftermarket rear shock as I need an ADV bike on which I can tour comfortably for hundreds of miles before hitting the dirt.

  • @gw2shibarashi674
    @gw2shibarashi674 Месяц назад +5

    yamaha created the category???
    BMW F800gs 2008 helloooooo????

    • @LeeTillbury
      @LeeTillbury Месяц назад

      That old shed?? Naaaa 😂😂😂

    • @gw2shibarashi674
      @gw2shibarashi674 Месяц назад

      @@LeeTillbury what does it have to do with old ?

    • @Carlisho
      @Carlisho Месяц назад

      @@LeeTillbury you just proved him right by calling it an old shed 😂

    • @gw2shibarashi674
      @gw2shibarashi674 Месяц назад

      @@Carlisho I see …. Classic Yamaha fun boys

  • @kostasrestas
    @kostasrestas Месяц назад +2

    Τ Ε Ν Ε R E !

  • @MatijaBuhMetaliero
    @MatijaBuhMetaliero Месяц назад +4

    T7 is young fresh design and goes like a dirtbike... Transalp is for 60+ dads

  • @kyleg8928
    @kyleg8928 Месяц назад

    2024 790 adventure is back at 10990?

    • @kyleg8928
      @kyleg8928 Месяц назад

      Thanks for the quality presentation.

  • @GIGABACHI
    @GIGABACHI Месяц назад +1

    At first blush you can tell which one it's the "dirt bike" and which one it's "Starbucks go getter".

    • @Rigatonispaghettioly
      @Rigatonispaghettioly Месяц назад

      nah

    • @Sventy11
      @Sventy11 Месяц назад

      Rider dependant too. I feel like my TA holds its own off road. The T7 feels good off road too.

  • @scottrtomlinson
    @scottrtomlinson 28 дней назад

    TEAM TENERE!

  • @johnshropshire3399
    @johnshropshire3399 Месяц назад

    👍👍

  • @DM-rh4eh
    @DM-rh4eh 28 дней назад

    T7 looks meaner

  • @Pompomgrenade
    @Pompomgrenade 28 дней назад

    😂 No thought Yamaha beat the Honda in this case

  • @edtaylor6431
    @edtaylor6431 Месяц назад +5

    Talk about a biased against the Honda! Not exactly fair! Honda is the bike I will be the buying!

  • @skipole09
    @skipole09 Месяц назад +3

    Unclear why anyone would choose a transalp over a t7. If you have any intention of riding off road, you’re better off on a t7

    • @cyclenews
      @cyclenews  Месяц назад

      Think on paper the Transalp was designed to be a competitor to the T7 both on and off-road.

    • @GregLanz
      @GregLanz Месяц назад +2

      And if you ride on-road you're better off with the Transalp, just depends on what you do. I'm about 80% on-road so I picked the Transalp YMMV

  • @BdubbsVt
    @BdubbsVt Месяц назад +1

    It's simple: if you ride more offroad, buy the t7. If you do more commuting and lite touring, buy the talp
    People want to bash the honda assuming they built an adv bike. It's not, at all. With that said, the ta is an amazing bike to ride. Smooth, well balanced, good fun.

    • @eagledrummer23
      @eagledrummer23 Месяц назад +1

      If it's not an ADV bike, WHY put a 21" tire on it? Makes no sense. There's tons of sport tourers that will handle better than this.

    • @john0270
      @john0270 Месяц назад

      and then there is the vstrom 800de, have one on order myself. the t7 is an overweight dirtbike in my opinion

    • @john0270
      @john0270 Месяц назад

      @@eagledrummer23 have you ever drove gravel roads with different bikes?

    • @eagledrummer23
      @eagledrummer23 29 дней назад +1

      @@john0270 yes... are you saying you need a 21" tire for gravel?

  • @andrewanderson1988
    @andrewanderson1988 10 дней назад

    I don't know what it is about the Honda stock shocks being so bad. When I was shopping for my dual sport I was seriously considering the CRF300, but the I bottomed out the stock shock just from sitting down on it in the showroom. The KLX300 was much better, so I went with that instead.

  • @thodoris3790
    @thodoris3790 24 дня назад +4

    transalp for me.tenere is too overrated bike.most buy it for the looks

  • @gordboyko769
    @gordboyko769 Месяц назад +1

    They both suck . Neither has cruise .. both have cheap mushy suspension. Both are too heavy .

    • @mbal4052
      @mbal4052 22 дня назад

      No it’s ur mum that sucks 😊

    • @ItsChicoYo
      @ItsChicoYo 17 дней назад

      Nice bait comment, donkey