A RV Tire Upgrade you've never seen before! The MASSIVE Continental HTL2 Eco Plus!
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I put a link to the tires in the description. They are a BEAST of a tire! Crazy the peace of mind they give me. These are US Manufactured tires as well: www.continental-truck.com/truck/company/business-unit/mountvernon
Also, Wheels are rated for 6,050lbs as well: www.etrailer.com/Boat-Trailer-Wheels/Lionshead/LI44FR.html?etam=a0001
@Dillon Bishop lol... Thanks.. it's a Piece of my mind maybe?
You said in the video that they are high mileage. How many miles do you expect to get and how do you know when they need changed?
So how have these tires treated you a year later? I’m about to buy tires and wouldn’t mind putting these on there.
DJ, Please let us know how these tires are holding up.
Every time you change tires on one of your vehicles, it has me going around questioning my tires on my rv and vehicles-do I change them, are they ok, etc...lol
Balanced tires reduce wear on your wheel bearings, brake components, suspension components, and prevent any possibility of resonance damage at the speed of critical frequency. Always balance your trailer tires.
The tire guys thought I was silly, but I balanced mine. It tows nicer, and things in the RV shift much less on travel days. I'm convinced that less vibration is better for the appliances and the tightness of all the many fasteners holding the thing together.
I've been running these tires on an Evergreen Tesla triple axle toyhauler for five years now and they are awesome! They have been worry free for about 28K miles so far. I keep them at 110 psi; the stiff sidewalls definitely help minimize the "scrubbing" worries of short radius turns on pavement. Even though they are a sturdy tire, I still use a TPMS for added peace of mind. I know they are more "spendy" than other tire choices, but I believe you will be happy with your choice!!
Thanks for that comment! I've only heard great things about these tires.
@@BigTruckBigRV It is of my opinion that the Saluin H rated tires on 17.5" rims are the best bang for the 75 mph rating, high load capacity, & incredibly stiff side wall $buck$, no? Can you say < 1/2 the price of those Conti's?
For jacking up my trailer, I fabricated a "cradle" that fits under the axle tube plus the u-bolts. That cradle sits on the jack pad. The cradle evenly distributes the load among the u-bolts and that part of the tube between the u-bolts.
Once elevated, a jackstand goes under the frame.
Man 62 years old and doing manual labor like a champ! Go Ruben, show the whiny kids how it’s done!
Thanks I bought these tires today because of this video ! Had to change my aluminum wheels out for the steel wheel that you show in the video had a heck of a time finding Lug nuts finally found them on line through summit racing , went to every local place I could find nobody stocked these 9/16 Hubb pilot lug nuts for a flat face steel wheel ,
I have had these tires on my fifth wheel for 4 years now. They are great.
I always balance all my trailer tires. From my 45’ 5th wheel to my 5x8 open trailer... great video!
I put these on my 38 foot 5th wheel 3 years ago and I love them!
How's the ride quality? Did it change much over previous setup, what were you running before?
@@UnholySeoul I had Goodyear China bombs. The ride is tremendous..no drag what so ever. These are the best trailer tires out there. You won’t be disappointed.
Yes, commercial tire like a semi trailer just shorter. The upsides are numerous a little more cost but way more safety. Only down side will be fixing a flat. You’ll need a place equipped for truck tire repair. Worth it though.
Nice upgrade…. I agree with balancing the tires👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
JB, I so appreciate your video's for several reasons. 1. You're likely one of the most technically knowledgeable people regarding RV's and pickup trucks used for towing RV's on the internet. Period. And 2. You put that knowledge right down on the table in terms where people who are looking for answers can find and understand it. The real shame is, after having a catastrophic blow out on my TT after only 20K miles on the "china bombs" that came from the factory on the RV, I went searching for "the best" tire I could get. American made was important to me as well. Reason being is not only did that blowout endanger my family but it did A LOT of damage to my RV. I couldn't find anybody (here in Virginia) that gave me confidence that they knew what they were talking about when advising me about tires they offered for my RV. In fact, one place, offered me car tires and assured me they would work. I had to research and find answers myself. Having 15" rims on the TT obviously limited my choices and ultimately I went with Good Year Endurance ST's which I hope were the best choice. Having seen this video I wonder if there is a better choice. You're doing a fine job my friend. When we disagree is is always a difference of opinion when you give your opinion and that is not often. Normally you keep opinions to yourself and give the facts. I appreciate that. Please, keep up the good work.
Thank you for putting on Continentals!
Those tires are massive. Looking forward to the long term update
I try and use those very tires on my 9 axle wind tower trailer. They are great and we haul insane weight even off road. No joke if you want the best these are it.
Every axel manufacturer on any rv I have seen STRONGLY advises against jacking up using the axel. You are supposed to place the jack on the frame near the hanger points.
Agreed. I was hoping he'd used the hanger points.
If only fifth wheels came equipped with a built in jack.... Oh wait.
Use the Leveling Jacks and crank her up.
@@HuntMountain06 yea, that’s what I was thinking. Use the camper jacks to take the trailer weight and then use a jack on the axel to just get it off the ground for swap out.
@@kwyer1963 That would certainly take most of the weight and be helpful.
Those Leveling Jacks can generally hold 20+ Thousand Pounds. And as long as you aren’t over extending them on their own. Or have some great sturdy blocking. You can Use the Leveling Jacks to Lift one side at a time or all 4 tires right off the ground.
The only reason the Leveling Jack Manufacturers say not to do it is to avoid any liability.
@@HuntMountain06 I picked up a screw in a trailer tire on my Solitude somewhere before Vegas in March and stopped in a Walmart parking lot in Vegas to have AAA come and swap it to the spare and that’s what I did. Got the tire almost off the ground and unloaded the springs and axel and then used his floor jack to just lift the tire off the ground to swap it out.
I've been hauling for a long time and I never ever thought to do that is a brilliant idea I've seen many of accidents and torn up RV trailers along with motorhomes having a good robust Tire on an RV is never a bad idea is it Overkill yes will it last way longer than the average Tire yes will you get home safe yes. Worth it to me.
Nice, I even get my boat and PWC trailers tires balanced as well. No reasons not to really, will make the tires wear better and not cup them over time. 👍👍
Now I’m impressed 💪👌
Thanks for the information, I have been looking at these tires for my Mobil Suite, 245/75/17.5.
Have some help picking them up though. They are beefy!
Also make sure your wheel is able to support them. If not, I put a link in the pinned comment at the top showing the wheels I use.
Always great info into fabulous content!!!!!!🪓🤠👍
Beautiful F350 or F450 and Beautiful trailer
@Dillon Bishop Hell yeahhhhh
DAM! I was happy when I got my Cooper Load Range H!
Best of luck with your new tires!
Very good video. Hopefully RV manufacturers of heavy fifth wheels with 8K axles will include this tire as an option.
Buy that man a beer JD.
I currently have Goodyear Endurance on our RV. If I did have to change a tire I think i would use
the leveler jacks. I know Lippert says not to, but If you read comments in the Montana Owners Forum many have done this to just change a tire.
They just don’t want any liability. Leveling Jacks for the win.
Great upgrade! I always recommend investing into the best trailer tires you can afford. No question, the continental commercial tire is the ultimate tire upgrade; however, having that much overkill comes at cost. For those of us that can't afford to upgrade wheels to 17.5" and still want the safety and advantage of high ply commercial 75 MPH rated trailer tires, there is another much lower cost option that many 5th wheel owners have experienced great success. I upgraded my Montana 5th wheel to the Sailun commercial trailer tire 235/85R/R16. New Montana's can be ordered from the factory with them. The Sailuns can be ordered from local or online retailers and also come in the standard 235/80R/16 size. Sailun tires are rated at approx. 4100 lbs, 14 ply and have a 75 MPH rating like the continental tires. Doing a search on many RV forums, the Sailun is one of the most highly rated and recommended trailer tires and only cost $150 to $190 each.
You mean these? ruclips.net/video/VP6T4VeTWPE/видео.html
This will definitely be the next set of tires on my 5th wheel!
Good and Detailed explanation. Thanks
You always take things to the next level! Awesome! However, watch out for those soft shoulders! With the relatively flat surface of the tire and the J rated sidewalls, it will pull your rig off the road! Cheers!
Should always balance high speed tires. Tires are one of the last mass produced items which are primarily hand made. The material, belts etc, often cause the tire to be heaver at certain points. This can cause premature wear and a poor ride. Should ask about rotating your tires too. I have spoken to a commercial tire engineer (30 + years in the business) who recommends that you actually rotate them regularly. The geometry of "dual" wheels on each side actually causes the fronts to wear differently from the rear tires.
Surprised that you wouldn't have also added a set of CentraMatics behind each of those tires to get the 100% best ride for that trailer
Great video
Just installed the new good year endurance tires on my trailer, have a higher speed rating then the continental. Phenomenal tire, reduces sway and tows no problem at 70mph lol.
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Not just a balance, they performed a road force balance! Nice upgrade
Nice tires my friend 😎 I need to upgrade my tires to.
Beefy commercial tires made for hauling bulldozers that are indestructible? Will the RV ride harder and beat up everything in the RV going down the road? My RV already falls apart going down the road with softer riding tires.
It will be slightly worse for sure. However with the enhances suspension upgrades as well as the taller side wall profile, it won't be that bad. I'll likely film it at some point. In regards to the ability to haul an excavator, you're talking 8 to 12 tires for those load applications. I have 4 and they are rated at 24k total, which is 6,500 over my GVWR.
Any chance we could get some more videos on flat/cargo and box/cargo trailers? This video is awesome but I'd love some more info on haul type trailers as I've done a good bit of vehicle recovery/ towing with a flatbed bumper pull lately.
Heck i see a lot of pick ups with 5th wheels go by me so fast it’s unreal. They think just because the speed limit is 70-75 out here they can do that. Had a TT pass me on May31st and then it started fish tailing so I slowed down and gave him room. Glad it didn’t flip over. Hopefully he learned his lesson.
You feel good now!
That is a fantastic upgrade. I'd even go so far as to say imperative. The only thing you MIGHT encounter is availability. Continental tires are EU and sometimes very hard to find. It's nice that this guy has plenty, but when you're hundreds of miles down the road you could be stuck for a couple of days. Make sure you got at least two spares. Take a couple of those tires you took off and put them on those steel wheels for spares.
Very informative. So on my 2022 Vanleigh Beacon, it comes stock with 215/75 R17.5 Westlake H rated tires, rated for 62 mph. I like to pull right at 65mph. Could I use my stock rims and go with a Continental 245/70 R17.5 tire?
I agree (not that I know anything but it sounds right lol) with getting the tires balanced
QQQ - what about using the Donut Wheel Balancers or are they too much overkill for trailer tires?
So JD, what are your thoughts on oil bath hub bearings? I think we would be better served than just pumping in more grease.
Very nice. I’ll guess we will see the reviews on them.
JD...could we get a towing comparison evaluation please? I am seriously interested in getting these tires! Thank you for all of your videos!
I can't imagine NOT balancing your tires. Just part of the process - new tire, balance it, mount it, and hope the next tire purchase is a long way down the road.
Hey JD, what is your opinion on how many years should a tire stay on the pull vehicle before changing them out? For example if I had 25,000 miles on my tires and were in good shape but we’re five years old is it time to start thinking about changing them out?
I see you have the Lippert 3.0. Have you ever had an external sensor error? I had it this weekend, went to hookup and error came up, turned panel off and everything was fine. Got to campground error kept coming up 3 times until I plugged into shore power then auto level was a success. Went to hook up Sunday and constant error, on shore power, spent 1/2 an hr getting hooked up to truck. Drive home 2 hrs and all is good. Hooked up today to take RV for inspection, all good. Got to inspection station, all good, any advice would b great?? 2020 Grand Design 311BHS with 6 point Lippert 3.0 Ground Control. TIA!! Love your channel!!
Near the end of the Video you see after the new tires are installed. The auto Jacks Or the leveling jacks are a few inches for the ground? Is that yhe height you keep them when you are driving on the highway? Or do you adjust them higher from the ground?
When I went to a ribbed tire like this. I found these tires sling water off differently. Thus in hard rain my slide outs leaked in the corners of my RV.
How are these holding up? Seriously considering a set after many recommendations. Did you notice any change in trailer tracking or bounce?
I went with the Hercules ST235/80R16 for our 2021 Keystone Carbon 338. I did not know about the Continentals (Made in the USA). I wonder how they will compare over the long haul.
I have a a 205/75r/15…..Size j for my 2150rb Grand Design Imagine camper. Never thought about upgrading tires. Makes me want to for sure. Still kinda not sure what the upgrade size would be; do most tire dealers carry these sizes for campers?
The tires are rated for 6,000 pounds, but what are your rims rated for?
They are rated for 6,050lbs :)
www.etrailer.com/Boat-Trailer-Wheels/Lionshead/LI44FR.html?etam=a0001
If your rv comes with 15" wheels, does changing the wheel size to a larger size put more torque on the suspension during a turn?
Always balance any tire. It is better for the tire and the item it is mounted on. What pressure are you running in those tires?
Great job you put the money where it will take care of you
JD - does the Lippert trailer TPMS system integrate into your truck dash TPMS system, if your truck has one? Do you know if it will integrate and display on our GMC 3500 system? Thanks.
I had a question did your F450 ever sway on the highway I have a 2021 f450 with Continental tires 19.5 and when I’m on the highway just truck it sways left by itself 70 or 60 MPH it’s very dangerous even when towing a fifth wheel or conventional towing it sways left
You should run nitrogen in the tires, it keeps the tire pressure more constant I notice even running in the desert it keeps the tire pressure down so they dont over heat ,we run them in all the walmart trucks and trailers
Are Company just upgraded to rear disc brakes on our trailers.
I put Goodyear Endurance tires on my dual axle camper , i asked if they were going to balance the tires ?? . Absolutely i was told , a standard procedure where i had the install performed ...sold my Rainier (China bomb) tires for $100.00 CAD .
I would definitely upgrade the front tires to the hds
I have a 2020 F350 with a 7.3 godzilla gas engine 10 speed , 7.73 rear end , SRW. pulling 7.500 lbs cougar 5th wheel. truck and trailer loaded around 10.000 lbs. live in a valley in Oregon. anywhere I go its hills or mountains on the way. Truck can keep pace with cars. 10 speed trans has trans brake. 15 mpg best, towing 9mph.Saved 9,000 dollars, no high maintenance costs, no aftertreatment,Love my ford and Agree with Josh.
I think I would have made the switch to the higher rated tire also. I tend to pull my Micro Lite 25BRDS at 63 MPH, which is 1 MPH over the rating of your Goodyears you replaced. However, when passing a slower vehicle, my speed temporarily increases to approximately 69-70 MPH. Although not a sustained speed, it would be over the rating of your tires. My Goodyear Endurance tires are good to 87 MPH but I never tow over 63 MPH unless passing. I tow at max PSI rating of 65 PSI and noted that while on a long stretch of road on a hot day, my PSI will increase to 75 PSI and the tire temperatures will go up towards 120-125 degrees Fahrenheit. Hope this is normal. I have towed approximately 1200 miles on 3 recent trips with no issues.
The square profile results in a larger contact patch, which distributes the weight better.
Southern tire mart is the best!
Great - I like overkill. Now what’s the recommendation for strengthening the wheel well? To protect the various pipes and wires running in close proximity.
Not much that can stop even a relatively light tire when it bursts.
Does anyone make a good trailer tire for smaller RVs with 14” wheels? I checked the Goodyear Endurance and a couple of other highly rated brands and they don’t make their good tires in the smaller sizes.
Quick question as I was watching your videos, I could not help but notice that the leveling device hang so low. My question is have you ever had a issue with them binding with something or getting hit with road debris.?
Hello. I plan on raising the legs and will make a video showcasing the process. They are sitting 1" lower because of the snap pads.
J.D were you a tire in a former life? I still have Chyna...Gyna.. bombs on my rig, but looking to upgrade someday. Nice tire
What psi did you put in the j rated tires and does the wheel support that psi pressure??
JD
What do you think of the Etrailer Provider ST235/80R16 Radial Trailer Tire - Load Range G it has a speed rating at M-81 mph
I generally run 60- 65 mph but I also pull a boat behind my toy hauler so sway control and heat is something I’m very concerned with.
Tow vehicle is a 2020 F450 toy hauler is a Momentum 354m with disc breaks. I live in Colorado so lots of mountain driving.
I've heard really good things about those tire though I haven't personally tested them.
Do they help to improve gas mileage of the tow vehicle?
Man, I want some on my trailer
Great video! I have an 8000 pound travel trailer and I want to upgrade to better tires.
Very nice tires. Maybe a little tire shine would show those off a little better. :)
I know it’s been a while since you posted this video. What psi do you run in those tires
If you step up from a 16 ply tire to a 18 ply tire I know it's going to cause a stiffer sidewall is that going to cause any damage to the RV far as being so stiff and cause any cracking or any frame problems I know I've heard say that if it comes with a six-ply put a six on it if it comes with a 10-ply put a 10 ply on it
With the weight that's on the tire, there will still be side wall flex. It will certainly be stiffer but between the taller side profile and the Road Armor suspension, it should be fine. Coachmen even put J rated 18ply tires on it.
@@BigTruckBigRV I appreciate you responding back to me about that because I want sure my son-in-law had a Forest Glen 41 ft RV fifth wheel and he put from 12 to 16 ply on hit and they were on the way to Florida and got to Florida and noticed a crack on the sidewall on both sides at the top of the camper and we were wondering if him stepping up in the implies would have caused a problem far as stiffness and caused the problem with the frame of course it was sent back to the factory in Indiana and he put the same tires back on it to come on it from the factory so they wouldn't be no issues with that but we were kind of concerned that we didn't know if the stiffer side balls had anything to do with cracking the side walls on the outside the camper like again I said I appreciate you responding back to me about that
How much clearance do you have for the stabilizers? On video they look close, five/six inches from the ground. Any worries catching them on potential road debris?
Future project :) will video it of course
Are your wheels rated for the tire pressure
Are there lift points indicated or designated to lift your rig. If they don't have designated lift points similar to cars/trucks why not. Is it because the frames are sold as a generic RV trailer frame and the frame manufacturer will have no idea of the final deliverable products loading?
Agreed! I do believe LCI should integrate some frame reinforcements in areas that act as dedicated lift point.
Are they available in ST235/80R16, if when will they be available?
I've seen those tires show quite a bit of river wear. On the center ribs especially.
Did You Check the Date Of Manufacture too ensure your getting Full life use?
Late 2020
The Goodyears are used right? How many miles rolled on them?
JD I have question about the leveling jacks. Why can’t the manufacturer tuck the jacks up higher like the ones in the front?
They can be adjusted. I will likely raise mine slightly.
@@BigTruckBigRV i was going to ask the same thing. Those jacks are pretty low and look like they could easily hit just going over a speed bump or something minor.
They are adjustable I moved mine up for the same reason
When I went to H rated 17.5" tires, I noticed items in the rig were tossed around a lot more than with the G rated.
Yep and its also hard on the frame structure of your trailer, good chance it will cause frame flex also. When you have a heavy duty truck that's stiff and heavy duty tires on your trailer, somethings got to give and it'll be the weakest which is the frame on your trailer especially the ones with the double slide up front on a 5th ( Frame flex)
Still watching the vid and I would never ever jack up on those axles no matter what he had for a contraption
@@wadeh9302 what should he have used?
The RV industry needs to move to the equivalent for the heaviest rigs of what you would find on dump trucks cement trucks only they wouldn’t have to be quite that robust but they are called super singles capable of a lot of weight very long where characteristics no chance of a blowout and they last for more miles than you could put on them installed on an RV, these continentals in many ways or like super singles. You will never have a blowout with this tire unless it went down and you didn’t notice which is impossible because you have TPMS
I dont know what your RV weights, but my manual for my Montana says jack by frame only. The RV dealership i go to for repairs will only jack RV's in my weight class by the frame.
I would never let anyone jack by the axles.
Good reference. So, I asked them about this. It's a safety thing more than anything. Jacking up by the axles can create an unstable load if it's windy or not on perfectly flat ground. This can lead to the RV tipping or leaning. The frame is a far more stable platform. The problem is, most don't have tall enough jacks if on the side of the road. Of course you should NEVER jack an RV up from the center or near the center of the axle.
Hello JD, nice tires. A couple of questions. What did you do with the knax tires? I thought you might keep them for your dump trailer.
Did you have the spare tire balanced as well?
Thank you for sharing your experience.
Hello! I am going to do exactly that. I didn't get the spare balanced....yet, you'll see why in a future video :)
@@BigTruckBigRV Thank you for the response. My guess is you are going to learn to balance them your self.
Good replacement tires when the dump trailer need new ones. Good way to safe money
FYI the 245 is NOT the width of the tread. It is the section width of the tire. Additionally Coachman did you no favors installing the Goodyear K max tire. That is better suited for metro and short regional use. The tire most top of the line manufacturers use is the Goodyear G114. They are for long haul usage, like the Conti’s you installed. The G114 has more ribs which can do a better job of maintaining contact patch during wet conditions.
G114s are good tires, but boy have a heard of quite a few failures of them on RVs. Not sure why.
@@BigTruckBigRV the reason - there are a lot more G114’s running up and down the road then Conti’s. Not saying that the Conti’s are bad, but they don’t have the wheel positions that Goodyear has. Also, I would love to inspect the “failures” (was in the tire industry for over 35+ yrs). I’m willing to bet the majority of the “failures” were not a result of the tires, but rather a maintenance issue or road hazard situation.
What problems have the G 114 been having
What tires are you running on your truck??
Sorry just saw your 5th wheel. What is make and model? Thank you!
Coachmen Brookstone
What is the distance between center of axle to center of axle?
Why don't they use your trailer jacks to raise the trailer up? I do not like the jack on the axel at all. I don't know if Continental is the same as they used to be but they were a very good German made tire back in the day. My manual says the jacks LCI (auto level) are made to lift the RV.
LCI doesn't recommend or approve using the jacks to raise the tires off the ground for the purpose of changing them.
@@BigTruckBigRV They just don’t want any liability. They can certainly handle the load.