The TRUTH About Top Dasher... (DoorDash)
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- In this video I took Top Dasher head to head with another phone with a low acceptance rate to figure out if Top Dasher is worth it. In some aspects it is, others, not really. Watch and find out.
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My only complaint is Doordash seems to constantly allow customers outside my dash zone to order from restaurants inside my dash zone... Driving back into the zone is time I could be receiving orders...
I totally agree with you that I be the same way
Uber pays more pays a fare on base pay.. door dash is shit
Amen I’ve gone to a whole different delivery area it’s ridiculous I drive 12 hr days 55-65 hr a week
I have that same complaint
I agree as well@
Drop a damn subscription people! This man went through Tony Xu’s Squid Game for our benefit!
Thanks for doing this on behalf of us all so we can see a great breakdown of the top dasher program. Impressed with you research and showing us numbers from all angles. Keep it up Nuggs
It seems to be that Top Dasher is not McLovin approved
Only Tony made money lol
Wow? Nuggs, that’s a whole lotta work & time you put into this Badass vid!! I mean, who else has Ever done anything even remotely close to this? Especially where you have those 2 phones, one being a bonafide Top Dasher & the other a Dasher. Much Appreciation, Love & Respect to you kids!! So, that said~ THANKS for doing all of this research & testing of this Top Dasher debate!! Now go and rest up!! 😊😇
THIS is the way to test TD theories. Way to go Science Glasses Man
I'ma be honest... I don't think top dasher is worth period. I sometimes have days when it's slow but it's not all the time. I would rather wait 10-20 minutes than take a 3 dollar order.
I'll use other apps before I take an unprofitable order. Drivers have expenses that add up quickly. This is a luxury service not a goodwill delivery service.
@@r.d.9399 exactly
I know it's bad but occasionally I'll take a 3.25 order if it's going withing a mile or so...
I agree with all these comments!! Except taking $3.25 ever!!! Never!
The only benefit of being a top Dasher in my opinion is to be able to dash whenever you want but if it is always busy in your area then there's really no benefit. I will never try to be top Dasher.
If y’all didn’t realize a week early before scheduling a dash if you check at 11pm at night you’ll be able to pick all the time slots you want like 5 days in advance that’s how I do mines even if I don’t end up working the dash I schedule I still scedule a bunch of time slots just in case literally too dasher is not worth it when you can just do it this way
Yep! This is what I do too.
Hey Nuggs I got a challenge for ya...
Can you pull of a 14hr shift in a Halloween Costume for a day within the month of October
Lmaoooooo oh naw.🤣
Much love from anaheim ca , When im not watching this channel I’m watching Seven Hunnid on RUclips
I would love to see this
**13 hours
yes pls lol
The best investigation into Top Dasher "benefits" I've seen! Thanks to you and Kayla for doing this for us!
I made substantially more when I started to ignore acceptance rate and only approve things over $1 per mile and a min of 8$ overall. My rate fell, but my earnings went up.
Same here 👍🏾
What area do you drive?
@@BlessedGrant Big city suburbs. Few things help
1: only dashing in the evening/night (less traffic, less stop lights, less gas)
2: Never accept fast food places if you think the lobby is closed.
3: wait for small local places or chain places that only have a lobby, no drive thru.
4: 1$+ per mile min
5: short distances is best even if price is good to keep gas cost down
6: Accept all alcohol orders you can, as these are the orders where I get actual cash tips.
i only accept orders over 6 dollars so many times in philly they give you 3.25 to drive 5 miles at a burger king or wendys
You won't take $7 for 2 miles?
I see you 2 around town all the time😊 I appreciate the videos. I was forced to sell my business during the pandemic. This helps to keep my mind busy and puts a few dollars in my pocket. Definitely needed as my son just started college 🤦🏻♀️ Love watching your videos
You go Mel!!
You mean the scamdemic
The 🐐. Appreciate what you do man! Looks like you lost some money to be a top dasher in your market and after you guys would basically make the same amount of money on a shift. So no benefit? Only to dash now, which could be helpful in a smaller market as you said. But is it worth it if you lose money initially? Great video nuggs!
Nuggs just helped all of us Dashers make a better informed choice.
You didnt just do this for science, you did this for humanity!
You had me at "nerdy"!
Hey man, I picked up a go pro, 4 batteries, chest mount, and head mount. Can't wait to start capturing my dashes this way 😄
Let me know how it goes. I want to try the same
@@tjlevey378 I think it'll work out just fine because you really only have to get over the fact that people will stare at you 🤣 doordash is my only job so I don't care what they think it's for my protection, job security, and it'll be great for RUclips content.
@@TheExploringZ I kinda wonder if maybe it's necessary for security,order disputes,etc maybe can write off tax
@@mobettabud30 I actually returned the gopro and I have never had any issues in a very long time. I dash in such a way where no disputes happen.
This was a great breakdown! Much appreciated 🙏 Especially bc I'm in a Midwest market.
Also part of your Top Clown cost was the *additional gas you spent on the additional miles, and the *added depreciation to your auto parts which you would not have added. The additional depreciation thing is the hardest factor to quantify because from that point on you're always driving the vehicle on a higher amount of wear, so all wear you incur from that point forward accrues more quickly since the car is more worn down to begin with. Day after day. Snowballs.
I wish you were the only dasher to do this because I get so many suggestion of other dashers doing this but they don’t quite do it any justice keep it up
Love your post times, because I have a fresh Nuggs video at my work break time!!! Keep it coming.
The side by side comparisons of the two of you is very interesting. Great information. We need more Kayla in your videos. I hope you 2 can do more of the dash at the same time videos
What up dude-This is Victory’s Voice-I talked to ya at the Penn Station on Monday-Good to see ya & stay stay/ make that money fellow Dasher…..
Thanks for these last 2 videos showing top dasher. I used to get excited about being one until I realized, I make less $ working more hours as a top dasher 😳😡, than simply not caring about the acceptance rate. Dashing in NY, orders are pretty frequent and it’s 100% better just taking the orders you want and not settling for crap orders ($3 - $5 orders when busy).
Walmart will crush most top dasher dreams
If you don't want Walmart orders, just submit a ticket to remove it from your queue list.
@@bcandyolsen8077 how
@@AD-wg8ik Call Driver support and ask them to file a ticket.
What you need to do is a month long test with TD vs normal dashsr. Then you can see the average with less variables.
I know this would be tedious, but I think I noticed a pattern if you take multiple orders in a row, you get better orders after/priority. Would love to see a vid on it
I think that also. seems like once I take 1 or 2 orders , I dont have to wait so much
@@dronedaze yeah in my market after 2/3 in a row I usually get fire
I have noticed this as well, you are being rewarded for moving
So I'm not the only one seeing this! Maybe it really is true.
Im actually getting way more money with being a Top dasher with less orders. I guess everyone has a different experience
yES FINALLY DUDE! This video finally puts to bed a ton of questions door dashers have, this one is a must see video!!
Thank you for doing this. This is actually what I thought. Lol the background music you use is hilarious at 6:54🤣
It’s like u knew I just hopped In the shower and loaded up RUclips to watch something lmao.
I'm from Cullman, AL. You have to look at the area. It looks like a pair of pants. When it's red, the pants are on fire 🤣🤣
That was as clear as mud LOL. I'm still wondering if I should go for Top Dasher. I'm at 62% so it would not take much but in my market, as long as I set schedules each week, I have no issues being able to dash. The only issue I have is if I want to not set a schedule (which I don't mind doing, but wish I could be freer and more spur of the moment) then I have to wait for it to be busy. So honestly, I may go for it for 1 month and see the difference and if it's worth it. Great video, love it!
Hey Nuggs. I agree with your assessment on top dasher. I live in West LA and I was a top dasher for 2 months. Not worth it man! I had to take too many crappy orders to maintain that status. Now I cherry pick and make more than I did when I was top dasher. Gas prices, lack of parking, constant traffic, car maintenance etc make it not profitable to maintain top status here. You can't drive 12 miles for $7.00 where I am. It's just not a smart option for a driver.
You can still cherry pick while being top dasher. I do it and still retain my top dasher status. Just because you get an order and it’s crappy doesn’t mean you have to take it because you’re top dasher
Dude. You put so much detail into this. This is great
Thanks Nuggs for taking the hit for science, much appreciated. Watch your videos all the time, and I'm fucking guilty of not being subscribed as well. Just fixed that. Keep on keeping on brother!
It's worth considering, speaking for California, that because of our minimum wage and Prop 22, our minimum hourly ACTIVE rate is $18/Hr. Even if you take long mileage, lower paying orders, doordash will bump you up at the end of the week to that minimum. As long as you are actually on an order you are making 18 bucks an hour, so it can be good to stay active instead of waiting for golden orders. Obviously the problem with that is that lower paying orders seems to often mean lower tips, which doordash doesn't compensate you for.
One thing that gets an automatic decline from me is food bank orders. I did that once, I figured, I have a Kia Sedona minivan, so I can do that...found out it's like $2 per delivery average, and I was going all over Akron, including some sketchy areas. Not worth it IMO.
Today I was doing Wadsworth/Barberton like I usually do, and it kept on trying to throw a food bank order at me (Akron/Canton regional). I kept declining and it STILL kept throwing it at me...my acceptance was at around 75% and it plummeted to 24%. WTF. Even though I kept selecting "I don't want to go to this store." Get a clue! It was so slow, and all I kept getting was Walmart (another automatic decline) and food bank, I said "screw you guys, I'm going home." LOL
So...forget about being top dasher. Besides, I travel with my teenaged son, who's on the autism spectrum and can't be left home alone. Generally he's quiet, he just watches videos on his phone. Still, an 8 hour day is out of the question because he'll get antsy, and I don't blame him.
Lately the app has kept throwing orders at me that I keep declining. Now my strategy is, if it throws me a declined order, I decline again and immediately end my dash. Then I wait a few minutes hoping someone else will take the order, then I start a new dash - which, as top dasher, I can do any time. This has worked so far, but it still pisses me off that the app does this. If you decline an order, the app should never throw it at you again.
@@richardreinertson1335 Especially if you pick "I don't want to go to this store." Surely some tech geek can do something like that...?
@@Alexandra-fz7lk Right, Alexandra. Unless for some reason DoorDash policy does not allow that tech update, right...
Cool, man. I missed Top Dasher the last two months by a hair. Next month I'll be in and curious to see. Btw - I ride a pedal bike in New York City. Your exhaustive analysis is really helpful.
The ability to dash whenever you want and get priority during slow times makes it worth it for me
But you can dash whenever you want already without being top dasher
@@Onelove92 That's true, as long as the area is busy & lit up in red though.
@@Onelove92the town I lived in was basically like that. You pretty much always get on schedule within 15 minutes. Where I'm at now the only shift people don't want is the midnight shift
The most amazing thing you found was that the good orders that went to Kayla first were NOT then sent to you as a top dasher. Thanks for taking a day off for research.
Thank you for clearing up any confusion about this...Helped a lot! you rock sir!
Tony Chu has entered the chat: smdh. Why u exposing my trade secrets?!?
Great explanation. I missed Top Dasher by 4 orders this month. I usually make it. Just fizzled out. It's been slower since I lost it, but you never know, it's hard to figure. Some days are good with or without it. I do agree top dasher is nice to go anytime you'd like. I am in California in a medium-busy zone.
You even made a spreadsheet. That's awesome! Thanks for doing that. It was really informative!
The hilarious thing is that I would expect there to be more top dashers (as a % of people working) when it's slow than not, so the benefit kinda gets canceled out lol...
What's bunk is you get down rated by douchs from mistakes restaurants make.
I'm not a youtuber, but I am a dasher, I had Top Dasher recently in August... before I had a car accident, 2 weeks after getting it, I've recently got a new car and have continued dashing, I didn't get to fully experience what "Top Dasher" was like so this video is very helpful, I've come to realize the kind of car you drive for this job is very important in terms of mileage, can you make a video explaining possible Gas saving strategies or how better to identify orders worth taking based on mileage, I think that would help all dashers better sort thru bad orders or potential time wasting orders, I used to take every order or as many as I could, but based on your videos it looks like I average probably $0.75 per mile, there is definitely some room to grow and I just want to get better.
I just got a no tip offer watching your video as a top dasher. Still gave a like. Better not happen again tho 😂
I accepted a 3.50 order the other day and it turned out to be a 25$ tip for .6 mil
@@user-db5zc1gp6t yeah they are manipulating the orders bad lately. I’ll never understand it. I had a 4.75 turn into 11.75. The best one ever tho was 9.25 and I got $38
I believe now Door Dash does not give a damn about the dashers … Started today with a 4.72 rating and now I have a 4.47 for supposedly UNASSIGNED orders … I called support and the lady yelled at me … Called again and the agent said my name at least 50 times with NO explanation. People don’t rate here in the Bay Area as much, so they’re saying I unassigned myself from 10 orders yesterday. I have a 100% completion rating so how can this be … I have DECLINED orders but never UNASSIGNED. Didn’t help me that he couldn’t understand English that good … I’m DONE!
Love this experiment. It’s too bad you missed out on working though because this week has been crazy busy so far. It’s so random. I went from like 20/hr last week to nearly 30 this week out of nowhere
Less dashers out there since homecomings and stuff going around town u must be aware of things like those I would say
Ive done a 4$ meijer order. Afterwards I recieved 17$ from completion. I literally accept everything except taco bell because the taco bell where I live is dog shit, takes them 10-15 minutes per car and its drive through only. The gm or owner only puts 3 workers in there at night for a line of 30 cars. I only go to taco bell at 1am because its all thats open after that and all the drivers just sit around the lobby shooting the shit with each other until our order is called. Its bullshit there too. Taco bell needs to put 2-3 people on delivery orders. the other 4 on drive through, instead they have one person doing all the delivery orders.
I'm in New York and I will be going for top dasher, simply for the fact that 3 days in this month I have had a dash end glitch, at the very start of my shift. When I work I do straight hours no broken up shifts and trying to schedule right after glitch I would have to wait hours just for broken up shifts of
Great video! Agreed, the only real benefit is you can dash when you want. It also seems they save the undesirable orders for top dashers, because of their high acceptance rate. My friend cherry picks orders and does better than me.
I feel like by slow they mean between lunch and dinner when orders are sparse but they need people there
I just started dashing about a week ago. I'm in the Tacoma Washington area and was really wondering if it was worth it... But I can literally go dashing whenever I want and orders are usually back to back so after watching this I don't think I'm going to worry about it
It's crazy busy in my area. I could get top dasher, but I do this part time, so it's not worth it for me.
Great breakdown!
I like how you tested it to find out and confirmed my suspicions. Good for slow areas, not so much for busier ones.
Awesome work bro 👍. Top dasher 🙈🤑
I dash in a bigger market. I've sat next to another dasher and we pass orders back and forth. Sometimes she gets the first sometimes I get them. Almost 95% of the time we'll both see the same orders.
I’ve noticed that same thing with my family, as we all dash to get extra money.
I also talk to other drivers in my market and we noticed the same thing.
We like to sit and watch who shows up and accepts the 2.50 orders we reject.
Too bad the Para app was nerfed. We could have had more info for the evaluation.
I always thought no way I'm gonna take those 2.50 dollar orders! I take 5.00 when its slow.
My market would be dumb to try to be a top dasher. The zone I am in encompasses what are actually two cities next to each other. The NW area is a college town and the rest is just an average city. Because of the college town being on one side of the main road with all the restaurants and the nice neighborhoods being in the NE area the best place to wait for orders has be sifting through like 5 terrible orders to get to 1 GREAT order. But all those orders get sent to me in about a 5 minute span of time so cherry picking rarely hurts that much. Plus since it is a college town the whole zone is constantly considered busy and other than like 3-4 on week days I can dash without a schedule regardless.
Great breakdown with the top dasher research. Smaller markets should take notice
Sucks we have over 250k people in our area it is all one zone but we have to many full time dashers and out of town dashers coming here🤬 now if your not a top dasher you won't be able to schedule a shift now. It sucks 😭 you can even go a week out and they will have like a 1 hour shift, a last minute shift and then sometimes not even a shift to schedule 🙃 so have to keep that top dasher 🤷♂️ and it seems to always be busy strange 🤔🤦♂️
Ty nuggs!!!! Ur really giving good 👍 content constantly. Have a good night
Way to go Nuggs love your videos way to get out and hustle man keep up the good work!
Good video. Keep up the good work on your channel
They want you to drive 17 miles, to a slow area, but won’t give me a dash in a busy area cause im out side a busy zone?than ask why I declined? Duh
Love the breakdown on this, thank you!
This morning was a bad day for me. Had 7 no tip orders from McDonald’s in a row then got stacked orders like 5 deliveries 30 miles for $25 🤣 and to top it off my Uber eats order for $11 reduced their tip after.
It’s almost like everyone in my area doesn’t tip 😂
Real stats real proof finally someone who proves theories
What I needed thank you! Seems like top dasher would benefit me since I dash between 7-5. Dinner shift here is busy but really not worth it bc if the long waits and traffic
The second perk about subtotal is complete bs because doortrash took away subtitles from orders on driver side. But they didn’t remove it as a listed “perk “ for top trasher
If i got more catering orders id strive to be a top dasher because buying the bag was stupid if I dont have to use it.
I totally agree with you and there is no benefit in dashing in a gray area when you know it's going to be dead but it does come in handy sometimes if you know your market
You totally ROCK Nuggs!
They send it to the top dashers all the garbage when it starts slowing down.
Outstanding content.
Well reasoned conclusion.
Thanks for this vid.
Hey Nuggs! I watched Blake Moore’s video today about top dasher and I thought about going for top dasher for November but now watching your video I’m not sure…
I’m at 30% and live in Indy. I guess it couldn’t hurt to do my own experiments for SCIENCE. Great video!
If your acceptance rate is 30% in your area , top dasher isn’t going to be worth it.
Listen to Nuggs, the other guy is giving advice and he was deactivated on tow platforms for multi-apping. Really go by how your market is but Nuggs is more accurate. I watch both.
This is the realest and most honest video ever recorded (and edited 🙌) on the topic. Thanks for testing this Nuggs! (shouts to Blake too he's equally been doing it). I didn't dash enough my first month to see a difference. But this is super informative. DoorDash definitely wants everyone to accept every order to become Top Dasher so their "completion" rate is on fire. I got approved today for Uber Eats, where you're always a TOP "Uber-er" lol. Looking forward to multi-apping for more choices. I love DoorDash though, I make solid money with it, and I just started in July so their my first boo lmao. Thanks Nuggs you are a SOLDIER...for SCIENCE.
Couldn't agree more that top dasher is BS. The quality of my orders went down drastically since the days I spent taking garbage orders to get top dasher. I was getting catering orders and amazing shop and deliver orders with my acceptance rate in the 20's and haven't seen any since becoming top dasher. I will say all of my Walmart orders have been good since becoming top dasher. Bottom line I'm making far less as top dasher and not really catching any breaks. Never again.
Wow! Thank you for doing this Mr. Science.
One thing to consider… if you weren’t declining every order (during the experiment) on both phones, you likely wouldn’t have received all the offers because you would be occupied or taken out of the area. Does that make sense?
If I have questions or concerns I go immediately to your page and find my answers. I can't tell you enough how grateful I am for you and pointing out the pros and cons. Can't thank you enough! Have a Happy Thanksgiving!🦃 And Merry Christmas! 🎄
Good video! Thanks for being down for the cause!
Thanks for doing this video.. very informative:) dash on !
I like the clean shaven look!
I wouldn’t dash in cities unless I’m on a bike because of parking, traffic, and everyone living in sky high apartments. I once waited 20minutes for a guy to come down and lost a lot of time. Secondly, if it’s not in a 5mile range I’m not doing it idc how much it’s paying. And lastly, I always dash 1st thing in the morning @ 5:50am just when McDonald’s are opening as well as the coneys. No long lines, clear traffic, and I can usually “dash now” instead of waiting or scheduling. I average 5 orders per hr between 6am-8am earning at least $40. Which is what I’m happy making for the day using only $5 in gas.
If DD can send you an order with no tip then they can give you orders with better tips. Top dasher has made an easy life for me in my market and yes I do turn down orders. I drive more miles because of the rural area but the tips are better because of the wealthier customers.
This breakdown is great! Topdasher doesn’t seem that bad
It’s not bad to be one. It’s just really bad to actually qualify because you’ll waste at least a couple days taking crap orders to get your acceptance rate up. Depending on market it might be worth it but I don’t think it is for most people
Delivery sux….I don’t mess with it anymore. Rideshare on busy nights and that’s it. The gig economy is tanking.
I dash whenever I want to. I only want to dash when it's busy lol
This is pretty discouraging as unless a dasher has an absolutely horrible rating everyone in the same area should be getting the same offers. Otherwise it is totally unfair. That said, as long as everyone is at least getting enough orders to work it still beats a 9-5 W2 job where you have zero freedom during work hours and ungodly stress.
Definitely won’t be doing it in my market. 9 dollars for 17 miles or a 6 mile 7.75 order tries to stack for an extra 5.50 for an additional 17.6 miles like it’s ridiculous. With cherry picking I can make 100 in three days. I think it depends on how much you need to live. I need about 500 a month to pay my bills where as my cousin needs 1100 a month. 🤷🏽♀️
How the fuck do you only need 500 a month to live ?
That's awesome bro, truly inspiring
@@user-db5zc1gp6t my family owns acres so I purchased a trailer and live off the land. They only charge me 300 for rent and the rest of my car insurance and phone and dog expenses
@@user-db5zc1gp6t I live in a small town literally like 5 restaurants and a few fast food places. We have a small community college but that’s about it. Rent out here in general really isn’t high. It depends on where you live really
Watched your video about working at Wendy’s, it’s crazy they didn’t pay you anything for all those hours. Starting pay at Wendy’s in my area is 17$ an hour
Very cool results!
In my market with a HEAVY Dasher presence - being Top Dasher has its benefits.
Remember; you can schedule ANY shift you want and further out on calendar than non Top Dashers.
Reserve that spot and keep another Dasher out! LMAO.....
As far as bigger orders - I have seen a definite increase in shop and deliver orders that pay pretty good here.
On Sundays as a top dasher I make around $180 in 7 hrs, On Sundays the same 7 hours as a non top dasher I make $100 or less.
I have been wondering whether or not top dasher would be worth it or not. My area isn't busy all of the time so the biggest benefit for me would be dashing whenever I want so that's a huge perk.... but lose the Harry Potter glasses LOL!
love the content do you do this full time?
Thank you for this video! I thought about working to be a top dasher and after seeing this, I don't think it is worth it in my market. I normally do get orders pretty consistently, and the slow down times, are normally times I don't dash anyways. I appreciate your efforts sir!
That $10.25+ offer screen you see for 3.6 miles could pay out $56. Cherry pickers are fools. All ego, beating their chests saying I only accept good orders. You know what? Top dashers accept almost all offers, cuz algorithm likes it “take this $6 for 2.8 miles n I’ll send you this nugget.” 2nd order pays out $39.96 for 20 minutes work. You don’t take either? You get trash orders. Game up people! I don’t make RUclips videos but after 3 years dashing? I’ve figured out some things. “Take this small order n drive to this area n you’ll get a banger order nearby paying big.”
@@laureens4357 Sorry but that’s not how it works. As someone that has an 85% rate in the market I am in now I can tell that accepting all orders still makes no different. It didn’t work when I was in the other market where I normally kept a 20-30% rate and now in the market rate I am in i keep a 75%+ rate and have been top dasher multiple times and accepting all orders does not matter. It really is market dependent and you have to take orders that make sense to you. I’ve been in both types of markets and many in between across cities, counties, and state lines.
Do you deliver to many rich people houses? You should do a video on them tipping. There is a theory going on that rich people tip less than non rich people.
I dash In dc and delivered to 3 million dollar houses and 5 millions dollars houses and they actually tip more my biggest tip next to catering orders are from rich people Now some of the people who live in downtown DC in the $2500 a month apartments are cheap not a lot but some
The rich people tip the average $3-$5 like everyone else in my market. Surprisingly apartment delivery’s tip best lately around me.
@@EvilKaNegro b I delivered $68 worth of food to a guy the other day got a $20 tip total payout $24 delivery distance 1.3 miles i love dc
Most but not all of my lower-tip deliveries are for people in apartment buildings that require time to find the apartment. I get some lower-tip orders for folks in large houses too, but customers in large houses are substantially more likely to tip higher and to have hidden tips.