I'm not letting them suck me into accepting their $2 orders. I will continue to cherry pick regardless of how they try to con me into paying out of my own pocket to work for them.
Yeah but what about dasher who barely affords to run all the orders cause it's only option they have and then they never get good orders because cherry pickers steal them all that's fked up I get if you using more than one app and pausing or something but if you just stealing only good orders thats only really fukingover the people poorer than you doing door dash not fking over the company
same here I used to get crazy catering orders all the time I was eligible for those orders simply because I had a catering bag I've noticed a hugeee difference with this new program Its taken my acceptance rating down to 2% I pretty much only take Uber orders while getting terrible order after terrible order on doodah
How do you figure, when I had a high AR i avg'd 18-22 an hr with high mileage, cherry picking I avg 18-40 an hr with low mileage? Most I made was 100 an hr with an AR of 38.
@@Canttouch123 Maybe, But I met a 63yr old man that only dashes 1hr a night and he got a 93 dollar tip on a chiplote catering order. I met him at a mcdonalds as we talked. Its a matter of cherry picking or just luck I really dont know. I do this crap full time and some days Ive made crazy money and somedays crap! Its all just luck and dealing with the algorithm I guess.
Sorry bro but I kinda like that I get more orders than you 😂. Why are you only taking 50 percent? Run uber eats and pull that on there. I worked for my AR and to get my 4.9 rating. Sounds like a skill issue.
I got deactivated randomly 11 days ago. Turned out to be a complete blessing - started full-time W2 with benefits today $24/hr. I was starting to despise DD between the $2 base pay and shitty tippers. Never again!
Actually, what bothers me is the 100 deliveries over 30 days. It absolutely affects part timers the most! I’ve been a top dasher in the large order program for a year. But I managed it by doing full days a couple times a month then avg about 5-10 hrs a week. Now I feel like I have to dash everyday to dash anytime.
@DeathstarsEG I have my ways of keeping the AR above 70 that I wont get into on youtube.... but yeah the algorithm is very hit or miss. Bold of you to assume I don't multi app as well
no pay either the way they stack orders and only pay 2 dollar base for all three. not seprately like legit 2 dollars to deliver off one poor guys tip meaning you can make two deliveries for absolutely free
Mr Joe Biden said, he just wanted the gig apps to ''treat'' us as EMPLOYEE STATUS lol... I dont beleive a thing out of that guys mouth!!! That dude is fake as all hell!!!! Joe is only to help out the shadow investors like black rock etc..
There are literally forcing people who’s been top dasher to work everyday to be able to dash wherever you want. It’s not a part time job any more. You’re an employee
We have St Paul and Minneapolis!!! we have gangs and hoods and poverty and homelessness!!! Dont go into unsafe areas just to worry about your acceptence rate!!! We just had a bunch of shootings in south minneapolis and crime sky rocketing, hell a target near me just had the entire parking lot tapped off!!! We have walgreens and targets and more with massive surviellance systems outside!!! I dont take orders that lead me to these places there for I will always make it home alive!!!!! Nor will I ever care for a top dasher or tier program, I will always be a contractor and if they remove the reject button I will move on as I plan too anyways!!! Dont be fooled into fueling the stock market, be a contractor as u orginally signed up for and if u cant move on and be smart!!!!!
My market just changed to this. Completely slowed down everything. Its a big 💀, gonna be doing EBT and hopefully platinum status actually pays something worth a damn when i get there
I left DoorDash almost a year ago and started delivering for Papa John’s. I am making tremendously more money now like 20+ an hour plus mileage pay. I never made anywhere close to that dashing in the same market.
@@nocturnus6 Typically, Drivers at PJs do dishes, trash, sweep, mop and fold boxes. I've worked at PJs before and quit when they forced tips to their ATM credit cards. It cost me money to get my money.
dawg in my area they pay minimum wage. Yeah, you do get mileage reimbursement and cash tips, but you also get way less freedom and don't get the tax deduction for contract work. So i think in my area, its basically the same income.
I have came to the conclusion that No matter how you look at it with the DoorDash program DoorDash is like a casino and the house always wins and the drivers lose
Yeah, perhaps in the end, been doing this full time for 7 months, always making atleast 1k a week but how ever, with the cost of life and bills, I wonder everyday to go back to a w2 until I land something good.
No Dash now even when it's busy? I was able to dash now in a Rewards zone, because it was busy. I'm also able to schedule there even though I shouldn't be able to with my 30% AR. Seems odd.
@nocturnus6 I'm a platinum dasher, and in my zone, it will turn bright red, and it will let u dash now, but only for 30 minutes. If you don't schedule at 3 pm in the first 20 seconds, u pretty much can't work.
On southern California, for platinum you need 80% acceptance rate,4.8 customer rating,and 98% completion rating,and 150 monthly deliveries a month...which is insane..i been dashing last two weeks and getting very low offers and alot of shopping orders...it's worse than top dasher
@@JoshLang-h7r I just started a couple days ago because my regular job just booted half our employees down to part time, so I'm just trying to make ends meet temporarily. At least I start out with a high acceptance rate by just talking all the orders right off the bat so I can learn faster.
Hey its true - when I was a kid I worked with Mexicans all the time, worked our asses off but enjoyed every minute it staying busy. Then when construction was hot in mid 2000 alot of whites included. Now I inspect construction sites and its back to Mexican workers, shit still getting done, just back to faster
@NuggsDD not sure, it's city dependent even here. It just came to mine about 3 weeks ago or so. Some people said they don't have it in theirs yet though. Wouldn't be surprised if it eventually is like that for everyone but maybe it could be for the states with the extra benefits like you said.
This is structured to force drivers to take bad orders without actually forcing them to It is VERY difficult to make money when you are locking out drivers who don’t want to take part in this Not having a cap on drivers and having programs like this is going to make it harder for drivers to make any sort of money Go back as little as 2 years ago and it was ALOT easier to make money as a driver but now it’s nearly impossible for most drivers to do so
Something to note, the critera is different per market. Over in Southern California silver is 60 AR while gold&plat is 80. Plat needs 150 in the last 30 days, and the completion rate and customer rating are also stricter across the board. Plat and Gold want 97% completion and 4.8 customer rating, while silver wants 95% and 4.7. I strongly suspect that they are going more aggressive in areas with too many dashers (or too many top dashers?) Also, the dash now is worded far differently. Platnium says you're the "first in line" to start dashing as opposed to gurenteed anytime.
Over here in California the silver is 70% acceptance and 95% completion… you can’t get platinum until 150 deliveries in 30 days and 4.8 customer rating plus the previous requirements. It’s miserable
I used to think priority access didn't mean anything, but after watching a few of the more credible youtubers, I think there's something to it. It may not work in every market, but it works in some. I keep my AR around %30 and I just don't see a lot of high paying orders, whereas gold level dashers I talk to around here see orders I never see.
Well said when explaining accepting 7/10 orders. I'm not saying accept the order going 15 miles for $3.75 but when that 5 mile order for $10 comes in bro just take it. You're making $10 for 11 minutes of driving on your butt. Cmon now lol. Some dd drivers complain abit too much.
In my area platinum requires 80%AR 97%CR 150 deliveries. It's impossible to hit these numbers when scheduling just another scam DD playing games I refuse to play
I live in California, and they just added this a few days ago. However, my ratings require 60% acceptance rate for silver, 80% for gold and for platinum is 80% acceptance, 97% completion, 4.8 customer rating and 150 deliveries!!!
I used to get big orders plenty of times in 2022, and I haven't gotten one since last summer. This system wants to punish you for not taking crap offers, where either you have to drive real far, or you don't make nearly enough to make the trip worth it.
The hidden tip was probably the customer tipping after checking their order. My wife and I have resorted to this because most of our orders were completely botched by the driver. And once we complained to a DoorDash, they are really making it hard to receive a refund.They resort to giving you a credit on your next order.
My AR is 10% and I got $13 in 11 hours today. I really have no other option for work so I just sit and wait. Will continue to do so until I get enough for what I need.
dash now in Miami is worthless, nothing but a bunch of $2 and $3 orders all the way till your AR is in the 70% or below. Then you have to go through the bull again. My beef is that as soon as you don't take an offer, your AR goes down. But you can deliver 10/20/30 offers daily and still not get an AR point. Maybe one or two in a week, why, why, why?
When he comes to hidden tip showing it has to be a tip given before the order is sent out…since they can tip pre during and after delivery that will determine if it’s going to show you a tip at all during the order at acceptance or after drop off
When this update came out it killed my earnings I went from making 1200-1400 a week to 700 or less I knew it was time to quit 4 years ago when I started it was easy to make money but now they just like playing games
I knew this video would be coming soon haha! I hate this new bullshit and I'm in the process of getting my AR to 50% so I can start getting good orders again. All I get now is orders in the $2-6 range unless they're going way out to the middle of nowhere or the ghetto.
Sup Nuggs... you should get as many CC's as you possibly can. I would love to teach you some things regarding credit, or just do some research. Credit = access to EVERYTHING, including loans for real estate. This doesn't mean to apply for CC's back to back, but you should get a new card every 6-12 months.
i've yet to say no to an order about 500 in so far. i notice about 17 an hr with no top dasher and about 22 an hr with top dasher. but there still are days where it's trash pay.
Drivers who add a bike and then use a car for orders get flagged for saying they are moving faster than a bike generally allows. There has been false flags alot from people on E-Bikes who go over a certain speed.
They're bringing this to my area tomorrow. Seems like they are helping out people like me that are always above 70% AR. While those who don't have to schedule now. And if too many of us +70% people are dashing. No shift for you
Guys today is august 23, 2024 & right now as a platinum dasher I haven't been able to schedule because whenever I do now, i'd click save dash & then it'll say "this timeslot is no longer available, pick a different time." I then called the VIP support and I couldn't get help. has any of you guys that are platinum dasher are having these issues right now?? i live in the fresno area & they also moved the 70% ar back to 80% i remember the first day I heard the update and I was able to "dash anytime" & now its' longer there
I had a 68% acceptance rate when they started this program. I didn't make any money, so i ended my dash. Ended up spending 6 hours getting 2 deliveries to get platinum because I couldn't get anything more than 1/2 hour shift. i don't know if it's just my area, but they pretty much shut me out without platinum.
This is my 2nd month of being top dasher. I just got the new program email today. Because if covid & vehicle being in shop twice, i doubt if i will meet the requurement of 100 deliveries in the last 30 days when im able to start dashing again. Btw, gas in my town is $3.89!
Problem is my area is the size of Russia and China combined! I constantly have to pause my dash after every delivery to minimize the amount of offers going to the moon. Keeping my acceptance rate at 70% every day will not work for me.
I've pretty much stopped dashing. It's to much on the car, and not enough pay out in my market. Dasher insists on crapping on its workers. It's definitely not 2019/2020 doordash
I don't like the new program but I get $20-48 orders and I'm a cherry picker with 13% -30% acceptance, I can still see 7 days of schedule and claim the shifts. My conclusion- if you're willing to do shop and pay you still get priority high orders despite low AR (Los Angeles). Also they stopped hiding the tips for me🤷🏽♀
I stoped doing doordash when I got accepted into spark driver. I make more drive less miles in the long run and I don’t have to take crap orders to maybe get good orders.
Uber tried to bait us into their tier incentive scheme.. I just stopped doing Uber and Uber Eats in December. Dash Now isnt always available even if you are Platinum. Honestly, I could migrate between zones in my county and still make money at 80% A/R, 1 dollar plus per mile for 4 hrs a day as a Top Dasher. If DD aint busy, I dont mind only working (active) for 12 hrs a week. I aint the type to be logged in to jump on any ol' order. My car just isnt avail. to DD or any hustle for less than 23. per hr.
Seems like the DD earning potential has gone up in my market. Will no life next week to make sure. EBT after hours has been pretty good for AR as well the hours you stated.
If you ever want to make a major purchase, like a house, you’re going to need credit. The down part is that you have to use it or they’ll revoke it, & that’s why I only use it to pay utilities & pay it off every month.
Last month, I started using hourly pay to increase my acceptance rate and ended up on the platinum/catering program. It's true you'll get a lot of good orders, but also bad orders too. I still cherry-pick, but not as much as I used to. Sometimes, I'll accept orders under $2 per mile to keep my acceptance rate up, but I'll never accept a no tip or backward order.
i cherry picked today and i still get orders that are $7 for 2 miles or $10 for 4 miles back to back. i think its broken because yesterday i got a delivery for ulta for 13 miles $41 bucks? lol
So, my personal experience has been that nothing has really changed for me. I hover around the 30% acceptance rate because I don't like taking orders less than $9. I still get the orders and I haven't had trouble scheduling my dashes. I think this is just another attempt for the DD Platform to try and get these $2 and $3 orders taken care of.
This is nothing new. Nuggs is close but not correct. It took me half of a year to understand when i first started. It's not simple, takes some time to work out the math. Been nearly 3 years since.
Damn I saw this video and wondered if you had seen a post on what they did to me. I was a top Dasher and they got rid of me because I filed a complaint against a woman for what she did when I delivered to her.
They are moving toward a full on hourly rate for everybody. markets that have customers who regularly tip over 3 dollars per order on majority, hourly rate will be lower. those markets will have better time with per order. if you are in a market that tips under that per order on average, your "hourly rate" will be higher. keep that in mind for your markets hourly rate to judge what you need to do.
I wonder if there is a list of the cities that are still not impacted by that shitty update , and the dates when that is going to happen. I live in Charlotte where everything is still looking fine, but when I traveled to Boston and then to Miami and decided to open a DD app that was the first 2 times when I saw that shitty update.
Bro Platinum is in Statesville, Mooresville and Davidson now. I dash in Davidson and they make you get your numbers up before you can get platinum. I need to deliver 13 more offers to be eligible. It’s bs with a capital B!
I have had no issue with new system, I am 21% AR and I made 60 in two hours yesterday. I get some good offers, some bad and some let me think about it orders. I am not in a huge market but as a part time dasher who also runs Uber it has been business as usual
It' all BS, I and many of my friends have tried ordering from them and the orders go hell knows where. They don't give a refund and expect to do business that way. The Idea is half baked and we all closed our accounts. Many urban cities have robots running around delivering hot food and they actually let you know when they get to your house and hand you the food. Let's see who wins this round.
You will absolutely be delivering terrible orders for this company regardless of your tier. The whole AR system is a carrot on a stick. Scummy tactics as always.
Not this guy. I have 1 method of doing this. Order comes, I think, Does this order make sense? If so I accept, If not, Decline. it has slowed down,but it slows every summer. If DD continues like this, they will be in the same boat as GH in my area. GH was 35% of the business 2 yrs ago. Today, they are about 5%. They have no drivers because they dont make money. DD will be in this same position very soon..
I do earn by time when it's slow normally. Helps get my ar up above 50 and I get consistent orders with compensation from from the hourly pay to keep me at $15-20 an hour (I also ask for tips because I can't see tips beforehand on earn by time and that actually helps too lol)
I have a 25% acceptance rate. I was bored the other day and was like let’s see if I can make any money. got trash order, declined it and then I got a $28 order for “two orders” from the same place that went to the same person. Took me 30 minutes and I went home.
Been doing this for a year or more in my area, combined with stacked orders that have one base pay of $2 and oversaturation of drivers. They also have this thing now where they rate your driving after every shift , telling you if you stopped/started to quickly etc. /sarcasm Good thing I am my own boss. Notice they roll these changes out slowly to different areas at a time so we are not all upset in unison and less likley to revolt. The whole high pay thing is a scam because whats high pay for me might not be for you because we are different distances away. $4 becomes a high pay order once you drive within 2 miles of a restaurant, and they will wait until you do.
I'm not letting them suck me into accepting their $2 orders. I will continue to cherry pick regardless of how they try to con me into paying out of my own pocket to work for them.
That's the whole idea with this. It's so ridiculous honestly.
Just multi app. Screw em.
You right, but how do you schedule in doordash doing cherry picker?
Yeah but what about dasher who barely affords to run all the orders cause it's only option they have and then they never get good orders because cherry pickers steal them all that's fked up I get if you using more than one app and pausing or something but if you just stealing only good orders thats only really fukingover the people poorer than you doing door dash not fking over the company
same here I used to get crazy catering orders all the time I was eligible for those orders simply because I had a catering bag I've noticed a hugeee difference with this new program Its taken my acceptance rating down to 2% I pretty much only take Uber orders while getting terrible order after terrible order on doodah
I agree. DD constantly shits on people with AR under 50. They want us to be employees without being employees.
We are employees.
How do you figure, when I had a high AR i avg'd 18-22 an hr with high mileage, cherry picking I avg 18-40 an hr with low mileage? Most I made was 100 an hr with an AR of 38.
I think it does matter for part timers because we can't really get on that much
@@Canttouch123 Maybe, But I met a 63yr old man that only dashes 1hr a night and he got a 93 dollar tip on a chiplote catering order. I met him at a mcdonalds as we talked. Its a matter of cherry picking or just luck I really dont know. I do this crap full time and some days Ive made crazy money and somedays crap! Its all just luck and dealing with the algorithm I guess.
Sorry bro but I kinda like that I get more orders than you 😂. Why are you only taking 50 percent? Run uber eats and pull that on there. I worked for my AR and to get my 4.9 rating. Sounds like a skill issue.
I was debating on returning to doing Doortrash today, but this new program just killed it for me. I'm officially done with Doortrash.
I got deactivated randomly 11 days ago. Turned out to be a complete blessing - started full-time W2 with benefits today $24/hr. I was starting to despise DD between the $2 base pay and shitty tippers. Never again!
@@MarcieAnne-do3yq What job did you get?
@@jacegallagher8589 supervisor job at a store in town
Good for you brother
I've noticed that there's no difference
Actually, what bothers me is the 100 deliveries over 30 days. It absolutely affects part timers the most! I’ve been a top dasher in the large order program for a year. But I managed it by doing full days a couple times a month then avg about 5-10 hrs a week. Now I feel like I have to dash everyday to dash anytime.
Ive had this for almost a year now. Over 70% nonstop since last october/September. Still see bottom of the barrel orders.
When i hear that, i wonder if it's an issue of your area having too many high AR dashers. if you think about it, if everyone has priority, nobody does
@@NuggsDD which is why these programs are bullSht
so why are you still playing their games? learn to multi app. I will never take garbage orders that make no sense
@DeathstarsEG I have my ways of keeping the AR above 70 that I wont get into on youtube.... but yeah the algorithm is very hit or miss. Bold of you to assume I don't multi app as well
That's the main purpose of the program. It's all about trying to force you to deliver more trash.
VIP Dasher support just means they connect you to agents faster 🤣
I've had VIP dasher support. Did not notice any difference in wait times.
Just call yourself an employee with no benefits. Doordash forgot we are independent contractors! 😂🤷🏿🤦🏿
no pay either the way they stack orders and only pay 2 dollar base for all three. not seprately like legit 2 dollars to deliver off one poor guys tip meaning you can make two deliveries for absolutely free
Mr Joe Biden said, he just wanted the gig apps to ''treat'' us as EMPLOYEE STATUS lol... I dont beleive a thing out of that guys mouth!!! That dude is fake as all hell!!!! Joe is only to help out the shadow investors like black rock etc..
Worst thing they could have EVER done!
Welcome back Nuggs!!! You have missed
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Yay! Nuggs is back! Only guy who tells the effin truth!
Been doing the new reward program for 2 month and it sucks, more miles in your car more trash order.
There are literally forcing people who’s been top dasher to work everyday to be able to dash wherever you want. It’s not a part time job any more. You’re an employee
I had to cancel DoorDash after those low paying, high mile orders. Bye Felicia !
We have St Paul and Minneapolis!!! we have gangs and hoods and poverty and homelessness!!! Dont go into unsafe areas just to worry about your acceptence rate!!! We just had a bunch of shootings in south minneapolis and crime sky rocketing, hell a target near me just had the entire parking lot tapped off!!! We have walgreens and targets and more with massive surviellance systems outside!!! I dont take orders that lead me to these places there for I will always make it home alive!!!!! Nor will I ever care for a top dasher or tier program, I will always be a contractor and if they remove the reject button I will move on as I plan too anyways!!! Dont be fooled into fueling the stock market, be a contractor as u orginally signed up for and if u cant move on and be smart!!!!!
Some zones are up to 90% ar for platinum Ala you're an employee my best guess is ebt to 99% then cherry pick back till you're down to 80% rinse repeat
I say 99 bc it's very hard to get to 100 in the rolling 100 bc it maybe 20 more orders away
The only way I can attain a 70% ar is to accept garbage offers. I refuse to be exploited.
My market just changed to this. Completely slowed down everything. Its a big 💀, gonna be doing EBT and hopefully platinum status actually pays something worth a damn when i get there
Door trash 🗑️ is taking after Ubers model… say things are great for drivers when they are really great for the companies 😂☠️
I left DoorDash almost a year ago and started delivering for Papa John’s. I am making tremendously more money now like 20+ an hour plus mileage pay. I never made anywhere close to that dashing in the same market.
It's not just delivering, right? Do you have to clean and take on other duties when not delivering?
@@nocturnus6 yeah but it’s easy
@@nocturnus6 Typically, Drivers at PJs do dishes, trash, sweep, mop and fold boxes. I've worked at PJs before and quit when they forced tips to their ATM credit cards. It cost me money to get my money.
I hate to break it to you friend but DD is fixing to start doing all of PJ'S deliveries. Employees are always the last to know
dawg in my area they pay minimum wage. Yeah, you do get mileage reimbursement and cash tips, but you also get way less freedom and don't get the tax deduction for contract work. So i think in my area, its basically the same income.
I have came to the conclusion that No matter how you look at it with the DoorDash program DoorDash is like a casino and the house always wins and the drivers lose
Yeah, perhaps in the end, been doing this full time for 7 months, always making atleast 1k a week but how ever, with the cost of life and bills, I wonder everyday to go back to a w2 until I land something good.
Hi nuggs ! Glad to see you back 🎉
where did he go?
@nocturnus6 haven't seen his new videos maybe I just missed them
Need to schedule in advance ? That was the only advantage DoorDash had. Might as well work for Amazon !
My zone requires AR of 60 for silver and 80 for gold/platinum. No dash now anytime or flexible scheduling even for platinum. DD can suck it
Same in my zone. Don't forget 150 deliveries
Dash now does not exist anymore
No Dash now even when it's busy? I was able to dash now in a Rewards zone, because it was busy. I'm also able to schedule there even though I shouldn't be able to with my 30% AR. Seems odd.
@nocturnus6 I'm a platinum dasher, and in my zone, it will turn bright red, and it will let u dash now, but only for 30 minutes. If you don't schedule at 3 pm in the first 20 seconds, u pretty much can't work.
Welcome back father Nuggs
I’m a simple guy I see nuggs uploads and I watch
I'm so happy I don't do DoorDash for income anymore. Mad props to you guys for still kicking! Makes me feel like I'm still in the know lol
I tried the 3xpay of orders strategy and it’s definitely the way I’m going to be dashing from now on! Thanks for that Nuggs, you the man bro!
The best door dasher vlog on RUclips some of those other channels are cringe af!!
It’s exact same benefits we have always had but now it’s behind harsher restrictions and being slapped as “new and improved”
On southern California, for platinum you need 80% acceptance rate,4.8 customer rating,and 98% completion rating,and 150 monthly deliveries a month...which is insane..i been dashing last two weeks and getting very low offers and alot of shopping orders...it's worse than top dasher
doordash is simply like how many more dashers can we lose this month
Problem is, they continue to hire new ones that don't know any better. See so many any my market. All ages, 18-80 I swear.
@@JoshLang-h7r I just started a couple days ago because my regular job just booted half our employees down to part time, so I'm just trying to make ends meet temporarily. At least I start out with a high acceptance rate by just talking all the orders right off the bat so I can learn faster.
LOL! the mexican construction worker comments at the end really hit home. I'm mexican hahahha
Hey its true - when I was a kid I worked with Mexicans all the time, worked our asses off but enjoyed every minute it staying busy. Then when construction was hot in mid 2000 alot of whites included. Now I inspect construction sites and its back to Mexican workers, shit still getting done, just back to faster
You have the outdated version. Platinum here in my area is 80% AR, 97% CR, 4.8 customer rating, and 150 deliveries in the last 30 days
I believe it's different in NYC, Cali, Seattle and anywhere that has reimbursement pay. I could be wrong though
@NuggsDD not sure, it's city dependent even here. It just came to mine about 3 weeks ago or so. Some people said they don't have it in theirs yet though. Wouldn't be surprised if it eventually is like that for everyone but maybe it could be for the states with the extra benefits like you said.
Yes in cali is different we get extra pay every week
DD is culling the herd. Too many dummies trying to deliver food. I saw a Ukrainian guy with 3 phones picking up orders left and right.
they finally brought this to my market and i’m done with doordash because of it. no bueno
This is structured to force drivers to take bad orders without actually forcing them to
It is VERY difficult to make money when you are locking out drivers who don’t want to take part in this
Not having a cap on drivers and having programs like this is going to make it harder for drivers to make any sort of money
Go back as little as 2 years ago and it was ALOT easier to make money as a driver but now it’s nearly impossible for most drivers to do so
It's crazy how much better the orders are in your area, where I live you could be dashing for a month straight and not receive a single order above $4
This new program has made it difficult to make good money; it's not worth it.
Something to note, the critera is different per market. Over in Southern California silver is 60 AR while gold&plat is 80. Plat needs 150 in the last 30 days, and the completion rate and customer rating are also stricter across the board. Plat and Gold want 97% completion and 4.8 customer rating, while silver wants 95% and 4.7. I strongly suspect that they are going more aggressive in areas with too many dashers (or too many top dashers?)
Also, the dash now is worded far differently. Platnium says you're the "first in line" to start dashing as opposed to gurenteed anytime.
Over here in California the silver is 70% acceptance and 95% completion… you can’t get platinum until 150 deliveries in 30 days and 4.8 customer rating plus the previous requirements. It’s miserable
If the majority have high AR then it's not exactly beneficial
I have not dashed in months because it was so hard to schedule the hours I was available. I went to Uber.
the acceptance rate and top priority things mean nothing. does nothing, people are dumb
Nah, ppl are hungry (I meen driverz) & DD iz greedy fkrs
I used to think priority access didn't mean anything, but after watching a few of the more credible youtubers, I think there's something to it. It may not work in every market, but it works in some. I keep my AR around %30 and I just don't see a lot of high paying orders, whereas gold level dashers I talk to around here see orders I never see.
Doordash is dead. I can't even get any orders anymore.
Facts
Well said when explaining accepting 7/10 orders. I'm not saying accept the order going 15 miles for $3.75 but when that 5 mile order for $10 comes in bro just take it. You're making $10 for 11 minutes of driving on your butt. Cmon now lol. Some dd drivers complain abit too much.
In my area platinum requires 80%AR 97%CR 150 deliveries. It's impossible to hit these numbers when scheduling just another scam DD playing games I refuse to play
8:46 They lied to me. They said the pizza and catering bag HAS TO BE DoorDash. They straight hustling people 😂
I live in California, and they just added this a few days ago.
However, my ratings require 60% acceptance rate for silver, 80% for gold and for platinum is 80% acceptance, 97% completion, 4.8 customer rating and 150 deliveries!!!
I used to get big orders plenty of times in 2022, and I haven't gotten one since last summer. This system wants to punish you for not taking crap offers, where either you have to drive real far, or you don't make nearly enough to make the trip worth it.
The hidden tip was probably the customer tipping after checking their order. My wife and I have resorted to this because most of our orders were completely botched by the driver. And once we complained to a DoorDash, they are really making it hard to receive a refund.They resort to giving you a credit on your next order.
My AR is 10% and I got $13 in 11 hours today. I really have no other option for work so I just sit and wait. Will continue to do so until I get enough for what I need.
Wow, how many deliveries do you avg a month, I avg 450 or 350 with shop n pays....
Bro you need Uber Eats
I’m Mexican.. and that last comment is 100% true 😂
dash now in Miami is worthless, nothing but a bunch of $2 and $3 orders all the way till your AR is in the 70% or below. Then you have to go through the bull again.
My beef is that as soon as you don't take an offer, your AR goes down. But you can deliver 10/20/30 offers daily and still not get an AR point.
Maybe one or two in a week, why, why, why?
I have noticed that my orders were consistently 8-12 dollars being gold as soon as I was silver my orders were complete cheeks
When he comes to hidden tip showing it has to be a tip given before the order is sent out…since they can tip pre during and after delivery that will determine if it’s going to show you a tip at all during the order at acceptance or after drop off
When this update came out it killed my earnings I went from making 1200-1400 a week to 700 or less I knew it was time to quit 4 years ago when I started it was easy to make money but now they just like playing games
Here platinum is 150 deliveries rolling 30
AR 80%
CR 98
But no dash now except when it’s busy.
So rarely.
The construction worker comment had me 😅😅😅 the secret is a cooler of coronas tucked away where the boss can't see
I knew this video would be coming soon haha! I hate this new bullshit and I'm in the process of getting my AR to 50% so I can start getting good orders again. All I get now is orders in the $2-6 range unless they're going way out to the middle of nowhere or the ghetto.
“Bottom of the barrel orders” shows Wendy’s order. Lol
I done see them from every type of restaurant 😂
im still on the old model as top dasher , idk if it just hasn’t hit yet but im scared
Sup Nuggs... you should get as many CC's as you possibly can. I would love to teach you some things regarding credit, or just do some research. Credit = access to EVERYTHING, including loans for real estate. This doesn't mean to apply for CC's back to back, but you should get a new card every 6-12 months.
i've yet to say no to an order about 500 in so far. i notice about 17 an hr with no top dasher and about 22 an hr with top dasher. but there still are days where it's trash pay.
Funny , I avg'd 27 an hr last friday, today 230 dollars in 9 hrs with DD and UE....When you download the app it states to make 26 an hr...
@@danguts2844 i do not multi app and i did this at hourly rate of advertised 14.50
In my area we still have the Top Dasher stuff.
7:25 Go into bike mode - that is a hack might go back to DoorDash just to try ! Good to see you Nuggs !
Drivers who add a bike and then use a car for orders get flagged for saying they are moving faster than a bike generally allows. There has been false flags alot from people on E-Bikes who go over a certain speed.
They're bringing this to my area tomorrow. Seems like they are helping out people like me that are always above 70% AR. While those who don't have to schedule now. And if too many of us +70% people are dashing. No shift for you
Preciate what you do man. The tips really help
I am in the Silver tier level and this was one of the slowest weeks ive ever had
Guys today is august 23, 2024 & right now as a platinum dasher I haven't been able to schedule because whenever I do now, i'd click save dash & then it'll say "this timeslot is no longer available, pick a different time." I then called the VIP support and I couldn't get help. has any of you guys that are platinum dasher are having these issues right now??
i live in the fresno area & they also moved the 70% ar back to 80%
i remember the first day I heard the update and I was able to "dash anytime" & now its' longer there
I had a 68% acceptance rate when they started this program. I didn't make any money, so i ended my dash. Ended up spending 6 hours getting 2 deliveries to get platinum because I couldn't get anything more than 1/2 hour shift. i don't know if it's just my area, but they pretty much shut me out without platinum.
This is my 2nd month of being top dasher. I just got the new program email today. Because if covid & vehicle being in shop twice, i doubt if i will meet the requurement of 100 deliveries in the last 30 days when im able to start dashing again. Btw, gas in my town is $3.89!
Problem is my area is the size of Russia and China combined! I constantly have to pause my dash after every delivery to minimize the amount of offers going to the moon. Keeping my acceptance rate at 70% every day will not work for me.
I've pretty much stopped dashing. It's to much on the car, and not enough pay out in my market. Dasher insists on crapping on its workers. It's definitely not 2019/2020 doordash
@7:33 So $2.799/gallon gas at Shell? Where is Nuggs from?
Yeah, 7.25 for 4.6 miles exactly, Id have only taken it too if it was slow!
I don't like the new program but I get $20-48 orders and I'm a cherry picker with 13% -30% acceptance, I can still see 7 days of schedule and claim the shifts. My conclusion- if you're willing to do shop and pay you still get priority high orders despite low AR (Los Angeles). Also they stopped hiding the tips for me🤷🏽♀
I stoped doing doordash when I got accepted into spark driver. I make more drive less miles in the long run and I don’t have to take crap orders to maybe get good orders.
Uber tried to bait us into their tier incentive scheme.. I just stopped doing Uber and Uber Eats in December.
Dash Now isnt always available even if you are Platinum. Honestly, I could migrate between zones in my county and still make money at 80% A/R, 1 dollar plus per mile for 4 hrs a day as a Top Dasher.
If DD aint busy, I dont mind only working (active) for 12 hrs a week. I aint the type to be logged in to jump on any ol' order. My car just isnt avail. to DD or any hustle for less than 23. per hr.
Even as a platinum driver in my market we still have to schedule everyday at 3pm.
Seems like the DD earning potential has gone up in my market. Will no life next week to make sure. EBT after hours has been pretty good for AR as well the hours you stated.
If you ever want to make a major purchase, like a house, you’re going to need credit. The down part is that you have to use it or they’ll revoke it, & that’s why I only use it to pay utilities & pay it off every month.
It seems to be about completion rate, and acceptance rate. I’m at 94% CR and my orders dropped significantly
Last month, I started using hourly pay to increase my acceptance rate and ended up on the platinum/catering program. It's true you'll get a lot of good orders, but also bad orders too.
I still cherry-pick, but not as much as I used to. Sometimes, I'll accept orders under $2 per mile to keep my acceptance rate up, but I'll never accept a no tip or backward order.
Nuggs I'm interested in repairs for all those orders you take, oil changes etc. please let your audience know repair costs!
So far no major repairs! Just oil changes and tires which comes out to about $200-250 every 10,000 miles. Not much!
i cherry picked today and i still get orders that are $7 for 2 miles or $10 for 4 miles back to back. i think its broken because yesterday i got a delivery for ulta for 13 miles $41 bucks? lol
So, my personal experience has been that nothing has really changed for me. I hover around the 30% acceptance rate because I don't like taking orders less than $9. I still get the orders and I haven't had trouble scheduling my dashes. I think this is just another attempt for the DD Platform to try and get these $2 and $3 orders taken care of.
I like your new acceptance system. I’m just curious, how do you estimate how long it will take you to deliver an offer?
I've delivered to the same areas 1000 times so I get a rough idea lol, but it's usually 2 minutes/mile here. Medium traffic
This is nothing new. Nuggs is close but not correct. It took me half of a year to understand when i first started. It's not simple, takes some time to work out the math. Been nearly 3 years since.
Damn I saw this video and wondered if you had seen a post on what they did to me. I was a top Dasher and they got rid of me because I filed a complaint against a woman for what she did when I delivered to her.
Wow. Yeah they canned me 3 dayz aftr my TD ended wit no xplanation 😂 #FUDD
They are moving toward a full on hourly rate for everybody. markets that have customers who regularly tip over 3 dollars per order on majority, hourly rate will be lower. those markets will have better time with per order. if you are in a market that tips under that per order on average, your "hourly rate" will be higher. keep that in mind for your markets hourly rate to judge what you need to do.
I wonder if there is a list of the cities that are still not impacted by that shitty update , and the dates when that is going to happen. I live in Charlotte where everything is still looking fine, but when I traveled to Boston and then to Miami and decided to open a DD app that was the first 2 times when I saw that shitty update.
Bro Platinum is in Statesville, Mooresville and Davidson now. I dash in Davidson and they make you get your numbers up before you can get platinum. I need to deliver 13 more offers to be eligible. It’s bs with a capital B!
Great video Nuggs!
I have had no issue with new system, I am 21% AR and I made 60 in two hours yesterday. I get some good offers, some bad and some let me think about it orders. I am not in a huge market but as a part time dasher who also runs Uber it has been business as usual
It' all BS, I and many of my friends have tried ordering from them and the orders go hell knows where. They don't give a refund and expect to do business that way. The Idea is half baked and we all closed our accounts. Many urban cities have robots running around delivering hot food and they actually let you know when they get to your house and hand you the food. Let's see who wins this round.
lol you’re mad
Dont let your dashes slip away, that's what happened to me, no one, not even doordash told me that my dashes would start to disappear.
You will absolutely be delivering terrible orders for this company regardless of your tier. The whole AR system is a carrot on a stick. Scummy tactics as always.
Not this guy. I have 1 method of doing this. Order comes, I think, Does this order make sense? If so I accept, If not, Decline. it has slowed down,but it slows every summer. If DD continues like this, they will be in the same boat as GH in my area. GH was 35% of the business 2 yrs ago. Today, they are about 5%. They have no drivers because they dont make money. DD will be in this same position very soon..
You really should get a credit card, just use it like you would a debit card, don't spend money you don't have and pay it off every day.
The DD brass must be so proud of themselves. They've got most of us chasing a moldy carrot
I do earn by time when it's slow normally. Helps get my ar up above 50 and I get consistent orders with compensation from from the hourly pay to keep me at $15-20 an hour (I also ask for tips because I can't see tips beforehand on earn by time and that actually helps too lol)
I have a 25% acceptance rate. I was bored the other day and was like let’s see if I can make any money. got trash order, declined it and then I got a $28 order for “two orders” from the same place that went to the same person. Took me 30 minutes and I went home.
Been doing this for a year or more in my area, combined with stacked orders that have one base pay of $2 and oversaturation of drivers. They also have this thing now where they rate your driving after every shift , telling you if you stopped/started to quickly etc. /sarcasm Good thing I am my own boss. Notice they roll these changes out slowly to different areas at a time so we are not all upset in unison and less likley to revolt. The whole high pay thing is a scam because whats high pay for me might not be for you because we are different distances away. $4 becomes a high pay order once you drive within 2 miles of a restaurant, and they will wait until you do.
I turned that driving rating bullshit off.
@@FastLaneLyfe ok, didn't know I could do that, you made my day , thank you.
Dude I’m an employee for myself. I do this shit because I like it. And I’m Platinum.