Buckwheat No Till Food Plot How To
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- My Buckwheat Ultimate No Till food plot system has shortened buckwheat supplies and taken over food plots across the country. Here are how my own buckwheat no till food plots are beginning this season, and how you can apply these decades-proven practices to your own lands...
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Stopped at John Comp’s afew weeks ago to pick up my seed. My plots are sprayed and ready to plant buckwheat. Waiting another week before I plant. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Love the videos.
I had such great luck with this method last year that I cleared three more plots in the spring where I'm going to employ the same methods. Thanks Jeff!
That's awesome to hear Josh! Really appreciate the feed back from you. Enjoy the process - I do!!
Jeff, amazed at how many animals are coming to the water holes! It wasn't two days, and we got our first inventory on bucks! Buckwheat next! Thanks for all the information!
Man that is awesome to hear Micheal and you are very welcome!!
Micheal are they drinking from it a lot? Mine seem a little skittish but smell it a lot ha
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 in order to do the no till buckwheat into an existing pasture should I till the first time to get the buckwheat started or will the buckwheat come up from under the pasture grasses if I spray them?
I must have watched a dozen hours of these videos this winter. I just planted six acres over the weekend in Northern Wisconsin. I can't wait to see how it does.
This will be my first year using this method. Plots are ready to go
Jeff, this is a great refresher video for me and it’s perfect timing. I’m going to spread the buckwheat this Memorial Day weekend in central Wisconsin. I know what you mean about shorting yourself with your own great advice! I got my PackerMAXX on order from Lincoln and he is great too but he has the “good problem” of running out of supplies and needing to back order/ long lead time on the cultipackers. Same thing happening with John Comp and his switchgrass. Your success is helping a lot of people AND businesses and I truly believe that is because you give great advice and it’s easy to see that you’re an honest businessman who has his client’s interests at heart and I think that I can speak for everyone who watches your videos when I say that we all greatly appreciate what you do! Thanks again and congratulations on your business success. I look forward to meeting you sometime.
Great tip about smashing it down with the packermaxx and spraying at the same time!! Huge timesaver.
Thanks!!!! 🙂
You are very welcome!! It works extremely well!
Second spray and knocked over my plot last Friday. Plan to broadcast the buckwheat this Saturday. Hand spreader. A single strap 3 gallon shoulder sprayer and a wheelhorse getting it done!
Information as always great sometimes the people don't seem to catch everything and ask questions they should just watch the video again I know I watch him a couple times each and every time thank you Jeff
You should try to contact flair he is a RUclips who just got a 400 acer ranch and I know if he could talk to someone like u, the both of you guys could make the future of his content actually insane, if I get to watch flair hunt places like you’re oh my, would love to see you guys collab
I believe they have already. Dillon is going out there
I got my buckwheat for the year and my local mill asked if I knew why they would be selling buckwheat like crazy this year and last. I told them it was likely because of you and this method.
I’m telling y’all this method works ! I watched his videos last year and I had the best food plots ever !
Like I said I come back and watch him again to pick up a little more information thank you Jeff I know I really appreciate your videos
I just got my buckwheat planted yesterday ahead of a great rain last night. It looks like tomorrow and monday nights will be very cold, but from then on, cold is behind us in the South. I know buckwheat is not cold tolerant. My question is will these next two cold, cold nights impact germination, or is buckwheat sensitive to cold only after germination???
1st year doing this method, my father in law and I have 2 plots sprayed and ready. Plan on doing buckwheat this weekends.
Nice...great timing George and hopefully you get some moisture!!
Is Buckwheat available at places like Fleet Farm or Tractor supply? Or where should I be looking for it?
@@paulcrave3112 I purchased mine at the local farm coop. they had to order it for me and took about a week to get.
@@chrisgeorge2670 one other question. How many pounds per acre is recommended for the buckwheat?
@@paulcrave3112 I'm doing 50lbs per acre. That's what Jeff Sturgis recommends. This is my 1st year trying the no till method. We are following his instructions, we bought the packer maxx for the atv. Last year the food plots failed miserably, didn't get any rain when needed and the weed seeds that were tilled up over took both plots. The coop I bought mine at sells buckwheat in 50lbs bags. Make the measuring easy.
Another favorite.with WHS theyre all going into the favorite coloum.you have the gift to make it very understandable.the best ..I'm use I g this method this yr.thanks jeff
Norm, I appreciate your comments so much...enjoy the process, it is very rewarding!
Just planted buckwheat for the first time, and it’s on a new plot. Wish me luck. Oh, and you may be influencing more people than you know. I went into the farmers co-op and asked for buckwheat, the guy said “I don’t know what’s going on this year, but we have sold about 3x the normal amount of buckwheat so far this year. Everyone keeps coming in asking for buckwheat.” I’m in Alabama.
That's awesome...I get the same up here in WI at my own co-ops and feed and seed. I am shortchanging myself because of my own advice, lol
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Had the same thing happen in upstate NY with switchgrass. My seed provider said he had a dozen people ask for switch seed this year, which had never happened before.
This is my first year of doing a food plot and without these videos to go by i probably wouldn't have even attempted it, so thank you very much for that, I would love for you guys to make a video on extreme weather food plots..namely rain and wind
Glad to see these food plot videos coming. The repetition helps get it all straight in my mind.
Thanks again Jeff for a great informational video. As land owner, with limited equipment, trying to create high quality foodplots , your channel is #1 for me!
My first bw cover crop I mounted my seed spreader on the front of my Kubota RTV. The sprayer is in the back and I pull my cultipacker behind. I did everything at once. Now I don’t spray because crushing kills bw 99%+.
Jeff....great info again. I'll try the cultipacking BEFORE planting my brassica this year, and cultipack AFTER planting my peas, beans and oats this year. It should make it a lot easier. I'll be planting my buckwheat the first week of June tied in with a rain. Thanks again, Bob
I watch all your video's religiously lol!! I see a trend of the vast majority being Northern based. I would love to see the difference between North and south strategies as I live in North Carolina. I'm sure both regions will not support the same habitat structures to some degree. I thoroughly love the thought and the detailed planning that goes into every step and detail that goes into Whitetail Habitat growth. In NC we are not known to have tremendously big whitetail bucks other than the rare occasion. Maybe if I have not already missed it a video which overlooks picking your whitetail strategy for your land based on your property. I find that this is a very situational strategy seeing how diverse land can be. There are no other content creators as detailed and as informed as yourself for the southeast or south. Thank you for all you do!!
would mowing after spreading buckwheat work instead of spraying?
Hi Jeff, I remember that you mentioned what setting you use for broadcasting buckwheat with your Earthway 2750 in one of your videos, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was. Thank you.
Hey Jeff heading up this weekend too spread buckwheat also adding liquid lime/calcium and fertilizer on top of seed then hopefully Mother Nature takes Ova and we see some rain love the vid as always your timing is on the money
I have been using buckwheat for a few years. I think it would grow on the hood of your truck if you don’t drive to fast! Lol. Great starter crop for deer food plors
Jeff (or anyone else here)..........how long after spraying Gly+2-4Db should one wait before spreading the Buckwheat. I sprayed 5/15 and was hoping to plant this weekend. Did a G-search and didn't come up with anything specific to BW. Thanks y'all.
Most of the time, 2,4-D breaks down in soil so that half of the original amount is gone in 1-14 days. This breakdown time is called the "half-life" of the pesticide. One form of 2,4-D, the butoxyethyl ester, had a much longer half-life in aquatic sediment of 186 days.
So if im understanding this right, when fall plot planting comes you can seed the standing buckwheat, then knock it down and spray it? Will the herbicide harm the buckwheat seed? Glyphosate for herbicide? Looking to try this this year.
I am doing this for the first time this year we plan on a buckwheat/ Winter rye rotation . We have 3 spots sprayed and ready for buckwheat. I only have the earthway 2750 hand spreader. What settings for the buckwheat and Rye?
Also what are the requirements for lime and fertilizer in this rotation application, and what settings for the 2750 spreader for this part of the process?
I was told that the fertilizer has to be put down right before a rain or tilled in. Is this true?
HI Ron! Definitely fertilize prior to rain, and you will need a soil test to tell you how much lime or fertilizer.
The setting for 200#s of rye is fully open. For buckwheat about 2.5 to 3 but that is just guessing.
Thank You
You are very welcome Greg!
Jef, I sprayed my first application of Gly / 2-4D 5/15/21 then hit for the 2nd time 6/5/21 looking to hit again in about 2 weeks. Then wait a few days to plant my Buck Wheat. My Question is some of my plots have some existing thatch and some parts of the plots have bare soil, can I broadcast the buckwheat into the thatch and run my cltipacker over it a few times? looking to do this with rain in the immediate forecast.
Thanks Jeff for all you provide us with!
Rgr Dgr Jeff!! Like many here I'm doing many of my plots in this recipe this year and getting the other plots ready to do it next year (gonna try and cheat and do them year but most are terrible weeds and grasses that I killed in late Apr) not sure I can get the buckwheat seed to soil thru the just dead thatch. - I'm gonna try with the help of a harrow thou - it'll save me a year getting the plots into the 1/2 1/2 stage.
Thanks Jeff👍 Great content as always! Have a great day all!
Thanks Mike, you too!!
Two questions:
1.can you seed crimson clover with the buckwheat, using the buckwheat as a nurse crop and give the clover a chance to head a head start for the fall?
2. Can you spread lime after spreading buckwheat seed? Or do you work above the lime caking and preventing the buckwheat from germinating.
Thanks
Hi Jeff, do you notice any effect on germination and growth of the rye when seeded into a rolled buckwheat cover? Buckwheat is one of those plants that releases chemicals in the ground to stop other plants from germinating. It's why it's usually such a clean crop, but I always read that you have to destroy it one month before seeding to allow that chemical to stop having effect.
I'd like to try this in organic farming and buckwheat seems to die easily when rolled without glypho, so seed buckwheat after the summer crop and roll it in the autumn while spraying seed into it (wheat).
Inversely it also seems possible from you video to seed buckwheat as a cash crop into rolled rye.
The difficulty in organic farming is that we have no chemical backup, the cover crops need to be absolutely clean.
Love these videos Jeff. Best time of the year.
I am converting a couple plots from tilled to no till. One is a clay type soil that gets a hard crust on top. Both plots were overseeded in septmber with winter rye. Which is about knee high know. I live in northwestern minnesota. If i spray it now with glyphosate. And over seed them with buckwheat ,will it grow on harder clay soil. The other plot has a better topsoil ,so not worried so much about that one.
Is there an alternative to a cultipacker? I cannot afford a cultipacker so would a lawn roller work?
Hi Mike! Yes, a lawn roller works for sure for buckwheat...
Jeff, one more quick thing. I've done your ultimate no-till process for a number of years as I said in the previous comment. My question is what are your thoughts on me no till planting my beans and winter peas through the buckwheat. ... I now have a no-till planter. Thanks again
Second-year I've tried the no-till buckwheat. I have doves, crows, and turkey eating all the seed.
I had the same problem (had a flock of 23 turkeys in spring 2019 that wiped out most of my seeds in a 2 acre plot). In 2020, I had to do a light discing after broadcasting to get some to be around long enough to germinate.
Same. I had to light disc, seed then cultipack. They still got probably 30% of the seed. I watched Turkeys pluck seedlings out too. Grr....
Cant wait to watch but at work now ...love these ones.
I feel like in the past you sprayed GLY and seeded buckwheat at same time ? Is separating it out a week or so a better idea ??
Jeff, an idea I have for a video is could you suggest the earthway spreader settings you use for the different crop blends? I picked up on 1.3 for the brassicas you use in another video. Buckwheat, brassicas, rye, etc. I know there are some settings on the sticker on the bottom part of the unit but it doesn’t cover everything we may be using for our plots. I’m new to using one and with your expertise I could save time and money instead of using the “guess and check” method. Thanks a ton for all your content! You are the man!
Cody
I'm in Wyoming, doing this for the first time this year too. Btw, thanks for the refresher. My soil test requires that I fertilize my sandy soil for my winter rye grain. I'm wondering if I need to fertilize the same for the buckwheat smother crop.
what if birds eat the seeds or seeds couldn't reach the soil well?
Jeff you going over brassicas a second time with packer max even though you’re crushing it beforehand this time?
Are you doing any classes in Kentucky next year by chance.. I'd love to attend God bless
Hi Jon, no I wish I could! I will have a habitat day here at my house on Father's day...lots of stuff going on with that!! Only open to 50 people at a cost of $200 per ticket. Kids are free. Will have more details very soon but all proceeds go to the Camp Kicking Bear charity for kids.
Do they have switch grass which is perennial.I’m going to do the buckwheat next year.
Hi Jeff it was great having you on Tuesday. I'm going to plant my plots in one 3rd corn and the other two 3rds in buckwheat . Then seed rye in one third and whs blend in the other third in August. Sound about right?
Jeff,
Can you broadcast buckwheat into standing waste ground then roll the existing grasses over it and spray like you would broadcasting into the buckwheat for fall plots?
Great content once again Jeff. Thank you. Could you possibly give the model numbers or descriptions of your sprayer setup that you have mounted in your Kubota? That would be the perfect setup for my operation. Thanks again.
Jeff, thank you for all of the information. One question at the end of this. Almost done reading your design book and food plot book is on the way. Waiting for seeds to come in. Your books are incredibly dense with info as are your videos. Those watching to learn would do well to watch and read while taking notes. My question is can you post a chart of earthway settings for seeds and coverage etc? Thanks again.
Hey Jeff! What setting on my earthway should I run for throwing down the buckwheat- this is my first year trying it. Excited to see how it goes!
Following, I would also like to find a good starting point on my seeder. Hoping to get it spread this afternoon ahead of an incoming rain expected tonight..
Did you have good success planting your brassica after smashing the buckwheat down? Walking through the standing buckwheat can be challenging. Plus, I had high winds just prior to planting so 1/2 was already partially down.
Hello! This is our first year doing a food plot and we just purchased several bags of the WHS forage blend and winter rye from Northwoods Whitetails. We are currently working to clear our food plot area of brush by manual clearing and glyphosate and are getting a late start so we won’t have time to plant buckwheat this year. When it comes time to broadcast our seed for fall planting would you recommend using straw in place of buckwheat to protect the seeds or just broadcast over the bare dirt? We are doing 0.5 to 1 acre food plot. Thanks for all you do! My wife and I both hunt and are big fans!
Jeff, couldn’t you leave the rye standing until end of summer, then put your fall food plot seed down, spray and crimp, and skip the buckwheat?
Hello Jeff, thanks again for another great video and taking the time to explain things, the science & logic behind this method. Really appreciate what u put into these videos & the knowledge to b gained!
This will b our first year trying this out with Buckwheat. Checking to see what prices are in your area? I thought I remembered you mentioning Buckwheat being very affordable/reasonable. I was a little surprised at my local farm elevator here in Central Michigan at $49 per 50pd bag? They've always been very reasonable on everything else, but this seems pricey to me. Just checking to see if this is the going rate these days, thanks!
Winter rye, spray,smash plant buckwheat in June. When do u kill the buckwheat and what seed did you use?
What if you can’t get there to 2nd or 3rd plant? Example , here in ark we have prepped and plant first August before a rain with last shot of glyp and plot boost / start etc and then we will do the grain and clover layer around Labor Day and maybe closer to oct if can. Usually get ES Broadside or mix with all of it so if you can’t do it in multiple plantings what would you do??
I have followed your Rye-Buckwheat-Summer crop method for two years, but I have very sandy soil (located in the Sandhill area of South Carolina) with poor CEC numbers, so my soil tests (done BEFORE each crop planting) tell me each time that I have to add potassium, phosphorous, calcium and magnesium. Although it does not smash down like buckwheat, what about using sunn hemp as my cover crop between the Winter rye and my iron clay cowpeas/lablab crop to help bring up those minerals from deeper in my soil? This is from Hancock Seed Company website: "Sunn hemp is a tropical legume whose claim to fame is that, 60 days from planting, it is typically over six feet tall, adds 120 pounds of Nitrogen to the soil, 10 pounds of residual Phosphorus and 80 pounds of residual Potash transfers from the subsoil to the topsoil, supplies four tons of organic matter, is a great soil builder, as well as increasing drought tolerance and yield and cash value of the next crop. During its first 60 days, sunn hemp mines 38 lbs. of Calcium, 20 lbs. of Sulfur, and 40 lbs. of Magnesium to the surface soil. It also brings up trace nutrients that are necessary for plant growth"
Jeff, thanks for putting out some great content! Quick question.. what’s the smallest plot size you would recommend planting your half and half method of brassicas on one side and peas oats rye on the other? 1/2 acre, 1/4 acre?? Thanks!
Hi Peter! That really depends on how many other food plots you have and overall acreage of plots you have based on a history of factors.
I've gone down to as low as a 1/5 of an acre or slightly less, but that was with the full support of larger, nearby holding plots.
Jeff you made a quick mention in this video that the two halves of your plots are planted "about 4-5 weeks apart" - could you briefly expand? Does the peas / oats half go on first (date?) or does the brassica half go on first (I'm generally aware of early August timeframe....but base more on a good forecast for rain). Thanks in advance - tyler
Used this method last year. Great weed control followed by peas and oats. Deer forged all winter long into this spring. Noticed some bedding alongside. Getting ready to spread buckwheat soon. Question, will switchgrasss get established if I spread it in the buckwheat using the same process for the peas and oats or brasicas?
last fall we did half brassicas and half rye and peas. We are in Kansas 1 acre plot. the rye is 8" tall we are wanting to spread in buckwheat. Do we spread buckwheat then roll the rye and spray glyphosate? this is early May
In the 2020 Ultimate No Till Food Plot Prep video at 1:59 you say " ... spray, then till ..." when this was to be a No-Till plot. I'm confused. Did I miss something? I'm referring back to 2020 because that's where I started using your Ultimate No-Till method -- until the weather didn't cooperate here in northwestern Minnesota and socked us with serious drought. I've created a 2 acre food plot 2636 feet long by 30 feet wide following the contours of the land, with several half acre plots branching off of it, over semi-wooded 160 acres, adjacent to two decent wetlands and adjoining a 600 acre habitat of a neighbor's; with huge farm fields on the other three sides. Should be a good spot if I can incorporate your videos. I've recommended your website to several of my friends and family. Please advise.
Seems you are committed to the no till / no drill practice. You mention you were putting in some NWSG for access concealment. Are you doing this planting with no till / no drill too? My plantings are all no till / no drill. But I have forgone swtichgrass because I do not have access to a drill. How are you doing it?
Jeff can I lightly disc instead of cultipacking after seeding into buckwheat
What setting on your spreader do you use for Buckwheat and Brassica.
Thanks for the Awesome knowledge you share.
Love buckwheat!
Jeff, my rye is very tall, i didn't get it sprayed so now it's almost going to seed.. I'm 2 weeks out on planting my buckwheat. What should I do to kill the rye? Just spray it now w gly. And then seed the buckwheat into it come mid June? Or should I spray and crimp it as well, I'm just afraid that'll cause me to have to thick of thatch that my buckwheat won't make soil contact. I'm in north central w.v. Thanks
Rain can be sparse here in June and July. Does it take much rain to grow Buckwheat throughout the summer?
hi first year to try buckweat did ok waited 7 weaks planted now the only seed coming up is buckweat i sprayed used my packer max but buck weat is reseeding what di i do or not do
Great video. Thank you, Jeff! I had tremendous success using your strategies last year, so I’m doubling down this year.
Sorry if I missed this, but what’s your recommended LBS per acre for the buck wheat? Do you like to fertilize the buck wheat? Are you planning on planting that strip of switch this spring?
Jeff, quick question. I've been doing the buckwheat thing for a number of years.... This year I have a unusual situation though. I've always normally planted my buckwheat somewhere between June 3rd and 5th and have had great results to have everything ready for first week of August annual plots. However this year I will be out of town working and have two choices. Plant my buckwheat this coming Saturday or Sunday.... The 29th or 30th of May. Or wait until the weekend of June 12th. Which I think is probably a little late. What do you think and which dates would you choose. Thanks for your help Jeff I greatly appreciate it.
Sir, spraying a plot like in this video with all the trees doesn't negatively impact the trees?
Thanks
Joe
No, it does not. Would have to blow up and hit the leaves with Spray. Glyphosate is neutralized by soil contact so it cant transfer thru the soil
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thanks so much. I just bought 35 acres and it has a meadow just like this video. Was trying to decide if wanted to plant around trees or not.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751If you perform a simple google search of "glyphosate in urine" you will see that CLEARLY it is not neutralized by soil contact since it ends up in human bodies. You lie here. And people die of cancer after you spray this crap. You have blood on your hands sir.
What is the setting on the Earthway spreader for buckwheat?
Jeff - are there any specific Fall plantings that you DON’T recommend for the No Till process? Allan - Oklahoma
If you plant a field of brassicas in the fall, when do you plant the rye? 5 weeks later?
Hey Jeff,
I am following your buckwheat system this year.
I have a question....can you broadcast SWITCHGRASS into the buckwheat, crush it and spray for a stand of SWITCHGRASS next year??
I do not have stratified seed.
If you only had half acre using this method what would you plant? Thanks
I’ve heard in another video of yours you planted radish then later rye with it. So half brassicas and half radish then later add rye with the radish side. Will that be ok or did I miss hear that?
Great job as always.
Should I spray Plotstart now or
When I plant the peas. Beans. Oats. And brassicas.
Thanks again
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Just spray at or before planting, and PlotStart will instantly begin improving the growing environment for your planting!
I was watching this, great info btw. I have a question. I want to plant plots in my field this year but there are a few decent-sized areas of thorny bramble. Would I affect my buckwheat plant this summer if I use a weed killer with Triclopyr in it to kill the weeds and bramble?
Hey Jeff! I'm a huge fan ! So my standing Rye ! Should I Roll ,
spray , or what before adding Buckwheat? And what order ? I do have a packermaxx.
I recently tried my first attempt of buck wheat down here in oklahoma. I am hesitant it will make it through the summer but i love your concept. Have you had an experience this concept down here? Anything different i need to do down here with buckwheat?
How many pounds of buckwheat per acre?
Link to food plot seed provider????
northwoodswhitetails.com/
Jeff, how far ahead of time can you buy food plot or switchgrass seed and what’s the best way to store it?
Can you spray the plot and seed buck wheat at the same time?
Buckwheat prices are climbing. Gee, I wonder why.
How many pounds of buckwheat per acre for this blend?
Hi Jake! 50#s per acre...
Thanks for another awesome video !
If I don’t have the funds this year to buy a packer max could I just spread rye and brassica on bare soil when it’s time to plant instead of doing buckwheat this year
Do you have an ATV you could run over it? Takes a lot of passes, but it works similar to a cultipacker. An alternative to that is to use a chain harrow or drag harrow or drag mat. Depending on size and construction, you can get a Yard Tuff one as cheap as $110 at Tractor Supply. Add some weight on top of it for a little better effect.
Hey Jeff! trying the ultimate no-till plan this year for first time. I'm in NY and planted my buckwheat 2 weeks ago. I am just doing this on 1/4 acre as i have another 1/4 acre clover plot next to it. I checked the plot yesterday and my buckwheat is about 5-6 inches high. I did notice some new weed competition mixed in like milkweed and ragweed for example. will the buckwheat shade all that out enough? How would you proceed? thanks!
Jeff, any plans to use the packermaxx crimper?
Yes definitely!! Not for the buckwheat tho. Going to plant corn with it...maybe some beans.
Jeff, what do you think about over seed with wr and ww over your brassica 4wks later, I like to have food for the deer in march, will that stunt the brassica to much, I'm in ny. Thank you
Jeff, Have you heard of Sunburst Switchgrass? Would this be good for the central Michigan area? I'm having a hard time finding good switchgrass seed in stock and I was hoping to get it in soon.
Hi Torey I have! I've seen it side by side in WI and OH. Different color than Cave In Rock...similar height. Seemed like a decent alternative to CIR. I know John Komp had some yesterday...likely gone today? Not sure tho...
www.northwoodswhitetails.com
Hi Jeff. Not finding a cereal grain mix on Northwoods site. Is that coming or perhaps under a different name?
How do you get the Buckwheat to lay down so nice? Mine tended to spring up last year... Thanks
Hi Dan! I always find it crushes so well...ATV tires and Packermaxx. I then spray it with glyphosate to keep it down at the same time
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I see that in all of your videos, I do have an ATV and a Packermaxx also, guess we will see what happens this year. Thank You so much for all the info! This is the only place I go for my food plot knowledge.