Metal Hellsinger - Soaring Praise and "Measured" Criticism (REVIEW)
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
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"uhhh , I listened to the band "Metallica" once, and they're cool 🤓🤓🤓"
Immediately picked that up and started laughing my ass off. Good one.
"Even if you really like the music here, I don't know if you are going to want to hear one song on a loop for half an hour"
*Looks at my steam library and sees that I have 10 hours spent on the 15 minute demo... I'm guessing that won't be a problem for me.
How
@@sillyfella2009 By playing it a lot.
yeah i got to like 3 hours lol, stygia is such a banger
Can confirm so far that score/leaderboard grinding is currently very enjoyable. Especially for the higher difficulties/later levels since things get so extremely chaotic. Won't go too in depth here but MANY positive changes from the demo have been made.
As a big metalhead myself, this is absolutely one of my most anticipated games of this year. Great stuff, Mayo.
I didn't realize this was out. I enjoy a lot of the bands with members featured on here, especially Trivium (my favorite band), so I'm excited to hear Matt Heafy's involvement. Guess I need to pick this up.
It first releases the 15 :/
".... I'm not a metal guy myself..."
That bait dude, lmfao!
I was so confused for a second I almost took it lmao
It's was a joke
@@tarman2752 I fell for it. Was literally starting to fume and be like why would you even review this game if you don't like metal
@@flynntaggart7216 seems like you can't read
The OP knew that. That's why they used the word "bait".
@@theblobconsumes4859 no need to get angry that fast
"I dont know that you would wanna hear same song on a loop for half an hour"
Bro, if I like some song, I listen to it on a loop for day, often more days. So that isnt an issue at all for many of us.
Good review man
Thanks. I've seen your name on the leader boards!
Did Mayo just say he likes White Zombie and Slipknot? I already had a lot of respect for him (largely due to his no-bullshit attitude), and discovering his musical tastes includes these bands has only enhanced this!🤘🎸
Nine Inch Nails is like his favourite band
@@10_MILES_HIGH_ judging by your username it's yours too ;)
@@underthemayo yeah lmao
Expanding red circuit production while waiting for Factorio: The other Anti-Doom
This looks like a blast to play! Currently replaying MGSV and told myself I wouldn't play anything else until finishing it. Gotta add this game to my ever growing game queue!
Found out this game has a really good demo, and playing it I really struggled with focusing on everything with the need of keeping on the beat, it's really overwhelming but I was able to slowly get better and better and was able to start somewhat focusing on the fights while keeping beat. But it should seriously be warned that this isn't a game to sit back on, it needs 100% of your attention, even eternal let's you be somewhat lax in the fights. But it really is hell for having ADHD, a fun hell though.
Now if we can mod "Bury the Light" into this game it would be rad.
Mod the sword so player uses the Yamato
Zzzzz
No I NEED this I NEED it
On the topic of game profiles
Steam has a "share with family" feature, the game will save their progress to their steam account
This essentially means any steam game has a profile system. Requires tinkering, not ideal, but better than nothing
Very excited for this release, I've been counting down the days. I also love that little jab with the "I listened to Metallica once" line
This is my first watch of any of your videos. I heard the Metallica part and almost lost my cool, my brain spouting off with "this typical millennial mother..." "Oh thank God." 😂😂😂. Subbed for the sense of humor.
I am really hoping they took feedback on board for the demo
Maybe a review on scorn its interesting game
He may not like it but he does like re2 remake so he may !
I'm looking forward to that coming to Game Pass next month 👍. Not sure if I'd have bought it straight up at launch, but I'm absolutely going to be giving it a good go when it launches 👍
@@donogoodatgames really hyped for SCORN hopefully they will keep their word and Oct 21 really is the release date.
Was there anything new shown about it's gameplay structure? If not then yeah that game most likely suck.
Yes, Scorn includes shooting. but the game is decidedly NOT a shooter
I really loved how the Skull, Paz, was incorporated as a Fury/Hit-Streak enabler
Not only is he the only weapon that can maintain and generate Fury without having to actually hit anything, but since his damage is so low he allows you to reach higher Hit-Streaks off of only a few enemies
I think it's really cool how the developers designed a weapon that so naturally bolsters the musical "Flow" mechanics of the game, at the cost of combat pressure and damage output
If the game is getting an updated, multiple things I would like to be added;
In the demo, whatever is done on the beat your weapons glow and was really enjoyable to see that because it's not in the Release.
More music and some collabs.
More Arsenals
It would be cool to see and hear when the 16x is reached in a different tone if the music kicks quick or is starts slow ike This Devastation and This is the end.
The boss theme songs are cool and I love how each has a different style when at the second stage but I do think that other boss fights should have their own styles rather reusing the other.
When you use the sword's power, when go to different levels you should have that the music links with a part of the lyrics just like stygia.
The game is great and fast pace depending on how you act and how well your at the beat and enjoyable and even if it's a doom style game it shouldn't need secrets like IGN wants and doesn't need to feel like BPM which is good but isn't a metal game.
Have you played the gloomwood early access yet?
I haven't cause the demo didn't really do it for me.
The game is coming to PC and Xbox game pass on September 15. No reason not to try it then if you are a subscriber
Thanks Under The Mayo, I was on the fence about this game until you said it's one of your favorite games of the year.
Now I can be sure it's shit.
Thanks again.
real
cry harder
1:44 you did indeed have me seething, but I found that bit hilarious
Yo, I know this isn't doom, but I just got to the boss on my first playthrough, on ultra violence....and I love the marauder....how can I fight more of them...are there dlc?
They will eventualy come up in later levels they are normal demons not bosses later on.
In dlcs, especially first one you fiht a lot of them.
@@patriktomasek7364 that sword easter egg in tag 2 world spear 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@walterblanco5046 treu
A problem I have with the game that you didn't mention is how bonkers the Ghost Rounds III sigil is with the crossbow. It not only eliminates the need to use the reload function, but also the need to shoot any other gun. Why would I use the revolvers for measley 750 damage per hit when I can shoot the crossbow for 950 damage at the same speed that also staggers and deals damage in a huge AoE near impact. I don't even have to hit my shots, I just keep running and jumping while firing in 8 shot bursts before swapping off and on it again. I'm playing on hard and that thing can take out an angel in 6-7 hits. That's not even one "clip" thanks to Ghost Rounds. From what I've seen from your video, enemy HP scales with difficulty, so I don't even want to know how much this would trivialize normal or easy when this is what it does on hard. The sigil that was supposed to encourage weapon swapping only made me play lazy. I hope they rework it into something like "Emptying your primary or secondary weapon's clip reloads 33/66/100% of your other weapon's clip (rounded up)."
No lie. When you sarcastically were talking about your taste towards metal I was looking at my screen like he cannot be for real and then when You said I'm just kidding guys I was able to breathe easy. I'm more of a country listener myself but I do love me some metal ever here and there
Yeah this video was in a period where a lot of people were ready to jump on anything I said because I was critical of some beloved titles and antagonized the fanbases. So throwing in those little baiting jokes was really entertaining to me lol
@@underthemayo lol, I tried it and loved it. Sadly it was only on Game Pass for a few months on Xbox so when it went away I had to find some other way to get it getting it this Christmas
as a player of both rhythm games and shooters metal: Hellsinger really scratches both itches at once and it is *great*, thanks to playing games like taiko no tatsujin, project diva, guitar hero, ect.. listen to the same song on loop for even hours never really bothers me personally, definitely gonna get into climbing the leaderboards as well as i can in this game for sure.
I'm the kinda guy who keeps one song for 6 days 6 hours and 6 minutes on repeat. Some might call me a "repeat offender." For me this game is all about finding the flow to make sick beats with the weapons you have. It reminds of the rebellious chaos of thumper and just trying to fight the game with what I can create musically and this fits antibodies Doom thumper dream. Love your outlooks and perspectives, it helps me talk about it to others who are trying to get into metal and who like Vidya games.
Then mod support came out to stop mayo criticism about listening to the same song for an hour xD
I want to tell a little story here.
I'm not a metalhead, I like metal but I am a musician with my father so I was really interested in this game. It came out, I played it and I enjoyed the hell out of it. Still play it.
(my family is really religious so I needed to hide this game, their reaction could be rather extreme. Trust me :|)
Then I was playing at night, headphones and all so no one should hear this. And I forgot my father was home, fuck me. I stopped dead but he just sit down on a couch and asked me what I was playing. I noticed after a moment that my old man (who was a organist btw) stared slight headbaning. Did I went mad? I didn't. After an hour or something he just went away like nothing happened. I couldn't be more confused at the moment.
And then I saw him on the next night when I came back home after a party. Playing the hell out of it, wearing headphones, headbaning and getting higher scores than me and playing flawlessly. Just having fun.
Man who grew up on classic and religious music have a fun of his life on metal driven game about killing demons in hell. After that we were talking about it, dissecting the songs, how it was implemented into gameplay.
I think I broke my old man. Please everyone, send help 🤣
this is my first video of this guy and i already love him
I recommend the resident evil videos!
Nice video, not your fault but all the "hot takes" on your video in this comment section is giving me a brain hemorrhage from how willfully ignorant, or just plain dumb some people can be. They make up stuff, remove context, put words in your mouth you don't say or clearly watch with their brains turned off. It's like console fanboy levels of mental incompetentence. Again, not your fault, these are your experiences with the game just some of these comments are insufferable. Keep up the good work.
I would be in love with this game if the music selection was different. It fits the vibe very well for the game as is, but it's just not for me. Gameplay does however impress and I hope to see a banger final product.
I'm feeling the same way. I actually like metal, not just the modern kind that this game has. I've played the game called Distance, its an action driving game and it actually lets you drop mp3 files into the folder and the neon lights of the track flash with the beat of the music. I would love to see something similar done but with the style of this game. Altho I guess you cant then do any high score stuff because the rhythm varies when everybody can choose their own music, might be kinda hard to balance as well.
@@Niczu. That's a good point about the balance of adding/modding custom tracks into the game. No idea how you would go about doing so, but it would be fun.
The music is incredible and the gameplay looks fun and snappy. But my issue is the boring enemy design and the production quality for things such as cutscenes isn’t really the greatest.
I think the load out option Is a bit Pointless, there's 6 weapons and you keep 4 for a level, so I don't really think it's necessary
Solid review! Hitting highs and lows in a balanced way.
you definetly got me at the "i listen to this metallica band " i was laughing my ass off
"I don't know if you are going to want to hear one song on a loop for half an hour"
Me, who often hear one hour long song loop videos to completion, then play it again: think again, buddy
I'm not really into this game but it's really nice seeing one of my favorite bands, Jinjer in a video game.
Wonderful video! Gonna try this game for myself when it fully releases
Good criticisms, and I hope the Devs take them onboard, as they don't sound a lot to ask for. Especially multiple save slots. Definitely going to be checking this one out.
I played the demo just recently. I was loving it till the boss fight. I just can't do it. Fodder enemies spawning in while you fight the boss is straight up lazy design. It's just making something artificially more difficult without actually challenging the player.
Great and detailed review as always.
And may I suggest a request? I know that you likes fighting games and deep mechanics, so I think you may like Hellish Quart. It's a swordfighting game, akin to Bushido Blade, but way more realistic.
Thanks for the tip. I remember Bushido Blade back in the day, used to really enjoy it.
This game is gonna be awesome for me because despite the criticism and general lack of interest you had on BPM, I just checked my Steam and I have almost 20hrs in it cuz I do like it. I'll be spending a lot of time in this one.
"I just wanted to drive people who hate me into a blind rage for a moment"
You beautiful bastard
I wonder if you would like Converge. Try their album The Dusk in Us
PC mod support is confirmed for adding your own music.
To anyone complaining out there that the music doesn't sync up or "impossible to play to the beat" the game works you are just not good at multitasking
Please play through Rollerdrome and give your thought on it. I thought it was a great little game that just isn't being talked about enough
Been playing this game all day today.
Bottom line without the rhythm mechanic or the music this would be a painfully average game.
However the rhythm mechanic is so exceptionally done and even the animations such as reloading go in beat with the song(s) which is so genius.
But the thing that carries this for me is the music. I'm a huge metalhead of anykind of genre from Metallica (1980s version) all the way to even Deathlock and every guitar rift in between. Sure this is up to taste and personal preference. Someone who doesn't like "screamo" or even someone like Mayo who perfers specific type of heavy metal might not fully enjoy this game.
Thankfully the music hits right with me and I can easily headbang while slaying demons. I did not know I needed this type of mechanic in my doom games but now I want a lot more of this. 10/10 for me.
So is the whole game at the same timing and tempo?
There is temporary variation but it's not large. I noticed some faster tempos in some boss fights, and the final level has probably the slowest song.
@@underthemayo ah disappointing, I would have probably liked this id they mixed it up, like I found the demo very basic but I was hoping it was because it was the first level and that the game would make the rhythm aspect more complex.
For me at least, I enjoy replaying levels here and there. The hard mode didn’t really feel hard, it just felt like a slog. Enemies felt too spongy and that slowed down the experience.
I’d like to tackle the other aspects of hard mode without the spongy enemies.
I'm just waiting for the regional pricing on this game. Hopefully it's not jacked up as every other game nowadays ex ff 7, cod mw 2 remastered, midnight suns and what not. There regional pricing is just crazy.
Reminds me of the sulfer/supper gore nest mashup if you’ve never given it a listen
I disliked that your shots are to the metronome rather than accents in the music - I think this is what makes the game most boring and dare I say brain dead. Like it would have been amazing to use pistols with the drums snares, and shotgun to the drums bass kick, and using an ultimate just as a massive power chord is about to hit. Although this game is based on shooting to the beat, their approach to the concept is very linear and boring, which makes listening to the same song over and over again boring - think about guitar hero; we played the same songs hundreds of times (before they were ruined for us of course), but because you felt like you were doing something meaningful that actually matched what you were hearing, it was enjoyable. Playing to a metronome instead of these songs could arguably be equally entertaining, which is sad to say.
I get where you're coming from. A lot of that is why I think it's really just a one playthrough kinda game for me. I still think it's really good. And I'd like to see more of what you're talking about in a follow up. For a first attempt at this, and having smart player incentives behind it, I think it's a damn good try.
@@underthemayo your review among many others have said it’s a one playthrough kind of game, so I’m playing hardest difficulty right off the bat. It’s pretty damn hard to keep your multiplier up and I’ve found the change in music so frequent that it’s distracting and annoying. Hopefully I find a good rhythm and enjoy the experience overall.
But yeah, I’d also like to see their second iteration of the game - not a bad start at all.
I really don't agree with the sentiment "brain-dead" gameplay. Sword's Ultimate does exactly what you are describing - you want more of that?. Anyways, the music tries to create an experience. 3rd to last level goes from screams to clean vocals and ominous synths - it's a curated play. However, the best way to solve replayability is to add more enemies and weak points, plus some randomisation and levels with new songs
@@antont4974 Sorry but no, the sword ultimate does not do that, it just doubles the bpm so you can just press buttons as fast as you can without making any errors. And the music is not my problem, the inputs to the music is my problem, but clearly you don’t play music to understand my point, so I don’t blame you for not understanding.
Well tbf you can play the way you described, there's just no in-game incentive to do so, its just style points. The main problem i see with making you play to the accents like that is you can't know when those accents or transition moments are gonna come as a first time player/listener. It would also slow down the pace of the game significantly since those moments are gonna be more spread out.
I do think they definitely couldve done more with the rhythmic aspect though. Let us get perfect hits at the 16th or 32nd note level, make triplets a thing, stuff like that. Anything so it's not just literally 8th notes the entire time would be nice. All in all still a pretty banger game for me personally tho.
Can’t. Type. Blind. Rage. Ha great video.
Picked it up last night, excited to try it!
Finally the game is out. And it's a masterpiece.
Everything's a masterpiece
@@luciusdebeers6176 I only got a 7/10 though
Listening to 1 song for 30 minutes on a loop is a bonus!
I often play just 1 song on a loop for weeks on end before going to the next and looping that one
So definitely a bonus for me!
You should do a review on total chaos
The one criticism I have is how shit the shotgun for me. It keeps throwing me off with the pump and reload.
Would you cover beyond sunset?
I suppose. I don't know it.
@@underthemayo It's just a great demo just now, but as I noticed (like with turbo overkill), you play demo and provide some constructive criticism and it may lead to better product. I don't want to command you, but I think it would be worthwhile covering it
there is one thing i really love about your „review“.
you split your personal feelings from objectiv topics.
so i know..ah that is what you like and that is what is just good and you think everyone should like and the opposite
sorry for my bad english
Good stuff. I amid, the sound music mix game play is not working for me. But the game design and playstyle is something else./ Creative to say the least !
Git gud ears
When I heard Lamb of God on this game my neck started to hurt.
So you can share it with friends.
:) Right!
And family.
:O eh?
Tomorrow literally can't come soon enough
Been loving the game so far. Today I got discouraged tho. On Icaustus hell I think it's called?? I was fighting the boss. Killed all the spawns and waited for the boss to reappear.... but it didn't. It stayed above the statue in the middle in its little blurry form where you can't hit it. I circled the map for a solid 5 minutes making sure no enemies had randomly got stuck fallen off the map. Double jumped and checked behind the locked doorways to see if something got stuck there. Nothing. Jumped off a bunch of times to kill myself, swapped weapons, etc. Tried everything I could think of and it was just in an unplayable state. All I could do was walk around. I couldn't bring myself to go back through the whole level again so I turned it off...
Anyone else have this happen????
This game would be screwed with a meshuggah riff as there polyrhythm’s lolol
I was just listening the songs, good timing to upload the video
Well I can tell I'm gonna be awful at this game but at least I can listen to the songs on the menu, hopefully we can just get a setting without the rhythm thing locking out vocals but it's alright lol
He’s heard Metallica before; based
The biggest tragedy is that there’s no official ost release yet, just shitty game rips. Come on put that stuff out there
Thanks good review. I like the honesty and I am definitly going to pick this up asap!
Video 1 of asking for Mayo to play serious Sam
I personally feel like traditional heavy metal would have been a better fit for this game
Honestly, this was a very fair and well done review of a game. Lots of great criticisms and takes that I also agree with.
Mayo LARPing as a boomer is so perfect. Bruh you didn't need to do that. You're just trolling lmaooo. I fell for it at first ngl.
Imagining the reaction from some people was the best part of making this video.
If you had used AC/DC as an example… 🤯
Metal hell singer is on game pass too
I love Doom, Quake, Shadow Warrior and the rest of all the retro boomer shooter, they're basically the only kind of fps worth playing. I've played Metal Hellsinger at this years GamesCom and this just doesn't work for me at all. None of us had anyting good about it to say, not the metalheads, not the guy who plays rhythm games on a daily basis and not the fps fans. Just buy Doom Eternal or Shadow Warrior, they're on sale by now, you're doing yourself a favour. Metal Hellsinger hinders itself with mix of fps and rhythm game, since you can't get in the rhythm of a fps game, plus it's a rhythm game with only metal music,...metal has no such thing, at least not the song/songs in the demo. There most of the time "perfect" popped up, so apparently I did the right thing, I just don't know why, since I did not find any rhythm in the two demo levels at all I should act on.
The style also seems like to be discount Doom or Brütal Legend, the album cover approach. The multiplier isn't noticeable either and you can pick up something for the vocals. If you want a game where the music reacts on how good you play, just play DMC5, it's excellent, there this works a million times better and it's on sale as well. You actually should have it in your library already...
This is just based on the demo and my opinion of it, plus all the people I've spoken to who also played it, so make what you want of it...
Yea this was pretty accurate
This game is fucking awesome
You called the protagonist a "her" I thought it was a dude demon with thicc thighs lmao
lol that metalica bit had me loling 😂💕
Kangaroo Jumper, The Game
since i saw ur ultrakill review, i really doubt everthing you say and i dont know what is true.
I knew you were trolling the second u said u don't listen to metal lmao
Slipknot fan👀
Gotta pick this up. Thanks for an amazing review Mayo
Nah I can’t be bothered to focus on the beat on top of doom eternal combat. The sound already drowns out the music and it’s already difficult enough to focus on both. I already dislike being told how to play a game and this is the ultimate version of that
Positive comment
"The lack of visual variety is justifiable because the game is set in hell"
That's a stupid argument. You can make the game... not take place in hell, even if you ignore that you can make hell look like pretty much whatever you want.
I don’t hate you. Never have.
But you did have me going with your Metallica comments. I literally almost texted me friend “can you believe this fucking guy!?”
Got me good.
Mayo - "I don't know if you're gonna want to hear a song on a loop for a half an hour"
Me who listens to one song for weeks in a row no break - 😬
Fun game horrible mechanic
It's no Ultrakill, but it's alright.
Gameplay looks fun, but the music is a deal breaker for me. Not because it’s metal. It’s the type of metal. I find all of these bands cheesy.. Way more into brutal death metal/grindcore (Abominable Putridity, Soreption, Pig Destroyer, etc)
The type of metal featured in this game is way to emo and nerdy.
That’s just my opinion and I understand other ppl love this music and good for them! Not knocking it, everyone has a different taste and if I really want those type of bands I suppose I should make my own game lol
The game really feels like somethin across your Metallica lines lol. Normie metal for people that usually don't listen to metal. And it's a time waste roguelike so it's automatically a no-buy even if the gameplay wasn't a repetitive and limited snorefest.
I don't think it's a rogue like
i was going to complain about calling the agonist normie metal, but you called a non-turn based, non-grid based, non RPG game a roguelike so i can understand the gatekeeper feel
Amazing
Every word of what you just said
Is wrong
it isn't a roguelike
Bro do for scp secret files bro