Who Is the Kemper Profiler Player For?
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Kemper just released their smallest footprint profiler yet - the Kemper Profiler Player. But who is this device really for? Lets dive into!
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Are you going to pick up a Kemper Profiler Player? What amp are you going to use first?
Who is this for?
Me. It's for me.
Just bought a guitar and don't have ANY guitar gear other than the guitar (and the Kemper player now).
Not needing to buy anything else or lug amps around = PEACEFUL LIFE.
- Built in tuner
- Interface
- Can send stereo signal AND a balanced DI simultaneously
- 50 presets
- 21.000+ rigs built in
- The tuner also mutes (or not, your choice)
- Can be in the FX loop or before amp
- Full control from iPhone/iPad
- Can stream bluetooth and jam on top of it
Only thing missing now is for them to enable the double-button presses to get 5 commands instead of 3.
And for the unit to give some sort of error when you attempt to connect to WiFi and you typed the wrong password. That took me a frustrating minute to figure out.
It's for lots of people, but it's not for you
… if you have to ask…
Exactly.
Kemper have sold thousands already and that's two weeks before NAMM.
They'll sell a thousand of them in a month or two and then you'll know who it's for.
Its for thousands of guitarists who want Kemper tone, they don't want to make Profiles, but haven't been able to afford one of the bigger Kempers, and now they van afford this.
Or many guitarists who use Kempers live but also like to use some of their favourite pedals...no need to carry a bigger rig.
Definitely the people who want them on their pedalboards and those who don’t care to profile
For a gigging guitarist, I see the reason but for someone who mostly plays at home or records, there is neural amp modeler, that beats every modeler currently and is free...
I feel compelled to say this is an excellent video. Great points. Great delivery.
Glad you enjoyed it!
For someone who wants Kemper tones for $700. I think their profiles tend to sound better than the competition so this price point is definitely welcomed.
We wanted smaller cell phones. We got them. Now we want big ones. It’s dumb.
As a 10-year owner of the Kemper Profiler, this almost fits my use case. I have occasional gigs and practice sessions. Carrying the Kemper with a MIDI foot controller was a real problem for me. For practice sessions, I tend to use whatever amp the studio has, rather than hurting my back. This will even fit in my fly gig bag. The only downside is the number of effects slots, which are 2 before the amp section and 2 after it. The compressor, the drive, the EQ, and an occasional wah are generally in my signal chain. Therefore, I may need some of those in pedal form.
Couldn’t agree more. The carrying the Footswitch with my Axe Fx is a big reason I don’t gig with it more often.
The only downsides are the 4 effects and not effects loop. Which to your point can be solved with other pedals
@@ryansnydercg I'm completely okay with getting more pedals. I even tried to design my own MIDI foot controller that fits into a Mono Tick accessory case :) ruclips.net/video/ULjAJ9_4Nc4/видео.html
@ersinbasaran dude that is absolutely sick
@@ryansnydercg I received my Kemper Profiler a few days ago and had the chance to use it during our rehearsal last night. Since I couldn't find the USB cable, I adjusted some of the factory presets to my preference. I must say, the experience was outstanding. It felt as though my Profiler head was right there in the studio. If they were to include all the original stompbox types in the Kemper Profiler head and eliminate the limitation of only two stompboxes before and after the amplifier, I would definitely be willing to pay more.
@ersinbasaran I think that’s been the biggest gripe about it - the limit of the two effects before and after
I received mine yesterday.
I already own a stage, but am selling it for portability purposes.
I don't need all the bells and whistles, nor do I care to profile anything (people have already done it way better than I haha).
This thing is exactly what I've wanted Kemper to make. I'm very happy.
Yea that is exactly the case in point I think its perfect for. I ordered mine as well, havent gotten it yet, but this is my first Kemper. Im curious to see how it stacks up to the Fractal and Line6
@@ryansnydercg it's a different world, I'd say.
I've owned Fractals before (Axe-FX II XL+ and FM3) and they're wonderful units. For me, I just don't need all it has to offer.
I just need a few solid profiles and some customizability for my happiness in a unit.
I'm hoping the Profiler Player directs me to that, that sounds ideal
@@ryansnydercg I hope so, too! It's a wonderful setup.
Definitely not for everyone, but not all gear is, right!?
Take care and wishing you well!
@@ryansnydercg The ideal sound doesnt exist, but we all are running to find our dream.
The only person I can realistically see this being for is someone who is already financially in Kemper profiles and wants a smaller footprint. That’s it.
No midi, no fx loop, no screen and a high price tag are dealbreakers. The HX stomp has all of that far fewer limitations on fx blocks pre/post Amp AND a lower price.
Hell for like $200 more, you can get a Fractal FM3 which will demolish this thing.
I say all of that as someone who absolutely LOVED my OG Kemper for 12 years.
Yeah I think it’s trying to undersell the FM3, but $200 more and you get a beast of a machine
Most people that own kempers don’t actually profile amps. They’ve bought or grabbed them of the rig exchange. NOW. That being said. I profiled my stealth and metaltronix amp for myself and love them. But that’s it. Just those 2. The rest were purchased. So this is a great way to get into kemper for less $$
Exactly!!
GAS is very strong on me now. But 700€? … The Kemper Stage is about 1000€ on the used market here.
But the Player‘s form factor is great.
So many choices these days. If only I practiced as much as I worry about gear...
GAS is very strong here! And spot on about practicing over worrying about gear 😂
Which would you choose this device Kemper or Helix lt? Regards
Helix for sure!
I've had the K Powerhead for a few years now (..along with a Boogie Mk4..) I've only profiled my Boogie 1-2 times,, all other profiles I use are from Rig Exchange, or purchased (STL, Cililab, MBritt to name a few..) So, having the ability to profile is nice, it's not neccessary in my case ..The Kemper Play seems like a great affordable way to go..
Yup. I'm of the mindset that there are plenty of folks out there who can profile (and have access to) amps WAY bette than I could - or would want to put in the time to learn how to...
Would this be ideal for bassists then? I just want a sansamp into an ampeg Classic
Yeah. Actually it would be ideal for bassists
im Kemper user and neural user..
if somebody think that the kemper rack is too big maybe they are not think in be a professional musician... one with 3 guitars in a show etc etc ..
The kempèr player is not for beginners because you need a computer and learn how to make your sounds... is not easy for everybody.
If somebody want a small pedal board .. maybe just a guitar 2 pedals an 2 cables and thats it.. and of course one amp..
Long time ago i think that kemper needs a small version but with your on sound, just for the peolple taht have any other version of the kemper family... if you limit my soun with 2 pre fx and 2 post effects without send and return etc etc that gear is not for the real users... of course if you have the money you can buy this but in a real environment ... why you need yto buy this if you have your kemper rack or the stage with all the power??? to reduce the space in your car?? the kemper is not a heavy gear....
in other side... the best is the QuadCortex... you have everything in small size with the best screen of the market with amazing sound.. you dont need to buy nothing with the real kemper or the QuadCortex..
If you want to reduce the size of your pedal board... thats not a real excuse because you need other pedals if you want to work or sound with the other gear...
3 buttons for 50 presets??? thats not good if you work with different artists or in a different projects..
700 dollars just for rehersals because the kemper rack or stage weight too much??? thats not good...
maybe if this plyer have 2 sen loops and you have an eventide h90... maybe i see the point of the player... and those 2 pedals are like the price of the quad cortex!!!!!
Solid point with Kemper not being that heavy.
And I agree, this would be challenging if you work with multiple bands
are the amps in the Kemper Profiler Player mono?
It can do stereo. According to the Kemper website:
“3 independently controllable output groups via XLR, Stereo Monitor, Stereo Headphone:
One ground-lifted XLR connects you directly to the FOH mixing desk at studio level, without the need for DI boxes.
Two TS jacks connect to your home studio or to one or two KEMPER Power Kabinets in full stereo.”
It does stereo effects but not stereo amps. Only one amp at a time. Tone Junkie talked about this.
OR you use a rack mounted power amp like a matrix or similar (viz a viz your Axe FX rant). But, I get your point. My Axe FX (Now III Mk2) stays in my studio, and it's great there. You forget there is the TOnex Pedal out there, which does profile, does have full MIDI, but is limited on Effects, on board (Reverb and Delay). THis will sell and STAY (as in not be on the used market in a few months) with Kemper users that no longer want to drag their big units around, and for a small niche of people wanting to go digital, for not too much, that see them able to not have to use the software much AND have wanted he Kemper tone (and plan to buy profiles).
The matrix always sounds awesome. I’ve never played with one but my SD power stage does a killer job albeit only 250 watts compared to the matrix 750+
@@ryansnydercg I also like the Orange Pedal Buddy as far as performance, tone and feel. But it is big, and isn't a rack mount.
@@justmehere6094 i havent heard of that one... i'll have to look into them!
Is it possible to run this profile player through my marshall combo amp? Basically using my combo amp to just power the speakers and let the profile player do the rest?
If your marshall has an effects loop return you can! Just plug the output from the kemper pedal into there instead of the guitar input jack
Your effects loop is definitely your friend here
I ran my headrush through my GK half stack. Sounded great but I got a lot of backlash
$650? Cheapest I see them is $698
Yea its $700, the $650 came from looking at euros lol
Kemper is always late to the game on what players want. At Sweetwater and American music, they finance line line 6 for one year or more, but Kemper's only 3 months. As cost have gone up, people need reasonable financing, Especially married people. Most won't go for a payment of over $200 for the player, much less the other Kempers which would be $700 a month. No one wants to finance one on a credit card with high interest either. I have a Fractal FM9 that I financed with a credit card. I don't want to do that again. Fractal in the best but poor marketing and not putting it on Sweetwater was a bad choice. Eventide, Line 6, and Strymon all give long finance times so people can afford to buy their product at Sweetwater. That is why Line 6 is best selling product. It is not about just being the best, but marketing is key for selling the best also. Fractal and Kemper missing the boat on sales.
I could agree more. I just upgraded my 2 XL+ to a FM9 Turbo. It blows everything I’ve played out of the water. But the marketing and lack of availability in more places definitely holds it back from taking over the market.
if a helix mini come out，That's my choice
They did. Its called the HX stomp
😂😂
What's next, a plastic toy guitar ? You could plug in a cheap $100 guitar into a profile amp, and it would sound the same as if you plugged in Jimmy Page's '59 Les Paul. A profile amp loses all the resonance, sustain, feedback, tone, or lack of such, from the hardware. It eliminates the instrument quality from the equation. So a Stratavarius violin would sound same as kid's Playskool toy violin. Nobody with a good ear will take you seriously, playing through a profiler amp. It's been described as sounding like a swarm of bees. Thats going to be at a yard sale someday for $10.
Different tools for different situations
I heard this has the same horse power as the bigger units but they dumbed down the features, eventually to appear behind a paywall
The effects loop is going to limit this guy
All of these amp modelers fit different different peoples tastes and different needs. They're all great products. Don't listen to "know it alls" like this guy...Do your own research and decide what's right for you. Unfortunately, to make this point, I had to give this guy a "view".
Yeah they are all great products and definitely do your research before you buy. And it’s always good to have different perspectives 😊
Going to disagree that the Profile Player is NOT the best thing for a new player. It's still a profile player, i.e. Amp snapshots. Amps at a particular setting. Beginner will not learn how to dial in an amp, how it reacts to eq and gain changes etc. Even with liquid profiling, Kemper still doesn't mimic these kinds of interactions well. Frankly for that new player, something like a Boss Katana, imho makes more sense. ANY of these floor models only make sense for someone Giging.
Solid point! The katana is definitely one of the best beginner amps.
The point I was trying to make - which I don’t think I made a great job of it coming across I will add - is it’s a great way to understand what makes good guitar tone (especially for a mix) if you use other folks captures
@@ryansnydercgthe katana sound like shit out of the box,and if it needs the “tone studio” or whatever they call it wtf is the point of having an actual amp
@@ryansnydercg That was one 'fault' I always had with Kemper. A LOT of people got turned off because their own made profiles sucked. Lot more to MIC'ing an amp for a good profile than people think. But, yes, most bought profiles sound GOOD. AND agree, they show how and what good tone is when an amp is dialed in right.
@@tommilitello198 Disagree. "Like shit"? No. Granted they REALLY need that speaker broken in, and imho they need a global EQ slapped on once, to put a high and low cut on it. But after that they sound like what they are. THey are the top selling amp in the world for a reason. If you don't understand what the advatages of an 'actual amp' is, then not much use going into it with you.