246: PNSO Tyrannosaurus Rex (Cameron 2023) Part 2 Plus Facial Reconstruction
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2023
- As expected, there’s just too much to say when it comes to a flagship dinosaur like Tyrannosaurus Rex, and one from PNSO to boot! In part 1 we looked at the model itself.
In part 2, we get to the comparisons and there’s going to be a lot of it!
But equally interestingly, we’ll look at the ideas behind the facial reconstructions seen in the by now famous Cullen et al 2023 paper!
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Bell PR, Campione NE, Persons WS IV, Currie PJ, Larson PL, Tanke DH, Bakker RT. Tyrannosauroid integument reveals conflicting patterns of gigantism and feather evolution. Biol Lett. 2017;13:20170092.
Carr TD. Craniofacial ontogeny in Tyrannosauridae (Dinosauria, Coelurosauria). J Vertebr Paleontol. 1999;19:497-520. doi:10.1080/02724634.1999.10011161.
Carpenter K. A closer look at the hypothesis of scavenging versus predation by Tyrannosaurus rex. In: Parrish JM, Molnar RE, Currie PJ, Koppelhus EB, editors. Tyrannosaurid Paleobiology. Indiana Univ. Press; 2013. p. 265-277.
Cullen TM, Larson DW, Witton MP, Scott D, Maho T, Brink KS, Evans DC, Reisz R. Theropod dinosaur facial reconstruction and the importance of soft tissues in paleobiology. Science. 2023;379(6639):1348-1352. doi:10.1126/science.abo7877
Gignac PM, Erickson GM. The biomechanics behind extreme osteophagy in Tyrannosaurus rex. Sci Rep. 2017;7:2012. doi:10.1038/s41598-017-02161-w
Hieronymus TL, Witmer LM, Tanke DH, Currie PJ. The facial integument of centrosaurine ceratopsids: Morphological and histological correlates of novel skin structures. Anat Rec. 2009;292:1370-1396. doi:10.1002/ar.20985
Witmer LM. Nostril position in dinosaurs and other vertebrates and its significance for nasal function. Science. 2001;293(5536):850-853. doi:10.1126/science.1062681
Poor Wilson. So sad to see that Andrea left him for Cameron.
Lmaooo
And Cameron is Wilson's dad, according to PNSO's "lore" 😂
@@BananaCake26 Goddamn! Wilson's dad must be a stallion!
@Calvinosaurus That is the funniest and strangely, one of the most positive thoughts I've read with regrds to Cameron! 🤣
Cameron was a much better kisser.
absolutely incredible insight and analysis on the lip/lipless debate that we don't get anywhere else for model reviewers. you're always a cut above the rest for research 🙏🙏
Thanks you mate! It's just my personal interest and I'm delighted that viewers like you appreciate both segments of my reviews. There are many who don't as they really want to just get to the money! 😁
I hope Pnso doesnt do another theropod again,BUT if they do, carnotaurus really deserves an update like T.rex has gotten. I can only imagine what an updated carnotaurs would look like. I wouldnt mind if they made a majungasaurus and like a rajasaurus afterwards too. Abelisaurs are underrated
i agree, their old carnotaurus feels too skinny, carnotaurus specifically has the great anatomical feature of the tail that it got vertebrae that interlock with each other and allow space for giant sprinting muscles at the base, which sacrifices the mobility of the tail something that is not shown in the old pnso carnotaurus and i would also like to see more thick athletic legs and a poweful neck on that creature
@@firegator6853 true, i would also like to see the integument reflect the finidngs of that carnotaurus skin paper (i dont remember the name or date lmao) i feel like the head would also really benefit from their improved sculpting and molds, as i felt that the original lacked the fineness that their current models have
You are so right👌🏼
they just announced a new theropod 😂
This time, Daspletosaurus!
@@akiyurei yeah snd they just showed lythronax lmaoo. Maybe this is a new pattern where they remake one species, and then make 2/3 more models belonging to that family to really flesh all groups out. Cant say im against this. Hopefully abelisaurs or spinosaurs are next, since both are severely underrepresented atm
what i love in the comparisons is cameron's posture, its more neutral unlike the more crouching position wilson has so when you compare it to tarbosaurus and zuchenghtyrannus you can appreciate their size and proportion differences better than you could with wilson
Great point! If poses are too contorted it really makes their sizes hard to appreciate. I kept trying to find the best post for Wilson depending on the pose of the model I'm comparing it to, but not always successful because of this! I'll wait till more people have Cameron, and then consider changing my customary comparator to Cameron!
To me personally lipful Theropods are more aesthically pleasing, the overbite in Tyrannosaurses throws me off a bit. Like if Cameron had lips, to me then it would be THE best Tyrannosaurus rex figure so far. Waiting for the Eofauna one. Next Tyrannosaurid needs to be Albertosaurus by PNSO haha. Awesome video tho with the science and all! Also this model might have already existed before the paper tho.
there is a poster in the cameron package that shows an albertosaurus and it looks more like a 3D model on a drawn background than a drawing, plus it even has jaw articulation lines so it could be early view of that model lol
@@firegator6853 Yeah Ive seen it, looks dope!
@@venator7251 it will be cool to see pnso making albertosaurus in 1:35 we would get a tyrannosaurid smaller than tarbosaurus but bigger than the "nanotyrannus"/juvenile tyrannosaurus so they will pretty much cover every scale
@@firegator6853 Indeed! Albertosaurus is my top 1 prehistoric animal. It would be so awesome if PNSO made Albertosaurus, and in 1/35 scale! There are pretty little figures of it even if it's well known by fossils 🤔
Est tu sur que la science est vraiment partout
It doesn't matter if you split the video into 2 or 3 parts; I still enjoy and learn a lot from your videos. And just as you said, this may be the best Tyrannosaurus Rex figure out there at the moment. I love this new pose and those new additions to the figure. I'm sure PNSO will give us more new and exciting figures in the future. Thank you so much for this informative video, my dear sir
You are most welcome! Interestingly even though I have relatively low interest in theropods, T Rex is one I have done a lot of reading on, in addition of course to the other favourites Carnotaurus and Spinosaurus. There is just so much to say about this guy! For example I would have loved to talk about the recent paper on eyeball size by Lautenschlager.
But I have to choose or else be editing 4-6 videos 😂
Thank you are always putting out they fantastic reviews. There is clearly a lot of effort put in. Always excited to see a new video
Wow thank you, it makes me happy to hear you say that! Yes, as you can tell, I indeed to put a lot of effort into them. Anatomy is my passion obviously, but it's also remembering why I want to do them when many excellent reviewers are already doing it: which is to share some of the science, and add something to help fellow enthusiasts appreciate their models and enjoy them even more! (Or conversely, to prevent them making a horrible mistake... itoycoughcoughcarnotaurus😖)
Lovely review as always! The educational segments are always a welcome addition.
Liplessness aside, this is one of my favorite Tyrannosaur figures out right now (especially as someone who doesn't care much for BotM's action figure style). Rebor's new(-ish) Tyrannosaurs, while more accurate than their past work still feel a little to stylized for my tastes.
In all honesty, I'm kind of thankful that PNSO is staying loyal to the lipless look for now. The prospect of PNSO spontaneously switching to lips always makes me a little hesitant to pull the trigger with museum line figures, so, as much as I like the aesthetics of lipped dinosaurs, I hope PNSo takes their time with another remastered T. rex.
pnso theropods have something unique other than skeletal accuracy which gives a realistic feeling of "we do not know everything about these animals" the way they do the soft tissue and the way that instead of taking the easy side of lips in this debate they chose the lipless until this thing is solved once and for all
it's clear that they care about the science for these animals because they really did add lips to their dinosaurs until the Thomas Carr paper came out, so even if it is debatable it's still following *something* and they clearly dont do it for the purpose of looking cool...idk if they would follow any scientific paper or they follow certain people and Thomas Carr is one of those but if we were to assume the second it won't be easy for us to see them giving their theropods lips again because even after the recent paper Thomas Carr still supports that osteological corelates are definitive and the only thing that will convince him otherwise is direct practical evidence like a mummy or something
whatever the case i dont care about lips and it gets so annoying because all the time it's just complaining and acting like we know 100% for sure for every single theropod group...when i draw i do give my dinosaurs lips because it's the easy way out but i dont mind if people choose lipless as long as its done nicely
@tracewyrm
Thanks for your kind words!
It would have been really easy to just do lips thinking about just sales. Imagine PNSO's fine detailing and paint applications and everything else. Now then adding lips but making them seal perfectly, which many people were disappointed with not achieving the Rebor Kiss. PNSO could have done this for that easy cash grab. If they were to start jumping on the lip issue because it's en vogue, I would be more inclined to be less optimistic about how they make sculpt decisions.
Even though scientifically I'm inclined towards lips, I am not emotionally beholden to preach or convert. I enjoy reading and following the development of each argument and counterargument. Meanwhile, I'll continue to enjoy models that have some scientific reasoning behind each design decision, and as you say, I'll let PNSO come round to another remastering.... or not 😊
Great video!
My wish list for PNSO:
1. Lipped versions of major offerings. Let the buyers vote with their dollars.
2. Bases or neck/tail flexibility to allow for more interesting poses.
3. Deinonychus, Edmontosaurus, or a 1/35th titanosaur.
1. Regarding lips, I'm afraid it will have to depend on a fundamental shift in PNSO's outlook on this. IT would habe been a no-brainer cash grab to just slap lips on this one and made the closure seal perfectly and watch the money roll in but... NO.
2. Bases is something I'm definitely missing from the old Museum line series! It would really elevate the line and make it stand out as something special, considering that PNSO's non-Museum line models are so good you sometimes wonder what separate Museum Line modes.
3. Agree with you, but hopefully E. _annectens_ !
¡Una segunda parte llenísima de contenido e información útil! Siempre se aprende viendo tus vídeos 🤩👏🏼👏🏼
¡Gracias por tu elogio! También pareces ser un apasionado de la ciencia :)
¡Ojalá mi español fuera mucho mejor y pudiera entender español y aprender de tus videos también! ¡Será un largo camino!
@@DinosDragons Gracias por tus palabras, son una motivación increíble 🥰
Great looking model, as expected from the great masters at PNSO, not to mention the wonderful review as always! I'm still planning on getting Rebor's Kiss when circumstances allow, their teeth-work is still my favorite.
Thank you!
There is no doubt whatsoever. Rebor does teeth and does them splendidly. There's something in that kind of sheen that just looks like real enamel, and no hint of any paint having been applied at all. Very real. Been a fan since their Smilodon, an animal where you absolutely MUST do them well!
PNSO Fan Theory: Willson looks so different from the rest of the models in the Tyrannosaur family at 13:10 because he is an InGen clone of the original Cameron T. Rex that has been recreated for John Hammond's Jurassic Park.... Courtesy of PNSO who were off course the only ones qualified to make Hammond's dream come true
Your story is more pleasing to me than to have the franchise sullied by fake genetially created monsters! Come on, guys, just a bit more brain work and creative storywriting, and we don't need any of these monsters. Stick to dinosaurs!
Another badass pnso theropod! What a lovely sculpt, only problem is the price tho.. 9/10
Yes it's really sad what shipping and middle man charges and taxes do to this model! Not to mention perhaps, tariffs. You should be actually enjoying this for far less.
I really support the idea of lips in theropods. But this figure is just phenomenal despite its liplessness. This review sealed my purchase of Cameron earlier this week. Thank you again for your deligence in conveying scientific information and your fair and honest reviews of the models themselves.
Can't wait to see what Psno has in store for 2024
Sorry for the late reply! Thank you for your comment! I am passionate about papers and I do try even though my knowlegge of theropods is rubbish compared to my real interest, the sauropods, hadrosaurs and ceratopsians lol! I am sure you are enjoying this model in spite of the labial deficiency! 😁
@@DinosDragons never worry about late replies I'm sure you're busy enough with the videos. Yes I ended up getting a good few pnso models thanks to your videos and the haolonggood alamosaurus and megaraptor. Trying to hunt down 2 pnso torosaurus for myself and a friends birthday. Keep up the good work as always.
While I love the toothless look for the monster-esque style and how it looks on high quality models, I'm a science nerd at heart and the lipped dinosaurs look more like actual animals, it's really growing on me.
After seeing PNSO's lipped Saurophaganax it has to be my favorite from them so far. Seeing non-lipped designs on realistically-styled dinosaurs (compared to jurassic park-stylized skull proportions,) they start to look like they have really goofy overbites with shriveled dry mouths.
Even though until recently, I preferred the unlipped look, my belief science-wise is that they probably had lips. And nowadays I am happy to get both. I will say that some really are too much for me, for example if they neglect tooth slippage and lead to some ridiculous overbites. Then that snaggle-toothed look becomes a bit of a turn off.
I look forward to when PNSO gives us a lipped T Rex, along with all the improvements in sculpt and paint application I would expect of PNSO by then! 😁
Me encantan la textura de la piel y la postura de este modelo, ...definitivamente una mejora notable con respecto a Wilson,.....Amazing review of this wonderful figure!!!
¡Gracias! ¡Sin duda, PNSO realmente sabe cómo hacer una piel realista!
Pero me parece que Wilson es texturalmente más interesante.😊 Ambos son mis favoritos!
I really appreciate the close up comparison of the skin detail between Rebor's Kiss/Tusk, and the new PNSO Cameron. The PNSO has much finer, and I suppose more accurate skin as a result. I think the head sculpt on PNSO's is more accurate too (lack of lips aside), although I was surprised to learn about the nostril position, and it seems Rebor has followed that direction (and BotM's T. rex figures as well). The good thing about having jaw articulation, is one can easily avoid the "crush closed" position in the supplementary material of the paper by Cullen et al, which I believe would be the jaw closed all the way on the PNSO figure. I do wonder how this figure compares to the BotM 1/35 scale T. rex scales, as those are fine, but perhaps also oversized (but a trade off for some texture at that scale). Aside from PNSO's I think the BotM one might be the most accurate in the meantime (perhaps until Eofauna finishes theirs, also based on Sue), but I understand the seams/articulation could be a turn off for many (particularly the "hoodie" on the neck, as many people have been calling it).
Edit: I also appreciate the comparisons between the Tarbosaurus and Yutyrannus. I really hope PNSO adds an Albertosaurus or Gorgosaurus. Really want a Gorgosaurus in particular to go with their Dinosaur Park formation hadrosaurids and ceratopsians, such as the Parasaurolophus and Styracosaurus.
Pour moi les plus précis tyrannosaurus rex en figurines sont
1- Cameron de pnso
2- rebor
3- bête of mesozoic
Bien sur cela peut changer
@Faelrin
Unfortunately I don't have a BOTM figure so I didn't make the comparison. It does look pretty nice from the pictures I've seen. As for the EoFauna I haven't seen any pictures of even a prototype. Only a 3D render a while ago. I'm sure they will adhere to the strictest accuracy as per their _modus operadi_ . The only thing I worry about there is the colour! By "hoodie" did you mean the EoFauna has interchangeable heads? 😲
Well I'm sure Albertosaurus is definitely coming, though I'm unsure about Gorgosaurus. Either way I'm happy to have a good albertosaurine as I'm sure PNSO will be able to do! If only they can keep to a truer 1:35 estimate this time.
@@DinosDragons It was in regards to the BotM figure. The neck articulation on it has been called a "hoodie" from a lot of people because of the way it looks and sits on the head of the figure.
i hope theyve got a true 1:35 spinosaurus in the works. with the giga having a remake in the museum line, and now cameron, makes me hope we'll see a new essien soon.
Me too! I would love a REAL 1:35 adult. It certainly seems way overdue!
Another Great Review and Hopefully Another one if PNSO released a Albertosaurus or Maybe hoping Edmontosaurus Annectens(Ananotitan) who knows!
Thank, and I agree. I really want an Edmontosaurus _annectens_ without that dunce cap for once! 🤣
PSNO did a fantastic sculpt and paintwork and weathering is impeccable but imo the Rebor Kiss and Tusk Tyranosaurus Rex is another level.
Head sculp itself of the above mentioned Rebor T- Rex is extraordinary realistic.
Not disrespectful towards PSNO sculpt though.
The nice thing is that different people favour different aesthetics so there's enough to go around 😊 I prefer PNSO's finer textures, but two areas Rebor definitel does better is in the teeth obviously, and also the unfortunate dab of paint on Cameron's postorbital crests 😔
In my opinion that's the definitive T-rex.
T-rex I waited for!
If you've waited all this while, this one is a great one to break the fast! 😁
Two opposing camps that remind me of Star Wars VS. Star Trek “which camp do you fall into” fandom.
I think that science will have its day….one day…and settle this issue.
I’m a lips guy.
Always thought the exposed tooth thing gained ground upon the release of Jurassic Park.
Notably, Scientific America published articles and even a book sporting Jurassic Park “Rexy” stylized artwork rather than original science accurate art.
Most of my old dinosaur books dating back to the 50’s show carnivorous dinosaurs with lipped/covered teeth.
Artwork going back to Charles R. Knight portray tyrannosaurids and other carnivorous dinosaurs lipped.
It’s artistic interpretation, I know, as is much of what our favorite figure producers make available to you and I.
Having said that, the new PNSO Tyrannosaurus iteration is one excellent figure and, although I will not be relegating Wilson to a back seat in any display, given the improvements on the Cameron sculpt, it’s pretty much a must have.
The Rebor Kiss, for the money, is my mind’s eye vision of a proper rex.
My first one had no issues until I opened the mouth. It never fully closed and I did use a dab of superglue to keep the mouth closed…..I have too many roaring carnivore figures….this works for me🙂
I did order a second Kiss to work onto one of Rebor’s stands.
It’s from their second run ordered through BBTS and the paint is just as strong as the first run and this one, so far, has no closure issue.
This particular video of yours is so well done and informational.
Can’t thank you enough for the continued high quality reviews and education.
Wow thanks so much for your reply! I am delighted that there are viewers who like a little bit of the background science; as you can probably tell it's a little passion of mine!
I fully agree that this is like Star Wars vs Star Trek. The thing is, why? I enjoy both franchises (Star Wars excepting episodes 7-9, to me just a bad dream). In fact I have the entire STTNG but all the Star Wars movies as well. People keep creating dichotomies when there is no need.
In the case of lips and no lips, there's an element of "versus" here so I undersatnd it a bit more, though not the emotional attachment people have to the extent that they have to attack others. I enjoy understanding both sides of the argument, and I think it's enough that if you are on any one side, just enjoy collecting. As you say, acceptability has changed over time. Perhaps, given how so many people were influenced by JP, that's what made this such a huge issue.
I think this Kiss thing really depends on luck. I have had at least two viewers tell me their Kiss came perfect, with lips that sealed fully. If you don't care about having it open and it's just going to be static, glue would be a good though permanent solution.😁 I would prefer to show mechanics in action, so watching how the lips seal as the mouth closes would have been perfect for me.
Finally, Wilson really still stands proudly on my shelf. There is something special about it, as well its iteration history, that I feel Cameron just doesn't have!
I really would like to have it seen next to the Declay T.rex
Ah, I usually choose my comparison using models that most collectors are more nicely to have. That's why as tempting as it was, I had to cut it out to keep the video not being longer than it already is! 🙂
@@DinosDragons Thats totally understandable. however I want to by one of these two probably later this year for my birthday and the decision is somewhat hard to me which one I want to choose 😅
I bought Wilson this year, and Cameron showed out... :(
BTW what is that T-Rex skull you own?
Oh, that's the Fossil Crates 1/8 scale "Tufts-Love" T Rex, UWBM 99000!
Is Cameron included in top 10 PNSO Dinosaur figure ?
You know, I actually have never thought of that! I guess it's just that it would be almost impossible to keep to 10 for PNSO... you can see that even for the Wild Safari and CollectA Top 10 videos I have to cheat a lot just to get my top 10 for those! 🤣🤣
@@DinosDragons wdyt the best trex figure from PNSO ? is it wilson or cameron ? thx
Yesssiiirrr
Glad you approve! 😁
@@DinosDragons haha also by any chance could you tell me if the new pnso T rex is bigger than the mapusaurus?
Robert Bakker's Dinosaur Heresies, which came out over 30 years ago, has a whole page talking about how dinosaurs would have had lips.
That is one of the most monumental books of influence in my life. It's one I have never let go and still sits on my shelf along with other gems. Dr Bakker really inspired me as a man of many talents, including his art work. Still delightful to this day!
So what would you consider is better, cameron or chuanzi the tarbosaurus?
When you say better, what sense did you mean? I would say that proportions wise, Cameron will definitely be more pleasing than Chuanzi. Some people dont' like the belly, though I have checked with a palaeontologist who thinks it falls within the realm of possible. I will say that looking at it now, I feel it's a little odd.
Cameron will be less controversial, and of course the level of sculpting behind it is way ahead of Chuanzi. If you have only space for one, get Cameron!
@@DinosDragons hey I meant in terms of accuracy but I can see your point on the belly of the tarbosaurus being a bit to large but chuanzi is one chubby boy
Depictions of a lipped tyrannosaur has now come full circle. Harkening back to the vintage paleoart of Charles Knight, Jean Zallinger, and Rod Ruth. Adherence to the conclusions of their own research I find laudable. As a general rule the more a notion is widely accepted the further from the truth it just may be, like the 2000’s trend of feathering every genus of tyrannosaur. I do fancy this new figure yet, lament the missed opportunity for a more obscure genus like Alioramus, Proceratosaurus, or Gorgosaurus.
Full circle is right! I recently saw some work by the greats of old and it's interesting how the parsimonoius assumption that dinosaurs were just bigger lizards seems to be paying off in the current thought right now!
Don't remind me 😖😖 It just seemed _impossible_ that a huge tyrannosaur would have a whole body of plumage. The physiological reasoning aside, just the thought that any apex predator would find leaving a whole trail of calling card feathers in its track and not be self-selected out was ridiculous!
As for Gorgosaurus, if you're a fan of that, Albertosaurus is coming right up! You could probably take that as a Gorgosaurus and not be too obviously wrong! 😁
If it had lips, it’d be completely perfect 😅 I’ll just get mine customised
I hope it's not going to cost you too much! I believe the artist would have to repaint the whole model, not just the labial area, so at you get to make this whatever scheme you want t! 😄
to be honest I don't really mind if my rex has lips or no lips 👁️👄👁️
great video 👍 + pnso is dropping 3 tyrannosaurs
Exactly! I'm totally uninvested emotionally. Can't understand the vehemence with which some people fight for one side or the other. As long as each model has some scientific reasoning why the artist made it, I can appreciate and enjoy it as such!
Waiting for PNSO theropod with lips
Maybe that would be Wilson v3 in the future!
I mean, the only thing we need is a tyrannosaurus mummy according to paleontologists like Dr. Stephen Barsotti and Dr. Thomas Carr, when that day comes, we will know the truth if it had feathers, lips or etc. I am still doubt that it did not had lips though, but until we find the truth
Yes, have to say that I'm inclined towards them having some kind of lip covering. Still, we'll probably never know 😪
Could you imagine a Pnso model with rebor’s teeth (Just an idea)
Yes! I would say more "fantasize" than "imagine".... I don't think it will ever happen unless they add on another 10% to the price 🤣
@@DinosDragons 😅 I’d have to say goodbye to my wallet at that point 😆
Wilson got regected
Haha.... there's always a better guy isn't there 😔
Malgré le nouveau article je pense toujours que les dinosaures theropode n’avaient pas de lèvres en plus cette article ce base sur une seule dent de tyrannosauroidé pourtant on on n’a découvert énormément je veut dire des milliers en plus nous avons pas suffisamment de preuves pour si oui ou non les dinosaures theropode avaient des lèvres pour moi sera resté très spéculative pour l’instant il existe aussi par ma de raisons contre les lèvres et pas tout les paléontologue sont d'accord avec le sujet des lèvres mais le temps nous dira sinon c’est une très bonne vidéo.
Et pour moi Cameron est le plus preci modèle de tyrannosaurus rex actuellement les dinosaures theropode pouvait être mieux sans lèvres selon mais bien sur et personnellement un wilson avec lèvres serait pas mieux est plus spéculative
Et j’espère que pnso continuerait à faire des theropode sans lèvres puisque pour l’instant le theropode sont plus précis sans lèvres selon moi et énormément de personnes même si le débat n’est pas terminé
Certainly, the issue of lips is still not closed, and I am waiting to hear what Dr Carr has to say about this.
That aside however, I would recommend reading the Cullen article. Although they do look at a single tooth, and the news media reports it as such, Cullen et al actually removed a tooth from a maxilla, meaning that the _other_ teeth would have also shown the same amount of wear. So it's not about _one_ tooth. The nuances of what they did and the inferences were quite convincing in my opinion. It's probably easier to see than to read, so if you look for the article and read the supplementary paper. Dr Mark Witton's blog article is also a very useful summary
markwitton-com.blogspot.com/2023/03/new-paper-fresh-evidence-and-novel.html
Im pretty sure they just have a lipless preference even though its alot likely they had lips. But im ok with no lips.
They explained the reasoning for their beliefs, so we could say they favour the proposed evidence for no lips. But if you don't mind that, then it's lucky you don't have to deal with that particular eyesore since the rest of the model reallys is quite sterling!
@@DinosDragons then again, wouldn't it be natural to not find any tissue on their fossils? I mean you cant really find preserved tissue, I mean you can, but rarely. Especially lips. So is it really ok for some people to say they didn't have them at All when tissue doesn't fossilize well, so it's a possibility they could of had lips.
@@solar-jaymi You misunderstand my meaning. When I say "evidence for no lips" I don't mean _absence of_ lips. I meant proposed lack of evidence for lips. Of course you're not going to find any! 😁What I should have written instead was "proposed _arguments_ for no lips".
@@DinosDragons oh no, I actually understood what you meant the first time, pnso already talked about why they add no lips. I just wanted to talk about how some people believe they didn't have them at all.
I only disagree only one point of yours. And that is on the color and more specifically the similar colorings of the "family" of T-rex. There are hundreds if not thousands of examples in birds where the males exbibit drastically brighter more colorful markings than the females. The young even have drastically altered colors than either parent. I would have preferred to see this sort of differentiation in the T-Rex models. Your channel is SO underrated, I love all your videos.
Thank you for your comment! I always welcome observations from knowledgeable viewers!😁
Birds have plumage, and they are a lot more wildly differentiated. Colour sexual dimorphism is still common in reptiles, but in general not wildly so. Mammals even less. But your point is taken, and this could certainly have been added. For example, now you mention it, even a different shade of the same colour here, a hint of green there. I would imagine maybe PNSO chose to cater to the more general public who already have Andrea, and decided to play it safe? 🤔🤔
my cameron's eyes are poorly painted! the eye colour comes out from the eye sockets, and looks goofy. same thing happened for zuchenhtyrannus as well! I envy yours having eyes painted properly... 😢
Damn... sorry to hear that. It does suck when you have to pay so much for this. Eyes have always been the main thing I worry about, because sloppiness is something I decried in the cheaper Carnegie, Safari and CollectA models. PNSO seems to have skipped this issue, but I suppose QC slipups do happen. I hope you can find someone to touch it up for at a reasonable cost 😥
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There _is_ actually a UK company by that name! 😲
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Definitely worth looking at for sure!
PNSO needs to change those teeth....
The teeth have always been PNSO's weak spot, unfortunately.
Lips/no lips aside, Cameron is the best PVC T-rex in the market, in my opinion. Rebor's rex looks like a monster next to Cameron, who just looks like an animal. I much prefer PNSO's style, as dinosaurs were only animals, not movie monsters. I'm tired of the monstrous designs, especially for theropods.
Finally someone said it. People are head over heels for kiss just because it has lips, even though it looks like its on steroids
Absolute facts👌🏼
@BananaCake26
I'm definitely with you. I want animals, not monsters (ok except some exceptions🤣)
Rebor _did_ look a little overmuscled. But I think at least they are on the right track. So pleased for them, but not for my wallet, when they decided to move towards more realistic models and away from movie monsters!