@@scientificaudiophile cool. now can we mock and berate you for making click bait content off other youtubers' work. enjoy the views they've given you.
@@dave6455youtubers tho have hardly any usable information; randy is a great example of this. i’ve watched 50 of them it’s a waste of server space all of it really.
Less than two minutes into this video and I am already irrate, he said, "One of my favorite speakers EVER" NOT "one of the BEST speakers ever" OMG get it right if you're going to criticize! Dare we call out, POLITICAL SPIN?
Meh. The hyperbolic take wasn't meant to be taken seriously. A lighter touch in the criticism could have made the same valid points hit home more easily for some viewers.
Great job (as always) exposing the charlatans (I tallied the names of at least 6 of the tools invoked by the angry marks in a three minute scan of the comments). Keep up the good work brosef, you’re doing a sort of public service for those too lazy/humorless/unironic/thick. Feels like the “Idiocracy” prophecy is being fulfilled🥺🥺 Just read half the comments 🤣😁🤣🤙🤙🤙
I have these speakers and they sound great! It has been reviewed by several Audio Enthusiasts on RUclips all giving it great marks. I can appreciate that we can have a difference of opinions. You have some valid points, but I think you should soften your message and it come across more effective and professional. I do wish you all the best!
if you want to do more, adding a wooden brace to the cabinet to also deal w/ resonance is part of Neil's mod kit plans ( and they are only $20 ! ) now TBH some say that just moves the resonance to another region ! another option is Danny of GR Research also has mod kit for the Sony CS5 Speaker ! his kit makes the two tweeters reconfigured ! the tweter becomes mid-range and the super tweeter a tweeter! it shows improved freq response ! and SOUNDS BETTER ! As i seem to be a glutton for punishment ( and have 6 CS5 speakers ) i will do BOTH kits do a 3 way A-B-C test comparison and let the designers hear their competitor's effort ! ( should be funny ! ) They ( both ) MIGHT have a kit for the Sony CS3 Speaker ,tower speaker too! big bro of the CS5 ( not yet ) he is working on one. I sent bnhhhhhh it to him. It is unclear IF it can be improved. the woofers are supposedly GLUED in on some of the ones made so it may NOT be practical or even possible to upgrade it ! what if yours has glued-in woofers impossible to remove w/ out damage ? ( are Sony idiots ? )
I don’t agree with many points with this video. One. you’re comparing the Sony speakers with studio monitors. The Sony speakers have a character to them which is favored by many.. 2. Just because a speaker cannot play loud doesn’t mean that it doesn’t sound good. Not everyone listens to music at 85Db plus. 3. Have you actually listen to the Sony speakers with your stereo? Measurements are great, but they don’t tell the whole story.
1. Who cares if masses on untrained listeners like a crappy speaker. 2. This speaker sounds like crap at 85 dB 3. I listened and measured. It's a garbage speaker at ANY price.
@@NoiseStaticBlur Each set of human ears is unique. Thousands of folks enjoy the sounds produced by the sscs5's. Pleasing sound reproduction is something that can't be quantified by charts or graphs.Do you really want a world where each speaker had the exact same measurements because some guy in a lab says that is what "good" sounding speakers must adhere to? Again, if you don't like them don't listen to them. But don't call someone "wrong" because they enjoy something you do not.
Hmmm. Danny Ritchie at GR Research hates on most high end speakers. He called the Sony a “unicorn” with great bones and designed his own crossover for it. Have you ever done any DIY?
You're probably right, but I am so focused on audio reproduction that I don't have any friends. I just don't have the time for social interactions - too much good music to be heard.
I have the sscs towers for my rear surrounds. They are great for that. Playing music is OK if you have a sub, but I use them for what I bought them for, surround sound.
read more below ! as they are now considered crap I had to PAY him to do the mods and as said some are glued in and supposedly very difficult or impossible to disasemble to modify improve ! @@ericnortan9012
If you already own them, they should be fine for rear duty, especially if your AVR has PEQ and can control the brightness. If you don't own them, I wouldn't buy them.
I imagine that you are familiar with Gr Research and their take on modifying the Sony's. Danny does include a lot of graphs of b-4 and after modification. I just looked at his website and noticed the modkit now costs a whopping $480.00 plus tax, shipping, and the fact that it's up to the customer to build them. I want to talk to at least one person who has done this mod. Hell, it's even more than the mods to ATC's where the expenditure may actually benefit a nearly five grand pair of speakers with insane dynamics and clarity.
I installed the GR Research crossovers in the Klipsch RP-600m (original ones). To my ears, in my room, it sounds more balanced. It is definitely much lower in efficiency with the new crossover. FWIW, the CSS 1TD-X speaker (kit) absolutely crushes the modded Klipsch. I believe they even beat my Magnepan 1.7i, but I'm still testing that out. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't spend $500 to upgrade a $200 speaker. The money I spent on the Klipsch mods would have been better spent on another pair of CSS, the 2TD-X for my main listening room.
I did the GR Research mod on the Neumi BS5s and CS5. Very happy with the results, and for me the fact that I got to work on them myself was actually a selling point (I enjoy tinkering with electronics as much as listening to them 😂). I have them set up in my living room home theater and they have excellent clarity and detail. The before vs after was startling, absolutely obvious in the first 10 seconds of listening. They're still not as exciting as, say, the full size vintage Advent speakers my dad has and won't blow you away with volume, but I don't really rock out hard anymore, and prefer listening at moderate volumes which these can do very well (with a properly integrated sub or two, of course, for that low end extension).
I bought CS5 3 years ago when it was $73, then sold them. They sound balanced and neutral than BS22 at mid-range, not that "shouty", but, as you said, CS5 definitely lack of bass. Both BS22 and CS5 are good at $100 range. But neither of them can beat decent $200 speakers
I agree I got the sc5s and the STRDH190 for 200 bucks with 100 ft of speaker cable......black Friday deal. Then Santa brought me an RT85. 6 months later I now have an R-N1000A a PB2000 and the new SVS Evolution Bookshelfs. I whole new ball game.
Actually he didn’t say it was the best speaker ever, he said it was his favourite speaker. A very different statement. Your whole critique seems to be based on him saying they were the ‘best ever’.
He said his favorite speakers ever, I believe. Just because the Lions are my favorite team doesn't mean I think they are the best team ever. Just trying to keep things in perspective.
@@scientificaudiophile Thanks a lot! I’m gonna check it out. How about Rotel a11 Tribute? I’m new in Hifi and just heard about it Would be great if you review Rotel!
if you want to do more, adding a wooden brace to the cabinet to also deal w/ resonance is part of Neil's mod kit plans ( and they are only $20 ! ) now TBH some say that just moves the resonance to another region ! another option is Danny of GR Research also has mod kit for the Sony CS5 Speaker ! his kit makes the two tweeters reconfigured ! the tweeter becomes mid-range and the super tweeter a tweeter! it shows improved freq response ! and SOUNDS BETTER ! As i seem to be a glutton for punishment ( and have 6 CS5 speakers ) i will do BOTH kits do a 3 way A-B-C test comparison and let the designers hear their competitor's effort ! ( should be funny ! ) They ( both ) MIGHT have a kit for the Sony CS3 Speaker ,tower speaker too! big bro of the CS5 ( not yet ) he is working on one. I sent him it to him. It is unclear IF it can be improved. the woofers are supposedly GLUED in on some of the ones made so it may NOT be practical or even possible to upgrade it ! what if yours has glued-in woofers impossible to remove w/ out damage ? ( are Sony idiots ? ) PS @craigenputtock 1 month ago Probably the biggest shortcoming of that Sony speaker is the cheap light cabinet. Anyone who has these should add a dowel brace between the side panels. Jack Dale : as far as the thin cabinet i asked and danny said yes you can glue / screw additional pieces of wood or MDF on to the outside to build it up . ( then just paint it ! i imagine easy really ! ) so just do it ! ( and chamfer the the front edges ) guess i will buy a router !
I agree on the Adams (T5, T7, T8 series) if you feed them with a proper balanced dac. On the other hand, making fun of other youtubers isn't the way to go.
Funny I thought he was going to do the Danny Richie Crossover, over haul. If you have issues 😂 with the CS units see his overhaul. Danny obviously runs a Spectral analysis, points out the Box needs No Rez and a good crossover. He has the Super Tweeter become the tweeter the original tweeter he turns it into Mid Range, and gets rid of all the cheesie parts. While he doesn't like the woofer frame as it's stamped steel. He then gets rid of Sand cast resistors, then offs the iron core inductors, gets rid of crappy Steel in the signal path, and the crappy PVC cableing. Yes, the upgrade is spendy. But you honor what you have. And while you can get a pair of Warfdales and regardless of a better Woofer you will still if you want to upgrade them to a better sound quality you are going to get rid of their crossover cheese. So, there is that.
And I didn't think specifically Randy was trying to necessarily say that the upgrade would manditorily make the speakers exactly equal. But in comparison the may get close and certainly better than their present state. And the end result or results really depend on your ears and budget. When you have the basic knowledge of spectral analysis and the fundamental design you can make an educated assumption and either proceed or look elsewhere. No one has the same ears or hearing mechanics let alone personal preference. Speakers in combination with good or bad amplification not to mention room acoustic all play their parts on what you like or will accept.
The best deals in hifi are always the used deals. That said I saved up and paid a princely £700 for a pair of brand new Revel M105. £1800 speakers. Many speakers are like fashion, and prices drop very quickly once they are not the new thing any more. This bodes very well for us users.
I have owned the Sonys (found them for $35 at Goodwill) and now own the Lintons. I don’t have measuring equipment, but there is no way in hell that the Sonys would ever be as good as the Lintons. Thanks for exposing the truth here SA.
In Europe, Thomann sells the T5V for less than € 300 a pair and the T8V for less than € 500 a pair. The T8V goes straight to 45 HZ and -6 db dip is about 30 HZ.
It’s funny how polarizing these Sony speakers are. I blame Sony for putting an overpriced MSRP then putting them on sale for 50-60% off MSRP every other week. About 6 years ago I was shopping for a soundbar for movies in my living room. I have a modest stereo system in a spare room. These Sony’s were on sale for a ridiculous price, so I opted for them instead of a soundbar. I bought the tower version of these, the center channel, subwoofer, and a the respectable STR-DN1060 receiver for $800. Basically the entire 3.1 speaker system was $300. I love that the towers are front ported as my wife has a neurotic compulsion to place all furnishings directly against a wall. Anyway, I’ve set the crossover point to 90hz and don’t generally listen at high volumes. I’ve managed to convince my wife to keep the speakers about 8” from the wall. And the speakers are broken in. Yes, speakers do need to break in. The rubber or polyurethane in drivers can be stiff from factory and do benefit from 20-30 hours of break in. Electronics DO NOT need a break in period. Anyway, after setting them up to play with their strengths, they sound decent for the price. It’s just funny that people act like these are either total trash or the best speaker Evaah! When in reality they are just a good budget or entry level HOME THEATER (I.E. designed to work with EQ and a subwoofer) speaker if you get them on sale. They are fairly dynamic with good separation and low distortion at low to moderate volumes. A side note, the super tweeter is admittedly probably just a marketing gimmick and part of Sony’s “HiRes” sales pitch. But I have wondered if the 20khz and above sound waves somehow affect the audible hi frequency sound waves in some way? Perhaps they have a phase interaction with the audible high frequencies that wouldn’t measurable on a Klippel near field scanner, idk.
Probably the biggest shortcoming of that Sony speaker is the cheap light cabinet. Anyone who has these should add a dowel brace between the side panels.
and if you want to do more, adding a brace to the cabinet to also deal w/ resonance is part of neil's mod kit plans ( and they are only $20 ! ) another option is Danny of GR research also has mod kit for the Sony CS5 Speaker ! might have one for the Sony CS3 Speaker ,tower speaker too! ( not yet ) he is working on one i sent him it is unclear IF it can be improved as far as the thin cabinet i asked and danny said yes you can glue / screw additional pieces of wood or MDF on to the outside to build it up . ( then just paint it ! i imagine easy really ! ) so just do it ! ( and chamfer the the front edges ) guess i will buy a router !
Everyone was pushing the SSC5's so hard that I caved and picked up a pair at BestBuy to see wtf it is all about. I returned them that same day. Horrible, cheap, ugly little things. I was scared I was going to tear the woofer turning up the volume a little bit and BestBuy would not take them back.
To each there own, i am not on engineers side pretty much ever when it comes to audio though. Have fun with concrete numbers and graphs. We're just not learned enough is what i get from you all. Thats you're opinion but im sure you would like to spend all day trying to prove it with charts and graphs.
can always learn to read them; it’s not too tricky and they say much more than adjectives do helping inform the public on what they’re buying. like nutritional labels via food. learning can be neat, check it out.
Why so negative personally towards Randy. You could have said the same thing without attacking him. Shame!!! Also I own these speakers, they are very good for the price, better then almost anything for less then $200 a pair. Easy fixs for the treble, don't tow in and turn down the treble by 2db. Bass is reinforced by moving closing to a wall, about 10-12 inches and turn up the bass a couple db. They will hit hard! Also 85 db is plenty loud enough for a small to medium sized room. Who really listens to music much louder, you can cause hearing damage plus piss off neighbors. You, sir, are completely wrong, do better!
Hello, Scientific Audiophile, so thinking of buying Paradigm Monitor SE Atom bookshelf loudspeakers. Looking to keep the speaker budget below 500.00. Or should I go for the KEF Q150? Thanks.
There are absolutely no superlatives in audio. FYI, zero listening fatigue with the SONY's. They are what they are and with a few EQ tweaks they perform well. @cheapaudioman is a breath of fresh air in the stale world of self proclaimed audiophiles.
OMG how delusional can you really be? Labeling CheapAudioMan as "a breath of fresh air" is quite a statement. Could you consider the possibility that figures like him are the very problem in the audio community?
Lol, what a hypocrite you are Ron. You and your buddy Joe Don Baker at GR Research had no problem putting out a negative video of other reviewers, but if someone does it to your buddy Randy you object?
@@piglingbland8666 I don't give a rip about the "negativity" as you called it. There are some things that Danny said/says that I do/don't agree with. As for THIS video, I couldn't care less about anything negative he had to say about anyone, including Randy. What I found worth poking fun of is the lack of original thought, ideas/opinions that COULD have been a compelling/interesting video as opposed to what he chose to do. So yeah, call me a hypocrite if that fits in your delusional, narrow minded narrative. I don't care.
You like picking on people that don’t deserve it? Making fun of the way someone talks? How old are you? Interesting. I’m going to look into you. If there are skeletons in your closet I’ll expose them. Look at SOC. 😂
The 105 minute video where he called out other RUclipsrs because of their terrible rooms and ranted that if anyone wants to demo his stuff they need to come to Texas? If yes, no I haven't seen it.
i think this is needed thank you!!! sorry all yall hurt ppl. the influencer catchy reviewers as usual are very very watered down mock versions of being any kind of informative resource. they’re a waste of algorithm and server space. it takes a lot of genitals to confront it. way to go author of this here channel.
No crossover mod can improve bass extension?! It’s called harmonics and clarity which are greatly affected by crossover components and values. Maybe you’re referring to graphs but real world perception is another story. Are you just trying to get views by bashing a RUclipsr with more followers?!
those are my favorite speakers for desktop use. You must be really cranking them to get them distorting. Always room for some genelecs, if you can afford them.
@@scientificaudiophile I only commented because you said they can go loud. I use them in a near field set up, where the work just fine. I wouldn't recommend them as general hifi speakers, they are not good at filling a room with sound
He never said it was the best speaker ever and also says it breaks apart at higher volumes in the video....... He's giving his opinion and you're getting irate about it? Lol calm down dude, people love these speakers for a reason.
I did buy a pair of the Sonys I have many large Klipsch HERITAGE line including Cornwalls / LaScallas. So I wasn’t expecting much from these little Sonys. I was somewhat impressed and not a hater on bookshelf speakers. Many nice ones out there. Personally I would leave them alone. The Sonys or any bookshelf speaker will never overcome physics. IMHO.
Right. In the grand scheme, all bookshelves suck. I'll take a 15" 3-way, or really any good true full range speaker that can pull some real power. The only way to make a bookshelf sound proper is buy a sub to reinforce them. Having said that, the highest quality bookshelves I have seriously listened to were Elac DBR62 that I bought my daughter. Really nice speakers, quality drivers, sounded great, but still lacking. With a sub they are exceptional for use in a smaller room. But when it's all said and done, in my eyes, bookshelves are for surrounds. Floorstanders are the way to go.
But for some applications and kids rooms , a nice bookshelf will at least help pass down our passion to the next generation and get them away from the junky overpriced Bluetooth “speakers”.
Bro, you have a lot of hate. I get it,use an Up an coming reviewer for clickbait. Why bring hate to the table, Do your reviews and let people want to subscribe to you because of your style.
Why would I give any credibility to a guy who's got his (weird looking) speakers hanging on the wall in a completely senseless configuration? Oh wait, tell me there are two more hanging from the other walls so you can have "Surround Sound"!
Honestly, these reviewers should be subject to critique. They have a million financial conflicts of interest and make a lot of money selling products to the audience. I have no strong opinion on cheap audioman but in general there is way too much deference to celebrity creators in this hobby.
Why are audio nerds always so angry? When I walk into a high end audio store they're always spitting in my face about how much I don't know about audio, and now I turn to youtube and get the same treatment. It's just a pair of speakers in a very affordable price range, of course no matter what you do to it, it won't be perfect. Installing an upgrade to an inexpensive speaker may be the spark of creativity someone wants or needs to get deeper into audio, or design their own systems. Yes people have "untrained ears", but who cares when people are trying to enjoy their lives rather than trying to put other people down about their own subjective opinions about things.
When those "subjective" opinions are based on making money through links to buy those speakers, links to the other products they are schilling, someone needs to let people know they aren't just "opinions". If CheapAudioMan can make a buck selling the worst speakers available, he will do it.
@@scientificaudiophile I completely agree.Randy is 100% getting kick-backs.. This is precisely what troubles me about these influencers - they lack honesty with their audience. While some might argue that they're not forcing their audience into purchases, the reality is that many individuals live far from local HiFi stores. As a result, they heavily depend on these reviewers to offer truthful and transparent insights before investing their hard-earned money.
The sony need cabinet work, and even with a new crossovers, the drivers are still junk. Just pay the money for a better speaker to start with like an emotiva b1+, Elac, SVS prime, NHT c3.
Definitely a spicy reaction video. It's great to hear someone with a ruthless, direct, highly critical, unafraid to be seen as mean approach. I really don't think you're going to hurt Randy's feelings. If you don't have a thick skin in the public arena, you need to think about another career. If someone doesn't like your approach, they are free to scroll to another RUclips reviewer. I like and listen to the reviewers you blast, but it's good to be reminded to remain critical. Buyer beware.
This is your RUclips strategy? Attacking other RUclipsrs? You can disagree without making fun of people. Especially when they have 97k more followers than you. Good luck
i never needed to listen to those Sony spkrs to know they are bad; a super tweeter in a $90 spkr?!?!? 😅🤣😂 those sony are the same kind of spkrs they have been including in their boomboxes since the 90s 😅🤣😂😅🤣😂 i remember the blue woofer from that "age".
To cheapaudioman's defense, beside the usual hyperbole, he refers to the Sony as not worth $200 in many other videos. He is also after sales, being cheap.. Concert fatigue at high volume? Well, there are medical studies that show loss of hearing caused by rock concert.. High sound volume is bad for your health 🤕🤪
@@scientificaudiophile I don't oppose you making yourself deaf, as long as it is within your soundproof room. :-) My comment was more about how this obsession for amplifiers high power will deprive you of the music you love.. Otherwise, get cool, man. The whole world is not there to get you. :-) That rage is not healthy.
If you think that @cheapaudioman is on the Sony "take", maybe you should spend a bit of time surveying his reviews to see how many Sony products he has reviewed, and how he has reviewed them. Then, provide the results to your viewers. I would give you the answers, but I prefer that you do your own work...for a change.
A speaker that falls apart at higher volumes is like a club sandwich that falls apart when you pick it up: It's just a nasty mess and you get sauce on your pajamas
I really don't think we need to watch videos like this. I was genuinely giving this guy's opinion a fair share, but the more I watched, the more I realized is just disgruntled and came across more like a personal attack on Chief audio man than about the speaker itself
You should buy a pair and review them yourself I know some people love the sonys and that also put a little bit of insolation in and there are some people that love the Klipsch better than the Sonys it all depends on the person's ear and what each person likes you may also get a husband that thinks the expensive speaker sounds better than the cheap and the wife thinks the cheaper speaker sounds better than the expensive speaker
@@MOzarkMike Because when you say hyper bowl you can find out who the English nannies are when they tell you you're not pronouncing hyperbole correctly.
@@scientificaudiophile www.circuitstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/two-stage-class-A-power-amplifier.png. Class A all the way! Make sure you belittle as many people and ideas as you can. You’ll fill up with subscribers. (Or not). Lowering others to elevate yourself means you are starting at rock bottom. if you’re worth a damn you’ll lift others up, not put them down.
A speaker should have a flat, extended downsloping response. This has been observed time and time again in speaker research. This is not opinion. The sony is far from flat. It also has no bass by this metric. Compared to other options at it's price point it is outperformed. It's bad get over it.
Where do I begin? You must be one of those guys that only looks at charts and ears don’t count. I guess the other RUclips reviewers that touted the Sony are idiots. Examples are Steve Gutenberg and Jay Soulsik. Both did favorable reviews. I bought these speakers for $80 as a present for my son. He listens to classical music and does not play at 90db. He’s thrilled with them. They were a GREAT deal. Your mean spirited treatment of another RUclipsr is in really poor taste. Randy does a lot of real cheap products along with moderately priced gear. He’s also a joy to watch and entertaining vs someone that swallowed a sour ball.
I don't get this. If more followers equals better, dies that mean Lew later is the best tech channel? Is Dave dobrick the best vlogger....often times lowest common denominator stuff is what draws huge followings. I just discovered this channel so I don't know, perfectly plausible this guy is a jerk. But if we just look at follower count, we are asking to get ripped off. More followers equals more partnerships, affiliate links and more financial interest is getting you to consume ....reviewers are supposed to save us money not praise 95 percent of the stuff they get.
I must have missed where he showed frequency response changes for the mod. Please let me know the time stamp he showed all those important details. Thanks.
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When you attack another you tube your only attacking yourself.
Exactly right! Luckily I never attack, I mock and berate.
@@scientificaudiophile cool. now can we mock and berate you for making click bait content off other youtubers' work. enjoy the views they've given you.
@@dave6455 Right. Only Randy is allowed to make clickbait content. Otherwise, he wouldn't have a channel.
@@dave6455youtubers tho have hardly any usable information; randy is a great example of this. i’ve watched 50 of them it’s a waste of server space all of it really.
Thanks for the Adam t5v suggestion. Any idea how to connect a powered subwoofer to these speakers?
Your anger is quite entertaining, thank you!
Hello, do You like sauerkraut or relish on hotdogs?
Less than two minutes into this video and I am already irrate, he said, "One of my favorite speakers EVER" NOT "one of the BEST speakers ever" OMG get it right if you're going to criticize! Dare we call out, POLITICAL SPIN?
Meh. The hyperbolic take wasn't meant to be taken seriously. A lighter touch in the criticism could have made the same valid points hit home more easily for some viewers.
Just FYI: the word "hyperbole" is pronounced hye-PER-buh-lee.
Great video! Very informational!
Glad it was helpful!
Quite an insightful video, thanks man!
I can't wait for your Darko bashing series. ❤❤
Great job (as always) exposing the charlatans (I tallied the names of at least 6 of the tools invoked by the angry marks in a three minute scan of the comments).
Keep up the good work brosef, you’re doing a sort of public service for those too lazy/humorless/unironic/thick.
Feels like the “Idiocracy” prophecy is being fulfilled🥺🥺 Just read half the comments 🤣😁🤣🤙🤙🤙
Comments are sometimes more entertaining than the video. Thanks
I have these speakers and they sound great! It has been reviewed by several Audio Enthusiasts on RUclips all giving it great marks. I can appreciate that we can have a difference of opinions. You have some valid points, but I think you should soften your message and it come across more effective and professional. I do wish you all the best!
if you want to do more, adding a wooden brace to the cabinet to also deal w/ resonance is part of Neil's mod kit plans ( and they are only $20 ! )
now TBH some say that just moves the resonance to another region !
another option is Danny of GR Research also has mod kit for the Sony CS5 Speaker ! his kit makes the two tweeters reconfigured ! the tweter becomes mid-range and the super tweeter a tweeter! it shows improved freq response ! and SOUNDS BETTER !
As i seem to be a glutton for punishment ( and have 6 CS5 speakers ) i will do BOTH kits do a 3 way A-B-C test comparison and let the designers hear their competitor's effort ! ( should be funny ! )
They ( both ) MIGHT have a kit for the Sony CS3 Speaker ,tower speaker too! big bro of the CS5 ( not yet ) he is working on one. I sent bnhhhhhh it to him.
It is unclear IF it can be improved. the woofers are supposedly GLUED in on some of the ones made so it may NOT be practical or even possible to upgrade it !
what if yours has glued-in woofers impossible to remove w/ out damage ? ( are Sony idiots ? )
Lots of anger in the comments… am I the only one who sees the humour in this video? Great work, very entertaining!!
Thanks. Many think I'm angry but just having a lot of fun 😊
the Sonys are on sale at BestBuy right now for $99 12/11/22
They are fine for a small room or dorm etc. and fun with a sub for someone who doesn't crank them up.
I don’t agree with many points with this video.
One. you’re comparing the Sony speakers with studio monitors. The Sony speakers have a character to them which is favored by many..
2. Just because a speaker cannot play loud doesn’t mean that it doesn’t sound good. Not everyone listens to music at 85Db plus.
3. Have you actually listen to the Sony speakers with your stereo? Measurements are great, but they don’t tell the whole story.
1. Who cares if masses on untrained listeners like a crappy speaker.
2. This speaker sounds like crap at 85 dB
3. I listened and measured. It's a garbage speaker at ANY price.
@@scientificaudiophile Then don't listen to them. Thousands disagree sport.
@@tailgator5483 And thousands are wrong. You only have to look outside the window to know you can't just trust random people on anything.
@@NoiseStaticBlur Each set of human ears is unique. Thousands of folks enjoy the sounds produced by the sscs5's.
Pleasing sound reproduction is something that can't be quantified by charts or graphs.Do you really want a world where each speaker had the exact same
measurements because some guy in a lab says that is what "good" sounding speakers must adhere to? Again, if you don't like them don't listen to them. But don't call someone "wrong" because they enjoy something you do not.
@@scientificaudiophile Garbage like your opinion
Hmmm. Danny Ritchie at GR Research hates on most high end speakers. He called the Sony a “unicorn” with great bones and designed his own crossover for it. Have you ever done any DIY?
Yes, rebuilding speakers was a hobby of mine. Realized that big companies can do it better for the money.
I got some Revel speakers. Then you don't need to worry. Harman research is huge !
Rebuilding speakers is not a hobby.
Danny Ritchie is a snake oil salesman.
Really want to see you banging it with OCD Mikey and Jay's Audio.
You must be really fun to hang out with.
You're probably right, but I am so focused on audio reproduction that I don't have any friends. I just don't have the time for social interactions - too much good music to be heard.
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I think the dripping sarcasm would be great for roast potatoes so he’d be an invite to my dinner party…
…as long as he didn’t bring his mother.
@@scientificaudiophile sounds like a bitter pussyless man
I have the sscs towers for my rear surrounds. They are great for that. Playing music is OK if you have a sub, but I use them for what I bought them for, surround sound.
GR research may have a fix for them soon ! I am paying for the mods
@@jackdale9249 Nice, I will definitely check them out. I plan on moving them into my bedroom for fronts. Thanks for the heads up.
read more below ! as they are now considered crap I had to PAY him to do the mods and as said some are glued in and supposedly very difficult or impossible to disasemble to modify improve ! @@ericnortan9012
He said "one of my favourite speakers eva" key word is my
👍Ya, I pointed that out too. Favorite doesn't mean best.
would these speakers be fine as surrounds "SRL/R or SR Rear" instead?
If you already own them, they should be fine for rear duty, especially if your AVR has PEQ and can control the brightness. If you don't own them, I wouldn't buy them.
@@scientificaudiophile sadly I already bought them and can't return, granted I bought them to use only for surround duty.
What do you do? How did you make all that coin I see behind ya:)
Lawyer I’m guessing
I imagine that you are familiar with Gr Research and their take on modifying the Sony's. Danny does include a lot of graphs of b-4 and after modification. I just looked at his website and noticed the modkit now costs a whopping $480.00 plus tax, shipping, and the fact that it's up to the customer to build them. I want to talk to at least one person who has done this mod. Hell, it's even more than the mods to ATC's where the expenditure may actually benefit a nearly five grand pair of speakers with insane dynamics and clarity.
I installed the GR Research crossovers in the Klipsch RP-600m (original ones). To my ears, in my room, it sounds more balanced. It is definitely much lower in efficiency with the new crossover.
FWIW, the CSS 1TD-X speaker (kit) absolutely crushes the modded Klipsch. I believe they even beat my Magnepan 1.7i, but I'm still testing that out.
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't spend $500 to upgrade a $200 speaker. The money I spent on the Klipsch mods would have been better spent on another pair of CSS, the 2TD-X for my main listening room.
I would only mod if the mod kit was $50. Most people would spend $450 on a new speaker.
I did the GR Research mod on the Neumi BS5s and CS5. Very happy with the results, and for me the fact that I got to work on them myself was actually a selling point (I enjoy tinkering with electronics as much as listening to them 😂).
I have them set up in my living room home theater and they have excellent clarity and detail. The before vs after was startling, absolutely obvious in the first 10 seconds of listening. They're still not as exciting as, say, the full size vintage Advent speakers my dad has and won't blow you away with volume, but I don't really rock out hard anymore, and prefer listening at moderate volumes which these can do very well (with a properly integrated sub or two, of course, for that low end extension).
There's a reason why CAM has 133,000 subscribers and you only have 1600.
Cam has 133000 subs cuz he is a shill just like zeos.
@@TattooMyBones If a YTer can only get attention by going after another YTer, I call that pathetic. He didn't have to mention CAM. He chose to. POS
I think one of the best sub 400$ speakers is Kali LP-6's. JBL 305's are also very good.
Try the "Revel m126 Be speakers" they are about as good as it gets for bookshelf.
I bought CS5 3 years ago when it was $73, then sold them. They sound balanced and neutral than BS22 at mid-range, not that "shouty", but, as you said, CS5 definitely lack of bass.
Both BS22 and CS5 are good at $100 range. But neither of them can beat decent $200 speakers
I agree I got the sc5s and the STRDH190 for 200 bucks with 100 ft of speaker cable......black Friday deal. Then Santa brought me an RT85. 6 months later I now have an R-N1000A a PB2000 and the new SVS Evolution Bookshelfs. I whole new ball game.
@@budsmoker4201120 Nice AMP and speakers!😍
Actually he didn’t say it was the best speaker ever, he said it was his favourite speaker. A very different statement. Your whole critique seems to be based on him saying they were the ‘best ever’.
True, but the video is more compelling with my interpretation.
He said his favorite speakers ever, I believe. Just because the Lions are my favorite team doesn't mean I think they are the best team ever. Just trying to keep things in perspective.
Mick Foley has an audio channel? Kewl.
On another note, I did order the Adams t5v and they are great for 400 a pair.
What is the best integrated amp for Linton 85? below $1k
Yamaha 801, of course. 😀
@@scientificaudiophile Thanks a lot! I’m gonna check it out. How about Rotel a11 Tribute? I’m new in Hifi and just heard about it
Would be great if you review Rotel!
@@payamysf haven’t listened to the Rotel. They make good products.
if you want to do more, adding a wooden brace to the cabinet to also deal w/ resonance is part of Neil's mod kit plans ( and they are only $20 ! )
now TBH some say that just moves the resonance to another region !
another option is Danny of GR Research also has mod kit for the Sony CS5 Speaker ! his kit makes the two tweeters reconfigured ! the tweeter becomes mid-range and the super tweeter a tweeter! it shows improved freq response ! and SOUNDS BETTER !
As i seem to be a glutton for punishment ( and have 6 CS5 speakers ) i will do BOTH kits do a 3 way A-B-C test comparison and let the designers hear their competitor's effort ! ( should be funny ! )
They ( both ) MIGHT have a kit for the Sony CS3 Speaker ,tower speaker too! big bro of the CS5 ( not yet ) he is working on one. I sent him it to him.
It is unclear IF it can be improved. the woofers are supposedly GLUED in on some of the ones made so it may NOT be practical or even possible to upgrade it !
what if yours has glued-in woofers impossible to remove w/ out damage ? ( are Sony idiots ? )
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@craigenputtock
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Probably the biggest shortcoming of that Sony speaker is the cheap light cabinet. Anyone who has these should add a dowel brace between the side panels.
Jack Dale : as far as the thin cabinet i asked and danny said yes you can glue / screw additional pieces of wood or MDF on to the outside to build it up . ( then just paint it ! i imagine easy really ! ) so just do it ! ( and chamfer the the front edges ) guess i will buy a router !
Danny of GR Research Kit is almost $400!!! For $500 is possible to get much better ones.
yes BUT THOSE will need to be optimized too ! where does it end ? @@rickcorel5154
Any chance you could do a best speakers video? Maybe at £300/£500/£1000 etc
My infinite rating system now makes best of videos obsolete.
I agree on the Adams (T5, T7, T8 series) if you feed them with a proper balanced dac. On the other hand, making fun of other youtubers isn't the way to go.
Funny I thought he was going to do the Danny Richie Crossover, over haul. If you have issues 😂 with the CS units see his overhaul. Danny obviously runs a Spectral analysis, points out the Box needs No Rez and a good crossover. He has the Super Tweeter become the tweeter the original tweeter he turns it into Mid Range, and gets rid of all the cheesie parts. While he doesn't like the woofer frame as it's stamped steel. He then gets rid of Sand cast resistors, then offs the iron core inductors, gets rid of crappy
Steel in the signal path, and the crappy PVC cableing. Yes, the upgrade is spendy. But you honor what you have. And while you can get a pair of Warfdales and regardless of a better Woofer you will still if you want to upgrade them to a better sound quality you are going to get rid of their crossover cheese. So, there is that.
And I didn't think specifically Randy was trying to necessarily say that the upgrade would manditorily make the speakers exactly equal. But in comparison the may get close and certainly better than their present state. And the end result or results really depend on your ears and budget. When you have the basic knowledge of spectral analysis and the fundamental design you can make an educated assumption and either proceed or look elsewhere. No one has the same ears or hearing mechanics let alone personal preference. Speakers in combination with good or bad amplification not to mention room acoustic all play their parts on what you like or will accept.
The best deals in hifi are always the used deals. That said I saved up and paid a princely £700 for a pair of brand new Revel M105. £1800 speakers. Many speakers are like fashion, and prices drop very quickly once they are not the new thing any more. This bodes very well for us users.
You're absolutely correct here, thank you!
Welcome!
I have owned the Sonys (found them for $35 at Goodwill) and now own the Lintons. I don’t have measuring equipment, but there is no way in hell that the Sonys would ever be as good as the Lintons. Thanks for exposing the truth here SA.
Thanks
In Europe, Thomann sells the T5V for less than € 300 a pair and the T8V for less than € 500 a pair. The T8V goes straight to 45 HZ and -6 db dip is about 30 HZ.
These Adam T5V’s graph indeed looks incredible, I wish they were at least $2,000 a pair
The low cost is a serious problem. I may review a pair soon.
@@scientificaudiophile You could maybe get an aftermarket pair for way more than retail if it was burned in for 6000 hours
@@scientificaudiophile do it fast! I am considering those along with LP6 V2 and 308P mkii.
los Sony son muy buenos altavoces y son audiofilos no hay dudaa
Now that's funny!
I wish I had seen this a year before you made this. You are 100% correct, penny wise pound foolish.
Thanks
For people with a decent sub, a bookshelve speaker doesn't need to have extended bass. In thia case the mids and highs matter most
Thus the problem with the Sony CS5 - highs.
It’s funny how polarizing these Sony speakers are. I blame Sony for putting an overpriced MSRP then putting them on sale for 50-60% off MSRP every other week.
About 6 years ago I was shopping for a soundbar for movies in my living room. I have a modest stereo system in a spare room. These Sony’s were on sale for a ridiculous price, so I opted for them instead of a soundbar. I bought the tower version of these, the center channel, subwoofer, and a the respectable STR-DN1060 receiver for $800. Basically the entire 3.1 speaker system was $300. I love that the towers are front ported as my wife has a neurotic compulsion to place all furnishings directly against a wall. Anyway, I’ve set the crossover point to 90hz and don’t generally listen at high volumes. I’ve managed to convince my wife to keep the speakers about 8” from the wall. And the speakers are broken in. Yes, speakers do need to break in. The rubber or polyurethane in drivers can be stiff from factory and do benefit from 20-30 hours of break in. Electronics DO NOT need a break in period.
Anyway, after setting them up to play with their strengths, they sound decent for the price. It’s just funny that people act like these are either total trash or the best speaker Evaah! When in reality they are just a good budget or entry level HOME THEATER (I.E. designed to work with EQ and a subwoofer) speaker if you get them on sale. They are fairly dynamic with good separation and low distortion at low to moderate volumes.
A side note, the super tweeter is admittedly probably just a marketing gimmick and part of Sony’s “HiRes” sales pitch. But I have wondered if the 20khz and above sound waves somehow affect the audible hi frequency sound waves in some way? Perhaps they have a phase interaction with the audible high frequencies that wouldn’t measurable on a Klippel near field scanner, idk.
Probably the biggest shortcoming of that Sony speaker is the cheap light cabinet. Anyone who has these should add a dowel brace between the side panels.
and if you want to do more, adding a brace to the cabinet to also deal w/ resonance is part of neil's mod kit plans ( and they are only $20 ! )
another option is Danny of GR research also has mod kit for the Sony CS5 Speaker ! might have one for the Sony CS3 Speaker ,tower speaker too! ( not yet ) he is working on one i sent him it is unclear IF it can be improved
as far as the thin cabinet i asked and danny said yes you can glue / screw additional pieces of wood or MDF on to the outside to build it up . ( then just paint it ! i imagine easy really ! ) so just do it ! ( and chamfer the the front edges ) guess i will buy a router !
Anyone who owns these should throw them in the trash and buy a better pair of speakers.
What’s up with the weird hanging speakers on the wall?
JBL 8322. This is my home theater room, not my stereo room.
Home theater
I bought those, they are not bad, they are dreadful.
Everyone was pushing the SSC5's so hard that I caved and picked up a pair at BestBuy to see wtf it is all about. I returned them that same day. Horrible, cheap, ugly little things. I was scared I was going to tear the woofer turning up the volume a little bit and BestBuy would not take them back.
To each there own, i am not on engineers side pretty much ever when it comes to audio though. Have fun with concrete numbers and graphs. We're just not learned enough is what i get from you all. Thats you're opinion but im sure you would like to spend all day trying to prove it with charts and graphs.
can always learn to read them; it’s not too tricky and they say much more than adjectives do helping inform the public on what they’re buying. like nutritional labels via food. learning can be neat, check it out.
@@chinmeysway maybe some day I Kan bee as smart as you.
Adam vs Yamaha HS8.. GO!
I'm going to be doing an ADAM vs Kali soon.
@@scientificaudiophile That will work but the Adam will beat the Kali.. or not I have no idea.
Why so negative personally towards Randy. You could have said the same thing without attacking him. Shame!!! Also I own these speakers, they are very good for the price, better then almost anything for less then $200 a pair. Easy fixs for the treble, don't tow in and turn down the treble by 2db. Bass is reinforced by moving closing to a wall, about 10-12 inches and turn up the bass a couple db. They will hit hard! Also 85 db is plenty loud enough for a small to medium sized room. Who really listens to music much louder, you can cause hearing damage plus piss off neighbors. You, sir, are completely wrong, do better!
Randy thinks audioquest cables are good because he's a shill.
Hello, Scientific Audiophile, so thinking of buying Paradigm Monitor SE Atom bookshelf loudspeakers. Looking to keep the speaker budget below 500.00. Or should I go for the KEF Q150?
Thanks.
Naughty boy, knocking our favourite reviewer... I had to laugh at it.
There are absolutely no superlatives in audio. FYI, zero listening fatigue with the SONY's. They are what they are and with a few EQ tweaks they perform well. @cheapaudioman is a breath of fresh air in the stale world of self proclaimed audiophiles.
LOL you drank the Kool Aid
OMG how delusional can you really be?
Labeling CheapAudioMan as "a breath of fresh air" is quite a statement. Could you consider the possibility that figures like him are the very problem in the audio community?
I love a good RUclips beef.
This is the type of high quality, original and thought provoking content that RUclips desperately needs.
Ron, are you serving sarcastic sandwiches again? lol
@@mattallica76 you know me well buddy.
Lol, what a hypocrite you are Ron. You and your buddy Joe Don Baker at GR Research had no problem putting out a negative video of other reviewers, but if someone does it to your buddy Randy you object?
@@piglingbland8666 I don't give a rip about the "negativity" as you called it. There are some things that Danny said/says that I do/don't agree with. As for THIS video, I couldn't care less about anything negative he had to say about anyone, including Randy. What I found worth poking fun of is the lack of original thought, ideas/opinions that COULD have been a compelling/interesting video as opposed to what he chose to do. So yeah, call me a hypocrite if that fits in your delusional, narrow minded narrative. I don't care.
@@Newrecordday2013 Ok, you're a hypocrite.
You like picking on people that don’t deserve it? Making fun of the way someone talks? How old are you? Interesting. I’m going to look into you. If there are skeletons in your closet I’ll expose them. Look at SOC. 😂
lawl 35 likes, tells the whole story
nah that’s like say pop music has good song writing bc it’s popular
Did you see Danny Richie's RUclips video?
The 105 minute video where he called out other RUclipsrs because of their terrible rooms and ranted that if anyone wants to demo his stuff they need to come to Texas? If yes, no I haven't seen it.
i think this is needed thank you!!! sorry all yall hurt ppl. the influencer catchy reviewers as usual are very very watered down mock versions of being any kind of informative resource. they’re a waste of algorithm and server space. it takes a lot of genitals to confront it. way to go author of this here channel.
Wait, you want me to NOT talk to someone? Um, no. I’m an adult and can consult with anyone I chose…
The Klipsch R-51M were harsh. Ugh.
No crossover mod can improve bass extension?! It’s called harmonics and clarity which are greatly affected by crossover components and values. Maybe you’re referring to graphs but real world perception is another story. Are you just trying to get views by bashing a RUclipsr with more followers?!
I bought them on his recommendation and the just breaks up. I use them for front speakers but I want to get rid of them
Have the same beard 🐻
I have Adam T5Vs. They do not sound so good when you play them loud.
those are my favorite speakers for desktop use. You must be really cranking them to get them distorting. Always room for some genelecs, if you can afford them.
@@scientificaudiophile I only commented because you said they can go loud. I use them in a near field set up, where the work just fine. I wouldn't recommend them as general hifi speakers, they are not good at filling a room with sound
He never said it was the best speaker ever and also says it breaks apart at higher volumes in the video....... He's giving his opinion and you're getting irate about it? Lol calm down dude, people love these speakers for a reason.
I did buy a pair of the Sonys I have many large Klipsch HERITAGE line including Cornwalls / LaScallas. So I wasn’t expecting much from these little Sonys. I was somewhat impressed and not a hater on bookshelf speakers. Many nice ones out there. Personally I would leave them alone. The Sonys or any bookshelf speaker will never overcome physics. IMHO.
Right. In the grand scheme, all bookshelves suck. I'll take a 15" 3-way, or really any good true full range speaker that can pull some real power. The only way to make a bookshelf sound proper is buy a sub to reinforce them. Having said that, the highest quality bookshelves I have seriously listened to were Elac DBR62 that I bought my daughter. Really nice speakers, quality drivers, sounded great, but still lacking. With a sub they are exceptional for use in a smaller room. But when it's all said and done, in my eyes, bookshelves are for surrounds. Floorstanders are the way to go.
Agree! Ideally you , me and many others prefer a good full range high end speaker that requires no sub.
But for some applications and kids rooms , a nice bookshelf will at least help pass down our passion to the next generation and get them away from the junky overpriced Bluetooth “speakers”.
Bro, you have a lot of hate. I get it,use an Up an coming reviewer for clickbait. Why bring hate to the table, Do your reviews and let people want to subscribe to you because of your style.
No hate, just disgusted by how many people spread outright lies and naive non-trained music lovers fall for their corporate deception.
Why would I give any credibility to a guy who's got his (weird looking) speakers hanging on the wall in a completely senseless configuration? Oh wait, tell me there are two more hanging from the other walls so you can have "Surround Sound"!
I was thinking the same thing. Seems like a jealous Joe.
I take my best naps at rock concerts. Really fatigues me.
This is like watching Mystery Science Theater for audiophiles. Pure catnip for me. Love what you do here.
Bruv.. hating on other RUclips reviewers, hating on an established audiophile low-cost speaker. This is not the way.
I just refute lies. Like in your statement "an established audiophile low-cost speaker"
@scientific audiophile Yeah, you’re the truth and I’ve been to the moon.
@@scientificaudiophile No, its not. You are just a bitter man.
Honestly, these reviewers should be subject to critique. They have a million financial conflicts of interest and make a lot of money selling products to the audience. I have no strong opinion on cheap audioman but in general there is way too much deference to celebrity creators in this hobby.
@@michaelcorcoran8768 Agreed, except 'Not a hobby'
Why are audio nerds always so angry? When I walk into a high end audio store they're always spitting in my face about how much I don't know about audio, and now I turn to youtube and get the same treatment. It's just a pair of speakers in a very affordable price range, of course no matter what you do to it, it won't be perfect. Installing an upgrade to an inexpensive speaker may be the spark of creativity someone wants or needs to get deeper into audio, or design their own systems. Yes people have "untrained ears", but who cares when people are trying to enjoy their lives rather than trying to put other people down about their own subjective opinions about things.
When those "subjective" opinions are based on making money through links to buy those speakers, links to the other products they are schilling, someone needs to let people know they aren't just "opinions". If CheapAudioMan can make a buck selling the worst speakers available, he will do it.
@@scientificaudiophile I completely agree.Randy is 100% getting kick-backs.. This is precisely what troubles me about these influencers - they lack honesty with their audience. While some might argue that they're not forcing their audience into purchases, the reality is that many individuals live far from local HiFi stores. As a result, they heavily depend on these reviewers to offer truthful and transparent insights before investing their hard-earned money.
hy·per·bo·le
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The sony need cabinet work, and even with a new crossovers, the drivers are still junk. Just pay the money for a better speaker to start with like an emotiva b1+, Elac, SVS prime, NHT c3.
Definitely a spicy reaction video. It's great to hear someone with a ruthless, direct, highly critical, unafraid to be seen as mean approach. I really don't think you're going to hurt Randy's feelings. If you don't have a thick skin in the public arena, you need to think about another career. If someone doesn't like your approach, they are free to scroll to another RUclips reviewer. I like and listen to the reviewers you blast, but it's good to be reminded to remain critical. Buyer beware.
This is your RUclips strategy? Attacking other RUclipsrs? You can disagree without making fun of people. Especially when they have 97k more followers than you. Good luck
Exactly
i never needed to listen to those Sony spkrs to know they are bad; a super tweeter in a $90 spkr?!?!? 😅🤣😂 those sony are the same kind of spkrs they have been including in their boomboxes since the 90s 😅🤣😂😅🤣😂 i remember the blue woofer from that "age".
Do you remember the Sony square woofers? offerup.com/item/detail/589539564
To cheapaudioman's defense, beside the usual hyperbole, he refers to the Sony as not worth $200 in many other videos. He is also after sales, being cheap..
Concert fatigue at high volume? Well, there are medical studies that show loss of hearing caused by rock concert.. High sound volume is bad for your health 🤕🤪
You sound like Dr. Fink. ruclips.net/user/shortsg196uqrlblo?feature=share
@@scientificaudiophile I don't oppose you making yourself deaf, as long as it is within your soundproof room. :-)
My comment was more about how this obsession for amplifiers high power will deprive you of the music you love..
Otherwise, get cool, man. The whole world is not there to get you. :-) That rage is not healthy.
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If you think that @cheapaudioman is on the Sony "take", maybe you should spend a bit of time surveying his reviews to see how many Sony products he has reviewed, and how he has reviewed them. Then, provide the results to your viewers.
I would give you the answers, but I prefer that you do your own work...for a change.
Sorry, he's useless.
But even GR research were saying the sony is really good
Even GR Research!
@@scientificaudiophile but he shows the measurement and they are indeed very good
You mean these measurements? audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/sony-ss-cs5-3-way-speaker-review.13562/
@@scientificaudiophile no watch his videos
A speaker that falls apart at higher volumes is like a club sandwich that falls apart when you pick it up:
It's just a nasty mess and you get sauce on your pajamas
I really don't think we need to watch videos like this. I was genuinely giving this guy's opinion a fair share, but the more I watched, the more I realized is just disgruntled and came across more like a personal attack on Chief audio man than about the speaker itself
Agreed. No one should watch videos about someone promoting a terrible speaker. Thanks.
You should buy a pair and review them yourself I know some people love the sonys and that also put a little bit of insolation in and there are some people that love the Klipsch better than the Sonys it all depends on the person's ear and what each person likes you may also get a husband that thinks the expensive speaker sounds better than the cheap and the wife thinks the cheaper speaker sounds better than the expensive speaker
Anyone preferring Klipsch or Sony to a decent pair of speakers doesn't have ears worth listening.
@@scientificaudiophile ruclips.net/video/upVyx7G5T2U/видео.html&feature=shares
@@scientificaudiophile I prefer my klipschorns to most things, but will acknowledge I'm trashy.
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The word is pronounced Hy per bo le Not hyper Bowl
We know, but were weren't saying hyperbole, we were saying hyper bowl.
@@scientificaudiophile Why?
@@MOzarkMike Because when you say hyper bowl you can find out who the English nannies are when they tell you you're not pronouncing hyperbole correctly.
@@scientificaudiophile www.circuitstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/two-stage-class-A-power-amplifier.png. Class A all the way! Make sure you belittle as many people and ideas as you can. You’ll fill up with subscribers. (Or not). Lowering others to elevate yourself means you are starting at rock bottom. if you’re worth a damn you’ll lift others up, not put them down.
Cheap, Y.S.I.G.
I just cancelled my cs5 order, thank you very much sir !
Great 👍
Those are going to have to be some really bad 1,000 dollar speakers
"so, if you want to quit equating quality with price you might want to change the name of your channel from cheap audioman to quality audioman" ❤️
Nice one again! Thx.
So glad to find someone who has the end all “scientific” opinion.
A speaker should have a flat, extended downsloping response. This has been observed time and time again in speaker research. This is not opinion. The sony is far from flat. It also has no bass by this metric. Compared to other options at it's price point it is outperformed. It's bad get over it.
@@NoiseStaticBlur sounds exciting with a decent sub got a good bedroom system for under 600 bucks😈
amazing video
Where do I begin? You must be one of those guys that only looks at charts and ears don’t count. I guess the other RUclips reviewers that touted the Sony are idiots. Examples are Steve Gutenberg and Jay Soulsik. Both did favorable reviews. I bought these speakers for $80 as a present for my son. He listens to classical music and does not play at 90db. He’s thrilled with them. They were a GREAT deal. Your mean spirited treatment of another RUclipsr is in really poor taste. Randy does a lot of real cheap products along with moderately priced gear. He’s also a joy to watch and entertaining vs someone that swallowed a sour ball.
Oh wow, reviewers that are paid to like everything...like everything.
Amazing!
Great video as usual
A person with 500 subscribers hating on a person with almost 100k subscribers, jealous much? Maybe make your own content?
I don't get this. If more followers equals better, dies that mean Lew later is the best tech channel? Is Dave dobrick the best vlogger....often times lowest common denominator stuff is what draws huge followings. I just discovered this channel so I don't know, perfectly plausible this guy is a jerk. But if we just look at follower count, we are asking to get ripped off. More followers equals more partnerships, affiliate links and more financial interest is getting you to consume ....reviewers are supposed to save us money not praise 95 percent of the stuff they get.
This is not hate. But if you're a clueless audiophile you may think that
It's pronounced hy-per-bo-ly
I think you've missed the point in the video and mocking someone is not the way to go. And find out how to pronounce hyperbole BTW.
I must have missed where he showed frequency response changes for the mod. Please let me know the time stamp he showed all those important details. Thanks.
I have the CS5 and Fluance signature $164 /pair and from experience the Fluance blow away the CS5 to my ears.
Maybe it’s because it’s not your ears, the Fluance is just better.