now review the same sony SSCS5 speakers w/ the upgrade kit fr Danny of GR engineering and/ or fr Neil neilblancharddesigns go ahead i dare you ! i double dare you ! LOL 🙂
I couldn't think of anything better than this around 100 bucks, especially here in Japan. It even beats some speakers at 4-500 range imo. I have recommended it to multiple friends and all of them are extremely satisfied. Also I love how for a Japanese brand like Sony it's more expensive to get a pair of CS5s in Japan than in the US.
Yup i got em this week and these speakers are a BEAST. Tho' i do notice the sound charges more to the left speaker i don't know if its my amp and my connections are fine so i have to balance it, have you had this issue?
@@mastervader4444 Well, i don't think so. If you are not experiencing this issue with other pairs of speakers, you should probably contact the seller and have them replace the unit for you.
@@mastervader4444 I've owned three pairs and never experienced this is. Check to see if the high speaker is either blown or just not working. Hoe that helps, you probably have this issue solved by now I'd assume bit just incase
@GlaciaDay How does it outperform speakers in the $400 to $500 price range? I would love to hear your explanation. Speakers are subjective so you have a really good chance of justifying yourself
I bought a pair of the Sony cs5 speakers, they're not bad speakers, I was impressed with how strong they are and sounded when I plugged them with a vintage pioneer amp without a subwoofer. Now I have the speakers plugged with a Sony STR-DH190 receiver and Sony cs9 subwoofer for extra bass. So far I'm happy with the whole Sony setup. Sure it's not the best stereo I've owned, but it's decent and the first brand new system I've bought in a long time. Edit: I just added a pair of the Sony ss-cse Dolby atmos speakers on top of the cs5s just to add a little more voice to my stereo equipment, now I have a Sony 4.1 setup.
Ahhh the kids moved out or the wife and kids too. Miss my vintage equipment too. I'm just getting back to my hobby now since I'm too old for much else. Happy listening I bought the jamo 803s they amazed me when you turn your head to see where the sound came from that impressed me and they are only $139 a pair. Then I stepped up to the jamo c93lls selling cheap now. So good looking and that's my end on speakers till I spend time with them. And at my age I don't have to answer to my spouse. She doesn't tell me where her money goes and really I don't care. She rarely asks me, and I never lie but I've learned after 35 yrs of being together that there are a hundred ways to not answer without lying. Any mans that been married knows what I mean. So I bought the sonys for $73 on Amazon just over a year ago. They dip usually before the holidays to make room for the next boatload arrives and then again dump after the holidays to make space now they are $198 a pair I think that steep but I've got mine for the shed and I'm very happy as it sounds like you are. The jamos are very nice and at $139 a pair a bargain. Just saying. Happy listening.
@@larryh.4629 Similar to you guys, once had the high-end vintage equipment topping it off with Walsh Ohm 4's and have been away up until now for about 15- 20 years. Getting back in the game, and at my age not wanting to go in spending the big bucks, I decided to go back in with the best budget equipment available, I've started with the Sony STR-DH190 receiver and the Klipsch r-41 speakers. After hearing all the hype about Sony SS-CS5 speakers, I just added them to the mix. With all things considered and the components working in concert together in a medium sized room, I give it all a B+. To let it be known for the reason of my previous speaker background reference, I've used Advent, Polk and Walsh/Ohm speakers.
Pioneer BS22s, Miccas and these Sonys have helped to democratize mid-fi Audio....I use the Sonys in near-field setup at my computer desk and along with a 10" sub at my feet, the sound is crisp and clear and can get big.
@@pretol1 overall the Pioneers are my favorite….but they are now discontinued…. The Miccas are the most budget friendly. I like the Sonys and so did my niece so she owns them now 😃
50 years ago it was a hobby. Today it's just people with not that much money bragging about how much money they have. It's silly. That's why I call them "audiophools". I would have loved to have speakers like that for my starter system. What I actually had was a lot worse.
I am not an audiophile by any means and hadn't owned a dedicated system for over 25 years, but I like good sound when listening to music, and recently picked up a second hand Onkyo receiver after getting really fed up with crap sound when listening to music on a little Sony Bluetooth thing. I've been truly shocked how obnoxious some people are. I joined couple Facebook groups, one called budget hifi or something similar expecting people putting together cheap second hand systems that deliver good experience for the money, and instead got snobs who don't consider anything good unless it costs thousands. I don't have that money and frankly wouldn't spend it for how often I use it. I watch some TV with surround sound and listen to some music on RUclips now and then. I researched the crap out the stuff I bought and whilst it's not exactly going to beat systems that cost thousands, for what I paid for it all, which is less than 150 pounds, I got a system that it pretty amazing. Granted, Eltax aren't high end speaker makers but I got some floor standing speakers for 50 and one of their 10 inch sub for 30 and after plenty messing with settings, I'm pretty happy with sound . I simply commented on another post from a user, who had picked up a set of eltax speakers to say that I felt they were decent budget options that were underrated as they're not really known in UK, and was attached by another poster saying they were shit. When I asked him what this opinion was based on, he had nothing, similarly when I presented him with various user reviews and any English reviews from websites that were overall positive on most products, he had no answer. As I said, I'm sure that you can put my system next to speakers that cost 6k and sound will not be as good, but I'm also sure they bloody well shouldn't do, and that the average person if they were put in blind test with both, would not care enough in daily use to spend the money needed to upgrade
They sound best when limited to above 200hz. A minidsp and a midbass module works and sounds great with these. The minidsp will let you do a high shelf filter, tame down the highs by about 1.5db (starting at 700hz) and then it's all smooth.
They definitely sound good down to 80 hz. I have 7 of these in an atmos arrangement with a heavy hitting sub. When I position my atmos speakers and surrounds I listen to each pair in stereo from MLP to make sure they are angled correct if that makes sense. Anyway they sound really good in a square room no matter how high or close to a wall you mount them down to 80 hz in my experience
got a pair at best buy for 129 bucks ,I was impressed with the sound ,yes at high volume they definitely get very bright ,but at mid volume, in a small room, they really sound very good at the price point
Bought a very gently used set that look like new for $75. Wall mounted next to PC monitor and connected to an old AVR. Paired it with a REL 1003 subwoofer and crossed over at 100hz. Sounds excellent now! Total cost $450. AVR=free, Sony speakers $75, REL 1003 sub $350, speaker wall mounts $25. Huge upgrade for PC audio!!
Weak bass? I disagree. The song "Waiting for a Girl Like You (Foreigner) | Lexington Lab Band" has almost the full range of a bass guitar. The song sounds great on the Sony's, actually amazing considering a woofer barely over 5". Also "Tomahawk" by Tigerblood Jewel sounds great.
The SSCS5's bass can be easily adapted to, it's not impressive but it is accurate and realistic enough to blend well with a sub or subs. On their own, they sound fantastic in a near field or in a small room setup.
I'm watching this video right now while listening to it using my Sony SS-CS5 speakers and they do look and sound fantastic. So, bravo to Sony for making great speakers at a very competitive, affordable price.
I have two audio systems and I have a speaker collection. I bought a pair of these for 80 bucks and I love them. I always rotate my speakers out. These things are pretty good for 80 bucks.
I have the Sony speakers for about 2 years now. In Europe it is never on sale. Its build is 100euro. The sound is 200-300euro. I paid 200. I am using a Topping PA3 amplifier. And have been using the Audioquest Dragonfly Black or Oehlbach usb bridge as a dac for a while. BUT with my new TOPPING D70 PRO OCTO...with this dac the Sony speakers really showed the potential. The distance to the wall, is one times the depth of the speaker on a desk.
I drive these speakers out in my garage man cave (24'x24') with a Yamaha R-S202 receiver paired with a Polk PSW-10 sub. Decent sound for a under $400 system. I greatly reduced the tubby bass by simply removing the covers and speakers and placing a 16"x8"x4" thick fiberglass batt between the front interior panel and the port. With the treble control at 0db and bass at 4+db I'm smiling.
Is the port now covered? And did you just attach all this to the previous box? I'm assuming that's what I'm comprehending here. Sounds like a good idea
@@derekmaynard5619 Port is covered using the same enclosure. I suggest you purchase polyester fiber fill if you don't have some fiberglass insulation lying around. It won't make you itch. This cheap cobble worked for my ears and if you don't like the new sound, it's easy to change
The speakers are "great" in the sense that they are extremely satisfying to listen to for around $90! Pair it with a pair of REL's and exceptional electronics and they are entertaining and satisfying in my opinion.
I think these were mainly designed as rear speakers for the whole core series, or atleast to be used with the SACS9. And those wanting in more bass without a subwoofer can go for the SSCS3 towers, also from the same core line...
I like to recommend Kanto passive 5.25” speakers to non audiophiles. They sound great, people come over and think they’re $1K speakers all the time. They do sound good though just a touch of warmth, not fatiguing in the least, and they look good too! I’ve been using them as sound bar replacement speakers, with a subwoofer.
Thanks for the video bro. I have been considering this speaker for 3-4 years and still considering 🙈. I just saw in your video it’s made in Malaysia where I am from, wonder if I can find cheaper deals lol. You crack me up with the audiophile moment. Love your personality somehow reminds me of Ezra The Flash. Keep doing what you do the best
I can tell you why Ive been playing with stereos since my boombox in the 80's growing up in Queens. This evolved into a car audio system (Jeep with 2 15" subs and pioneer seperate components up front) and 2 channel receivers like a 90's sony that was only 200 watts but absolutely rocked the house and ran hot for 10 years until the 5.1 surround sound bug hit. I bought a pioneer 5.1 avr and was sorely disappointed it couldnt drive my heavy box speakers as loud. Anyway flash forward many tower systems, subs and soundbars later and I have more disposable income now for toys. I have a most recently bought a refurb denon 760h i got for $350, 7 of these rcs5 in an atmos arrangement (heights are on the sidewall angled towards me but reflect off the ceiling) with a pb1000 svs sub. All in all 1500 bucks got me the best system Ive ever heard in my life. Absolutely thrilled playing ps5 and apple atmos music blows me away. Cant wait until everything is atmos mixed or to get the new ps5 vr2
Sony : Makes just another random speaker Audiophiles : oooohhhhh aahhh Sony : Why is everyone buying this particular speaker we make 50 different bookshellf speakers we don't even advertise it hard
I was just curious about these speakers but I would not use them in my main rig instead of my Tektons so I bought a used pair and hooked them with an old Pioneer Andrew Jones sub that I had lying around. Sounds fantastic in my garage playing music videos all day long. I would totally see these in a small-medium room setup for a budget system.
Same hype went down with the Andrew Jones Pioneer bookshelves a few years ago. They have good intro audiophile sound too. These are great for $80! A subwoofer or two can help also.
If i recall Andrew Jones started out cheaper too (on monoprice?) an then they went a little more corporate? So that helped that. An when that died down now some people still think monoprice is good; even tho the consensus at first was not that.
Nice rant! I bet that David from Sony would slay even more Goliaths when paired with Sony's matching sub. Keep up the honest vibe. I've been in this hobby for 30+ yrs btw, and I love DIY and turning cheap stuff into Davids.
I own a pair for a while now surprisingly they’re pretty good speakers for the money🔊have them in a 12X23x8 room with great results, great video 👍🏼😁👽✌🏼
Personally I don't use subs at home. My two speakers reach 30 htz, low enough for my taste. But that takes some $$$. Most people would rather get a new iPhone...
Jay paid $200 for his pair of SSCS5. He said he doesn't feel like he paid too much. I just ordered some for Amazon Day, along with the CS9 sub for $253.27 total. I'm going to use it for TV sound with an SMSL amp probably, like an AO200, replacing a Polk sound bar.
I have a pair of these that I bought to replace a vintage pair of EPI-100 speakers in which the foam surrounds on the EPI's 8-inch woofers rotted. I wish Sony had made a slightly bigger version of these that could legitimately go down to 45hz the way the EPI-100s could, as I dislike subwoofers and don't have room for tower speakers. I don't listen at high volume, so it being a party speaker doesn't matter. Also, I think the woofer on the Sony speakers is smaller than they claim it is in the specs because it includes the bigger than expected round plastic circular piece that surrounds the cone.
LOVE this 'no filter' energy and presentation. PEOPLE ... in the audio space / hobby .. need to seriously evaluate their attitudes like they scrutinize ther gear for BEST possible performance... SO? ... What, .. you have flawless sound in your room at home ..but you flood the comment sections and sound off like a POS? ... C A L M - D O W N ... Ya'll AudioPhiliacs make more noise than anyone else in comment sections .. which is the most ironic shit I ever witnessed ... from a hobbyist time chasing the LOWEST noise floor possible in the equipment.. like .. WTF? .. Anyhow .. hahaha... Please, Keep this up .. We could use some more of this fun and entertaining style online .. ( yes.. videos can't present the actual sound - no shit) That's why this is meant for perspective and entertainment .. NOT factual listening examples.. =) ... and I HOPE it rings a bell.. We can enjoy our systems and appreciate how others feel about it without preaching a sermon to everyone else. Cheers dude!!! You got my vote. ...and now Sony owns my favorite video game studio ! Bungie / Destiny 2 ! =)
Got a pair for just under 200 a few weeks ago off Amazon. Sending them back. They are good quality speakers, but I think I overpaid for the sound received. These needed a sub to add and supplement the low frequency. I can only guess that price difference is dependent on location. Guess we have to check different amazon markets for best prices.
Amazon Warehouse has been unloading these for $68 recently so I ordered them. I have no idea what I'm going to do with them yet, I don't even have a real amplifier at the moment but I noticed my Klipsch Promedia satellites are wired so I'll try replacing those. If these handle well I might use them as surrounds when I build a system. I was looking at the waveform of some movies recently and it's surprising how much audio is in the surround channels. They're almost a mirror of the front channels just quieter and it's mostly music.
I use them near field with 50 year sony receiver Str 6060 or another 50 year old, Sansui 2000a. A good combination with these vintage receivers, especially in the mid range.
I wish somebody would do Jerry McGuire reviews on bookshelf speakers. In other words, when coupled with a good subwoofer, they complete them. My question is if you take these Sonys with a good subwoofer do they really sound complete. And please do the same with other bookshelf’s.
I see the speakers but I'm not buying them. You said they are $80 to $100 for them, but AMAZON wants $198. They instantly lost the sale. I'm not paying $200 for an $80 set of speakers.
The days of the $80-100 for these is unfortunately over unless they go on closeout or similar. $125 seems to be the worth grabbing if interested price now
All the issues people have experienced with this brilliant set of speakers is coming from how they've been driven. If you may remember from the Jay's video, he says "It fricking scales!" Do you know what it means? Because these are very cheap speakers doesn't mean you should pair them up with cheap amplifiers. Of course it'd bloat or resonate if you don't pair them up with at least Hegel, Musical Fidelity or similar entry Hi-end stuff. Crossover design and solid build quality of these speakers make it very hard to beat even in USD 1K. Have you ever realized how tonality is mind blowing? Haven't you got goosebumps from the timbre and dynamics it produces? Then you're pairing them up with wrong amplification. This whole Core series speakers are bargain! If you buy tower version of this (SS-CS3) you would not seek for another pair of speakers: Bass is so correct, deep, clear and enough which I'm not satisfied any pricier speakers since 2016 :) yes, this Core series is old but people hyped them in the last couple of years which I've been waiting for a long time. Do you know the components used in them have more quality than some of the cheaper components used in KEF LS50? I don't think so, because you're just seeing them as shitty Sony. They especially focused on how to reduce resonance: Please knock them on the top and see how it's hard as a rock and not hollow at all.
I tested them out, I could not return them fast enough. Mega cheap, I thought the speakers were going to tear themselves apart, horrible distortion above 40% volume.
And now 8 months later they are $198. I bought mine for $73 I didn't need them and really have no need but hey for the shop, hard to go wrong . So far no regrets. And at that price aye how can it be wrong.
got a pair from best buy for about 100 dollars, I was very surprised at the sound ,I have a pair of DCM Time-frame 700s ,thet sound absolutely beautiful, but these little speakers actually sounded very good ,not a lot of bass ,treble was very good
I'm gonna need a sub to play bass (guitar) an electronic an rap music. What should I pair with these? From what you say here sounds like I might want to invest in a crossover to remove ultra low end bass from these? Or is there one in it?
I'm an audiophile and I love these speakers. These are affordable for anyone that's just starting, then you can invest more money into preamp and amplifier. Later on you can add a little mini sub or eventually just buy a more expensive speaker.
Perhaps the problem for "experts" not is the sound... but... it's too cheap..!? And... many of us don't need that super base in our listening at low and a tinnitus-free level....!??
What you show here makes a lot of sense, but is there really no $300 speakers that sounds better to your ears than sscs5 ? What sub $500 speaker+amp (or powered) combo do you recommend for low volume near field in a desktop setup ? Thanks
There is a brand, NHT. stands for, now hear this. Look them up. They are smaller but from what I've researched they achieve far above there size and price.
Unfortunately i just bought them lol. And I am using them almost strictly for my death metal vinyl collection. So I am little bit disapointed now from that sound. I expeted more stronger texture of basses. I will testing it again but I think it was possiblev to choose better boxes for more clear bass tones. Do anybody have the same expirience in this music genre or am I wrong? Thanks
Frankly, if your room is of modest size and you want HUGE value for money, these are a NO-BRAINER! Save your hard earned funds for a DAC, preamp, amp, etc. The SS-CS5 do so many things well that they can leave you smiling and GRATEFUL (!) for hours at a time. If you don't know anything about how to set up speakers and DAMPEN REFLECTION POINTS (hard surfaces where your speakers reflect off windows, walls, etc.), you may find them harsh, but that mostly points to the hidden SS-CS5 potential in the upper registers. No one should expect this speaker to rock the lowest frequencies, as precious few bookshelf speakers do that. If set up correctly, SS-CS5 produce an amazing soundstage, and they will reveal the strengths and distinctive character of your upstream components. I have swapped in three different amplifiers, each showing up differently through the SS-CS5. I frequently compare this system to my MUCH more expensive and elaborate and specifically tuned-in "first" system, with all its mesmerizing tonal color, lifelike impact, etc... etc... I have to say, there is something immensely pleasing in the highly musical small box design captured in the SS-CS5, and if I had to go it without my main rig owing to unforeseen misfortune, I would have this low cost second system with which to while away the hours in utter satisfaction. There really is a point at which it is YOUR ABILITY to tune in and lose yourself that is the point, and I say this after "mastering" my main rig for three years and knowing it can do things that few systems can do.
Easy recommendation, but only at the price for which YOU purchased them. I've looked at these on Amazon for months and months, and every time they're above $200. Right now @$228. @ that price, the value proposition is entirely different. No way are they worth even $175. I love your turtle. I have a small box turtle. Yours could stomp all over mine, lol.
I got mine today for 54.99 Amazon Cosmetic Damage from their Warehouse. They work 100% but 1 of the screens was ripped but that dont matter to me! Very wonderful full sound compared to my other cheaper speakers. Id pay 99.99 for them at most totally worth. If More Id go into Klip brand or others
for not much more you could also buy the Adam t5v monitors. A bit more accurate overall, may not sound as "punchy" in the bass because there isn't a bump there like in the a5+.
@HiFiTurtle No there isn't really unless someone is homeless there is no reason they cannot save another $150! Let's be real here. Can you explain a reason someone cannot come up with the extra $150?
So you dont see a 250% price difference as large? By your logic the regular iPhone wouldnt exist. Theres no barrier to the $200 difference between the regular and pro
Yeah a few things. Would I say these are true HI FI? Debatable…I’d say no…BUT for a budget system for someone getting into the higher fidelity space and you don’t wanna break the bank? Yeah these are a good starting point. When you upgrade speakers and such you also need to consider that when people are getting these super expensive speakers are also upgrading their amps, Dacs all that jazz too. So if you pair these with say a Yamaha A-S301 or a 501 2 channel amp MAYBE better dac if you wanted to and you want a budget High Rez system as a sound bar killer? Under 1000 bux out the door if you include a decent turntable? Yeah I’d say these fit the bill.
And on another note, better sound may not mean more expensive right off the batt…I can’t tell you how many people do not understand that room treatment for their system and how that effects sound quality both positive and negative. Before people jump on the “these speakers suck and I gotta get those 1000 dollar wizzbang specials.” Move your speakers around, if there in a cabinet or next to the wall, move them out into the room a bit. What are they sitting on? Maybe consider isolating them from the surface there sitting on. All these changes can help sound quality quite a bit.
At the end of the day most people just want to enjoy some records or streaming services without going to far into the weeds. And these Sony SsCS5’s will do exactly that. Heck, for 118 bucks….these are pretty cheap so if you want something to tinker around with (yes these are upgradable) you can change out the crossovers and poly caps to better quality components. If you so desire.
Most recently I've seen them come down to $118 on Amazon/Best Buy but also varies on location. I know in Canada and parts of Asia its more expensive/doesn't tend to go on sale
now review the same sony SSCS5 speakers w/ the upgrade kit fr Danny of GR engineering and/ or fr Neil neilblancharddesigns go ahead i dare you ! i double dare you ! LOL 🙂
Talking about speakers without mentioning what amp you're using is like reviewing a lens without a camera If you have some high end equipment they'll definitely beat most of $2000 speakers
From Stereophile's review of the 802D3 "When I tapped and scratched it, the 8" Aerofoil cones sounded considerably more dead, and felt more compliantly mounted, than the 800 Diamond's two 10" Rohacel cones."
I think someone would fare much better to get some KEF q150s on sale or used - might be $100 more than the Sony retail but they’re worth every penny, even at full price. They aren’t far off in sound quality from my q350s and there are few 1-2k bookshelf speakers I’d take over these. A KEF engineer actually said the 150s are about 90% of the sound quality of $1600 LS50 Meta. A true giant killer if there ever was one. I actually prefer the 350s over the ls50s - especially with my amp pairing, a Cambridge CXA81 and SVS SB-1000 Pro sub. Probably the last stereo I’ll ever buy, unless they die before I do.
Loved it ! Haha 😂
now review the same sony SSCS5 speakers w/ the upgrade kit fr Danny of GR engineering and/ or fr Neil neilblancharddesigns
go ahead i dare you ! i double dare you ! LOL 🙂
I couldn't think of anything better than this around 100 bucks, especially here in Japan. It even beats some speakers at 4-500 range imo. I have recommended it to multiple friends and all of them are extremely satisfied. Also I love how for a Japanese brand like Sony it's more expensive to get a pair of CS5s in Japan than in the US.
Yup i got em this week and these speakers are a BEAST. Tho' i do notice the sound charges more to the left speaker i don't know if its my amp and my connections are fine so i have to balance it, have you had this issue?
@@mastervader4444 Well, i don't think so. If you are not experiencing this issue with other pairs of speakers, you should probably contact the seller and have them replace the unit for you.
@@mastervader4444 I've owned three pairs and never experienced this is. Check to see if the high speaker is either blown or just not working. Hoe that helps, you probably have this issue solved by now I'd assume bit just incase
Because the us ones are made in china
@GlaciaDay How does it outperform speakers in the $400 to $500 price range? I would love to hear your explanation. Speakers are subjective so you have a really good chance of justifying yourself
I bought a pair of the Sony cs5 speakers, they're not bad speakers, I was impressed with how strong they are and sounded when I plugged them with a vintage pioneer amp without a subwoofer. Now I have the speakers plugged with a Sony STR-DH190 receiver and Sony cs9 subwoofer for extra bass. So far I'm happy with the whole Sony setup. Sure it's not the best stereo I've owned, but it's decent and the first brand new system I've bought in a long time. Edit: I just added a pair of the Sony ss-cse Dolby atmos speakers on top of the cs5s just to add a little more voice to my stereo equipment, now I have a Sony 4.1 setup.
Ahhh the kids moved out or the wife and kids too. Miss my vintage equipment too. I'm just getting back to my hobby now since I'm too old for much else. Happy listening I bought the jamo 803s they amazed me when you turn your head to see where the sound came from that impressed me and they are only $139 a pair. Then I stepped up to the jamo c93lls selling cheap now. So good looking and that's my end on speakers till I spend time with them. And at my age I don't have to answer to my spouse. She doesn't tell me where her money goes and really I don't care. She rarely asks me, and I never lie but I've learned after 35 yrs of being together that there are a hundred ways to not answer without lying. Any mans that been married knows what I mean. So I bought the sonys for $73 on Amazon just over a year ago. They dip usually before the holidays to make room for the next boatload arrives and then again dump after the holidays to make space now they are $198 a pair I think that steep but I've got mine for the shed and I'm very happy as it sounds like you are. The jamos are very nice and at $139 a pair a bargain. Just saying. Happy listening.
@@larryh.4629 Similar to you guys, once had the high-end vintage equipment topping it off with Walsh Ohm 4's and have been away up until now for about 15- 20 years. Getting back in the game, and at my age not wanting to go in spending the big bucks, I decided to go back in with the best budget equipment available, I've started with the Sony STR-DH190 receiver and the Klipsch r-41 speakers. After hearing all the hype about Sony SS-CS5 speakers, I just added them to the mix. With all things considered and the components working in concert together in a medium sized room, I give it all a B+. To let it be known for the reason of my previous speaker background reference, I've used Advent, Polk and Walsh/Ohm speakers.
Pioneer BS22s, Miccas and these Sonys have helped to democratize mid-fi Audio....I use the Sonys in near-field setup at my computer desk and along with a 10" sub at my feet, the sound is crisp and clear and can get big.
which ones are best from your list?
@@pretol1 overall the Pioneers are my favorite….but they are now discontinued…. The Miccas are the most budget friendly. I like the Sonys and so did my niece so she owns them now 😃
A lot of Audiophiles are snobs. These are a great starter system for someone looking to get into audio. Good video
50 years ago it was a hobby. Today it's just people with not that much money bragging about how much money they have. It's silly. That's why I call them "audiophools". I would have loved to have speakers like that for my starter system. What I actually had was a lot worse.
I am not an audiophile by any means and hadn't owned a dedicated system for over 25 years, but I like good sound when listening to music, and recently picked up a second hand Onkyo receiver after getting really fed up with crap sound when listening to music on a little Sony Bluetooth thing.
I've been truly shocked how obnoxious some people are. I joined couple Facebook groups, one called budget hifi or something similar expecting people putting together cheap second hand systems that deliver good experience for the money, and instead got snobs who don't consider anything good unless it costs thousands.
I don't have that money and frankly wouldn't spend it for how often I use it.
I watch some TV with surround sound and listen to some music on RUclips now and then.
I researched the crap out the stuff I bought and whilst it's not exactly going to beat systems that cost thousands, for what I paid for it all, which is less than 150 pounds, I got a system that it pretty amazing.
Granted, Eltax aren't high end speaker makers but I got some floor standing speakers for 50 and one of their 10 inch sub for 30 and after plenty messing with settings, I'm pretty happy with sound .
I simply commented on another post from a user, who had picked up a set of eltax speakers to say that I felt they were decent budget options that were underrated as they're not really known in UK, and was attached by another poster saying they were shit.
When I asked him what this opinion was based on, he had nothing, similarly when I presented him with various user reviews and any English reviews from websites that were overall positive on most products, he had no answer.
As I said, I'm sure that you can put my system next to speakers that cost 6k and sound will not be as good, but I'm also sure they bloody well shouldn't do, and that the average person if they were put in blind test with both, would not care enough in daily use to spend the money needed to upgrade
They sound best when limited to above 200hz. A minidsp and a midbass module works and sounds great with these.
The minidsp will let you do a high shelf filter, tame down the highs by about 1.5db (starting at 700hz) and then it's all smooth.
They definitely sound good down to 80 hz. I have 7 of these in an atmos arrangement with a heavy hitting sub. When I position my atmos speakers and surrounds I listen to each pair in stereo from MLP to make sure they are angled correct if that makes sense. Anyway they sound really good in a square room no matter how high or close to a wall you mount them down to 80 hz in my experience
I got these a few months ago and when paired with a dedicated bass it's absolutely amazing.
got a pair at best buy for 129 bucks ,I was impressed with the sound ,yes at high volume they definitely get very bright ,but at mid volume, in a small room, they really sound very good at the price point
Bought a very gently used set that look like new for $75. Wall mounted next to PC monitor and connected to an old AVR. Paired it with a REL 1003 subwoofer and crossed over at 100hz. Sounds excellent now! Total cost $450. AVR=free, Sony speakers $75, REL 1003 sub $350, speaker wall mounts $25. Huge upgrade for PC audio!!
Weak bass? I disagree. The song "Waiting for a Girl Like You (Foreigner) | Lexington Lab Band" has almost the full range of a bass guitar. The song sounds great on the Sony's, actually amazing considering a woofer barely over 5". Also "Tomahawk" by Tigerblood Jewel sounds great.
The SSCS5's bass can be easily adapted to, it's not impressive but it is accurate and realistic enough to blend well with a sub or subs. On their own, they sound fantastic in a near field or in a small room setup.
i havent tried these speakers but im sure their great under $200, but for 2ch listing with no subs i stick with my jbl s38s
I'm watching this video right now while listening to it using my Sony SS-CS5 speakers and they do look and sound fantastic. So, bravo to Sony for making great speakers at a very competitive, affordable price.
I have two audio systems and I have a speaker collection. I bought a pair of these for 80 bucks and I love them. I always rotate my speakers out. These things are pretty good for 80 bucks.
Back in the day Sony was quite a respectable audio brand.
I have the Sony speakers for about 2 years now. In Europe it is never on sale. Its build is 100euro. The sound is 200-300euro. I paid 200.
I am using a Topping PA3 amplifier. And have been using the Audioquest Dragonfly Black or Oehlbach usb bridge as a dac for a while.
BUT with my new TOPPING D70 PRO OCTO...with this dac the Sony speakers really showed the potential. The distance to the wall, is one times the depth of the speaker on a desk.
I drive these speakers out in my garage man cave (24'x24') with a Yamaha R-S202 receiver paired with a Polk PSW-10 sub. Decent sound for a under $400 system. I greatly reduced the tubby bass by simply removing the covers and speakers and placing a 16"x8"x4" thick fiberglass batt between the front interior panel and the port. With the treble control at 0db and bass at 4+db I'm smiling.
Nice!
Is the port now covered? And did you just attach all this to the previous box? I'm assuming that's what I'm comprehending here. Sounds like a good idea
@@derekmaynard5619 Port is covered using the same enclosure. I suggest you purchase polyester fiber fill if you don't have some fiberglass insulation lying around. It won't make you itch. This cheap cobble worked for my ears and if you don't like the new sound, it's easy to change
@@rickquinn4916 thank you for the advice
The speakers are "great" in the sense that they are extremely satisfying to listen to for around $90! Pair it with a pair of REL's and exceptional electronics and they are entertaining and satisfying in my opinion.
I think these were mainly designed as rear speakers for the whole core series, or atleast to be used with the SACS9. And those wanting in more bass without a subwoofer can go for the SSCS3 towers, also from the same core line...
The intro cracked me up. LMFAOOOOO
🤣🤣🤣
I like to recommend Kanto passive 5.25” speakers to non audiophiles. They sound great, people come over and think they’re $1K speakers all the time. They do sound good though just a touch of warmth, not fatiguing in the least, and they look good too! I’ve been using them as sound bar replacement speakers, with a subwoofer.
Thanks for the video bro. I have been considering this speaker for 3-4 years and still considering 🙈. I just saw in your video it’s made in Malaysia where I am from, wonder if I can find cheaper deals lol.
You crack me up with the audiophile moment. Love your personality somehow reminds me of Ezra The Flash. Keep doing what you do the best
I can tell you why
Ive been playing with stereos since my boombox in the 80's growing up in Queens. This evolved into a car audio system (Jeep with 2 15" subs and pioneer seperate components up front) and 2 channel receivers like a 90's sony that was only 200 watts but absolutely rocked the house and ran hot for 10 years until the 5.1 surround sound bug hit. I bought a pioneer 5.1 avr and was sorely disappointed it couldnt drive my heavy box speakers as loud.
Anyway flash forward many tower systems, subs and soundbars later and I have more disposable income now for toys. I have a most recently bought a refurb denon 760h i got for $350, 7 of these rcs5 in an atmos arrangement (heights are on the sidewall angled towards me but reflect off the ceiling) with a pb1000 svs sub. All in all 1500 bucks got me the best system Ive ever heard in my life. Absolutely thrilled playing ps5 and apple atmos music blows me away. Cant wait until everything is atmos mixed or to get the new ps5 vr2
Sony : Makes just another random speaker
Audiophiles : oooohhhhh aahhh
Sony : Why is everyone buying this particular speaker we make 50 different bookshellf speakers we don't even advertise it hard
I was just curious about these speakers but I would not use them in my main rig instead of my Tektons so I bought a used pair and hooked them with an old Pioneer Andrew Jones sub that I had lying around. Sounds fantastic in my garage playing music videos all day long. I would totally see these in a small-medium room setup for a budget system.
Same hype went down with the Andrew Jones Pioneer bookshelves a few years ago. They have good intro audiophile sound too. These are great for $80! A subwoofer or two can help also.
If i recall Andrew Jones started out cheaper too (on monoprice?) an then they went a little more corporate? So that helped that. An when that died down now some people still think monoprice is good; even tho the consensus at first was not that.
Nice rant! I bet that David from Sony would slay even more Goliaths when paired with Sony's matching sub.
Keep up the honest vibe. I've been in this hobby for 30+ yrs btw, and I love DIY and turning cheap stuff into Davids.
I own a pair for a while now surprisingly they’re pretty good speakers for the money🔊have them in a 12X23x8 room with great results, great video 👍🏼😁👽✌🏼
Wondering, for a budget stereo, could these sound decent paired with an 8" sub and an amp with tone controls? How to beat that for the $$$ ? Thanks.
Personally I don't use subs at home. My two speakers reach 30 htz, low enough for my taste. But that takes some $$$. Most people would rather get a new iPhone...
Sony does make a matching sub. Certainly can make a very good system with these for under $500
@@HiFiTurtle That IS tough to beat... Thanks.
Sony SS CS5 + Yamaha RN303 … great set up for beginners or those who just want nice music on a tight budget.
Jay paid $200 for his pair of SSCS5. He said he doesn't feel like he paid too much. I just ordered some for Amazon Day, along with the CS9 sub for $253.27 total. I'm going to use it for TV sound with an SMSL amp probably, like an AO200, replacing a Polk sound bar.
I think Sony set the bar again with the SS-Cs5 's .
Damnn my man got pissed 😂.
So good!
I have a pair of these that I bought to replace a vintage pair of EPI-100 speakers in which the foam surrounds on the EPI's 8-inch woofers rotted. I wish Sony had made a slightly bigger version of these that could legitimately go down to 45hz the way the EPI-100s could, as I dislike subwoofers and don't have room for tower speakers. I don't listen at high volume, so it being a party speaker doesn't matter. Also, I think the woofer on the Sony speakers is smaller than they claim it is in the specs because it includes the bigger than expected round plastic circular piece that surrounds the cone.
LOVE this 'no filter' energy and presentation. PEOPLE ... in the audio space / hobby .. need to seriously evaluate their attitudes like they scrutinize ther gear for BEST possible performance... SO? ... What, .. you have flawless sound in your room at home ..but you flood the comment sections and sound off like a POS? ...
C A L M - D O W N ... Ya'll AudioPhiliacs make more noise than anyone else in comment sections .. which is the most ironic shit I ever witnessed ... from a hobbyist time chasing the LOWEST noise floor possible in the equipment.. like .. WTF? ..
Anyhow .. hahaha... Please, Keep this up .. We could use some more of this fun and entertaining style online .. ( yes.. videos can't present the actual sound - no shit)
That's why this is meant for perspective and entertainment .. NOT factual listening examples.. =) ...
and I HOPE it rings a bell.. We can enjoy our systems and appreciate how others feel about it without preaching a sermon to everyone else.
Cheers dude!!! You got my vote. ...and now Sony owns my favorite video game studio ! Bungie / Destiny 2 ! =)
Got a pair for just under 200 a few weeks ago off Amazon. Sending them back. They are good quality speakers, but I think I overpaid for the sound received. These needed a sub to add and supplement the low frequency. I can only guess that price difference is dependent on location. Guess we have to check different amazon markets for best prices.
When you can take a sizeable speaker with one hand ,you know...
Amazon Warehouse has been unloading these for $68 recently so I ordered them. I have no idea what I'm going to do with them yet, I don't even have a real amplifier at the moment but I noticed my Klipsch Promedia satellites are wired so I'll try replacing those. If these handle well I might use them as surrounds when I build a system. I was looking at the waveform of some movies recently and it's surprising how much audio is in the surround channels. They're almost a mirror of the front channels just quieter and it's mostly music.
So what do you recommend in that price point. I bought mine last year for $50 on eBay literally.
My Guitar amp is distorted and I love it. 🎸
I use them near field with 50 year sony receiver
Str 6060 or another 50 year old, Sansui 2000a.
A good combination with these vintage receivers, especially in the mid range.
I wish somebody would do Jerry McGuire reviews on bookshelf speakers. In other words, when coupled with a good subwoofer, they complete them. My question is if you take these Sonys with a good subwoofer do they really sound complete. And please do the same with other bookshelf’s.
I see the speakers but I'm not buying them. You said they are $80 to $100 for them, but AMAZON wants $198. They instantly lost the sale. I'm not paying $200 for an $80 set of speakers.
The days of the $80-100 for these is unfortunately over unless they go on closeout or similar. $125 seems to be the worth grabbing if interested price now
They sound so good.
All the issues people have experienced with this brilliant set of speakers is coming from how they've been driven. If you may remember from the Jay's video, he says "It fricking scales!" Do you know what it means? Because these are very cheap speakers doesn't mean you should pair them up with cheap amplifiers. Of course it'd bloat or resonate if you don't pair them up with at least Hegel, Musical Fidelity or similar entry Hi-end stuff. Crossover design and solid build quality of these speakers make it very hard to beat even in USD 1K. Have you ever realized how tonality is mind blowing? Haven't you got goosebumps from the timbre and dynamics it produces? Then you're pairing them up with wrong amplification. This whole Core series speakers are bargain! If you buy tower version of this (SS-CS3) you would not seek for another pair of speakers: Bass is so correct, deep, clear and enough which I'm not satisfied any pricier speakers since 2016 :) yes, this Core series is old but people hyped them in the last couple of years which I've been waiting for a long time. Do you know the components used in them have more quality than some of the cheaper components used in KEF LS50? I don't think so, because you're just seeing them as shitty Sony. They especially focused on how to reduce resonance: Please knock them on the top and see how it's hard as a rock and not hollow at all.
How does these compare to some vintage hifi speakers? say Infinity RS 3000? Boston A150, Sony SS-TL3....
I tested them out, I could not return them fast enough. Mega cheap, I thought the speakers were going to tear themselves apart, horrible distortion above 40% volume.
I like them because as I get older I need more highs in speech and music.
And now 8 months later they are $198. I bought mine for $73 I didn't need them and really have no need but hey for the shop, hard to go wrong . So far no regrets. And at that price aye how can it be wrong.
got a pair from best buy for about 100 dollars, I was very surprised at the sound ,I have a pair of DCM Time-frame 700s ,thet sound absolutely beautiful, but these little speakers actually sounded very good ,not a lot of bass ,treble was very good
If i buy the speakers what dac should i use?
I'm gonna need a sub to play bass (guitar) an electronic an rap music. What should I pair with these? From what you say here sounds like I might want to invest in a crossover to remove ultra low end bass from these? Or is there one in it?
No high pass filter on these. Could certainly do something custom or DSP. There is a matching sub, the SACS9, but dont know anything about it.
I'm an audiophile and I love these speakers. These are affordable for anyone that's just starting, then you can invest more money into preamp and amplifier. Later on you can add a little mini sub or eventually just buy a more expensive speaker.
Sub-woofer BIC F12 would it work on these speakers ? I'm new yes.
I'm looking for budget speakers and hope these go on sale soon. They are currently listed everywhere at $229 . . .
$119 right now amzn.to/3Hn1PjU (affiliate)
I was curious and for $40 new in box I had to try them. They are just ok but I like my D220`s way better.
Cant beat $40 imo!
I love my Sony's! Does anyone use equalizers anymore?
I do.
how can i get that speaker in uk ?
Perhaps the problem for "experts" not is the sound... but... it's too cheap..!? And... many of us don't need that super base in our listening at low and a tinnitus-free level....!??
What you show here makes a lot of sense, but is there really no $300 speakers that sounds better to your ears than sscs5 ? What sub $500 speaker+amp (or powered) combo do you recommend for low volume near field in a desktop setup ? Thanks
Edifier, Vantoo, or AudioEngine
There is a brand, NHT. stands for, now hear this. Look them up. They are smaller but from what I've researched they achieve far above there size and price.
Unfortunately i just bought them lol. And I am using them almost strictly for my death metal vinyl collection. So I am little bit disapointed now from that sound. I expeted more stronger texture of basses. I will testing it again but I think it was possiblev to choose better boxes for more clear bass tones. Do anybody have the same expirience in this music genre or am I wrong? Thanks
Whats youre opinion about sony ssha-3?
Frankly, if your room is of modest size and you want HUGE value for money, these are a NO-BRAINER! Save your hard earned funds for a DAC, preamp, amp, etc. The SS-CS5 do so many things well that they can leave you smiling and GRATEFUL (!) for hours at a time. If you don't know anything about how to set up speakers and DAMPEN REFLECTION POINTS (hard surfaces where your speakers reflect off windows, walls, etc.), you may find them harsh, but that mostly points to the hidden SS-CS5 potential in the upper registers. No one should expect this speaker to rock the lowest frequencies, as precious few bookshelf speakers do that. If set up correctly, SS-CS5 produce an amazing soundstage, and they will reveal the strengths and distinctive character of your upstream components. I have swapped in three different amplifiers, each showing up differently through the SS-CS5. I frequently compare this system to my MUCH more expensive and elaborate and specifically tuned-in "first" system, with all its mesmerizing tonal color, lifelike impact, etc... etc... I have to say, there is something immensely pleasing in the highly musical small box design captured in the SS-CS5, and if I had to go it without my main rig owing to unforeseen misfortune, I would have this low cost second system with which to while away the hours in utter satisfaction. There really is a point at which it is YOUR ABILITY to tune in and lose yourself that is the point, and I say this after "mastering" my main rig for three years and knowing it can do things that few systems can do.
i disagree, The fact that these speakers are these good at that price is enough to make a 20 minute video...
Easy recommendation, but only at the price for which YOU purchased them. I've looked at these on Amazon for months and months, and every time they're above $200. Right now @$228. @ that price, the value proposition is entirely different. No way are they worth even $175. I love your turtle. I have a small box turtle. Yours could stomp all over mine, lol.
haha I have a small box turtle too. He make an appearance in some other videos :)
I picked up a pair, used for $75 ,Amazon is currently selling them for $228. Using them for my desktop replacing polk r15. They do a much better job.
10/10 turtle intro
How about on your desk. On my pc using a DIY 2.1 amp.
I got mine today for 54.99 Amazon Cosmetic Damage from their Warehouse. They work 100% but 1 of the screens was ripped but that dont matter to me! Very wonderful full sound compared to my other cheaper speakers. Id pay 99.99 for them at most totally worth. If More Id go into Klip brand or others
Basically meaning good garage speakers
What kind of hair gel you used?
Its a brand called Fix Your Lid. I use their styling fiber
These are like $230 now :( I wish I had heard about these when they were on sale for $80 last year
Jay jumped the shark long time ago. According to him everything is “THE BEST” 🙄
These are extremely difficult to find now.
You know I’ve been thinking about getting theese speakers and I just can’t find anything bad about them so 😂 guess ima get them
Gojira love ! Wooo yeah. I have those speakers, pretty good.
Spend some money and get audio engine speakers.They $$ but they are killer
for not much more you could also buy the Adam t5v monitors. A bit more accurate overall, may not sound as "punchy" in the bass because there isn't a bump there like in the a5+.
HAHAHA.... LOVE THIS !! Greatest opening ever. RUN IT!
For $299.00 on sale (and only on sale) the Kef Q150's are a better value in my opinion.
There is a huge barrier between $120 and $300 dollars tbf
@HiFiTurtle No there isn't really unless someone is homeless there is no reason they cannot save another $150! Let's be real here. Can you explain a reason someone cannot come up with the extra $150?
So you dont see a 250% price difference as large? By your logic the regular iPhone wouldnt exist. Theres no barrier to the $200 difference between the regular and pro
Buy the Sony SS-CS5: amzn.to/3Hn1PjU (affiliate)
Bonus internet points if you know what the intro is a reference to
I kid you not, I had these in my system to give me a break from my first gen LS50s and to my surprise I liked them better. That's crazy.
I envy you 😂
@@HiFiTurtle 🤣
Yeah a few things. Would I say these are true HI FI? Debatable…I’d say no…BUT for a budget system for someone getting into the higher fidelity space and you don’t wanna break the bank? Yeah these are a good starting point. When you upgrade speakers and such you also need to consider that when people are getting these super expensive speakers are also upgrading their amps, Dacs all that jazz too.
So if you pair these with say a Yamaha A-S301 or a 501 2 channel amp MAYBE better dac if you wanted to and you want a budget High Rez system as a sound bar killer? Under 1000 bux out the door if you include a decent turntable? Yeah I’d say these fit the bill.
And on another note, better sound may not mean more expensive right off the batt…I can’t tell you how many people do not understand that room treatment for their system and how that effects sound quality both positive and negative. Before people jump on the “these speakers suck and I gotta get those 1000 dollar wizzbang specials.” Move your speakers around, if there in a cabinet or next to the wall, move them out into the room a bit. What are they sitting on? Maybe consider isolating them from the surface there sitting on. All these changes can help sound quality quite a bit.
At the end of the day most people just want to enjoy some records or streaming services without going to far into the weeds. And these Sony SsCS5’s will do exactly that. Heck, for 118 bucks….these are pretty cheap so if you want something to tinker around with (yes these are upgradable) you can change out the crossovers and poly caps to better quality components. If you so desire.
no estoy de acuerdo con la Review, estos Sony con una buena amplificacion suenan como parlantes de mucho mas precio digamos U$ 1500 o mas
What is that gojira t-shirt?
Polk TSI-100’s are real nice bookshelf speakers for $100 to $179.
As of today they are $228 on Amazon. ☹️
Most recently I've seen them come down to $118 on Amazon/Best Buy but also varies on location. I know in Canada and parts of Asia its more expensive/doesn't tend to go on sale
Im in Washington about 115 at best buy
Bro !!!
Can't find them nowhere...
es bueno si, muy bueno diría yo y tengo altavoces de U$4000
In Malaysia i canot find beter speaker for this price. In Malaysia they selling for rm699.
now review the same sony SSCS5 speakers w/ the upgrade kit fr Danny of GR engineering and/ or fr Neil neilblancharddesigns
go ahead i dare you ! i double dare you ! LOL 🙂
i wish to try the crossover kit from GR
Focal headphones, dcs VS 80.$ speaker 🤔
For less than a hundred. I find it enjoyable
call it like it is: a screaming monster, boosted high freq, a speaker for deaf RUclips reviewers 😂😅😂😅
Talking about speakers without mentioning what amp you're using is like reviewing a lens without a camera
If you have some high end equipment they'll definitely beat most of $2000 speakers
Been in this hobby/business for 45 years and never heard Audiophiles tap the cones as a test for anything. We rap the box.
From Stereophile's review of the 802D3 "When I tapped and scratched it, the 8" Aerofoil cones sounded considerably more dead, and felt more compliantly mounted, than the 800 Diamond's two 10" Rohacel cones."
I bought them. They sucked. I sent them back to Amazon the next day.
even WITH the sub?
I think someone would fare much better to get some KEF q150s on sale or used - might be $100 more than the Sony retail but they’re worth every penny, even at full price. They aren’t far off in sound quality from my q350s and there are few 1-2k bookshelf speakers I’d take over these.
A KEF engineer actually said the 150s are about 90% of the sound quality of $1600 LS50 Meta. A true giant killer if there ever was one.
I actually prefer the 350s over the ls50s - especially with my amp pairing, a Cambridge CXA81 and SVS SB-1000 Pro sub. Probably the last stereo I’ll ever buy, unless they die before I do.
Weak bass!
Hahaha, finally some *beeep* humor in the reviews
no estoy de acuerdo con el video, los Sony son impresionantes, que se dejen de marketin caro, este altavoz le da vueltas a otros mucho mas caros.
Didn't you get to actually test running the speaker instead of speaking about it?
The cursing started almost immediately and was a complete turnoff and I wasn’t interested in anything this guy had to say so I moved on