Strained Mother-Daughter Relationships //Uncovered S3E3
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- Who knew Dance Moms could teach us so much about relationships?
Chloe and Christi didn’t speak for 2 months (8:38):
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Christi tracks Chloe tiktok:
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Chloe hung out with Brooke, Paige, Nia and Maddie:
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Chloe tells Christi she’ll take off location services to avoid her mom spying on her:
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Christi says Chloe’s brain is underdeveloped and that she is a bit of a nightmare:
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Christi compliments Chloe:
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Chloe compliments Christi:
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Elliana’s brother, Luke accused Yolanda of mistreating her kids (Trigger Warning!):
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Yolanda and a stretching coach pushed Elliana to tears:
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Yolanda was arrested in July:
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Ellie denies her mom beat her:
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JoJo feels like she is being torn apart from her mom and needs a break:
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The line between JoJo and Jess’ roles get blurry in their relationship:
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JoJo says she’s terrified of her mom:
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Jess forced Jayden to start a musical.ly and to film on JoJo’s channel:
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JoJo hated singing until 2019:
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Jess forced JoJo to sing the national anthem when she was four:
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JoJo didn’t like to dance when she was little:
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Maddie says her mom didn’t care about her and Jack:
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Melissa says Maddie is like a 25-year-old:
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The dining room table incident:
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Abby’s mom kept her away from the dance studio:
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Abby’s mom wanted her to just eat cereal, rather than have a nice breakfast:
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Intro:(0:00)
Christi and Chloe:(0:50)
Yolanda and Elliana:(3:56)
Jess and JoJo:(7:18)
Maddie and Melissa:(10:13)
Abby and Her Mother:(11:18)
#DMUncovered 
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I'm really concerned about Ellie. Especially with her saying "My brother actually did something really really terrible to me when I was 5 years old, that he's continued to do" that's a really scary sentence.
And the fact that people are believing her brother over her- the victim, really scares me as well.
just a really dysfunctional family all around. Even if Yolanda isn't abusive to her, we've seen her behaviour on the show and in that one video where she is pushing Elliana to the point of tears.And of course, the fact that more than one of her family members have been arrested is very alarming
@@kellygal3036 I wouldn't necessarily rule out the possibility of Yolanda being abusive as well. Often times victims of abuse, especially young victims who are suffering at the hands of someone they love and rely on (like a parent), will lie to protect that person. I think its definitely possible that both Yolanda and Elliana's brother are abusive figures in her life. In the very least I'd say Yolanda emotionally abuses her by putting an unhealthy amount of pressure on her and pushing Ellie way too hard, and if her brother has been abusing her since age 5 and Yolanda hasn't done anything about it, then that really says a lot about her too. Either way, its a horrible situation, my heart really hurts for Ellie.
@@nothingpenguin7576 yolanda was just protecting her from her brother and now yolanda and ellie seem to have a very good relationship
@@nothingpenguin7576 no of course, plus not to mention only they know what goes on in their house. I’m just saying maybe it’s not as it seems- but that’s just a guess because I obviously don’t know they full story.
Lowkey Melissa acts more like a big sister to both Maddie and Mackenzie.
In the show or real life?
@@txehyung9856 Real life.
@@Lena-ow5vd for sure
Melissa always striked me as immature and rejecting motherhood to not feel old
I was thinking the same thing. Melissa always said how her and Maddie were best friends, but I was always told growing up from my parents that parents shouldn’t be friends with their kids
Sia is not a older mother figure. She is like a child in a woman’s body who wants to be friends with Maddy.
Agree. I honestly find their whole relationship to be super weird. Like they sleep in the same bed together, and there's so many videos when Sia is just hugging Maddie. Like yeah, you're close, we get it, but it just doesn't feel right, especially alongside the obsessive behaviour.
@@leeelahglitz47 hiiiii again lol 😂
@@davemccarysucks hiiii 😂
She's a groomer.
@@kaitie648 no no that’s not the case
Melissa strikes me as the “I’m not a regular mom I’m a cool mom” sort of person I feel she acts more like a best friend/sister figure more than a mom which I think isn’t healthy and her letting Maddie have these bizarre relationships with adults (Sia & Abby) doesn’t sit right with me
Wait Abby I understand but Sia??
Sia only does nice things for Maddie and she’s been here and we have known her for a long time in the music industry
tbh i just think since maddie is really mature for her age and has been for a while, melissa can focus on mackenzie or herself (she looks so much better and happier since her dm days)
@@bya1281 yeah, check out MackZBoss’ other video about maddie’s role models. it’s really interesting
I honestly think Melissa seems like a nice person and really does believe that she’s doing what’s best, but this is a really, REALLY good point... :/
Jess has been living through Jojo since she was two, from bleaching her hair to fit some aesthetic and beauty standard to going out of her way to make Jojo famous, and she succeeded!
YES even though we may not like them they are all sooo successful!
@@blynsultz1952 agree 💕
You should watch the other video that Mackzboss made about Jess and Jojo. The video will help you realize if Jess was actually living through Jojo
I agree but I think the bleached hair is cause blondes tend to do better for booking jobs, like normally they look for a blonde girl like Abby had said multiple times, I’m not trying to disagree with you I’m just adding that in
@@haydenmays7150 yes that is true
At least Christi and Chloe’s relationship doesn’t seem to be because of fame or the show.
yeah. hearing and chloe and christi was really hard. it lowkey broke my heart cuz chloe was my favorite dancer and christi was my favorite mom. :(
Chloe and Christi love each other a lot if you watch Christie’s video after Chloe left for LA Christi made a video first day after Chloe left she was crying a lot and she said she missed her I think she really loves her daughters
Idk, maybe Christi feels guilty for what happened on the show and what Chloe had to experience for all those years, so like now she's a little controlling because she doesn't want anything bad to happen to her hence wants to be overly protective
Your 999th like, you’re welcome
Yeah I mean their relationship is probably just strained because Christie passed on her unhealthy relationship with food onto Chloe
Poor Ellie, that's a sucky environment either way
Mhm. 😭🤍
She literally verbally abused ellie
That's hat my mom does, I still love her!
@@gabriellafotso9648 it was all set up, yolanda isn’t that crazy lmao
i hope she gets out of that house one day. she deserves so much better
A relationship I’m interested in was Jill and Kendall. How did Kendall feel about her mom trying to shove her in the spot light or how did Kendall react to her mom fighting with Abby all the time. I don’t know. I seemed interested in how Jills reaction has affected Kendall in her late teen years
Yeah I find that interesting too. I hope MackZBoss does a follow up video with more relationships including theirs
Jill also has two other daughters if I’m not mistaken and I think jill and one of these other daughters appeared in another reality show about cheer
@@vanessa__maria710 Her other daughter was on So Sharp a show about a collegiate dance team.
Or lily and stacey or brady and his mom. There was also vivi and cathy.
Yes! I feel like Jill’s actions caused a lot of Kendall’s anxiety
Christi’s behavior is very normal for a mom having a college student for the first time. It’s hard to transition from parenting children and supporting young adults. College kids are adults, but not quite yet ready to be 100% independent (usually). It’s a balance that they will have to figure out. When it starts to become a problem is if chloe is like 25 and the issues are still the same. Until then, it seems like very normal family adjustment periods to me
Edit: i just want to clear up that I’m not saying that christi isn’t being too controlling. She is. I’m just saying it’s normal for parents and kids to need time to figure out what IS appropriate at this stage of life
Is it? My mom has a locator, but she also didn't pry or constantly call or anything. She trusted me. Her saying Chloe had a mean side kinda seemed like it was because Christi is attempting to control an adult not even in the same state as her. A little trust can go a long way when your child is in college and already dealling with so much
Tracking someone who is 18+ is a no no for me.
@@LyraSvalbard my parents didn’t do that for me because I’m the youngest, but i watched them learn those things with my older two brothers. I’ll I’m saying is keep in mind that this is brand new territory for parents. It takes time for everyone to adjust and figure it out
@@TheZombifiedFairy i know that and you know that, but a parent dealing with the emotions and fears of their child being on their own for the first time might not see that right away. And I’m sure chloe being so far away makes it worse. The positive thing is, christi knows she’s too controlling. I’m not saying she’s making all the right choices. Just that it’s normal for parents and kids to need time to figure out how their relationship works as adults. I watched my mom and my oldest brother go through it. It got pretty ugly his sophomore year of college. And my moms not overly controlling, it was just new territory for both her and my brother. But as life continues you figure out how to navigate new stages of life 🥰
@@LavenousForever my parents never did that, not even their oldest child. In fact I don't know any parent who actually does that. Maybe it's normal in America, but it feels totally wrong to me
I think jess was more controlling and forcing when jojo was young, but now they do seem to have a good relationship.
@Xx•Chocopuff•xX UwU YT True, but at least they try to hide a bad relationship unlike the rest💀
True
I think she was just pushing JoJo to do better
I think Jojo is very headstrong, so it works out
@@TexTheBest yes she always stood up for herself
I feel so bad for Eli having to live in such a chaotic environment.
Not just ellie but I ag
she said that it wasn't her mom but when she was younger her brother abused her and did ya know and they were in colorado and he isn't suppose to see them but he showed up at there house and yolanda was trying to get him out of there because he is crazy
@@rosie-jk3rh i know. i feel really bad for yolanda getting all the hate, when its not even her fault. And i meant her brother...
I had no idea. Poor thing.
poor Ellie, no one deserves that 🥺
I honestly don't see Christi as "controlling". I see Christi as a woman who never had a special mother daughter relationship with her own mother and will do the absolute upmost to protect both Chloe and Clara alike.
Doing your ‘utmost to protect your children’ because you didn’t have that experience, may mean that Christi acts based purely off her instincts. Fear can often determine behavior in these traumatized parents, and often it means they can’t even listen to their children so easily. Hopefully it’s not the case with Christi and Chloe but I’m very familiar with these type of relationships forming, and often only when the child has a family of her own does her mother start to calm down and trust her! Or maybe not, depending on whether the mother manages to find peace.
She is a little too much,of course whem Chloe will be older she will appreciate the care but theres another better way to protect your child
There is a reason why her and Chloe didn’t talk for 2 months.
I honestly don't think tracking her is good idea, she's like an adult already and doing this will just drive a big wedge in their relationship
I feel like Christi kind of has the opposite problem of Melissa. While Melissa isn’t strict enough and is more of an older sister to her girls than an actual maternal figure, Christi is overbearing as a mother. Neither are good.
Melissa’s lack of guidance to her kids has led to her kids making questionable choices (vaping, toxic relationships), but at least they became independent and learned from their mistakes. They went through a period of self growth because their mom took a step back and let her kids take the reign.
Meanwhile, Christi is a good mother in the sense that she wants to stop Chloe from making bad choices and she wants to keep her daughter safe, but there has to come a time where Chloe matures on her own. Even on the show, Christi would make a lot of decisions for Chloe and stand up for her without letting her talk for herself. By doing that, she’s stopping Chloe from being independent and learning from her own mistakes. When it comes to the time where Christi isn’t there for Chloe, Chloe might crumble because she’s used to her mother taking the reins for her by tracking her and protecting her. Chloe should be allowed to make her own choices (dying her hair, not being tracked) without being judged.
Just because someone says they aren't being abused, doesn't mean they aren't being abused.
also getting physically beaten is not the only type of abuse. i'm guessing a lot of this will become much clearer over the years when all the girls who are still teens and children grow up.
she’s not being abused tho lmao, ellie wouldn’t just say that or even mention it if she was
@@taylorharvey6091yes bc abusers have never coached their victims to say they weren’t being abused before (sarcasm)
Jess gave birth to a plaything, not a daughter. The hair bleaching was abhorrent and the way she raised her with the notion that she HAD to be a star was just short of abusive in my opinion.
Luckily Jojo has risen to the challenge of fame well and has become an incredibly well adjusted young lady.
JoJo definitely has her moments which feel like they could be from how she was raised. In june she blocked anyone who mentioned the BLM movement on her account and called it “hate” 😬😅 yeah...
I agree with you. I’m sure she was conditioned to eventually like what she is currently doing but her mom is probably like “mommy dearest” behind the scenes. I’m pretty sure when you’re that young and your mother is taking on all those roles at once it severely messes with their psyche.
@@chiara4243 Oof I didn't see her do that. I hope she grows from that attitude and learns a bit more about what BLM was fighting for!
@@breakingfreedom4272 yeah it was not a good look 😬 there’s a RUclipsr called Adam McIntyre who explains the situation if you’d interested!
@@chiara4243 Definitely will thank you!!
Ellie's mum is gaslighting her. I remember one scene she walked in told Ellie they girls are ignoring her and excluding her (they weren't) and Ellie gets into a panic and starts screaming "they're not, they're not doing anything" sent shivers down my spine
.. the woman is controlling and delusional
I agree, Yolanda and Christ-y were the worst moms imo
I think she said they did, but she didn't wanna make it a big deal
@@marvincorre4783 Especially Yolanda
She did admit that she did feel excluded from the other girls but it wasn’t in sense like they were bullying her and she didn’t wanna make it a big deal.
Jess just wants to be famous, so she's pushing Jojo into fame. Like living her dream through her child. If it hadn't been dance moms, she'd probably force her into that toddlers and tiaras kind of crap. Or literally anything to have her daughter famous.
A direct quote from queen holly herself: “I always say take a lead from your child”. I mean it’s obvious jojo didn’t always like the spotlight, but I’m just glad now she does bc she seems happier
@@kellygal3036 yassssss
I think it was more Melissa... she forced Maddie to dance while she was sick, she was upset with Kenzie when this one was too shy singing front of a Broadway producer while she was just 6 years old, she pulled the arm of Kenzie & shouted at her when she couldn't improved against Asia... Like for real, Melissa shocked me a lot during the show ! If Maddie & Kenzie had anxiety, it's not only because of Abby, but also because of Melissa because this one put so so much pressure on both of her kids !
I agree I mean if you just listen to her interviews she admits she never even asked her 7 year old if she wanted to do AUDC and she says she felt bad but then went on to say no jojo loved it blah blah like Jess is kinda a Horrible horrible stage mother.
Christi I feel is just overprotective at times which I’m guessing stems from her childhood because I remember Christi saying on the show her own mother abandoned her I do think Chloe moving out and being on her own has been a hard adjustment for Christi I do hope those issues were resolved and they finally set healthier boundaries
Christi is controlling and toxic
@@saraholivier1349 not really shes a pretty normal mother for the most part just a little overprotective at times which I think stems from her childhood because her mother abandoned her she’s been a great mom to Chloe there is a reason why Chloe turned out really well also literally everyone has toxic traits
Christi is a good mother in the sense that she wants to stop Chloe from making bad choices and she wants to keep her daughter safe, but there has to come a time where Chloe matures on her own. Even on the show, Christi would make a lot of decisions for Chloe and stand up for her without letting her talk for herself. By doing that, she’s stopping Chloe from being independent and learning from her own mistakes. When it comes to the time where Christi isn’t there for Chloe, Chloe might crumble because she’s used to her mother taking the reins for her by tracking her and protecting her. Chloe should be allowed to make her own choices (dying her hair, not being tracked) without being judged.
I agree and with how the world is now I like knowing where my loved ones are and if they are safe.
True and I’m sure it’s hard for all mothers for their children (especially first borns ) to go to college and live independently since you’re so used to them always being around you.
So I think there should be further investigation with Sia and Maddie's relationship. With the movie, Sia making quite outrageous claims with no evidence, and her clear dependance on Maddie. Weird things she has said with no evidence were about her alleged relationship with Shia LeBeouf, claiming Harvey Weinstein tried to get Maddie on a plane, and then her going around in circles and changing her story regarding her movie.
I understand this would be outside the scrope of your channel and totally get if its not something youd be intetedted in doing
There is a video about Maddies relationship w Abby, sai, etc! Really interesting, however I think it didn't cover the Music movie since it was made before that :)
I think that for an episode about the movie we should wait until after the movie is released, things can change a lot until then.
@@emilymuller218 I think there is a video about that!
ikr i remebered when she let lily from dance moms star in move your feet and didnt even meet the kid all she kept bragging about was maddie and i find it really weird and the both of them think its normal its really weird tht melissa allowed maddie to sleep in the bed with Sia thats straight up creepy and weird to put your child in thta positionn this youtuber had a whole video of maddie being friends with grown adults i find Sia really weird tbh its like an obsession
It's important to remember Chloe is an adult now living independently, so if she falls out with her mum and they don't speak for a while that's quite normal, adults don't always get along
The only reason that would happen is because of Christi, though. Christi is trying to take too much control in Chloe’s life.
@@pric4799 its not exactly hathy whatever midlife crisis christu have abiut cloe not wanting ti leave even tho theyve spent WAY to much time together in her early years thats normal to want space
Yes. I’d love to watch the lives of these perfect people and their families.
She said her “kid” and her daughter is 19 her ocd is so toxic my mother would never put location on me
@@kitvwx I’m 18 and my mom always needs to know where I am, but it’s because she has severe anxiety and to keep her from worrying I have my location on. I am completely fine with this because I know she’s just worried about me
Ellie crying while stretching is heart breaking 💔😢 Everyone please keep Ellie’s in your thoughts and prayers, she needs our support more than ever, shame on her brother, for tormenting a 13 year old girl to the point where she has come out about something like that.
@UC4KRi5cvJ233gPIxHYu3m0g nope I mean her brother 💕 he began to spread information with telling the entire truth, and in order to defend herself and her mother Ellie had to open up about some things
At the time she was 8 -12. Still wrong though.
Princess Eleler learn how to spell
@@aldcpaigehylandlover CONGRATULATIONS! you have corrected someone’s spelling on social media
tbh, its pretty normal to stretch like that in the dance and gymnastics world. i think she was in tears because she was pushing herself v hard. its painful but its the only way to get better, almost no one's body naturally bends the way dancers do.
I’m so interested in Melissa and Mckenzie’s relationship behind the scenes because I feel like the producers pushed the favouritism to more than it actually was.
In the Because Mom Said So podcast Melissa actually addressed the favoritism rumors
She jokingly said she actually liked Mackenzie more than Maddie but then proceeded to say she loved her kids equally
i think she favored maddie but i dont think it was concious thing other then two idiot moments calling maddie her best friend in front of mackenzie and after kenzie won saying kenzie looked 7
Kenzie said on live that she never felt less loved that Maddie by her mom and that the show was just heavily edited.
What I do think is that Melissa favoured Maddie’s dance career over kenzie’s, but it has nothing to do with love
So glad you included Jess and Jojo. I get definite narcissist vibes from Jess. I hope Jojo is happy and healthy and doesn't do things just to please her Mom.
Her mom has controlled everything down to dyeing her hair since she was a toddler. It’s the only thing she knows unfortunately which is being controlled and micromanaged.
I feel like jojo and her brother don’t get a choice in fame. It seems like jojo likes it now, but it didn’t always seem that way
I think you should watch the Jessalyn Siwa episode where @Mackzboss explains if Jess was fame hungry it is really interesting and despite your beliefs it kind of goes against what you guys are saying
i'm genuinely scared for Elli. either she was told by her mother to publicly dispute the abuse claims (or she just doesn't realize it's abuse, which is common), or her brother is really just like that. but i mean, her brother had to learn that behavior somewhere. people don't just decide to become violent and aggressive.
I think that even if Elli says she isn't being abused (even though theirs proof or suspicious activity from her family) we should still keep it in mind cause it's better to be safe than sorry
@@michellevillalobos2039 agreed 100%
But soemone km the comments said they commented yolonda on ig
You see how holly and nia is not in this segment ? That’s a healthy black mom and daughter duo for you 😉
It’s not just cuz there black it’s just cuz it’s a healthy mother daughter relationship . And Brooke and Paige seem to have a very healthy mother daughter relationship as well .
@@kkandsims4612 true
@@kkandsims4612 that wasn’t my point. I just wanted it to be known that nia and holly are never in these types of segments
@@essenceanee6913 There are videos ON Nia specifically, I don't think this is about leaving Nia out, it was about portraying the relationships that were troubled. Holly seems to have been a pretty great parent overall and seemed to just want to make Nia happy and well-rounded, so of course they aren't going to be in a video about 'strained mother-daughter relationships', it doesn't apply to them.
@@VegemiteQueen1 exactly which was my point to begin with 😘😘😘 now have a good day luv
while i will always love christi’s role on the show, her comments about chloe just doesn’t sit right with me. why say such mean things so publicly about your own daughter? i would be mortified if my mom ever said something like that to millions of followers.
That’s what I thought as well. I know she’s a public figure, but some things should be kept private
i know christi calls herself an open book but she needs to guard her words a bit. i feel like she’s said things that have absolutely mortified chloe
Everyone is Team Christi and Chloe and Christi knows that. So she brings Chloe into everything she does to maintain her own popularity. Chloe is away at college and wants her independence but Christi is terrified of fading away and not being the center of attention.
@@MW53516imma be honest christi doesnt really have a life outside of dance moms even tho she doesn't LIKE dance moms like thats her brand thats what gets her money chloe on the other hand doesnt need a show to know her talents and brains
Me too.
Christi actually has allowed Chloe to contact Maddie. At the end of that episode they inserted a clip of her saying that she realized it was wrong of her to say that Chloe couldn’t contact Maddie because that wasn’t her decision. They they said that Maddie and Chloe were communicating again and Christi and Melissa were communicating and working on a better relationship.
The thing with Yolanda and Eli though is If the claims that elliannas brother made about her mom controlling her social media were true then how do we know she wasn't coached to say that?
Either way I'm worried about her because it seems like she's in a dangerous situation with no way out.
I don’t know, the tiktok she made feel quite real and talk about some horrible stuff that I don’t even know if her mother would make her post without her consent (have you watched the full ones?)
Funny thing is she never denied or said those claims were true. It's still kinda up in there air rn
ellie isn’t coached to say anything publicly. she’d never make her kid say something that harmful to ellie. i know them both and i can assure you ellie wouldn’t ever be forced or coached to say something like that. her mother is very controlling via her insta but everything else is pretty much ellie only
@@taylorharvey6091 you really don’t know that. it doesn’t matter if you know them or not. plenty of people are abused by their parents without anyone having a clue. unless you live with them and are with them 24/7 you really don’t “know” anything.
@@keepyoureyeswideopen i do tho.. you don’t know me 💀
What ever is going on, ellianna’s family situation seems concerning
The fact that they bleached their 6-10 year old childrens hair (against the kids will) is child abuse
Jess actually started way younger than that, when JoJo was 2.
Yeah I also heard she was like a toddler when her mom started dyeing her hair...
No it’s not lol you’re weird
@@chloelocke2862 Yes it is? Do you know how harmful the chemicals in hair bleach are? Don’t you think it’s weird to control your child to have an artificial hair colour? I get that you’re probably under the age of 13 so the things you say don’t really make sense, but please think before you comment. It’s common sense actually.
@@chloelocke2862 😐
Woah, to be honest I've never thought about this before. We were all so focused on the moms fighting each other, or the moms fighting Abby, that we never really thought that there could have been some strained relationships between mother and child as well. As usual, thank you for your informative videos :)
YESS, the show is so focused on the moms fighting and Abby + the moms fighting so the attention was taken away from the kids and their relationships.
Found you Nina and Marie
@@phoebexedits8549 ahaha hai
Wow, I had no idea about Elli’s home life. What an impressive young dancer to achieve so highly while dealing with all that.
The fact that Christi said to her millions of followers that she hates Chloe's new hair color and that it makes her look old is extremely saddening to me. I'm the same age as Chloe and just dyed part of my hair for the first time, to know that people hate it is the worst feeling. Especially when it's your mom.
That is what really went wrong
The Elianna situation is very serious. I can’t believe she went though that and still goes through life looking happy. I never would have known
Yolanda definitely strikes me as controlling and aggressive so I think her son is telling the truth but I do think Ellie is telling the truth about her brother doing bad things to her and abusing her as well I feel something had to happen to th at boy to make him the way he is. I think The Walmsley Family have some disturbing dark secrets we don’t know of because something is not right there
her brother isn’t telling the truth at all.
Maybe the brother has mental health issues which have nothing to do with his upbringing
eli on her tik tok said her brother isn’t mentally stable and insinuated that her brother might have touched her when she was younger
@@alondraanaya5124 How do we not know that her mom didn't force her to say it?
MackZBoss: "because there was more to ____ than the producers cared to show."
Me: *OOO THERE IT IS*
Most of the footage was doctored for ratings 😒 a lot of stuff was edited to make things see worse than they were. Like when Kira threw the water bottle it looked like she threw it at Jess when really she threw it at a producer
i think christi and chloe have a generally very lovely or normal relationship, and i know dozens of kids whose parents are the same way, it's almost a norm for a lot of people. her saying that about chloe is absolutely just christi, as she always has said whatever has come into her head about herself, or anyone, or anything, but i REALLY wish she would not say that about chloe.
But saying it makes her look OLD she already knows chloe struggles woth her looks and had a saying to bot tear kids down
I don’t think anything Christi has said about Chloe recently says that their relationship is “lovely or normal”
Ellie’s mom seems very very controlling to the point where Ellie’s feelings don’t seem to matter, idk but it all seems off
she’s not as controlling:)
Ye
I was kinda shocked about Christi and Chloe’s..they had a great relationship on the show
It was faked for the show
Honestly, even on the show, I feel like Christi was rather controlling.
Christi is a good mother in the sense that she wants to stop Chloe from making bad choices and she wants to keep her daughter safe, but there has to come a time where Chloe matures on her own. Even on the show, Christi would make a lot of decisions for Chloe and stand up for her without letting her talk for herself. For example, after the whole 2 Sapphires drama, Chloe looked like she was about to go talk to Maddie by herself - she was going to resolve her own problem and clarify things straight from Maddie and set things straight. But Christi cut her off before she could do that and made the choice for her. There were a lot of times where Chloe herself wasn’t upset, but Christi started yelling and throwing tantrums over her, making Chloe and the other girls and moms upset.
By doing that, she’s stopping Chloe from being independent and learning from her own mistakes.
@@pric4799 i feel like her childhood was kinda sucky so she tried to help chloe
I was shocked that Jill and Kendall didn’t make the cut.
@@prettypatrece
They might be in the next video.
Along with Sarah Hunt and Christy and Mackenzie and Melissa.
genuinely very concerned about Ellie, no matter what’s going on at home it’s no good, and she’s always seemed like such a sweet kiddo, i hope she’s okay
it’s a full on archetype the mom that goes through a divorce and starts counting a bit too much on the older daughter to help with the youngest and start treating the older one as a friend to vent about more serious adult topics ( aka Melissa )
Although I love Christi, her being a control freak might be slightly pushing Chloe away.
She is sarcastic, though. Some of her comments might've been dark humor, and not the truth.
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But a lot of fans might not get that. While there are older fans who watch Dance Moms and get into Christi’s channel, there are also younger fans. And those younger fans might not understand that Christi’s just joking and might legitimately think that Chloe is a “little monster,” and the other things Christi says about her.
Christi has to realize that not all the people who are fans of her and Chloe are mature - there are still many children who aren’t old enough to understand dark humor and get off put and get wary of Chloe because of the things Christi says. My little cousin sister used to be a fan of Chloe, but after seeing the things Christi writes about Chloe, I’ve heard her call Chloe a “brat” and “mean” because “she didn’t listen to her mom and made her sad.”
Honestly she could be so controlling because when chloe was young and on the show Christi had zero control
Oooo, do one about if Jill really wanted Kendall to be Rosa Parks or if that was all a plot made by production.
Eboni LeeAnn It was a plot I'm pretty sure Jill opened up about it on a podcast or something that the producers wanted someone to be the one to say and do such ridiculous things and she said she'd play the part
@@yourbias3722 Yeah, I kinda always felt that this was a plot by production.
Thats a plit jill isnt this stupid all the moms were told created drama or dont get paid
I just hope Ellie lives far away from her mom when she moves out.
she is so mature, her voice is so calm and she really commits to this. her investigation is as it should be, she doesn't go with the information she sees at first, and shows us evidence. I see her show for a lil while now, and it amazes me how she can get this info and explain it so well. Good job!👏
I feel most parent and child don’t have the perfect relationship the only relationship that struck me as bizarre was Melissa and her children and the one that struck me as just disturbing is Elliana and Yolanda
I don’t agree with Melissa’s parenting, however I do understand it. I don’t think she expects Maddie to act like a 25-year old, but rather she believes Maddie is at that maturity level. And that is probably why she didnt mind about Maddies relationship with Jack and she is more relaxed with rules. This could also be a reason for Maddie’s relationships with women such as Abby and Sia-because she is mature
Exactly! Maddie as always been quite mature!
That's a bit sketchy, too much maturity isn't a good thing at a young age. Kids and teens are supposed to be able socialize with others in their age groups. Just because maddie seemed mature before doesn't mean she's ready for adult things. Other child stars who've grown up in the spotlight, were considered mature, but are now messed up terribly as adults.
@@cherryblossom7120 I get what you’re saying but you can’t really change the way you are. I have always been mature for my age, which means I almost always hang out with people older than me. I’m 16 and close friends with a 21-year-old at my work; I would rather talk to my teachers than my classmates; I enjoy the company of my grandparents more than most people my age! Just because some celebrities got into drugs, etc. when they grew up does not necessarily mean Maddie will
I agree but it's sad that maddie kind of had to he that matured in the show because if she didn't people would call her a brat
Christi is right. The prefrontal cortex which controls impulse control and decision making isn't fully developed until 24. No matter how adult young people think they are, it's scientifically impossible to be fully mature under 24-25 years old. Unfortunately because of the lack of mental maturity it's nearly impossible to get 18-19 year old "adult" teens to understand that. At Kalani, Chloe, Nia and Maddie age they feel they know everything and feel they're "grown". They don't want to be told what to do and want to make their own mistakes, which is just ignorant but expected. 💁
I think Christi and Chloe have the most normal mother daughter relationship (out of this list) because even if you and your mom get along, you’re always going to get on each other’s nerves and fight nobody’s relationship with their mom/ a mother’s with her daughter is perfect to the point they don’t get into fights
Christi is toxic
that is not normal for a mother deciding what her 19 year old daughter can be friends with tracking her she is a adult and can make her own life choices this is definitely not normal i think nia and holly do or lilly and stacey
Sarah Olivier We get it, you hate Christi, go away.
ROSIEEE Christi isn’t deciding what friends Chloe can make, where did you get that one from. If anything Christi is struggling by her daughter leaving college so she is making sure she is safe, but she doesn’t know how to exactly handle it because she never had a good relationship with her mother. I mean America especially california isn’t exactly safe, they have a murder there 3 times a year.
Not at all. Christi is so petty and it’s clear that she embarrasses Chloe on social media. Christi needs to take a break from social media tbh.
Please do a part two! Kira and Kalani's relationship cause , Kira didnt seem to give a shit about Kalani. Kendall and Jill relationship, Kendall seemed very bratty, and im strictly talking about the way she treated Jill. Nia and Holly, and how thier relationship had a extremely positive effect on Nia. Melissa and Kenzie and the difference in thier relationship than the one she has with Maddie.
OOf, im not used to being this early. Now i gotta watch it twice for the comments
As much as I love Chloe, Christi is quite toxic. She never lets Chloe speak and do things for herself. Christi’s issues I think stem from unresolved trauma from the show. I think Christi is a good mother she clearly did a lot right for Chloe to become the person she is today But while she has done a lot right she’s also been protective of Chloe which is fine but it can easily become suffocating and toxic. Which results into bitterness towards others.
maybe from her childhood? shes mentioned but never ever described that her own mother sort of abandoned her and she had to live with her grandparents?
Agree but I dont love Christi 😂
Chirsti is too controlling and toxic
she’s been a lot better lately though. it appears that she is learning from her mistakes
Completely agree. Christi shares her personal business on the internet wayyyy too much and it's toxic
The way you said that christi said that there was something wrong with Chloe’s brain made it seem like something serious. But what she said was completely accurate. Brains aren’t fully formed until we’re about 25 😂
I love that Nia & Holly have such a great relationship like they are super close!
I'm honestly a bit worried about Maddie, especially with her relationship with Sia. She might be looking for a motherly figure, but something doesn't feel right about them, and given the lately chaos going around with the new movie, and comments of Sia saying that she wouldn't do any of her work if Maddie is were not involved, it seems to me a bit odd even if the intentions are good. It's quite possesive in my opinion.
Welp she really knly gir her mom back at 16 and at 16 most chikdren want a bit kf independence maddie loking to sia fir helo someone who isnt a dancer is concerning lije sleeping ij the same bed
Jill and Kendall are the typical mother/daughter relationship where Jill does whatever Kendall wants and never disciplines her
The clip where Elliana says “my mom never hit me” and then goes on to say how horrible her brother is sounds coached and like she was put up to saying this by her mother. Her mother gives me chills…she also looks up when she’s speaking almost likes she’s trying to remember the story her mom told her to say.
I don't think I truly saw the dysfunction in Christi and Chloe's relationship until she came back for the second time. It was clear that this was more of something Christi wanted than Chloe did. It has also been revealed through some of social media that Chloe suffers from low self esteem and depression. She is in therapy trying to work these things out for herself. I see so much growth in Chloe and I feel that while Christi will always have concerns for her daughter, she does need to let Chloe make some mistakes for herself. True growth will never come without life lessons. That doesn't mean I want Chloe to do anything dangerous. Having said that I do feel that in the case of Melissa, Yolanda and Jess, they have pushed their daughters to become mini adults. Jojo seems to be the most mature of the three. She handles herself well in public and on social media. Maddie and Mackenzie have been given way too much freedom, especially when it came to boys. That has been concerning from the time that Maddie turned 14. I often wonder if Maddie even knew what it was like to be a child. Melissa clearly sees herself as their friend rather than a mother. Yolanda scares me. With her psychotic behavior and outbursts, it concerns me for Elliana. Elliana seems to constantly have to defend her mother and no child should have to be put into that position. We have witnessed Yolanda's outbursts with violence first hand on the show and it very much concerns me what may be happening behind the scenes.
this paragraph sends shivers down my spine and it broke my heart when you said ''I often wonder if Maddie even knew what it was like to be a child''
@@Mel-qs8wx clearky she did becauas dance moms wasnt filming year round but self esteem ussyes is normal
Abby did a segment w Presley where Abby stated that her mom said “she’s not blonde w blue eyes that’s not my daughter” (paraphrased). Her mom didn’t like that she looked like her dad instead of her
Here’s one thing that you missed. Before Eliana did her duet with Jojo on stage. Brynn asked Eliana on who her favorite celebrity is, and Eliana said Selena. Brynn then asks, “Selena Gomez?” Eliana then responds with, “No, just Selena because she knew someone named Yolanda and my mom’s name is Yolanda.” And as a fellow Hispanic, she was referencing the Mexican-Tejano singer Selena Quintanilla who was infamously killed by her former manager and fan club president Yolanda Saldivar after she was accused of stealing money from her fan club. I really hope that Eliana gets the help she needs and also files for emancipation once she gets older.
Jess and Yolanda are the epitome of living vicariously through their children.
Even though the Yolanda allegations haven’t been proven yet please keep Ellie in your prayers. That’s awful for anyone to go through.
JoJo and Jess seem to have such a great relationship. I love how much they respect one another. Being transparent about the different roles they play with business/family has been a great role model for people.
watching this video instead of doing schoolwork 😃
It’s 3:00am for me
Wow. That's disturbing. Christi calling Chloe a nightmare.
I feel like every mom has called their children a nightmare
I hope not. But even so, publicly is different!
@@poisonousjinx9823 yeah I swear like every parent calls their child a nightmare
I disagree every parent I feel says that about their child
There's nothing wrong with saying your child is a nightmare when they are NOT a:
1) respectful, sweet child (by her own admission)
2)a now responsible adult and college student
3) a PUBLIC FIGURE and you're PUBLIC podcast can come back to bite them in the butt later. Not everything should be shared with thousands, if not millions of people world wide.
Could you please a part two with Kira and Kalani, Holly and Nia, Jill and Kendall, Ashlee and Brynn, and Mackenzie and Melissa? Thanks ❤️
Holly and Nia don’t have a bad relationship though.
@@kingofyoutube7981 you’re right, so maybe Christy and Sarah Hunt instead
@@kingofyoutube7981 True but maybe they could be used for contrast, just to give a little update on what they've been up to lately. Kalani and Kira don't seem to have a strained relationship either (I don't really follow them but I hear things occasionally). But Kira has always been that type of mom that will fight her daughter's battles for her (especially on social media). I remember when Kalani was like 14 and had that falling out with the Moffetts and Kira was on twitter talking crap about them. I would have HATED that if my mom did it. Also with the recent criticism Kalani got for being a Trump supporter Kira was the one fighting with people online about it. Kalani is now a full adult.
@@miadavis4837 yeah but that’s the way moms are they will always be at your side and protect you from others who will try and tear you down.
@@bya1281 My mom never got in the middle of my fights with my friends and I definitely would not have wanted her to, especially not when I was 14 or 15 like Kalani was then. None of my friends' parents got in the middle of our arguments either. Actually, once when I was in 6th grade the mother of one of my friends tried to call my mother to talk about an argument we'd had. My mom straight up told her that she doesn't get involved in that kind of thing and hung up. I think that's how parents should behave. Of course, if there's bullying going on or something then the parent has to get involved but they should just let kids sort out their normal arguments between friends on their own.
Finally someone talks about Elliana and Yolanda
I think the common thread in all of these situations is mothers living through their children and treating them like adults then addressing them like children.
For example, Jess would make Jojo song or dance with the reasoning of “I’m your mother so just do it” then when Jojo would be tired(as she was a child); the response would be “you need to grow up”.
Another example is Melissa telling Maddie to “act like a grown up” then threatening to take away her phone when she was upset.
I think now that they’re older, the young dancers are realizing that isn’t normal behavior for a mother and so they add distance. It’s common in dysfunctional houses to have some level of distance. That doesn’t mean you hate anyone. It’s just means we need space to breathe and be our own people.
Ellie’s story breaks my heart and I hope with everything that she can get the help she needs.
chloe and clara have talked about how strict christi can be in the past and i think maybe it was done out of love and protection but the way christi was talking about chloe’s red hair and just her recent past of unhealthy eating just reminds me too much about my relationship with my mom and that’s not great
When another video is posted I stop everything because you work so hard on them and you deserve the views
Not hating on Christi but I do get the vibes that she has a slight jealousy of Chloe and kind of wants to be her. For example in one of the last videos she said she wanted to diet until she could fit into Chloe’s jeans. I’m probably wrong but it is just the vibe I get.
Yeah I agree I think she likes her spotlight
i think christi just has problems with her self-image and body positivity overall, i don't really think that jeans comment that meant she was obsessed with chloe, but rather that she was obsessed with her self-image. (which is mostly negative from what i've seen)
She has a vibe of "i live through my children" or "im a cool mom not a overprotective mom"
@@elisabethfanfan9560 I get that from Melissa.
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Honestly, the only moms I got that from were Jess and Jill. Sometimes Ashlee.
Wait....are we just gonna ignore that eli said her brother did something really bad to her when she was 5 and continued to?.. Sexual assault?
I don’t think so because he was like really young too... but either way it’s really toxic
@@apolloandartemis7981 I agree
No he did she said he took her innocence
To me to summarize everything I just watched I think all these moms love their daughters but the problem is that they either don’t treat their kids right or they just love themselves more.
Anyone else also think Kira and Kalani have a strained relationship too?
Yeah Kalani said she used to fight a lot with Kira they seem to have a good relationship now but idk
I feel like they got closer ngl, at least they seem like it on social media
Ya I think Kira is pretty strict to Kalani
Since the election stuff has been going on and the pandemic they’ve been together together more. Trumpies gotta stick together 🙄 but in serious i think Kalani with her anxiety doesn’t want to stay so much in LA but when the pandemic is over more I’m sure she’ll be back partying
I want to see this
What I learned from this is I would really get along with Chloe.
I’m happy that some of these relationships have gone back to the way they were after the show... The show changed their relationships and that’s not okay, I’m glad they left the show, at least of what has happened over the last year it has seemed not the same but better.
I feel like Kendall and Jill have one of the most interesting relationships from Dance Moms... Jill was forcing Kendall to keep dancing and always tried to get her ahead, despite the fact that Kendall obviously had an anxiety disorder. It wasn’t until season 6 or 7 where Jill realized that she was hurting her daughter by being in the show and you can clearly see the difference in the show.
Jill catering to kendalls childhiod wants instead of foxusing on her needs is the reason for kendalls anxiety and low key brattiness like for example bribing her woth money to win the competition instead if telling her to practice more we already know that relationshio is toxic amd in the later seasons when kendall either has a personality of a spoiled teen or a anxiety ball but for now its best tk assume they've worked on there relation ship
I want a part 2!
Here’s some relationships that I want explained in the next one :
Kira and Kalani
Kelly and Brooke
Cathy and Vivi
Christy and Sarah
Kristi and Asia
Wow, I honestly had no idea that Chloe and Christi’s relationship has had some strains 😯
when she say “there’s more to the story than the producers cared to show” you know shits going to be good
The whole thing with Elliana's brother is terrifying. It sounds like he is the abusive one but is trying to make Yolanda appear as the abuser.
I am shocked so far about Chloe and Christi!!! I would've never thought this happened with them
same
honestly thank you for taking time out of your life to make videos and such detailed videos. you are incredibly good at doing these never stop please!
I have always had this feeling that Melissa was like you know the "wanna be cool mom"
Not Yolanda being bogeyed for the 100th time😂
Its sad to hear about Eli's household, and the amount of work and expectations set at such a young age.
Can we have a video on the boys of dance moms? Im curious to know how they are doing.
As someone who's been in a similar situation to Ellie I honestly believe both sides my mom was abusive which caused both my brother and I to lash out at her at times when it was too much. I have told my mom I wish she was dead, after she told me I was useless and the world would be better off without her. Either way I do believe that Yolanda is abusive to both her children and that needs to be handled
Being your kids friend is by far the best way to parent tho, you actually communicate with them.
Yeah
@@user-pq6rm1be4q I disagree as the majority of time children listen and copy to their friends over parents and it’s not about not being an authority figure but more so being someone who is also a friend rather than someone you hide everything from
Can we take time to appreciate how good Chloe’s red hair looks 👩🏻🦰🥰
Not me watching this with a strained relationship with my own mom-
I think it’s funny how Abby talked about Yolanda living vicariously through Elli when almost every mom on the show has done/did that at some point. It wouldn’t be a show if they didn’t have dramatic people on their and people willing to do whatever it takes.
I love your series! In this particular episode I love that you used it to teach use something and that you put trigger warnings for those who need it. Thank you!
Honestly the Christi and Chloe one really suprised me because I didnt think Christi would be the type of mom to track her kids
Also I really liked how you said stuff we can learn from the relationships!
Christi & Chloe have a normal mother/ college student relationships. She’s knows she controlling and she just needs to let go a bit.
Thank you for continuing to make this series! We should collaborate for a video! We share a lot of the same audience so our audiences would love that!
“Think about what the person in the relationship wants or needs” I needed that thanks
Thank you. Thank you for all these videos the past year, I live for the dance moms series you do😊✌️
RE: Jessalynn & JoJo:
1) It's not easy to be a parent to an intellectually gifted child. Brilliant people will automatically tend to lead others because they think faster and they see more options. How does one successfully parent such a child? With great difficulty.
2) It's doubly difficult to parent a celebrity child when that child is a talented superstar whose performing has led to financial success way beyond that of her parents. Besides having intellectual genius, JoJo is the star and main brains behind her public performances, making her the boss to all her performers. I automatically think of Lady GaGa and Madonna, two other highly successful superstars that also star in their own performances and earn millions of dollars based on their talent alone.
Jessalynn is very talented in her own right. Her artistic gifts are apparent, especially through her creations added to JoJo's costumes and JoJo's Bows. Both JoJo's parents are very intelligent. JoJo inherited the best genes from BOTH her parents
With a gifted child, parents must often take a back seat to the performer, even when much of the talent has been inherited. In Dance Moms, many of the mothers of the performers have a history of similar talents, even when those talents were never formally acknowledged or fully expressed by the parent. This explains those parents who want to live through their children.
I think you should do a part 2 ! With people like Melissa and Mackenzie , Brynn and Ashlee and and others .
Poor Chloe, her Mother watching her every move, and dishing out orders! I left home at 16yrs old, got married at 18yrs and was a Mother at 19yrs old. Girls grow up even quicker these days, and move from home doing further education etc. so it is hard to see Chloe having her Mother interfere in her life telling her what to do!
Omg I’ve just been rewatching dance moms clips! This is great timing