There’s a kimber micro 9 torture test if you have doubts of the kimbers reliability 💀 shot 500 rounds and about 100-150 with dirt poured straight into the action
AFTER I made spacers for my Kimber Micro 9 mags so they functioned correctly all my problems sort of went away..it shoots now..before the mags would not seat or lock in place...it's Sept 2022 and I bought my 6 months ago..took it to the range two weeks ago and the mags keep falling out..all four of them..and the rounds just stovepiped now and then as well...how could Kimber not know this???? Anyway I like my Micro 9..it's small..cool and packs a 9 mm punch...what's not to like..unless you just hate Kimber?
I EDC my micro 9 nightfall in an allen size 00 iwb holster in my right front pocket with no issue. I used to carry an antique iver johnson top break hammerless .32 and feel better carrying my micro 9. I 100% agree about only getting 1 mag!
I am really fascinated by your assertion that these guns won't last as long as the Glock or Shield. Do you have any actual data from other tests or sources? Not trying to dog you on this, but that's a pretty big claim to make and not give evidence to back it up. Same/ same with your reliability claim, both immediate and over time. Do you have any data to support this?
Not going to last that long? Buddy the Glock 43 or M&P Shield will be on it's third lower before you shoot out the other two. The Glocks are like the AK-47 of pistols. The chambers are like big Bertha in that there is quite a bit of tolerance in the loading chamber. That's why you void the Glock warranty if you shoot reloads. What specifically will quite running on the Kimber and Sig?
What makes you think they won't last? I have 2500 rounds through my SIG, and there are no signs of wear on it. And, why "finicky"? I've had two failures to extract, and three failures to feed - all three feed failures with the same ammo - but no other functional issues. Do you think there is much value in the ability to rack the slide with the safety engaged? Being a 1911 guy, I don't use the feature and would prefer a better-shaped safety, instead.
I was going to comment on round count as well, I have well over 2500 rounds downrange and no wear to speak of. I'm still on my original recoil spring, and mainspring. It's a nice carry gun, and I've carried it daily for the past 2 1/2 years. Like what you carry, and carry what you like and it will always perform the way you want it to.
@@tomkane1072 Sorry for the late replies on these. I was not trying to say these are doomed to fail out of the box. In fact I still have not had a problem out of either of these. However these weapons are more likely to have failures down the line or even out of the box than their competition. That is based strictly on the complexity of construction. Quality control becomes more of an issue with handguns like these.
I see no real value in being able to rack the slide with safety engaged. It probably holds value to someone less experienced though. I certainly agree that a more ergonomic safety is what I would prefer.
It'll outlast a Glock in that the lower on a Glock will wear out long before the Metallic/Alloy lower on the Sig or the Kimber. 1). Get video camera. 2) Get firearms. 3) Instant expert.
@@DAN-se8flThey are interchangeable. The P938 7 round extended mag does fit the Micro 9 with a very easy mod. and they are far better than the Micro 9 7 round mags. They are all I use for carry. I do have a handful of Kimber mags, but I only use those at the range. Look into the RUclips video that shows the mod, super easy.
I like the 4 ounces less weight when loaded then polymer pistols in 9mm, easy through in your pocket and go with kimber micro 9mm, I'm not going to a Hollywood gun fight, just shooting the bad guy down at Walgreens, don't need 20 bullets, practice, practice, practice makes perfect, shoot the bad guy before he shoots you, if you don't practice enough then atleast get a green laser grips, Definitely pocket carry with holster my kimber micro 9mm all the time except banks and federal buildings Again practice, practice, practice makes perfect My kimber micro 9mm loves all rounds and grain sizes Now I sat on couch and racked the slide and released it 500 times breaking it in, stripped it, cleaned with breakfree citrus spray, wiped and oiled and lubed
One thing I've noticed in my 50+ years of shooting pistols, the smaller the gun the more finicky they are about the quality and the grain size of the ammo. Owning both of those pistols I can tell you for a fact neither likes 115gr ammo, and neither likes cheap big box store ammo. Reserve that crap for your polymer striker fired garbage that at best will be shot out and worthless in 5 years. Both the Micro9 and the P938 should with proper care last you for a lifetime. Keep them clean and well oiled, buy good quality ammo. Revolver? Revolver? Did I miss something? Did we suddenly return to the 1880's?
This is honestly a really hilarious review. You keep talking about how they are not as reliable as a Glock 43 and that they are known for being finicky. You keep saying that between the two you can't really make a wrong decision, but you wouldn't care either one. I don't think you realize how much double talkin you're doing in this review. LOL. It was very entertaining for me to listen to though. LOL🤣🤣
This is what you get when a hopelessly addicted Glock fanboy reviews ANY other firearms! The Glock is superior in every way and the other guns suck -- that is what is going to happen, and did happen. The review would have been acceptable had he not unnecessarily bashed the Sig and the Kimber.
They arent 1911s tho. The firearm is what I was talking about anyways. The reliable function of these weapons can be pretty hard to maintain. But the 1911 is one of my fav weapons and I literally have nothing bad to say about them.
My carry is a Colt Defender 45 but have 1000's of rounds and maybe around 400 or so Plus-P's shot through the Kimber Micro 9 Nightfall dn . Only upgrade I did was to install the M-CARBO trigger spring kit before the first shot was even taken. 5.9 trigger pull stock...With M-CARBO kit.. average 3.4. Wife has had only 2 rounds malfunction and that was primer issues not one from the mag. No jams. The wife carry's the Micro-9 and shoots weekly with it. SO.. Zips...since you are bias and so in love with glock..get your wife the glock..
Just an observation. Your free to prove me wrong. But I have yet to see one that can maintain a high round count. It is was never built with that in mind, and honestly thats completely fine. If you are familiar with the 1911 and want a smaller option this would be a good carry gun. However it is not a range gun and cannot be expected to shoot "1000's of rounds" like some people claim. I even said in the video that my wife carries it. Which means I obviously trust it enough. Sorry you didn't like the video.
I'll keep that in mind.. for when I magically start making money for doing this haha. Sorry for the poor quality though. I am working on improving my equipment.
Many unfounded statements and generalizations and just his opinions (without any specific backing points). And he never did specifically address the question in the title "Are they still relevant?" Of course you should know by it even being part of the title it's clickbait. I watched because I wondered if it would be a decent review, but it isn't, like he said at the beginning it's just a casual conversational comparison. Like really casual.
Hello.Your video is very clear for my decision.I like micro 9 but u said micro 9 sensitive from some ammo but not happen in Sig right ? That point is very important for me cuz im in Thailand. in my country ammunition is not good quality like America and its very expensive if u want a good ammo. U know both guns is very expensive in Thailand Its cost 3030 buck !! Im not joking. I dont know how much price of p938 and micro 9 in America if they equal What do u choose? Ps. p938 SAS version and Kimber micro 9 raptor is same price at 3030 $ in my country.
People have literally put 1000s of rounds threw these guns no problems or breakages you just don’t know that much about guns. He said we have shot 200 rounds no malfunctions but it will most likely start anytime lol.
Nice to see someone not bash a firearm because it isn’t their preference, everyone has different tastes and different needs. Glad to watch a fair review without the biased opinion that anything but their favorite is terrible.
I sent my P238 to Sig for an ambi-safety and SIG wood grips (replacing the ugly gray ones). Little over $100 but worth it.
There’s a kimber micro 9 torture test if you have doubts of the kimbers reliability 💀 shot 500 rounds and about 100-150 with dirt poured straight into the action
AFTER I made spacers for my Kimber Micro 9 mags so they functioned correctly all my problems sort of went away..it shoots now..before the mags would not seat or lock in place...it's Sept 2022 and I bought my 6 months ago..took it to the range two weeks ago and the mags keep falling out..all four of them..and the rounds just stovepiped now and then as well...how could Kimber not know this???? Anyway I like my Micro 9..it's small..cool and packs a 9 mm punch...what's not to like..unless you just hate Kimber?
I EDC my micro 9 nightfall in an allen size 00 iwb holster in my right front pocket with no issue. I used to carry an antique iver johnson top break hammerless .32 and feel better carrying my micro 9. I 100% agree about only getting 1 mag!
Why say they won’t hold up to a lot of rounds without giving any reasons or explanations?
I am really fascinated by your assertion that these guns won't last as long as the Glock or Shield. Do you have any actual data from other tests or sources? Not trying to dog you on this, but that's a pretty big claim to make and not give evidence to back it up. Same/ same with your reliability claim, both immediate and over time. Do you have any data to support this?
Not going to last that long? Buddy the Glock 43 or M&P Shield will be on it's third lower before you shoot out the other two. The Glocks are like the AK-47 of pistols. The chambers are like big Bertha in that there is quite a bit of tolerance in the loading chamber. That's why you void the Glock warranty if you shoot reloads. What specifically will quite running on the Kimber and Sig?
An ambi-safety is useful for righties too... should one ever need to fire with the left (weak) hand.
Did you say a plastic gun will last longer than an aluminum frame? Only plastic gun I've owned broke right away. It was a Chinese built water pistol.
What makes you think they won't last? I have 2500 rounds through my SIG, and there are no signs of wear on it. And, why "finicky"? I've had two failures to extract, and three failures to feed - all three feed failures with the same ammo - but no other functional issues. Do you think there is much value in the ability to rack the slide with the safety engaged? Being a 1911 guy, I don't use the feature and would prefer a better-shaped safety, instead.
I was going to comment on round count as well, I have well over 2500 rounds downrange and no wear to speak of. I'm still on my original recoil spring, and mainspring. It's a nice carry gun, and I've carried it daily for the past 2 1/2 years. Like what you carry, and carry what you like and it will always perform the way you want it to.
@@tomkane1072 Sorry for the late replies on these. I was not trying to say these are doomed to fail out of the box. In fact I still have not had a problem out of either of these. However these weapons are more likely to have failures down the line or even out of the box than their competition. That is based strictly on the complexity of construction. Quality control becomes more of an issue with handguns like these.
I see no real value in being able to rack the slide with safety engaged. It probably holds value to someone less experienced though. I certainly agree that a more ergonomic safety is what I would prefer.
It'll outlast a Glock in that the lower on a Glock will wear out long before the Metallic/Alloy lower on the Sig or the Kimber. 1). Get video camera. 2) Get firearms. 3) Instant expert.
lol.
Where to start Where to start......wrong wrong wrong 🤦🏻♂️
Good review. Thanks man. :)
All good till you got to 4:00 and see they aren’t gonna last as long as a glock 43 etc. that’s a bullshit statement.
I agree. That was total BS. I quit watching after that.
did you know the magazines are interchangeable ?
Sig is better
Next time you shoot these can you check if the mags are interchangeable ? That would be great and good to know! Thanks
I'll take them to the range tomorrow probably and I will double check. They appear to be interchangeable since they fit. But I will test function.
They do. But the 938 7 round one won't go into the kimber. . I use kimber mags in my p938 and they make a 8 round one..
Cool man thanks for the info
@@DAN-se8flThey are interchangeable. The P938 7 round extended mag does fit the Micro 9 with a very easy mod. and they are far better than the Micro 9 7 round mags. They are all I use for carry. I do have a handful of Kimber mags, but I only use those at the range. Look into the RUclips video that shows the mod, super easy.
Why would that matter? If you can't afford an extra magazine, you can't afford the pistol. lmao
I like the 4 ounces less weight when loaded then polymer pistols in 9mm, easy through in your pocket and go with kimber micro 9mm, I'm not going to a Hollywood gun fight, just shooting the bad guy down at Walgreens, don't need 20 bullets, practice, practice, practice makes perfect, shoot the bad guy before he shoots you, if you don't practice enough then atleast get a green laser grips,
Definitely pocket carry with holster my kimber micro 9mm all the time except banks and federal buildings
Again practice, practice, practice makes perfect
My kimber micro 9mm loves all rounds and grain sizes
Now I sat on couch and racked the slide and released it 500 times breaking it in, stripped it, cleaned with breakfree citrus spray, wiped and oiled and lubed
The Kimber all metal 1911 style won’t last as long as a Glock 43? 🤡
One thing I've noticed in my 50+ years of shooting pistols, the smaller the gun the more finicky they are about the quality and the grain size of the ammo. Owning both of those pistols I can tell you for a fact neither likes 115gr ammo, and neither likes cheap big box store ammo. Reserve that crap for your polymer striker fired garbage that at best will be shot out and worthless in 5 years. Both the Micro9 and the P938 should with proper care last you for a lifetime. Keep them clean and well oiled, buy good quality ammo. Revolver? Revolver? Did I miss something? Did we suddenly return to the 1880's?
Your not kidding. they defiantly need good ammo.
This is honestly a really hilarious review. You keep talking about how they are not as reliable as a Glock 43 and that they are known for being finicky. You keep saying that between the two you can't really make a wrong decision, but you wouldn't care either one. I don't think you realize how much double talkin you're doing in this review. LOL. It was very entertaining for me to listen to though. LOL🤣🤣
This is what you get when a hopelessly addicted Glock fanboy reviews ANY other firearms! The Glock is superior in every way and the other guns suck -- that is what is going to happen, and did happen. The review would have been acceptable had he not unnecessarily bashed the Sig and the Kimber.
Why won't they last as long as a Glock or S&W ???? WTF are you talking about????
interesting to say they wont last long, but the 1911 platform been around for over a century?
They arent 1911s tho. The firearm is what I was talking about anyways. The reliable function of these weapons can be pretty hard to maintain. But the 1911 is one of my fav weapons and I literally have nothing bad to say about them.
@@zipstactical2454 pretty darn close to a 1911
Your not wrong obviously. They are similar. But internally they are different enough.
My carry is a Colt Defender 45 but have 1000's of rounds and maybe around 400 or so Plus-P's shot through the Kimber Micro 9 Nightfall dn . Only upgrade I did was to install the M-CARBO trigger spring kit before the first shot was even taken. 5.9 trigger pull stock...With M-CARBO kit.. average 3.4. Wife has had only 2 rounds malfunction and that was primer issues not one from the mag. No jams. The wife carry's the Micro-9 and shoots weekly with it. SO.. Zips...since you are bias and so in love with glock..get your wife the glock..
No high round count guns??? WTF are you smoking????
Just an observation. Your free to prove me wrong. But I have yet to see one that can maintain a high round count. It is was never built with that in mind, and honestly thats completely fine. If you are familiar with the 1911 and want a smaller option this would be a good carry gun. However it is not a range gun and cannot be expected to shoot "1000's of rounds" like some people claim. I even said in the video that my wife carries it. Which means I obviously trust it enough. Sorry you didn't like the video.
360p resolution in 2019?.... friendly suggestion upgrade video and audio equipment ...
I'll keep that in mind.. for when I magically start making money for doing this haha. Sorry for the poor quality though. I am working on improving my equipment.
@@zipstactical2454 i didnt mean it as an insult man, dslrs are fairly cheap to start out with. Sorry didnt mean to sound rude or anything.
@@Em12k Nah I wasn't offended man. I was just messin. I do have grander dreams for these videos. Just not really a big priority at the moment.
I stopped watching you’re a hater
@@zipstactical2454 and that's all I can do is respect the honesty great job zips 👌🏿
Save yourself the trouble of stressing if these guns are gonna be reliable and go buy yourself a Hellcat!
Many unfounded statements and generalizations and just his opinions (without any specific backing points). And he never did specifically address the question in the title "Are they still relevant?" Of course you should know by it even being part of the title it's clickbait. I watched because I wondered if it would be a decent review, but it isn't, like he said at the beginning it's just a casual conversational comparison. Like really casual.
oof. You seem upset.
His review sucks !!!
Micro 9 TLE is worth a second look.
Hello.Your video is very clear for my decision.I like micro 9 but u said micro 9 sensitive from some ammo but not happen in Sig right ? That point is very important for me cuz im in Thailand. in my country ammunition is not good quality like America and its very expensive if u want a good ammo. U know both guns is very expensive in Thailand Its cost 3030 buck !! Im not joking. I dont know how much price of p938 and micro 9 in America if they equal What do u choose? Ps. p938 SAS version and Kimber micro 9 raptor is same price at 3030 $ in my country.
People have literally put 1000s of rounds threw these guns no problems or breakages you just don’t know that much about guns. He said we have shot 200 rounds no malfunctions but it will most likely start anytime lol.
Do just like to be in front of a camera. BS start to end
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nice to see someone not bash a firearm because it isn’t their preference, everyone has different tastes and different needs. Glad to watch a fair review without the biased opinion that anything but their favorite is terrible.
lol. not gonna last. lol dude. cmon.