New Ruger 5.7x28 LC Carbine - Is it all that and a bag of chips?
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Ruger has added a new carbine to their 5.7x28 product line. It's called the Ruger LC Carbine and of course it chambers the 5.7x28 round. It uses the same magazines as their Ruger 57 pistol and has the same design features.
#Ruger #57 #carbine
For everyone saying "The failures are caused by a full magazine putting pressure on the bolt", you can clearly see it's happening on partially loaded mags and not full mags in the video. There's something else at play. Thank you for the suggestions though! 👍
Federal 5.7 ammo is not standard. FN makes the "standard" ammo for 5.7 and its reliability is legendary. Try running SS197SR and see if you have any failures. Federal's 5.7 is poorly reviewed. Poor crimps, inconsistent charge, etc.
I've had the same issue with my PSA ROCK, I had to send it back and I'm waiting for them to send it back to me so I can see what they say the issue was.
There’s also the fact that if you’re gun can’t reliably feed from a full magazine it’s a trash gun
@@TacticalBeard first generation can be trash they improve the second learning from hitching customers ; cheapest r and d ever
@@NO-zc6oi So saving R&D $$$ by farming it out to customers is worth potentially risking life or limb of aforementioned customers? I'm sure it is financially justifiable, but not so much morally. Perhaps the "man"in the mirror will give you a pass. However, the MAN Upstairs will probably not. But hey,you be the judge...
Shorten the barrel to 8”, add a brace, makes some 30-40 round mags, and call it “5.7 Charger” aka a Mock MP7.
Based on recent Ruger history, you may get your wish. I’d agree that would be more appealing.
That's what I want
fuck yeah !!!! but with a 6" barrel!!
I see where you're going, but at that point, it's just a less compact, lower capacity PS90.
@@sethperry1323 na we need a 5in barrel
Back when I still sold guns, I remember when the Ruger 57 came out; I said that what Ruger needed to do next was come out with a carbine that was magazine compatible with their new pistol...And they finally did it. If the ammo situation ever gets sorted out, (maybe some other manufacturers will start making 5.7x28 as well to bring cost down further?) this thing will literally print money for Ruger.
what would be amazing is if the existing Ruger pistol frame lower could be interchangeable with the carbine upper. THAT would be baller!
Ruger should make ammo too
@@franklindeckard1583 did you just really quote gun show prices Lol I just found a box of 500 for 320 bucks and I actually found some slightly cheaper selling as 20 rd boxes. The prices right now are at the lowest they;ve been for the last few years. I know only because I have a DBX57
@@koopspook yeah I know the difference. Gun shows are always marked up but at times, I can get better deals. I scored plenty of IMI Razer cores recently for 100 dollars cheaper than anywhere I could find online. It’s clearly hit and miss
I'd like to see the 5.7x28mm necked up to 6mm, and case length extended to 30mm. A 6×30mm.
Ironically, that was a proposed cartridge for the M1 Carbine in some R&D phases before The USA entered WW2, but the rest is history with the .30 Carbine.
I like when companies do this. They take parts out of their bins, tweak them a little, and then they ship to market something new at a relatively low cost. You can see components from their pistol and the PC Carbine/Charger. Sure nothing is new, but what is new? Like MAC kinda said, simple is reliable. And Ruger is good at making simple.
The P90 is new, or at least, forever young! For many people it is STILL "too radical", ie new! Until one has actually had a P90 in their hands, you are not really able to understand the ergonomic genius in that firearm! You have to feel it snuggle into your arms to know that! Go to a gunshop and try it! I did! And it works, EVERY time. The P90 has one of the best reliability records, and simplicity of use. NEW isn't always that good, unless, of course, it's an FN!
I think it makes them so cross compatible with parts and upgrades.
I bought one of these a few months ago, and I couldn't be happier with it. It's been to the range with me every time I've gone since. It's super light, accurate, and you can put out a lot of rounds real quick, with very little recoil. It's well-balanced and easy to handle - even for a skinny guy like me! I love it, and I recommend you try it if you haven't already.
This thing would be so sick with a 7” barrel and a 40 round mag. “Poor man’s MP7”
Just as gud reeeee lol 😆
Not with that huge receiver.
Looks like it wouldn't be difficult to make into an SBR, just have to make a different handguard which someone could 3D print or just use a suppressor under the factory one.
with expensive ammo
N hard to find ammo!! Dam!!!!
Those interchangeable mags is really awesome. If they decide to go ahead and make 30-40 rounders, you could just stack 10 mags and have them for both. As for the first round of the mag, it might be mag spring pressure keeping the bolt from completely cycling. Maybe try with a non-full loaded mag?
Thats what I was thinking too
Spring pressure issues are usually not JUST the first round, which is probably why he's baffled. If I had to guess, it might be an issue of grimy oil settling in the gun while mags are being loaded. The first shot possibly loosens up the oil and grime with a shock, dropping the bolt or charging it doesn't have as sharp of an impulse. I have a similar issue due to freezing oil that loosens up after the first shot.
A 5.7 PCC/handgun combo with interchangeable magazines would be a legitimate b00g set-up
Love to see Ruger doing new stuff!
Did they quit the Kel-Tec knock off business?
Seriously that gun is impressive big time
Cool gun but it's weight to power ratio is less than half that of an 85 year old design. (M1 carbine)
I like that manufacturers are starting to use off the shelf parts instead of designing new ones, like the spring and detent in this being from an AR bolt catch, and PSA using a spring and detent from AR takedown pins on the JAKL gas plug.
Can't tell if this is sarcasm
@@DerWaidmann_ no, definitely not. Small easily lost parts that are proprietary suck. I have several of each of those sitting in a box right now.
Watching the video you can see the action cycling, it just isn't ejecting the round. You should do slow motion with an angle more from the rear. With the shot taken at roughly 19:25 you can see a flash of the brass from the 2nd round in the mag. Kind of looks like it is some how riding up, interfering with the ejection and the bolt then rides over it pushing it down. It is the only shot I can really what I believe is the second round flash at all. That or I need more coffee this morning...
I'm getting one of these bad boys,just found one at my local dealer and placed it in 90 day layaway. I know this will be a good squirrel gun and other critters. My dad was a big advocatetor of the 22 magnum and I love it too. Its all about shot placement.
Thank you very much for pointing out the compatibility of the PSA Rock magazines. I've been thinking very hard on getting the Rock and this carbine looks pretty damn decent.
The Rock is a whole lot better looking for the money huh
This is from Palmetto State Armory's website regarding the PSA Rock's magazines:
_While this magazine will fit in a Ruger 5.7 mag well, we cannot guarantee that they will function in a Ruger 5.7 Pistol._
_Due to geometry differences, the 5.7 Rock 23 round magazine will fit in a Ruger 5.7 Pistol as well as our 5.7 Rock pistol, however, function cannot be guaranteed. A 20-round Ruger 5.7 magazine will NOT work in a 5.7 Rock._
The new Ruger 57 Carbine is just what we've always wanted from an upgraded Hi Point Carbine.
My buddy had a 10mm hi point carbine he got for stupid cheap, I wanted to dislike it but after shooting it for a few days it’s pretty decent for what it is.
I just got one, I have only run FN blue tip through it with no issues, with a Suppressor on it as well. It’s definitely a fun and handy little carbine.
Interesting, others have been saying that they should download the magazine which may work. To me, the American Eagle has had QC issues and I can’t help but wonder.
I just picked one up today and took it out in the front yard and fired a few rounds out of it and does it seem to you like this LC carbine has a different sound to it then regular guns.
@@therifleman5611 honestly my hearing isn’t that good to really tell a major difference without the can. Still has the same kinda bark as my Ruger 57
@@mattwalters6834 yea I plan to run some American Eagle this weekend to see if I have the same issue
@@crazyheatrocker interesting
Great video Sir 👍 and I completely agree with you on Gun Smiths always having work because I've been emailing and calling the few Gun Smiths on my side of town in Portland Oregon just to have my Smith & Wesson 39 - 2 serviced or whatever they think it may need and haven't got a response from anyone for months
Every manufacturer should let you run their new guns to see if they can survive a range day with you. Great video!
Got mine 2 weeks ago. Love it! Shoots nice with no issues whatsoever. Open sights were dead on right out of the box. I highly recommend it 👍🏻
Does anyone have a legitimate grouping off a sand bag at 100 yards?
@@joseywales8257 Sorry, don’t have photos, but 1 inch groups all day long! I feel it’s the best 5.7 platform out at the moment. Even better than the PS-90 which I also had, but sold because of this. Can not believe how easily and quickly it breaks down for cleaning.
My first choice and primary ammo is the FN SS197SR 40gr with the Hornady bullet. Tried Fiocci’s similar round, Hyperformance I think it’s called, very similar in performance to the FN SS197SR. Also use some American Eagle 40gr FMJ. I like the FN ammo best with Fiocci a close second.
With the stock folded it looks like a Star Wars gun.
sounds like a magazine issue. perhaps too much tension against the bolt fully loaded to allow the it to cycle. I would try loading only 19 and see if the problem goes away.
He should try it with 19 or 18 rounds in the mag and see if there is any difference. Since he's starting at 20 when the failure happens, he has to additionally load the 19th by hand. It's from 18 down in the mag that everything works as it should.
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I have a Ruger 57 pistol. It occasionally jammed, not on the first round, but on the last round. Very rare for that to happen on the first, though it did a couple times. A firearms instructor at my favorite shooting range suggested tamping the magazine to be certain every round is settled at the rear of the mag. Bingo! The mag has some horizontal play, and if the round is not fully rearward, it will fail to feed. I have no idea if this is at all related to the issue with the carbine, but it's possible.
Tim the demolition man. Found a way to kill it. Companies just need to make you a beta tester and call it a day.
Looks like the Standard Imperial troop's blaster?
Tim, please do a quick size comparison video of this vs the PS90. Obviously 20rnds vs 50rnds, but it seems narrower and effectively the same height since the PS90s optics mount plus optic adds volume where the swept grips removed.
Correct, but the reloads on the Ruger and similar more traditional carbines will be much, much faster and far less prone to mistakes in the process.
PS90 is 2" shorter but way taller. I think it due for a remake
@@TimberwolfCY For jokes: It is probably faster to shoot 50rnds on the PS90 than it is to on the LC Carbine :]
@@melissasmess2773 I do too, FWIW, but FN is one of the most stubborn companies in the world. I mean, ignoring the SCAR, PS90, and minor incremental upgrade of the FiveseveN, think about how long it took for the Hi Power to become the High Power (new version).
@@TimberwolfCY
Reloads on the PS90 is simply a training issue.
Wow, the disassembly of that seems pretty easy and not to mention if you just want something in between a rifle and a pistol that right there would definitely be though go bag weapon of my choice
Would have been nice to see some groups at 25 and 50
FOR REAAAL
Ready for the Charger LC review.
Your first round issue could be the magazine. Try loading one less than what the magazine can handle and see if it happens again.
Also, number your magazines if you have more than one and see if this happens with a specific one. The numbering helps identify bad magazines (as well as confirm nothing is wrong with them).
Over compressed spring will drag on the bolt. Also happens on the Beretta .32.
Bet he never would've thought of this.
@@JSRocker1776 Good chance, it was mainly done to cause more discussion in the comments section.
@@JSRocker1776 "of" is not a verb. You meant "would've" as in "would have", surely. Either that or, "I OF a suggestion...", "I OF always thought...", "You OF got to be kidding..." & "I should OF another beer!"
I thought the same thing. I was going to suggest topping off the mag after chambering the first round to see if 2 rounds would fte.
I remember when my dad gave me a ruger 44mag carbine. It held 4 in a tube mag hidden in the stock. I still have it and it's still like new.
This carbine was a total surprise to me (I never heard about it until last week), but I'm really tempted to buy it. I recently bought an FN Five Seven pistol, after a long internal debate on whether or not to go with the Ruger 5.7 pistol instead. I'm glad I went with the FN, because I love that classic 90's design, but this carbine would satisfy that Ruger itch as well as the PCC itch. As a lefty, I with the ejection port were also ambi, like the Beretta CX4, but it's not a deal-breaker for me. I see this being an early Christmas present to myself (or maybe a Halloween present because I have no patience).
It's your mag!!!! From the spring compressing all the way down don't have the speed to get the first round up
Remove the stock and handguard, shorten the barrel or replace the handguard with a tubular handguard, and now you got a MAC 57
My first thought was "Ruger at it again!" My second thought was "that looks like a Star Wars blaster" and I mean that in the nicest way possible
The internals (bolt, etc.) and disassembly pin remind me of Beretta CX4 Storm. Also the controls are pretty similar. Never had a problem with a CX4 malfunctioning though.
Well Beretta makes a better magazine 😉
Beretta should make a Cx5.7 Storm
I have a CMR30 doing something somewhat similar. Have never figured it out. Doesn't matter how many rounds are in the mag the second round doesn't load. The first ejects just fine but the second just sit in the mag. Only does this with the second no matter how many rounds are in the mag.
Weird. How many rounds have you run through the mags? Might just need more break-in. To save on ammo expense, just load to capacity and pop it in and out (on a closed bolt) over and over and over. That might help, but idk. It sounds like a stiff spring to me.
I've never been a pcc guy. If I want a pdw style firearm with a short barrel I'll go for a 300 blackout. An if I just need something to be compact, like a bag gun, a takedown ar with a cry havoc qrb gets pretty small.
I've thought about guns like the keltek sub 2000. However 9mm doesn't do it for me. If I'm going to go bigger I may as well be more effective while I'm at it.
However 5.7 is in that weird pdw cartridge space that just makes way more since to me. If they make this in a takedown I'd strongly consider getting one.
Although it does depend on the final weight. If it ends up being super heavy like the takedown pc charger I'll stick with a takedown ar.
But you lose all of your advantage with a super short AR. And the 16" barrel on this 5.7 is bringing muzzle velocity to 3000fps. With less recoil, less concussion, less noise, arguably greater accuracy, in a platform that shares mags with your pistol.
An 8-10" AR does none of that, for all that bulk.
But so does a PS90.
Ruger very well may come out with a pistol version, with a 10" barrel, and 40 round mags, which would make this a true pdw.
I absolutely love the 5.7 I pretty much given up on the 5.56 I have an upper 5.7 for one of my AR’s and it’s has a P90 50 round magazine. The ammo is a bit more expensive than 5.56 but with my range finder and optic it can truly reach out and touch someone if I need it to and having a 50 round magazine it means I can carry a lot more ammo with similar results and if I need to penetrate kevlar the 5.7 is a better choice for that.
20:15 Maybe its failure to cycle the first round is due to the magazine causing a malfunction when it's full of ammo.
Purchased one today shot fn brand rounds in it. Not one time did I have a failure. So far so good. Love my new rifle.
This is my dream setup right here. The LC carbine with the 57 pistol to match!
Seems like the stoppage is caused by to much upward pressure on the bolt from the fully loaded magazine.
Looks like a winner. When Ruger did this with the PC carbine back in the 90s it offered a lot of utility, but the execution was anemic. That, and .40 and 9mm ammo at the time was not optimized. This is ready for almost anything you need right out of the box. 5.7 out of a 16 inch barrel offers a lot more performance.
I dunno about the 5.7 but all the stuff I've seen or purchased from Ruger have been really well made. I've also heard their customer service is really good. I've yet to deal with them as I've yet to have any issues with my stuff.
Their customer service was great for me. 👍
If only the finish they put on their pistols was as good as their customer service.
The 5.7 round is twice the price as 9mm. But it's faster, shoots farther, has 30% less recoil, has higher capacity and can penetrate soft body armor that stops 9mm
my SR556C is my favorite rifle
@@ChrisHuppey That’s why I only buy stainless steel Rugers.
People have been asking for a PC Carbine/Charger in other calibers like 5.7x28 for awhile, but this seems like a much more refined platform overall. Maybe we should start pestering Ruger to make this in 9mm.
My thoughts exactly. Instead of the PC Carbine in 10mm as I see often requested they chose 5.7 and a new design with a foldable stock instead of the take down. Still heavy though, and $1K MSRP. And loud as an AR (v 9mm). So I'm not sure I follow the use case. But maybe after more reviews, or I try one myself, I'll see it better.
@@phambelton1 the folding stock is nice, but it's just an attachment on a 1913 rail like many other guns, including the PC Carbine/Charger. The biggest advantages I see are that the LC can be taken down with no tools, and the mag well is in the grip meaning it's several inches shorter than comparable 16" barrel rifles.
As far as the weight goes, blowback guns are always heavier. There are methods to mitigate that extra weight which Ruger clearly doesn't do, but bear in mind they're a mid-grade brand at best. I'm seeing a $960 street price for the LC Carbine. That's not a budget gun, but it's hardly breaking the bank, especially when you compare it to any other 5.7 carbine out there, and it's easily competitive with the majority of PCCs in general. If you've got $1800 for a PS90 you're getting a better gun overall in my opinion, but for a dirty poor like me, there's no way to justify that expense for a boutique caliber.
Great video. I agree with other people. Mabey load one less round. Maybe. Maybe it's slamming the mag in it putting friction or pressure on the firing pin or something and not letting it hit hard enough. My main question is how much velocity gain do you get from the longer barrel compared to the shorter one.
8 no 7
7.5”-10.5” barrel and higher capacity mags like 50-60 round mags whether it be box mags or drum mags. And then add a pistol brace would be a perfect bag gun
Loving the New Ruger Firearms, Ruger has always been a great company to deal with. To get something like this in a 22WMR or even a 22LR would be badass. So what I didn't see from the breakdown of the Rifle, do you have to run your cleaning rod through the muzzle? I hate cleaning rifles that way.
100% Agreed. When necessary, I use a cleaning 'snake'🐍 from breech end though..
Held one in my hands. Very light and handy. Seems like it would be easy to snapshoot.
BUT
Yeah, that muzzle end cleaning is a no-go.
2 words...Bore Snake
And "Made in America"...Joe Biden
A carbon fiber version of this with an upgraded trigger would be so sick. The gun is already lite and fast shooting. With some premium parts you could make it legendary.
The first round issue sounds like a fully loaded mag puts too much pressure on the bolt and the friction causes a short stroke.
Yes. I believe🤔 Hi-Point will be producing a 5.7x28 MAC edition carbine.. ☝️
If it's always the first round try loading the magazine with one less round than a full mag and see if it still happens.
It is a very AR like rifle. Beretta used to make a similar PCC in 9mm. Why did the Ruger make a different looking 5.7mm PCC than the 9mm one? The LC almost looks like one semi auto shotgun . This is almost a bullpup PCC. A mighty handy firearm for those who can afford it. I hope this will be a home run for the Ruger.
I've been so badly hoping that RIA would do this type of combo with their 22 tcm. Have a 9mm conversion spring and barrel and bam. I'd buy that.
I wonder how 22 tcm would compare to the 57x28 in a ballistics test
Same.
@@BAdventures thnx
please compare this LC Carbine to Kel-Tec's P50 "pistol" (also chambered in 5.7x28) for a PDW/bugout/backpack weapon please
That's cool how the carbine and the pistol use the same mags. Too bad 5.7x28 is so expensive.
If we all keep buying the guns and ammo, it will come down even more.
Thanks for a complete review and tear down, nobody else I believe has done so.
It seems 5.7 is experiancing a bit of a rebirth as of late.
I've got a Beretta 21 in 22lr that does the same thing with a fully loaded magazine, download it by 1 and it'll run all day. Probably excessive magazine spring pressure pushing the 1st round up against the bolt while cycling.
That short of a package with a 16.25 inch barrel is just an outstanding design. Makes me wish the army had gone with a bullpup for the new infantry weapon to enjoy a little extra barrel length.
Bullpups just make sense to me. I like them especially after I deployed to Iraq back in 2005. I had an m16A4 and it was lengthy.
I like PCCs with the magazine in the grip... it's like half a bullbup without the extra downward protruding magazine well
This charging handle swap doesn't look THAT bad, especially considering it's not something you're going to do very often, possibly only once or never. I'm much happier that the engineers focused on tool-free takedown as that's something you're going to do all the time. I love my PC Carbine but it's basically an overgrown 10-22, meaning you gotta have those blasted allen keys on hand just to clean it thoroughly.
fuckin A right!!!
The early mk I-III .22 pistols are the hardest thing I’ve ever tried to clean/disassemble. Need three arms.
I totally agree. It's not like it is something you do more than once.
Congratulations, Ruger! You have recreated the M-1 Carbine.
Maybe the spring pressure of a fully loaded mag and even minus 1 in the mag is enough to slow the bolt down. Would it do the same loading less rounds? It shouldn’t, just curious if it does.
I’m really thinking about picking one of these up. I like the look and design and I’m 100% sure Mac is the one with a lemon and the others will all work just fine
The problem is with the magazine followers, remove and sand them down or buy PSA Rock magazines. The problem started with the pistol.
Would love to have one, think its a nice all around package. But probably would never get one because ammo prices are so high for the 5.7x28....
Update: broke down and purchased one. started reloading for it. So glad i caved and purchased it, and decided to reload for it...... Dont let the negative hype detour you from reloading for it either
My first ten rounds went great without an optic. No hang up at all. We got the pistol as well this weekend and no problems.
These were held up at the distribution level and sent back to ruger for a recall level QC failure. I guess this guy just forgot that.
Tim, the Firearm industry obviously benefits greatly from your unique skill.
Have you ever thought of selling said skill to Auto manufacturers?
I'd like to know in advance of the issues my new truck might develop.
Thanks
Did you have 20 or 21 rounds in the magazine when it failed to cycle the first round? Apparently 21 rounds can be forced into these mags which might be causing too much tension on the bolt during the first round cycle.
Try putting less rounds in the mag. I've found that the pressure from the mag spring will cause a drag on the bolt.
I was thinking the same thing, is it possibly mag related. Did it happen using the PSA mag? Was it always on a Full mag?
Good questions. I'd like to know this, too.
The last round to be put in the magazine otherwise known as the first round to fire, will compress the magazine spring the greatest. The first round/first few rounds to fire will be under the highest tension from the magazine spring which probably explains the "squid" on the first shot.
I'm curious, concerning that first round failure to cycle, did you try first down loading magazine by one round and try it? Would it cycle with one less round in the magazine?
I was thinking the same. That's any easy thing to test.
I was thinking this too.
Agreed. Likely the mag spring applying too much upward pressure on a full mag.
Did it do it with the PSA mags?
Back when I bought the Ruger 57, the first thought I had was- "Sure wish Ruger would make a rifle chambered in this caliber, too!" NOT a fan of either triggers, but they do what I need/want them to do!
*VIOLA,* they did! Interchangeable magazines is a definite plus! Now, if-only those mags weren't 'Proprietary' (aka so damned EXPENSIVE!).
Wow, that thing is badass. I really want one. That would be a perfect truck/varmint/home defense rifle. This thing can fit into so many roles. Have a couple drum magazines and some 30 and 40 rounders and you're set. Put like a 1×6 LVPO on it. Damn, I want one. Too bad I live in Commiefornia, I'm guessing this isn't on the roster here... 😞 Oh, and imagine this bad boy in full-auto. 🤪
FWIW Ruger does have a 'state-compliant' and 'capacity compliant' model on their site. I would assume it lacks the folding stock and has a 10-round mag to make it Cali-worthy.
Al Capone enters the conversation with his drum mags.
Ruger does such a great job! As a Californian behind enemy lines they really support us out here with their unique and well made firearms. Thank you Ruger.
It's 2022 and Ruger is still making NEW designs that can't be reached from the chamber end with a cleaning rod. Gotta love it. At least they're consistent.
we have bore snakes now grandpa
Take the stock off and there’s a hole for that.
That 1st round sticks because of the magazine stack notice it does it on the right and not if your last bullet is on the left.try loading the mag the way it jamms
Please let this and the other recent 5.7 guns hitting the market drive the ammo cost down!
i have a dbx57 the ammo is at its lowest its been in years. american eagle stuff is from .65 cents and up. Last year i went from paying 1.40 a round (FN) to earlier this year paying .78 cents a round (AE & FN). 65 cents is definitely good.
@@koopspook .65/rnd is definitely better than it was but not as good as I've seen in the past. When I got my ps90 in 2019 it was pretty cheap like 50 rnd box of American eagle was I think $20 or so. I shot a lot of that but even the fn ammo wasnt that much more and I still have boxes of it that I dont touch haha I still laugh every time I see a 1000 round case of it... so tiny.
@576575s no its not 😂 still 50 box, Used to be 25 up until the last 2 years or so
Hope they make a shorter version in 9mm, love PCC PDWs where the mag feeds from the grip. More companies need to get away from rifle style magwells when pistol ammo is involved, all it does is make the gun heavier and longer than necessary.
Now they need to make a 30 carbine That resembles a 1022!
ALL OF MY YES! The .30 Carbine is a round that really deserves a lot more attention.
A its called an "M1 carbine" theres a buzzing of them
@@raymondmurray6996 10mm is another solid option.
The only reason for non-ejection is non-cycling. The only reason for non cycling is friction. The friction is caused by one of two things:
1) spent casing stuck in the chamber
2) spring pressure excessive on the rounds pushed up from the mag.
As an engineer I opt for #2. Like the posters below said, fill the mag one short. Eliminate that as an issue.
The charging handle swap is definitely obnoxious, thankfully it's something that you're likely to only do once and leave it.
Liking this the more I see of it. Price of ammo and availability are the only thing keeping me from getting one right away
I’d like to see what that 5.7 does to ballistic gel with that extra velocity out of that longer barrel.
Me, too.
There are already ballistics tests with full size ps90s,
PS90 gel tests have been around for literal decades. CMMG's 5.7 AR conversions have also been tested when they came out.
Say what you mean: You want to know what THIS rifle does to velocity and ballistics gel.
@@___meph___4547 I always buy a gun with "what if" scenarios in mind. There's a lot of political tension and violence these days so who knows what the future will bring but hopefully tomorrow will be like yesterday.
@@MagicalTrout The PS90 has a 10.4" barrel. The rest of what you see is a shroud to make it to the required 16". I'd be interested to see if it makes enough of a difference to actually make a difference.
20:22 The magazine, at full load, is putting enough upward pressure on the bolt that's it's slowing / hindering the rearward travel and causing the issue. Under load the magazine and it shouldn't happen - or keep the mag fully loaded for a while and it should wear down enough to solve the problem.
Please do meter testing on 5.7! I’ve heard it’s much louder than other pistol calibers, but no one has ever quantified it.
SS190 has been metered at 160 decibels.
@@deejayimm Some can't internet 🙃
@@deejayimm most any RUclips video can just be looked up bud… I want to see Tim’s process and opinions. Side by sides with other firearms. Suppressed and unsuppressed. There’s more to it than just a number. Thanks though.
@@ParrotTactical OK then don't say no one's ever done it before, because several people have.
@@ParrotTactical the numbers are important because you can’t hear the real difference on a video.
Ruger is doing awesome things. I'm looking forward to your and others' review of the SFAR.
I wonder if there is just a tad bit too much tension on the magazine spring where it's pushing up too hard just enough for that first round.
Yeah. Try loading one less and see if the issue continues.
Totally agree, standard practice with many of us, with any mag, is not to fully load because of spring tension.
I'm curious if the PSA magazines had any issues
That's what I was about to say.
That was my thought as well.
Not really a fan of most PCCs, but I like the look of this - and the round is pretty capable. Hmmm...
I'm curious about the ballistics of 5.7 out of a 16 inch barrel.
They have a lot of ballistic tests with gel, typically with a PS90 with a 16 inch barrel
look fot the ballistics of a ps90
@@MikeyGHA PS90 actually has a 10.4" barrel. What you see is a shroud and the barrel is. inside. I too am interested in knowing whether a 16" barrel will make enough of a difference in velocity to actually make a difference.
Switching the charging handle seems like a pain and I guess it is but it's not difficult. Just has a few steps. Like taking apart a 1911. not a deal breaker. I just bought this carbine 2 days ago and I love it. I do recommend it. One issue tho. I have a 45 degree m-lok mount for my light. It does not fit this gun. If you want to run a light you'll have to buy a small section of pic rail and mount the light to that. Again not a deal breaker.
Now they jus gotta make a shorter version and get the Mp7 market HK is fumbling on. Ruger Rp7 lol
Lol I like that idea
Ripe for the profit.... Just begs for it.
Check out the DBX57.
I just got the carbine, and, I have an Optimus Micro in NFA jail right now. Looks like a decent combo. Hopefully I can get some rounds downrange this weekend.
16 inch barrel is too long for 5.7! Make that a 10,5 inch barrel and it would be great for Home Defense!
Yeah, I'm thinking 16in is well into the diminising return territory.
I would even conceal this with a 10.5 barrel.
Love your content, Sir! I have several Ruger firearms and they will eat anything that I've fed to them. I would have to say that, with a price point near 1K, the firearm should go bang every time. Just my two pennies worth. Thanks again for the no nonsense content
Mac, can you do a in depth round table discussion with the guys from GOA on the brace Amnesty BS???
Just read there monetary fines they have announced and they are obsessive. It's going to take some poor guy getting charged and go through a trial before this gets the attention it deserves legally and politically.
I've wo ok kre my elected officials phones out and have heard absolutely nothing from any of them. I usually get a follow up call from one if them after I call them. They are all out trying to get Re-elected. If they actually called me back, I might actually vote for one if the Sons a Bitches!!!!
It'll fail fast, chevron deference was struck down along with the Benitez ruling it has no legal chance of passing... it'll never be law but rougue agencies will be the issue.
I need this right now!
I have to experience this one on the range! It seems a really impressive platform
Man if that lever mag release was on the 57, it would be perfect.
5.7 ammo prices have gotten down to .42/rd. 5.7 is a fun caliber, not sure I would use it for defense though.
This gun should be priced @ $750 imo
0.42 was before the pandemic and supply chain slowdowns. Cheapest I've seen since 2020 is 0.78/round and I look almost every week.
And every time it happened you had a (Full Mag) that's because the ammo is pushing up on the underside of the bolt, magazine spring tension , Try it without a full mag. You should know this my friend