Derek and the Dominos - Devil Road
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- From The Last Sessions (1971) Studio Quality Outtakes. "Devil Road" (with Rene Armando on vocals). These tracks are outtakes from the second album sessions for Eric Clapton's Derek & The Dominos (w/Bobby Whitlock, Carl Radle and Jim Gordon).
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Just want to make clear what this is: Jim and I were in England to pick up his royalties and his car. We visited Eric (who I had never met) - and who was not doing all that well. Jim and Eric spent most of the time together. I/we wrote this song when I joined them in Eric's studio. I wrote the words and sang the melody, and that's me singing on the cut. I have no idea how anyone got a tape of it.
renee armand, It is a great song , your voice is really great, thank you so much for making this clear as to who this is in this recording. Live long& rock on...
renee armand a beautiful fantastic singing voice you have i also heard you sing lost and the morning after beautiful songs and and a beautiful singing voice awesome
who mixed this?
This story is $100# true.
Well, we are very lucky this tape was found somehow... I wonder how much magical recording like this one are still hidden somehow in studio's archives. It's a pity this wasn't released
Except this jam preceded the release of Stairway by over a year
im a great Clapton fan, i saw him five times live.. i didnt know this record, i dont know there s something strange, im not sure if EC is playng here.. even if the guitarist is so good, but the style looks a little different from mr slowhand, i dont know......
Nicola Gabbas ,,sometimes I dress up like santa,,but im not the real santa...maybe this guy is,? but it's not Eric Clapton
i checked this tune better. It belongs to Substance Vol. 2: Unreleased 2nd Album , i listened and its the same guitar playng, even tough some part are not common for Clapton style, ( i play guitar, especially the unison bending are not Always in Clapton ' playng, common in Carlos Santana playng, but i don t say he s Santana..) at this point coud really be Mr Clapton. Check the Whole albulm...
@@patcoughlin3104 of course It IS Eric
You saw EC a whole 5 times? Oh, man. That's a long way from 'expert' status for you, junior. You're right about something being strange, though. It's the crowd who doesn't seem to know enough history to know who Derek was.
Yo! Paat Boon, you should change the name of the video as this is not Derek and the Dominos and it is misleading. Kind regards.
I have the bootleg CD of the whole session and its not Clapton playing the guitar sorry
It's Duain A. People
@Psychedelic BluesMan What's been confirmed? That it is Clapton or it isn't?
So who is the drummer ?????
gary laubscher jim gordon
John Landers , ok Gordon was playing drums AND piano , don't think that can happen ,Live long & Rock on....
gary laubscher if you no drumming and jim Gordon then u would no its him soons it started just before Erics first solo listen say no more
No One, I think that makes more probable than all other replies , I know this is out of the question but was Ginger Baker still alive at that time ? And maybe hanging out and not mentioned?? Live Long & Rock On...
wha? Ginger Baker is alive, in fact there was just a documentary about him. And no he isn't on this, it's definitely Jim Gordon drumming. No one else played or sounded like him.
Two Clapton fans are listening and we don't think it's Eric.... this sounds to current...I think we would have been aware of this tune... Not from that time period...
musictosoul, if not EC ,then who would play this kind of GREAT guitar . I for one would like to hear who ever is playing like this more , I think it is EC. Unless you come up with a name, I will continue to listen to EC & this song!!!
musictosoul ,,I concur ask Tom Dowd if this was his work,,I'm kinda sure it's not,,and the amps, sm. fender champ & Princeton don't hear um,,a cruel trip on the sonically impaired
To all who wonder, yes, this is Clapton. Singer has confirmed in the past that this was recorded during the attempts to make a second Derek & Dominos album. Possibly his best studio solo and ironically not officially released.
It's Bobby Whitlock
I' m a huge fan of Slowhand, but i had never heard this until just the other day. The wah approach, the bends and the whole technique lead (in my humple opinion) only to EC.. Also, it reminds me of the lives ( Fillmore East etc) from the same period...
Same here.
It’s definitely EC
Speed, rhythm, and melody ranks this piece amongst the best. Just outstanding!
Jim Gordon is the greatest drummer
I agree totally. You have to spend a lot of time listening to his incredible resume on Wikipedia to fully understand how great he was.
Sure has had my attention. More I read about him a mixture of respect and pity, after learning of his murder conviction in the 1980s. Solid.
This is E. C. for sure. All these licks belong to him and I clearly recognize his style. Those days he was young and unpredictable.
Sounds like woman tone to me (tone knob turned down) but not totally convinced it's EC... good song either way...
@@Neonleeroy he's def using a single coil guitar here which won't get that woman tone. he's got a wahwah pedal turned on, with minimal use.
Thats for shure, you're Wise
Mr clapton only managed an inspiration like that with a rhythmic base as insane as the one Gordon and Ridle gave him. They all became one. A single damn Demon in love
It's Eric for sure.. this is Derek and Dominos style playing can tell.
I can not believe this was a throwaway ... and outtake. The singing and playing are off the chart. Why am I just hearing about this song and this singer? Jim Gordon had to be the best drummer of all time.
Agreed. Jim Gordon's one of the most tasteful and skilled drummers ever.
Criminally overlooked
It was recorded after Layla sessions.
It's ec for sure! The Archangel of the century in Mr Santana's words.
That is not Eric, not even close. And it is not just me saying it. It is confirmed by Bobby Whitlock himself.
Bobby was not there and dors not lile thst fact bless hin. Please read the comment from Jim Gordons then wife somewhere in these commemts.
@@redsfanstan2012 yes I did read it. That is not Eric and this is not Derek and the Dominos. Could you for an instance maybe suppose that the comment is "maybe" fake?
Jim just breaks loose. too bad about Jim. he had heart.
@@nufcforlife548
Grow up dickhead.
He had severe schizophrenia..
I finally found it .... Eric Clapton's Freebird.
This is one guitar, and the intricacy is far beyond Freebird
Sorry man but this blows Freebird out of the ducking water!
Damn the playing on this is amazing... precise as a razor, and just blew me away. I can keep up with a lot of his solos but this is just everywhere. For the length of time hes jamming its amazing he doesnt miss a beat or a note.
That's Clapton for you, who is playing is drums??
i thought he was talking about Jim Gordon until the part about solos :D
@@garylaubscher9914 JIM GORDON
@@garylaubscher9914 Not Clapton.
So amazing.. Renee’s voice is beautiful. Can’t believe this didn’t make an album.
This is a beautiful piece of music to be sure. The singer’s lovely voice, moody, honest lyrics and the sparse piano combine to give it a dreamy feel. This bears no resemblance to the Dominos. If EC is playing on this track, it’s a complete stylistic departure. It lacks both the tone and finesse that his reputation is based on. Someone else is playing guitar. The drumming sounds like a Domino’s departure also. More parts and less of the ensemble approach that Gordon was known to favor. Closer to his playing on the early Steely Dan recordings.
It's Eric Clapton playing guitar, I repeat Eric Clapton. Not Jimmy Page, not Dave Mason, not Jesus H Christ, although some may insist he is god. Eric Clapton.
nonelse could play and sound like hm; even jimi, another style.
And Jimi was gone
ruclips.net/video/KPJgtQwtVVA/видео.html Jimi blew him away.
Whose on third?
I think it's Duain A,.
This isn't Derek and the Dominos, and Clapton isn't playing on this track. Go back and listen to live Clapton from the 60s and 70s. Clapton, even under the influence, always sounds like he is the singing the main theme of the song with his guitar. He never noodles and wastes notes like this guy. Even rarities and outliers like the Live Peace in Toronto stuff, or the Blind Faith version of Presence of the Lord, are far more grounded in the blues than this, too.
This sounds like the derek and the dominos live album especially the weird use of a wah to shape tone wich is a perfect match to the fillmore shows
Oui çà ressemble beaucoup au jeu de Clapton sur derek and the dominos in concert enregistré quelques mois plus tôt
This very obviously is not Eric Clapton playing.
What makes you think so? Maybe you're unsure of the meaning of the word 'obviously'?
@@lbzhdsmoked623 this is certainly Claptons phrasing. Listen to his play in Cream. And the way he keeps some of the fast passages a little to long, typical Eric!!
Yes - Very obviously not Clapton. Someone trying to sound him at a much later date. That is not how Clapton plays, and that is not how 1971 sounded. Like a messy Stairway rip-off. Clapton has way more feel and taste than this.
It's a better chance that's Clapton singing. If you can't tell by the leads. Anybody who knows Claptons style knows he doesn't play rhythm behind the singer like this. There is a band on you tube named " Crossroads" it's an Asian band and they sound more like Derek and the Dominos and Eric Clapton then this. Peace.
Amazing vocals and playing-what a great song...some unique EC lead...he never ceases to surprise and amaze
Not Clapton
Man! I don't know how I ended up here. But this guitar player is amazing!!!!!
Definitely Eric. He really rocked the wah-wah around that time. A bit like "Presence of the Lord," don't you think?
Also on George Harrison's album....art of dying is a good example
Absolutely
That is what I thought, I sounds like his Blind Faith era, especially Well All Right and Presence of the Lord, both off of the Blind Faith LP
It sounds like something that could have been on The Rain Book, Renee Armand’s 1972 solo album which was produced by Jim Gordon.
Nobody plays guitar quite like that.. El Clapto "god"
Awesome discovery! The vocals are beautiful, the voice and melody Joni-esque, the drums remind me why Jim is one of my all-time favorite drummers, and Clapton's solo is poignant. Well-mixed, too. I think it shows the new direction the band was about to take: less wild but no less driven. A gem of a song!
Not Clapton.
@@bobcabo4509Totaly disagree. Sounds like Clapton in rough physical shape. Before he basically cleaned up.
@@jhrdlr Suit yourself. I still say no.
One of Clapton's masterpieces
For sure Clapton, I've listened to hundreds of hours of him playing ...Clapton on fire as usual :-)
Except it’s not EC. Bobby Whitlock has confirmed it’s not him.
Not Clapton
Wowee... Never heard this gem before... Thanks for posting!
Sad that DD only put out 1 album. Shocking that this is called an outtake. Have played this without end.
RIP JG
Jim Gordon also played the drums for the Carpenters.
Without a doubt, Clapton's finest guitar work. Drums were amazing too. So incredible.
Thats for shure
@@Francis-The-Talking-Mule , it's not Clapton. It's kind of a cross between Terry Kath and Stephen Stills.
@@insomniatique4214 I think it may be Dean Parks-there are some licks that sound close to what he played with Steely Dan. Yeah, there is Kath's type of phrasing there but Parks also phrased like that as well.
It’s not Clapton on guitar; Bobby Whitlock has confirmed it.
Not Clapton
First, thanks, Renee, for the insight. I've been studying Jim's playing for years, and this is a great example of Jim at his best. So, to clear any confusion up: Renee on vocals (obviously), definitely Jim on drums (I am sure of it), sounds like Clapton on guitar, and sure sounds like Radle on bass. Any Whitlock experts could chime in on who is playing piano - it almost doesn't sound like Bobby to me; it's lacking his soulfulness. But if it was truly 1971 when this was done, it was the last hurrah of The Dominos, and that would mean Bobby on piano.
In a video on his channel with Coco, Whitlock says that this wasn't Clapton--probably Gordon as overdub.
I’m also a drummer who is a huge Gordon fanatic. I have researched and outlined his life from his stretch with Delaney & Bonnie in ‘69 to the beginning months of 1973. This recording, “Devil Road” (aka Hurtwood Edge), was a composition by Jim Gordon. The first time this composition appears is on a Tim Weisberg album released in October 1972 and is titled “Hurtwood Edge.” It’s in October 1972 when this version (“Devil Road”) was recorded.
Gordon and Armand went on a trip to England in October of 1972 between show dates for Zappa (the Grand Wazoo finished on September 24, 1972 and the Petite Wazoo tour didn’t begin until October 29, 1972). During this time the trip to England occurred.
Gordon had to go to England for a number of reasons:
•Richard Perry called in Gordon to play on sessions of Carly Simon
•He also had to establish and pick up his royalties from “Layla” as the song had become extremely popular after its inclusion on the album The History of Eric Clapton
•Gordon visited Clapton and George Harrison while on this trip. There was also a lot of heavy heroin use on this trip
@@parkergauthier5238 Bobby Keys Altar Rock
@@parkergauthier5238 Quite interesting, wow so it was on a Tim Weisberg album titled Hurtwood Edge? I had never heard about that-thanks!
To be honest this really shouldn't be called Derek and the Dominos because it isn't Derek and the Dominos . It is the drummer Jim Gordon and his girlfriend with other musicians .. Bobby Whitlock has a channel that he does interviews on and he said that this was recorded after Derek and the Dominos had split up. He said that it wasn't him or Eric on the recording
You do see the comment from Jim’s girlfriend confirming Eric’s involvement yes?
@@pglpgl8508 read it carefully, Renee mentions recording at EC’s home studio but not that he was involved.
Am I mad, or does the 1st two and a half minutes NOT have a STEELY DAN kick??
I agree, and Clapton is my favorite so I know him well. The whole thing sounds like Steely Dan with Skunk Baxter (probably not Denny). EXTREMELY clean and unbelievably good - in a sense I don't care who played it it is so good. Also true that drumming could be Gordon -- But Steely Dan always had ringers playing for them. Her voice if flat but who cares.
Interesting comparison.. Jim Gordon played drums for Steely Dan on Rikki don't loose that number, about 3 years after this recording.. He was an in demand session drummer.. This (Devil Road) is a great track, great playing by all.. I would say it's Jim on piano & not Bobby..
Thanks!
@@timothyjensen179 Jim Gordon played the outro piano part used on the song Layla.
Jim was staying after the 4:00 PM to 8:00 PM Derek & the Dominos Criteria Studio recording sessions to record his own solo album. That piano part was part of trade. Jim gave the Dominos that piano piece, (which Duane & Eric latter soloed over), for him to use free studio time. Jim's album was never finished.
whoever guitarist is, this song is act of genius.
Revel Doad...
eric clapton is god e i derek and the dominos sono passati come una meteora ma hanno lasciato una traccia indelebile nel mondo della musica rock blues
That's some of the finest guitar playin I have ever heard. Don't get any better than this. 💗💗💗🇮🇪☘
Bobby Whitock and Carl Radle are not on this recording. Per Renee Armand, it was done in ECs home studio. EC, Jim Gordon and Renee. Many years later the tapes were found at Criteria Studios and unknown artists overdubbed...
jbr17 I dunno, the piano comping certainly sounds like Bobby to me! Just another mystery lost to the ages I suppose haha!
Not a mystery... Bobby told me personally he had nothing to do with this recording.
jbr17 Well... guess that settles that haha!
+Wonka275 yes that should settle that, he does know Bobby :-)
Is it Jim on piano?
great song !! amazing !!!!!!
Sounds like somebody trying to sound Claptonesque….to repetitive I.M.H.O. 🍺🍺🍺
I just love your style of singing this song René combined with the melody. Outstanding!
That is most definitely Clapton playing.
Please explain why
@@josmeijer6244 There are a number of reasons.... main ones are the transition lick Clapton was using to change positions on the guitar neck is the same one used repeatedly on live at the Fillmore- listen to why does love have to be so sad.. Another reason is the ascending triplet licks along with ascending bends that you can hear all over Clapton's playing at the time. His raking licks- pulling the pick across a number of strings to play single notes fast followed by pulls and hammers is all Clapton. Just a few reasons.
James Arndt thank you sir
@@josmeijer6244 you know what? it's actually Clapton's neighbor playing the guitar. At the time, Eric was in back yard cutting grass, have a cup of tea and some cigarette. While his home studio and his own band being used to make music together. Or Eric maybe just holding the mic, who knows? You jerk!
The truth is, you just dislike Clapton and not fond of him. You already explained 'bout why it's not Clapton, but didn't know either or don't have a courage to bring one name for who really is playing the guitar on this track. What a fool you are!
George? Hendrix? Rory? Pete? Jeff? Jimmy? Gilmour? They don't sound like this. And Eric's sound is the only one, well except for maybe Duane, I think at some point they're just sound the same. That's why I love both of them!
There's only one guitar here, it's impossible if Duane played this. He had a band, so was Eric and Jim! Why would you wrote a song for your band to record it, and then invite someone from another band across the ocean to play guitar on that song, whilst you have a member in your band exclusively as a guitar player too. But then that guitar player got ignored, uninvited or whatever. One thing or the other, then you happen to record the song in that poor guitar player's home studio. If you were this a poor band member guy, how would you react? That's all!
As one who has studied Clapton’s styles through the years…this is different. This guitarist is influenced by D&D period Clapton…and by Terry Kath. There are riffs and cliches that Clapton never used before or since. Great solo regardless. Wish someone would reveal definitively who this awesome guitarist is.
Unusual addition to the other Derek and the Dominos stuff. Great vocals are by Renee Armand.
Clapton's guitarwork is so different here you could be forgiven for thinking it was someone else - the solos don't start until 2'37" into the song. Some may say this has all the usual 70's faults on it but I really like this track - it's really a home recording.
Joao Ponder, listen to Derek and the Doninos Live Album or the Layla album or Rainbow Concert, it absolutely is Eric, and he's playing a strat thru a small Fender I'd guess
I need to sit down.....that was mental
Clapton is my main man and this isn't him playing guitar and I don't think its even the D&TD crew. It's more Dave Mason/ Duane Allman in style. It's not bluesy enough for EC...it's not his vibrato....its not his phrasing. His solo on Creams version of Crossroads was his Freebird moment. This is a great solo but it doesn't have Clapton's soul or sense of space and time.
your sir are full of shit this is 100% eric clapton the singer confirmed it and bobby Whitlock said it was eric clapton
@@nufcforlife548 ah thanks mate , you have a way with words - you are a classy man. Still doesn't change the fact its not Clapton... stylistically it's completely different.
@@ItsBriiiiii Everyone is entitled to their opinion on this and if Eric confirmed it I'd of course be very wrong! But it's not Eric my friend, stylistically there are licks in there that EC has never played during any part of his career...let's beg to differ and let it be what it is ...a lovely talking point open for all to discuss....
@@mattbullard7143 renee armand
renee armand
3 years ago
Just want to make clear what this is: Jim and I were in England to pick up his royalties and his car. We visited Eric (who I had never met) - and who was not doing all that well. Jim and Eric spent most of the time together. I/we wrote this song when I joined them in Eric's studio. I wrote the words and sang the melody, and that's me singing on the cut. I have no idea how anyone got a tape of it.
It doesn't sound like Clapton to me either. Not his tone and doesn't sound like his phrasing either. Obviously, there is "wah" in here, which Clapton used but that really doesn't prove anything. I agree it sounds more like Dave Mason than Clapton. If Bobby Whitlock says it isn't him I'd tend to believe it.
It's Eric for sure my dad had a bootleg from Germany and this tune was on it a little different but how could people say that isn't his playing !
Could you please ask your dad to post the bootleg?
It just doesn't have any signature Claption to it. I know most everything he's ever done. I'm not convinced it's Eric playing. I don't hear Bobby Whitlock either.
@@nickk8416 Bobby Whitlock has stated that he nor Clapton played on it. He went so far as to say that Clapton at his worse wouldn’t sound like this.
@@carlosrincon1551 Jim Gordon played piano :)
R I P Carl
this is the meaning of the word GEM
Renee thanks for singing this fantastic song. I keep coming back and plating it over and over, your voice is beautiful.
Never would have guessed the guitar was Eric. Simply amazing playing, phrasing, style, groove on this.
Not Clapton
@@bobcabo4509 Somewhere below in all these comments, the singer herself said it's Clapton. I've copied it for you.
@reneearmand5067
6 years ago
Just want to make clear what this is: Jim and I were in England to pick up his royalties and his car. We visited Eric (who I had never met) - and who was not doing all that well. Jim and Eric spent most of the time together. I/we wrote this song when I joined them in Eric's studio. I wrote the words and sang the melody, and that's me singing on the cut. I have no idea how anyone got a tape of it.
@@FrankenBeenz Clapton is playing rhythm guitar, that's all. Rene's claim to fame is that people think he played the solos. Eric disliked Jim Gordon and always had, so any involvement at all would be miraculous. Apparently they played through this once and Jim and Rene took the tape away and added to it several years later, to benefit themselves.
@@bobcabo4509 Rene doesn't seem at all promotional. I think Jim & Eric had their final falling out after this was recorded. In any case, it doesn't sound like Eric. Hasn't anyone asked him about this track in all these years?
@@FrankenBeenz EC is not the easiest guy to pin down.Since Rene says Jim went back to pick up belongings etc, it had to be well after the "final falling out" which took place in the studio during sessions fot the 2nd album. Bobby Whitlock says the only time EC and Gordon were in a studio again after that was one song on Bobby's album, where Eric sat with his back to Gordon, so as not acknowledging his presence. If you watch some of Bobby's RUclips videos, it's clear that the animosity went back to the earliest days of the band. Jim Keltner was Eric choice, but he doesn't like to tour and Carl Radle showed up with Gordon. There's no way they recorded this together, and other than the one BW track, how or where they could have ended up in a studio togrther.
This would have been the Layla of the second album
thank you I thought I heard everything
what a solo !
Is BObby playing piano is that Jim on piano?
Simply beautiful!
EC is Here !!!
Reminds me of the 'live' Domino concerts the previous year which I was lucky enough to witness! Certainly Eric, definitely his approach and attack, besides Mason, while competent, is not in the same league!
Great tune but that's not Eric. The Dominos is my favourite period for his live playing. This is not Eric's phrasing.
Jason Hole yes it is you no nothing
No way that is Clapton. Someone is trying to imitate him, perhaps, with much more modern gear. That second solo is a train wreck.
Never heard this until today. Eric was flawless on his leads! Outstanding!
Not Clapton
Wow according to Renee Eric was not doing well , he sure did well on this song! Live Long & Rock On...
As great as the guitars are in this song, the vocal , and the piano kept me listening, not the usual for me!!! Not to mention the percussion!!! It all was GREAT!!
Clapton obviously felt happy and relaxed having a small comfort of playing in the comfort of his own home studio...
So we all know now how he plays his guitars behind closed doors!!
I bet there is loads of stuff recorded somewhere!
Full on inspirational...
Thanks for the upload.
I don’t think he was happy he was in the throws of heroine addiction at the time I think
How do you know for a fact that t's not Clapton playing guitar? It sure seems to be him based on the credits listed in the studio. My understanding is that Duane Allman was the only one missing from the original album and it was the studio sessions for the next album before the cancelled the project.
Yesit is
Say what???
Guys only to put an end to all the 'is it eric or is it not eric who is playing guitar this solo please watch this interview with Bobby W. It obviously wasn't eric is the short answer as it sounds nothing like him. ruclips.net/video/MTnls7UZoW8/видео.html
Showing some ignorance but just trying to take a sensible stab at answering the who played lead controversy.
BW states in the interview that while he is stating that it is not Eric playing, he didn't know anything about it until it came out. So other than speculation, he can't know for sure unless someone who was there told him. Renee was there, having traveled there with Jim, and so she is not guessing as Whitlock seems to be doing, but was present when the recording was made in EC's home studio with herself and Jim, and apparently overdubbed later.
As for "it can't be Eric, it's not his sound," I've cut some tapes and convincingly told people it was some early bootlegs I found of Jimi; "a bit overly raw, but you can just feel his essence that he was developing." Each time I got something like "yeah, some mistakes like you said, but you can def hear that," and amused annoyance/red faces after my subsequent ethically obligatory "it's actually me on an old Tascam four track" confession. And I can't even really play the guitar well (but can jam, and am innovative and expressive in use of the instrument, and could play lightning fast because of then proficiency in another instrument).. Point is, it's hard for almost anyone to listen to sounds that could easily be EC playing, or possibly someone else based on sound (though does sound like EC in many ways) and say "this is" or "is not" EC, and in most instances be taking much more than an educated guess.
Renee, who was there when this was recorded, and who helped write the song with Jim, and was actually part of the initial recording, on the other hand, can say who it was. Without more, BC saying it is not Eric as if he is just going by the fact that D&TD had split up by that point or maybe he was guessing/stating by the playing, when he didn't even know about the song and doesn't offer who it was, doesn't offer enough to change that conclusion. And comments from some that "This isn't EC's playing" (contradicting comments from others that "this is definitely EC's playing") don't really answer anything.
Is it possible that Clapton played, and his playing was overdubbed with another guitarist like Duane? My guess would be no, but 'dunno for certain. Techies might have some insight into that; also need to know how the original session was done, since it might have all been one track (maybe someone with a good ear/better knowledge than me or a good ear might know or can hear it from the recording?) and am thinking if so that the original guitar couldn't have been taken out, but again, maybe there is some way to do that even though it would seem not really doable.
Regardless, by the accounts of all those with direct knowledge of the principals at the time, it sounds like EC was down, and there was a lot of heroin use, so if it impeded his playing (so overdubbed with another guitarist) it didn't seem to impede Gordon's drumming, as it seems super tight and really well connected to the guitar lead. So all 3 were probably just relaxed and making music, with no intention of anything other than making it for the moment - which often produces some of the best stuff.
I will add one last personal thing. I'm not necessarily a big EC fan, his views have become a bit reactionary. But he once made a statement about Jimi and the true artist experience that Jimi felt (and to so express, Eric had to as well), that both hit me like a ton of bricks (it was spot on for me, and hit the depths of the intensity of passion, and creativity) and gave me insight into why he was once such a phenomenal musician. He also wrote have you ever loved a woman so much you trembled in pain, writing about his best friend's wife (PBH). I have literally, physically trembled in pain over my best friend's long time GF. And on the second attack, after Gordon's slow down the drum interlude (go to about 6:52; don't know how to put in the time link, first comment, and from its length, probably my last), there is something there that hit me, aside from not having the technical skill, the exact way I would have played those 5 or 6 seconds, and I connected it to the intensity over that trembling, that in part stays with me in dreams (though always it's a very tender, almost beautiful thing, but our hands, eyes or lips graze then ultimately move apart and I wake up), that from my own perspective, makes it sound like Eric's playing through that expression of the almost indescribable, into artistic/musical expression.
@@JC-lc5xi I like that you've plowed a lot of effort into your reasoning...kudos to you. I've studied Clapton's playing for the last 35 odd years, stylistic I steal loads of stuff from him - over those years you understand the nuances in person's playing, their go-to phrasing, vibrato, and the rhythmic sensibilities they have -EC doesn't approach a solo this way, even in the DATD's days ...it's like listening to Eddie Murphy doing a voice over and then saying its definitely Morgan Freeman's voice - the tone, the delivery, the essence is completely different, believe me, this is not EC...it's great playing whoever did it, but Eric doesn't play like this. BUT everyone should be entitled to believe what they wish to, so more power to you and anyone else who thinks this is EC...
The guitar playing sounds like ftom the Derek and the Dominos Live at the Fillmore which was ec only on guitar and the playing between ec and Jim Gordon is the same combination displayed here. I cant imagine any other guitarist than ec at the time not releasing this for sale.
Bobby Witlock said . This is not EC !! So . He won't say who it is ! ?? Jim G on piano ,. ? Renay needs to say !! Many it's Steve Winwood , he's that good ,. It's not Duain A,. It's right before 401 ocian Bulv. Miami studio player ,. ? Man WHO IS THIS ??????? On gutar please ??????????????????
Not Clapton, and not Winwood. Certainly not Dave Mason. Winwood is underated on guitar, but everything Winwood does, musically, has a point.
Maybe it's Frank Zappa. Zappa played with Gordon--used to call Jim "Skippy". I don't what to think after reading this board. Whoever the guitar is---he's better than EC.
I have the bootleg too and I think it's safe to say that, this act of genius is from Clapton himself. This song is one of the best I've ever heard. If anyone has the FAC/lossless version of it, I'm buying.
Not Clapton.
@@bobcabo4509 Clapton indeed
@@siro.garrido Nope. No way he worked with Jim Gordon again
@@siro.garrido I just checked my messages. There is a RUclips vid called Derek and the Dominos superstar jam or something like that. It has a very long instrumental purporting to be the Dominos during sessions for the 2nd album. I had asked Bobby Whitlock if it was legit,,he said "John Roe (a mutual friend) thinks it's the people that did Devils Road" To me, that says it's neither Clapton or the Dominos on either recording.
@@bobcabo4509 Rene Armand herself wrote this: "Just want to make clear what this is: Jim and I were in England to pick up his royalties and his car. We visited Eric (who I had never met) - and who was not doing all that well. Jim and Eric spent most of the time together. I/we wrote this song when I joined them in Eric's studio. I wrote the words and sang the melody, and that's me singing on the cut. I have no idea how anyone got a tape of it."
Wow! What a find!
I just discovered this gem, It's very beautiful, thank you very much, peace and love everybody.
I do not know if its EC or not but the solo is quite amazing and her voice is mesmerizing.
Jesus!
Sounds like Eric to me>
Glad to see its back on this tube.
Eric and Brownie......don't get any better than that. Derek and the dominoes were something else. 💖💖💖💖
i'd like to see Jim or Ginger and Eric, Jimmy, Jeff Beck all play before the wheelchairs. may be with Warren Hanes.....
Tom Baldwin or Warren Buffett on bass
Certainly isn't Eric on guitar.
Wow, what a great song.
Always loved Slowhand but never knew this existed. Cheers.
Def gordon,claptoon too,
Simply Sublime
I heard this song on KDEO in San Diego. At the time, that station played the most diverse rock at the time. What's even more remarkable is that it was an AM station. They played a wide range of music from Les McCann, Hot Tuna to Lydia Pense.'
This song was from Tim Weisberg's album, "Hurtwood Edge". I did not know this was a cover.
Nevertheless, both the original and cover still sound as good as it did when they were both first composed.
ruclips.net/video/IRvn7jbNg5E/видео.html
100% clapton whoever says its not needs a good slap
Yes it is Clapton on guitar and we know who is singing and who is on piano but who is doing the great job on the drums??? Live Long & rock on...
If Gordon is playing drums who is playing who is playing piano, according to Armand it was just the three of them, I am confused , live long & rock on...
Somebody ask Bobby W,. Hes on Facebook !
she sings a bit out of tune tbh (especially after 2:00).
It is the imperfections that make this pop music and not Bach or Thomas.Tallis or something. Why not take your sad sack perfect pitch and listen to some Debussy or something Nancy boy? HOW ABOUT YOU PICK SOME TCHAIKOVSKY SO YOU CAN DANCE ABOUT IN YOUR LEOTARD YOU FRUIT OF THE LOOM! I BET YOU THINK YOU HAVE PERFECT PITCH WHEN YOU FART!
Amazing....Great post...Thanks...
OK If Gordon was playing piano who was the GREAT drummer in this song ??? If anyone knows please reply, Live Long & Rock On...
it is without a doubt the great Jim Gordon
No one , I thought he was playing piano , every answer to this question is interesting...
As others have said, it’s obviously Jim Gordon on drums. The vocals are Renee Armand, the guitar is Clapton. Then there were parts overdubbed (the bass and the piano). No one has ever actually identified who plays the bass and piano on this. However, since this jam was basically born from a hangout between Clapton and Gordon (with Armand brought in), it can be speculated that it is Gordon on keys and Clapton on bass. Gordon plays piano/organ on several albums (Jackson Browne’s debut, To Bonnie from Delaney, etc.). The closest to the playing on this is on Armand’s solo LP, The Rain Book.
This song/Jam wasn’t recorded in one live take. It most likely was layered and then thrown all together. Now that could’ve been done several different ways.
That is Steven stilles on guitar. South Florida. Jim Gorden , Bobby, W the aftermath of the Dominioes ,,,,
Eric a true virtuoso 👏👏👏👏
let cut through the chase & politely ask Eric Clapton who cut~heads on this #🇬🇧🗿🎸🎤🔌🎼💃or ask the lady again*
does anyone know this progression? I can tell it's 4 notes, and the last 2 are the same, but I don't know which notes
Anyone know if this CD can be purchased?
Bobby Whitlock is right. Not Clapton.
9:12 - 9:23 part of... Stairway to Heaven solo!
Outsatanding, Clapton is God.👍
It sounds like Dave mason...
Not even close mason never ever played this good
@@nufcforlife548 You are right... it sounds like Dave Mason in his dreams.
2:33
6:47
Who's the lady singing here?