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Most definitely EC on guitar. Marc Roberty interviewed Renee Armand who confirmed it (see Day by Day Early Years book). If you take it in context with the rest of the 2nd album sessions, the guitar sounds and playing is very similar, and not like the Layla sessions at all. Probably not brownie, more likely a gibson here, coupled with EC's state of mind and poor physical, that would account for it not appearing to be classic Clapton phrasing etc. I don't believe Whitlock was present here, so any comments he makes about it not being Eric is worthless.

@@ECCollectables Well, Marc wasn't there either. He's usually very dependable, but I still maintain that EC wouldn't be in the same room with Gordon at the time Armand claims the session took place.

Not Clapton

@@bobcabo4509 Somewhere below in all these comments, the singer herself said it's Clapton. I've copied it for you. @reneearmand5067 6 years ago Just want to make clear what this is: Jim and I were in England to pick up his royalties and his car. We visited Eric (who I had never met) - and who was not doing all that well. Jim and Eric spent most of the time together. I/we wrote this song when I joined them in Eric's studio. I wrote the words and sang the melody, and that's me singing on the cut. I have no idea how anyone got a tape of it.

@@FrankenBeenz Clapton is playing rhythm guitar, that's all. Rene's claim to fame is that people think he played the solos. Eric disliked Jim Gordon and always had, so any involvement at all would be miraculous. Apparently they played through this once and Jim and Rene took the tape away and added to it several years later, to benefit themselves.

@@bobcabo4509 Rene doesn't seem at all promotional. I think Jim & Eric had their final falling out after this was recorded. In any case, it doesn't sound like Eric. Hasn't anyone asked him about this track in all these years?

@@FrankenBeenz EC is not the easiest guy to pin down.Since Rene says Jim went back to pick up belongings etc, it had to be well after the "final falling out" which took place in the studio during sessions fot the 2nd album. Bobby Whitlock says the only time EC and Gordon were in a studio again after that was one song on Bobby's album, where Eric sat with his back to Gordon, so as not acknowledging his presence. If you watch some of Bobby's RUclips videos, it's clear that the animosity went back to the earliest days of the band. Jim Keltner was Eric choice, but he doesn't like to tour and Carl Radle showed up with Gordon. There's no way they recorded this together, and other than the one BW track, how or where they could have ended up in a studio togrther.

I agree totally. You have to spend a lot of time listening to his incredible resume on Wikipedia to fully understand how great he was.

Sure has had my attention. More I read about him a mixture of respect and pity, after learning of his murder conviction in the 1980s. Solid.

This sounds like the derek and the dominos live album especially the weird use of a wah to shape tone wich is a perfect match to the fillmore shows

Not Clapton

This is derek and the dominos. Jim Gordon helped produce Bobby Keys album and also drummed on that, and this is Jim drumming and on piano here with Clapton and Rene Armando

@@ItsBriiiiii it’s not Clapton, Whitlock didn’t play on it.. Bobby said it on his RUclips Channel.. this has nothing to do with Derek & Dominoes

@@MrBrungers It's JG and EC

Not Clapton, and not Winwood. Certainly not Dave Mason. Winwood is underated on guitar, but everything Winwood does, musically, has a point.

Maybe it's Frank Zappa. Zappa played with Gordon--used to call Jim "Skippy". I don't what to think after reading this board. Whoever the guitar is---he's better than EC.

Showing some ignorance but just trying to take a sensible stab at answering the who played lead controversy. BW states in the interview that while he is stating that it is not Eric playing, he didn't know anything about it until it came out. So other than speculation, he can't know for sure unless someone who was there told him. Renee was there, having traveled there with Jim, and so she is not guessing as Whitlock seems to be doing, but was present when the recording was made in EC's home studio with herself and Jim, and apparently overdubbed later. As for "it can't be Eric, it's not his sound," I've cut some tapes and convincingly told people it was some early bootlegs I found of Jimi; "a bit overly raw, but you can just feel his essence that he was developing." Each time I got something like "yeah, some mistakes like you said, but you can def hear that," and amused annoyance/red faces after my subsequent ethically obligatory "it's actually me on an old Tascam four track" confession. And I can't even really play the guitar well (but can jam, and am innovative and expressive in use of the instrument, and could play lightning fast because of then proficiency in another instrument).. Point is, it's hard for almost anyone to listen to sounds that could easily be EC playing, or possibly someone else based on sound (though does sound like EC in many ways) and say "this is" or "is not" EC, and in most instances be taking much more than an educated guess. Renee, who was there when this was recorded, and who helped write the song with Jim, and was actually part of the initial recording, on the other hand, can say who it was. Without more, BC saying it is not Eric as if he is just going by the fact that D&TD had split up by that point or maybe he was guessing/stating by the playing, when he didn't even know about the song and doesn't offer who it was, doesn't offer enough to change that conclusion. And comments from some that "This isn't EC's playing" (contradicting comments from others that "this is definitely EC's playing") don't really answer anything. Is it possible that Clapton played, and his playing was overdubbed with another guitarist like Duane? My guess would be no, but 'dunno for certain. Techies might have some insight into that; also need to know how the original session was done, since it might have all been one track (maybe someone with a good ear/better knowledge than me or a good ear might know or can hear it from the recording?) and am thinking if so that the original guitar couldn't have been taken out, but again, maybe there is some way to do that even though it would seem not really doable. Regardless, by the accounts of all those with direct knowledge of the principals at the time, it sounds like EC was down, and there was a lot of heroin use, so if it impeded his playing (so overdubbed with another guitarist) it didn't seem to impede Gordon's drumming, as it seems super tight and really well connected to the guitar lead. So all 3 were probably just relaxed and making music, with no intention of anything other than making it for the moment - which often produces some of the best stuff. I will add one last personal thing. I'm not necessarily a big EC fan, his views have become a bit reactionary. But he once made a statement about Jimi and the true artist experience that Jimi felt (and to so express, Eric had to as well), that both hit me like a ton of bricks (it was spot on for me, and hit the depths of the intensity of passion, and creativity) and gave me insight into why he was once such a phenomenal musician. He also wrote have you ever loved a woman so much you trembled in pain, writing about his best friend's wife (PBH). I have literally, physically trembled in pain over my best friend's long time GF. And on the second attack, after Gordon's slow down the drum interlude (go to about 6:52; don't know how to put in the time link, first comment, and from its length, probably my last), there is something there that hit me, aside from not having the technical skill, the exact way I would have played those 5 or 6 seconds, and I connected it to the intensity over that trembling, that in part stays with me in dreams (though always it's a very tender, almost beautiful thing, but our hands, eyes or lips graze then ultimately move apart and I wake up), that from my own perspective, makes it sound like Eric's playing through that expression of the almost indescribable, into artistic/musical expression.

@@JC-lc5xi I like that you've plowed a lot of effort into your reasoning...kudos to you. I've studied Clapton's playing for the last 35 odd years, stylistic I steal loads of stuff from him - over those years you understand the nuances in person's playing, their go-to phrasing, vibrato, and the rhythmic sensibilities they have -EC doesn't approach a solo this way, even in the DATD's days ...it's like listening to Eddie Murphy doing a voice over and then saying its definitely Morgan Freeman's voice - the tone, the delivery, the essence is completely different, believe me, this is not EC...it's great playing whoever did it, but Eric doesn't play like this. BUT everyone should be entitled to believe what they wish to, so more power to you and anyone else who thinks this is EC...

The guitar playing sounds like ftom the Derek and the Dominos Live at the Fillmore which was ec only on guitar and the playing between ec and Jim Gordon is the same combination displayed here. I cant imagine any other guitarist than ec at the time not releasing this for sale.

You do see the comment from Jim’s girlfriend confirming Eric’s involvement yes?

@@pglpgl8508 read it carefully, Renee mentions recording at EC’s home studio but not that he was involved.