Nickelodeon vs. The Legend of Korra
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Hi. I haven't uploaded a video in 2 months. I've been very busy with the tabletop channel. Schedule is slowly clearing up so you can expect to see more garbage coming onto your timeline.
No worries dad, you're good.
who would win in a physical fight, you or nithin?
This videos arent grbage their just like old fiddlesticks
Bro will you please meet up with your homies and continue the DnD story you guys had,that shiat was so funny and cool man.
Not to mention they snubbed the composer of one of the best cartoon soundtracks. Jeremy Zuckermans music was not released except for season 1 of Korra because Nickelodeon feared it would not be worth the money. His soundtracks in ATLA and LOK were legendary.
service and sacrifice breaks me everytime. feel bad for korra, for both her first 3 season character arc and the show's behind the scenes story.
I know! A lot of us LOK fans really want the full soundtrack to be released.
This is the perfect type of show to get something like "The Legend of Korra: Retold" or something
I wish man
Okay I kinda want a rewriting of TLOK now
like fullmetal alchemist brotherhood?
Thats exactly what this show needs. I still think its a great show. But there are a few messy parts and story lines, that really could use a make over.
@@Skyguy22 like season 1&2
Honestly, they did REALLY well with the hand they were dealt. Even Season 2 at least starts out really interesting, it just ends in the worst way possible because they thought it was over completely.
Season 2 also had beginnings, which is some of the best two episodes the Avatar series has to offer.
They outperformed ATLA in quality of.. Everything. Much better show than ATLA.
@@HeadGodoftheGodCouncilEveryone's free to their opinions, but... no.
@@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil nice bait dude, almost fooled me there🙌
@@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil Animation quality sure.
I knew they did the show dirty but I didnt know about the cuts, first 2 seasons shit, leaks, and being pulled and put online... now ik why I never knew there was a season 4 until when I chose to rewatch the show online since I rewatched the original series
You voluntarily chose to watch korra?
@@Zuignap Ya seethe?
@@Zuignap You voluntarily chose to put your foot in your mouth? Yes, let's attack the messenger, because that works soooo well.
@@sbatou87 he voluntarily chose to watch korra ahahahahahhahahahaha
@@Zuignap Do you really have to act like a childish punk?
I Just hear Irohs Song in my head where He crys for His son. Damn that shit was sad
You aren't hearing it in your head, it's just playing silently in the background for most of the video.
Fuck just thinking about it make me teary
What does this has to do with the video? Clout grabbers love to mention iroh anywhere 💀
leaves from the vine, falling so slow :(
Some days I genuinely feel like the only person that enjoyed LoK :/ I hate how Nickelodeon tried their hardest to ruin the show, but refuses to let go of the IP
Im with yah dude. LoK is one of my favorite shows, but that doesnt mean we arent allowed to criticize it/nickelodean.
@@stubbornlizard9680 yeah, I totally understand the criticism that the show gets, but far too many people hate on it for irrational reasons (if they even have a reason at all).
Just imagine if netflix had those rights
@@oscarmeldgaard5407 they almost did, but they ruined what could've been a great live-action adaptation
@@DurhamCurse i know i meant more like if they got to make LoK instead of Nick shafting it harder than Johnny Sins does in a normal video
Matt, I'm really loving these documentaries you made. Limewire, MySpace, Life of a Streamer episodes, and now this. I really hope you continue making videos like this, since you are really good at making these!
It's a great shift from the gameplay/lists/warhammer videos, and my "comfort food" when I want to watch something informative. Keep up the great work man! Cheers from Serbia!
He talks about it in one of his videos documentaries like this and horror movies are why he ever started a RUclips in the first place.
Even after everything, you still felt the love and care that the creators put into Korra. I got into that fandom hardcore around the time season 2 came out, and watching everything happen in real time was simply infuriating. I own all the comics and it’s wonderful to see Bryke have their way in at least one medium. I can’t wait for the new content they have planned!!
You mean intentionally ignoring the original series to build fake stakes and drama?
Are the comics much better? It sounds interesting
@@AuroraTheFirstLight no
@@557deadpool ignoring orignal series? hmmmm... funny coming from someone who likes deadpool
@@yummychips_ Kora slandered everything that avatar built in order to satisfy a political agenda.
I usually critisize The Legend Of Korra a lot , but honestly, seeing now this video and realise that Nickelodeon just screwed the series and the animators a lot over, makes me sad. Especially seeing how much comradeship they had for eachother to keep the whole team despite small budget.
That does not excuse the terrible writing
@@MelodyGrooveJunction I never said so.
@@MelodyGrooveJunction I would say to a degree that it does. As a writer myself, I can understand what the writers had to deal with. With the last airbender, they KNEW they were gonna do 3 seasons, and a lot of the overall plot was at least outlined so they knew where they were going and just needed to figure out how to get there, and nickelodeon gave them the ok for all 3 seasons.
Now lets take this from an authors standpoint. Let's say i have an idea, and the idea is overall good in concept. Lets say i write 3 books as i wanted to, now lets say that my editor comes in and says ive been approved to publish a single book and i have to cut it down from 3 300 page books to 1 300 page book. To make this demand, i would have to cut out so much of the moments that would actually tie the elements of these books together and it would no matter how much i tried to write to fix it, would simply be impossible to maintain throughout the whole thing in a way that keeps it making sense. You cannot take 3 books and fuse them into one, cutting over 2/3rds of the content and making it work because it was not written that way in the first place, and i would have to rewrite the whole thing from scratch in the first place to actually accomplish this.
This scenario is similar to the first season of LoK, where they had a lot of ideas they wanted to work with and they were told "sure go ahead, you have 12 episodes", which definitely hindered what they wanted. From some interviews I've heard, when they proposed the idea to Nick, they were planning based on 20 episodes and were going to flesh out the equalizers and the pro-bending championship more, and try fleshing out Korra's training as an airbender. They originally wanted her to start getting some use of it before the climax so its not as jarring as it was in the climax of season one, but they had to cut down on the probending and equalizers and the training to nail down to 12 episodes.
Back to my book analogy, I only wanted to write this 3 book trilogy, which i was forced to chop down to a single book, so all my ideas are already down and i had no intentions of writing more beyond that, and now they are demanding i write a sequel to it as well, which is exactly what happened with book two, which you have to finds someway to up the stakes from the previous iteration, and then that feels rushed and barely put together, and you put it down because you're tapped out, but now you're demanded to write another sequel, so now you've had time to stew, so rather than focus on major forces colliding like the first two, you decide to try to bring it to a more personal level, make it about the characters dealing with the fallout of the past two books, and make the antagonists less of a world ending, and more of an ideological foe.
Then they force you to make a fourth book on half the budget in half the time and you're just burnt out so you say fuck it and go back to world shattering conflict again and BOOM, you have book 4 because they wanted a product they neither needed to think about or pay for, so they got a product with as little effort as possible. They got a complete cohesive story yes, but less money meant less incentive to improve quality, and was a sign that this was to be the end, so who really gives a damn, im just happy to be done with it at this point.
A lot of people personally blame the writers, but honestly, the stories themselves were good on their own but needed more time to flesh out to make them better, and this as a writer is something i understand. I hope you do too, as the writing is the single biggest part of a series to be hit by the publisher, because not only do they have to tell a whole story, they then have to adapt it to X number of episodes, and adapt it in a way that it can be translated into animation by the visual team, and translated into character acting by the actors. As a novel writer, i write for words on paper to be read, it is far harder to do that in a way that it is divided into episodes, scripts, and animation, as you basically need to ensure that the story is written, the characters are described to react physically and vocally, etc
@@MelodyGrooveJunction I'm sorry, but this is a hilariously bad take. Like did you watch the video?
Imagine being told to write a single book and tell a complete story. Not a long book either, you got a hard page limit. And btw, you're following up a well paced trilogy where just the first book was almost double the page length, and then had two more to flesh out characters and story lines.
But you do the best you can. The story is a little short and sweet, some aspects are rushed, but you treat it like a little epilogue, a glimpse into the future of the world and the new conflicts that could arise. But you end it and tie up the story in a neat little bow, no loose ends.
Then suddenly you get told to make a sequel to that story you just finished. Even though that cool antagonist is dead and you have no lingering story lines. And now that you don't have a blank slate the pacing is weird, you have to generate a conflict in a story not set up to have one. Oh, and you still have a rough page limit but about half the time and budget to do it in. So yea, it's a little rushed, but you find a new aspect of the world to explore. Now you go deep into the past and origins of stuff and it's a bit weird and doesn't tonally fit very well but it still introduced a new concept and you end it with one final big climatic fight. Something way bigger then anything you've done before. Glad that's done and settled- what the fuck do you mean I have to write two more books now?!
Like, I'm sorry, to say that none of that has an effect on writing and quality is a hilariously stupid take. The whole point of this video was "Man, I wonder how good Korra could have been if it didn't have production problems and 50 episode slate right from the beginning.
@@brettrichards4048 nah I'm not going to read that
To be honest, I actually rewatched it on Netflix when it came out recently, I didn't feel like the show was that bad, season 2 certainly felt scuffed though. But these animators and storywriters are miracle workers for pulling this off regardless.
It's not so much that it's bad so much as the first series was just that good.
totally agree with you. I love Legend of Korra. Of course its not as good as Last Airbender. But the first Season was really really good, second had many flaws but 3 and 4 were really good again. Its not one big epic Story but 4 small Storys about the new Avatar. Korra is a great Main Character and the industrial Revolution World Building was genious
I’m on season 4 and I really like it except Zaheer becoming super generic
@@mujiescomedy279 he went from I will destroy you to here let me heal you 😂
That's such a such a sad story. Nickelodeon definitely hates Korra.
Meanwhile, we now have Disney trying to suffocate their animated shows, like The Owl House for example.
Owl House is trash
disney is doing the right thing, the owl house belong to the trash
Despite everything, watching LoK was still an exhilarating experience, and I'm insanely happy the show exists. Seasons 3 & 4 are near-perfect in my opinion, and even season 2 has "Beginnings".
I agree i think given the circumstances the team pulled off some incredible, i really enjoyed the first and third season a ton and the 4th only sucked cuz of the budget cut. Season 2 was definitely off but it had great moments
Despite the obvious retcons so they can have an excuse to have a giant Kaiju Battle more sky bison being pulled out of nowhere plus Bolin Mako and Asami being the worst characters out of both Avatar shows.
@@mariobadia4553 nice one bro! you’ll never hear people complain about giant blue fish Aang or sudden randomly appearing giant turtle with superpowers, but hey it’s all good. To an extent I can agree with the characters but I thought Bolin actually had a really good arc throughout most of the series. To each their own!
@@robbifidelino4654 That's because giant blue fish Aang was the first time we got to see the avatar state. It's kinda pointless if everyone can do it. Bolin was fine, Mako and especially Asami were just annoying.
The beginnings episodes were utter trash, and season’s 3 and 4 whole very good are not even close to perfect.
Imagine how it feels to create one the most groundbreaking animated series ever, and then you and your team are just handed the short end of the stick over and over again every time you want to make anything else.
Avatar Team “hey Nickelodeon, I heard you were making a movie based on our show, can we help”
Nickelodeon “Nah we got some guy who doesn’t understand or respect the source material handling it, you guys can sit back and watch the dumpster fire”
A.T. “Ok, how about the spin-off we want to make”
N “Well you can make into a mini series and we’ll make the last minute decision to extend to a four season show but keep you guys out of the loop as possible so you can’t make a solid story, and then we will blame it’s failure on you guys”
I really hope the Avatar Studios thing works out for them, they seem to have a lot more control.
Certainly the live-action Netflix show didn't 😑
I liked every bit of Legend of Korra. Here in Germany i waited for it to air in America and watched it on streaming services the next day, so i had no idea that the production got screwed.
I was so happy that other content in the Atla universe was released so i didn't mind that it wasn't like Aangs adventures, it was more mature and had serious topics.
Season two was a cool background story and the episodes explaining the origin of the avatar were awesome. i think it isn't bad at all.
Well, ATLA had really serious topics too. The only difference was Korra being older than Aang (by a few, but significant years, since it's the age when you get more aware of the outside world) was in Atla, so we had more of a kid's perpective in the first series then in TLOK.
I didn't like S2 all that much but I adore everything else (excluding Milo.
Love the video, glad to have more people talking about the show.
Always wondered why the quality between seasons felt so inconsistent while each seasons potential was so high.
I watched it whole in order with GF online like year ago, and i enjoyed it very much. In my humble opinion the LOK was as enjoyable to watch from world expanding perspective, as LOA but lack of Iroh made me sad
Why can't you let a good character with a finished story arc rest instead of being forced into a worse piece of media?
What the hell is LOA?
@@einsteiner311 because he still served an integral part in helping the avatar. Iroh never had an arc in TLA to begin with so it doesn’t even make that big of a difference. He still maintains the same personality while not feeling shoehorned into the story
@@Selfinflictedhummusrocket I know in many European countries, at least in Russia, the first series named The Legend of Aang
It's so sad what Nickelodeon did to this show and the franchise overall, but it just makes me respect the creators even more, they love and care so much for what they have created and it shows every time I learn something new about it, absolute props to them and may they get they get the chance to express themselves as they see fit in the upcoming content they announced
Meanwhile disney:
Svtfoe: writer wanted 5 seasons was told after season 3 that there is only gunna be 1 more. Also you physical release
Owl house writer wanted little over 3 seasons. Disney declined that expended season
When "publishers" gunna realize they are "publishers" and not the writers, you can't tell a writer how to write their story. If you want control on how long a story runs for. Write it your damn self
thanks for explaining about star
Actually, Star vs was originally just going to have 2, but because of its popularity, it got more. Daron was fully aware Season 4 was going to be the last one.
@@SaiyanGamer95 i later found out the cause that, season 4's writing team was smaller then Se 3's. You can compare the credits.
Living in Germany we always got episodes a couple of month later. I watched all of Avatar on Nikelodeon and I remeber talking to my friend in 4th grade about the finaly of the show.
In 2013 Korra aired on Nikelodeon, but I was a bit older and actually understood English. So I watched it all online on some questinable streaming sites.
I never caught wind of the drama the creators of the show went through. I was justed hyped and excited, that my favourite show got a sequel. I also really liked the show and the animation in particular. Sure, even 14 year old me realised that season two was not that good, but damn was season 3 a banger.
Most of my friend at the time were more into anime and "adult" shows so I could not never really talk about it with anyone. But I still loved it. Korra is a beatiful mess to me and does live up the its predecessor. It has its flaws but the it does also does a lot of things very right.
To me ATLA also isnt perfect and if you think it is, then you are blinded by nostalgic. So yes, Korra is (for the most part) a good sequal to one of the most beloved shows ever.
I agree with you bro. Zaheer and has gang were amazing villains. Korra’s uncle however, was such a poorly written villain I barely wanted to watch. That’s why I hate season 2. Season 3 was so good I enjoyed it more the ATLA.
I genuinely think that if LoK had been given the same playing field as AtLA then it might even have been better. U cant even bring up the argument that it doesnt have uncle iroh cuz it does hahahaha
I have no nostalgia for avatar, but it’s very damn close to perfect. LOK is sub par.
Korra is a monumentally amazing show when you consider the absurd treatment the team got from Nick. Love you for helping point this out to those unaware.
Nick’s handling of Zim and Avatar will always be bafflingly anti-Making Easy Money.
Nick didn't really have many issues with Zim. The only issues were regards to more violent/messed up stuff. As for the show being cancelled, it was just really expensive to produce, what with all the CGI (which was fairly new at the time).
WOOOOOOO good to hear your voice man and hope your channels are coming along smoothly but take your time my dude
These documentary videos are my favorite part of your channel :) Thanks for all the effort.
I watched like 5 of ur video's today again and was like "damn, 2 months already without a new video" and BAM, new video
Thanks you sharing some of the backstory about the whole Korra situation. I legitimately learned a lot from this video.
Curse you Matt. "Little Soldier Boy" made me cry again.
The original is about a normal person learning to become the avatar.
This series is about someone who only ever wanted to be the avatar, learn to be a human, in a world that progressively tells her she isn't needed.
I find it tragic and beautiful.
One of my favorite scenes of the show was season 3, when Korra just talked to someone on the bridge. A beautiful scene above a city inspired by 1920s Shanghai. (not new york, like many people think).
That's when LoK surpassed ATLA for me when they actually show Korra go through knowing what Aang never did. Aang was the typical superhero story of a boy saving the world and everyone adores him, making Aang almost like some Monk Superman. Whereas Korra got constantly compared to Aang and dumped on saying she wasn't as good as him and then began to wonder by season 4 if she should even be the Avatar anymore. Not everyone is going to like you, some will even despise you and that's okay. That's part of life and I like that LoK showed that
Love you Matt
yo this is the content I love to see. Video essays on topics like this bring back ye olde memories
Yo Magikarp you've provided me with a lot of laughs over the years and I love these docu-videos from you (love your Napster and My Life ones). Keep on keeping on dude and great to have you back!
I never watched either show on TV, only recently digitally as an adult. That has probably influenced by opinion a lot, but I believe Korra to be a great show, that while having some more flaws than ATLA, is full of great moments and storytelling. Korra as a character was also a lot more compelling to me that Aang, only overshone by the duo of Zuko and Iroh. Anyways, on the topic of this video, I did not know most of this, it does explain a lot about some of the flaws of the show. I'd now say that it is a wonder the show turned out so great considering all this bullshit Nickelodeon put the team behind it through.
Love these types of video essays
yaasss, pls do more of those kind of trivia videos (if you feel like it) i love it
Thank you for telling the story on how Nick literally threw Korra out the window! I was a Korra fan ever since it was announced that Comic Con and I've watched its ups and downs! Makes me so sad to see all the times Nick just shitted on Korra and it was so amazing.
Yes! YESSS! More people talking about the production hell of this show.
Love these type of videos dude keep it up!
I love that you can realy see how much love Matt puts into this kind of videos! The Limewire and MySpace videos are videos that i still quite often think about. Thanks for that good content!
Can they tell a epic in 26 episodes?
Anime Watcher: "Shiiiiiiit 26 is normal, I've seen it done in 6..."
lmao :d
"What about Wild Thronberries" Man... thats a show i havent thought about that one in a while
It's funny how I was literally rewatching all your videos
I'm glad I saw this when I came home from work!!!
I love these kinds of videos you make! Theyre so good
The soundtrack from the show is breaking my heart
It's kind of a miracle the show did as well as it did with how much Nickelodeon was messing it up behind the scenes
Love this type of content. You nailed it with pacing, structure and jokes. Keep it up
Finally, I missed some of your in-depth videos. I’m glad you’re having fun with the tabletop channel, but I really like your videos.
The two episodes called "beginnings" in S2 where they go back to the first avatar is still one of my favorite episodes of Korra.
Those episodes were pretty bad tbh.
@@Flome810 yeah I honestly didn’t enjoy it. I wanted Korra to just wake up already and get back to the drama. I didn’t care about Wan.
@@reannagordon Plus, they wanted us to sympathize with wan but he was just a narcissist thief that didn’t work. Plus, he kills some guys because they were just looking for some food. And don’t even get me started on the rava and vatu stuff.
The best part of all that shit is, the creators and writers still cared. They made it work and they made something good, Korra is such a good show even after all the crap it went through. Cheesy at times, yes, but an experience I recommend to everyone.
No, just no
Agreed, still love it for what it is
Great vid Matt. Love to see you back
Only complaint about the video is that it ended. I love your analysis and takes in documentaries like these and would love to see more of them!
i really like how they expanded on ways of bending and the overall fights of TLOK feels like such a natural evolution to the more straight foward types of bending in LOA
The last thing I was expecting to see you cover is LoK
Oh this is new! I'm digging this and dice check man keep it coming!!
Didn't expect you to tackle this. Big props, good video mat
I honestly loved Korra and the world building it gave as well as giving us closure on what happened to the original cast. Nikelodeon don't deserve the show.
oh man. I actually finished ATLA for the first time last month, avoided every spoiler too, so that was nice.
I started watching Korra (going in blind) a few days ago, and honestly, I'm really enjoying it. I'm getting the impression people expected something completely different, _and because it isn't what they expected,_ it was interpreted as bad.
I'm looking forward to finishing the series, I'm thinking it's one of those series that was ahead of its time, and people (especially nickelodeon) weren't ready for it.
Good to hear
I think its due to expectations, keep in mind that you got it all in one go.
For most of us it released a long time after TLA, causing very high expectations. And it just didnt live up to it.
Ultimately, the biggest weakness that I felt watching (and recently rewatching) Korra was that many of the villains start out incredibly interesting, and then ultimately flatten out. This comes from the lack of an overarching villain on the order of Ozai, who, while ultimately just a "big bad evil guy", is framed so well throughout the show from multiple perspectives (Zuko's view versus Azula's view of him as his children provide such interesting contrast, especially compared with the gaang's disconnected view of him as more of a powerful force, a goal, than a real person). The third and fourth seasons of Korra are standout to me, though Beginnings is an incredible little self-contained section.
like i say to my friends so many times first season was great everything else goes downhill
@@Neo_Life I wonder if Vaatu should have been the overarching villain.
This is the best video I've seen in a long while. Thank you Matt, keep up the great work.
Thanks for shedding a light on this, always love your more in depth videos
I saw Legend of Korra, so I clicked. Simple as.
Every time I hear about the mess that was LoK’s development and the politics of Nickelodeon, I’m kind of relieved that I didn’t have the show ruined for me; I was busy playing World of Warcraft during the original airing. I only watched it when it came to Netflix, which was a godsend to the fans of this show. I’d shun Nickelodeon for its hypocrisy, but that’s been done so many times before. I just want to thank DiMartino and Konietzko for the hard work they and the rest of the staff put into the show. It has a degree of passion and dedication that is hard to find nowadays.
lgbt pandering ruined it for me.
@@StartRunning. same and the bad writing and characters being just poorly written and the lore being changed and distorted from the already established lore
@@StartRunning. the "pandering" is corporate trying to pull in people on marketing no pandering was ever in the show though explicitly you saying that is why couldn't have at least a kiss or conformation of something with asami and korra cause executives thought they would lose precious viewer like you...and person who replied to you literally just parroting the same ol stuff but not really explaining
@@crawlingboy Sure, the writing is wonky. Sure, the lore was changed a bit. I don’t think any less of the Avatar producers for these things. Personally, I hold LoK to similar praise that I give ATLA, whilst understanding its flaws.
@@StartRunning. Might I ask what pandering you refer to? It’s one relationship that the higher-ups didn’t want to happen in the first place! I think it’s fine that they got together, but I just would’ve wanted their relationship to be fleshed out more before the season 4 finale.
Thank you creators of this show despite everyting they went through it was enjoyable at least
It's good to have you back Matt!!!
It annoy me that more people isn't watching this bcs i really enjoy this video and would love to see more content like this from you
Its also amazing how few people also know this. I've seen plenty of comment debate on Korra, from reaction channels to video essay channels, and there's so many people that deny that this even happened to the production of the show.
Thanks for helping spread the word on this. Personally I love the show, and more than tolerate a good amount of the flops in seasons 2 & 4. Makes me wonder what we could've seen if Nick just decided to give seasons 2-4 all at once.
Also the clip show is entertaining, as far as clip shows go.
Season 3 of LoK rivaled the first Avatar
oh for sure. Seasons 3 and 4 honestly surpassed ATLA for me
@@littenfire3563 Woah there buddy, don’t say such blasphemous statements.
with proper revisions of each season you could make this show so damn good
Great vid mate, loving the new content.
It's impressive that legend of Korra is a solid show despite all of these external problems that the studio faced during production. I think I'm not alone when I say that if LOK got the resources and love that the show deserved, then undoubtedly the show would've been a banger!
I'm usually the first person to jump up and defend Korra as a show because of how special it is to me. I can always recognize it's flaws, but I think so many people don't realize the issues the show had because of Nickelodeon and a lot of the backhanded things that happened during the show's development. To me, even with how much of a mess a lot of aspects were, Korra stands out as one of my favorite characters of all time, and here's why:
While I think the message could have been portrayed better narratively, Korra's struggle with what is clearly PTSD and severe depression by the end of season 3 really hit home for me. Seeing someone hit rock bottom really spoke to me at a dark point in my life, and watching her be able to rise up and overcome it meant something to me. It gave me hope. While I know it never really became canon until the comics, seeing Korra and Asami in what was (to me, at least) a very clearly implied relationship made my heart soar. It was the first time I had ever seen even one bisexual person in a show like this, let alone two. And neither of them were the butt of some joke about promiscuity like so many bisexual people were back then.
Awesome video man, I loved it. :)
Feels good to watch your content again. Dunno what happened but glad to be back
It took me 5 minutes into the video before I realized this is the same guy that did the league videos I used to watch. Love the new content my dude
i LOVE legend of korra. for all the shit the creators were put through and, as you said, having to follow up one of the best cartoons ever made, i think they did really really well. to me it shows that dimartino and konietzko really cared for the franchise and tried their best.
Thank you very much for this video, I really never knew that there was such a mess behind the legend of korra series. I really liked it tho but knowing all this you really wonder what it could have been like if things went differently.
Brother, I love these videos you make. Like I used to watch you back in the day for the memes and funny shit. But I can seriously tell that you are really talented at making these types of videos. You're doing great man! Keep up the good work
Glad you are back Matt, I wish you would upload more for us but I get that you were working on your tabletop content. Thanks for the Korra video and I hope you have a good day!
I love both shows. Aang's adventures are significantly better, but the game was rigged from the start with Korra. Mad props to Bryke for still finding a way to soldier through all this and deliver the best they could with Korra. Season 3 really stands out and it was the one that arguably got screwed the hardest.
Watched the legend of korra for the first time throughout lockdown, I really enjoyed it! Glad I didn't have to deal with schedule changes
DUDE I found this video from a group but honest to god I HAVE MISSED YOUR VIDEOS
I was with you since early League stuff and I swear your Humor gives me life.
Thank you for touching on this Topic! Legends do collide and I cant believe one of my favorite youtubers also Watches ATLA & LOK :D
Glad to see you back awesome video
So while I was waiting around for the 3rd season to come out, I had found out the entire 4th season had concluded.
It's been 84 years...
But finally...
Another MUF upload
Kinda shines a new light on the series as a whole and why some of its problems existed, amazing video yet again man
ayo matt this is a new direction for you and i gotta say. loving it.
Watched legend of korra for the first time around a month ago right after watching the last airbender and i really liked it. It was different then The last airbender but i really liked the character development and the antagonists.
I really dont see why people dislike it. I really think people just hate it because other people say so without even watching it. (similar to Boruto which has the same problem with hate from people who never watched it)
Btw great Video! Did not even notice the shit that happend around Legend of korra around the time it was airing.
Just hilarious how hard NickeLOWdeon fucked this up
Maybe I'm the wrong person to respond, since I do really like the series overall, but I found Korra herself pretty awful in the first half of Book 2. However I was already following the production closely enough to know it was a side effect of suddenly having to make an unplanned second season. Then she turned out to be my favorite part of Book 4, so that was nice.
I haven't watched Boruto because I really didn't want to sit through having him be the main character before his movie character arc lol
The manga has been so lean though (all plot all the time, presumably because it's monthly now) that I'm seriously considering finally getting back into the animated part of the franchise (I'd be starting at the Itachi ANBU arc in Shippuden)
When i watched TLOK, i just cannot watch ATLA anymore because TLOK animation is soo good, If i will choose between ATLA or TLOK, i will choose TLOK in a heartbeat. Still thankful ATLA introduce Kyoshi though, my top avatar, next is korra.
I never understood that hate towards Korra. I get the arguments and I agree with some but it was still good. I personally loved it and I have bingewatched the shit out of it.
Or maybe it wasn't good and that's the reason why it gets so much hate.
@@BlackuKnighto it is good, i dont get the worship ATLA gets, aang is a static character, all that power of white lotus and cannot stop the fire lord? The underwhelming finale, and that lion turtle that came out of nowhere, making all his adventure in learning the elements effort in vain. Heck aang as given all the control in the finale without showing he put some effort in it. In TLOK korra's struggle, on how she learned spirit bending, on learning how to be compassionate, it was all shown and she struggled to earn it.
@@carmcam1 lol, if you are able to see through some of the weaknesses that ATLA has, then how in the world are you so blind to the millions of issues that LoK has?
These videos are so good Matt. I remember watching the ninja turtles one and thinking the same. I really like it!
Good video man you explained it in a clear and fun way
As someone who didn't like Korra whatsoever, I still feel bad that it got this kind of treatment. I respect it for what it was, and recognize that not everything has to be for me. Informative video and glad to see you back.
Lol you hated it not knowing this I just feel blowen away like you probably hated it cause heared others hate it or cause you compared it to avatar the last air bender the entire time or oh cause korra cut of avatar cycle and is the new avatar cycle even though the literally didn't want to play up nostalgia and so how strong korra is as a character but yeah you just hated not knowing its production and didn't like its "pandering" and taking away your chances to see adult Anng man you would both hate and love boruto I bet....
@@NeahMinto88 Whoah there buddy, that's a lot of projecting.
@@NeahMinto88 Bigmad
It could've been for you if Nick handled the show a bit better.
The fight scenes were almost always on fucking point though. I would legit watch a whole show just following pro-bending tournaments.
While I agree the animation is top notch it does slowly feel less like an extension of martial arts and moreso like wuxia magic
@@itsjustvin7630 Martial arts is still heavily used for all the movements, just different types for different people.
Korra, Mako and Bolin tend to rely on MMA (mixed martial arts) type of combat with a lot of quick, direct jabs when facing someone 1 on 1.
However when facing multiple people, we’ve seen Korra even use hand to hand combat to subdue her foes and traditional bending styles still occur when she performs moves with airbending or water bending mostly.
Other characters like Tenzin, Kya, Unalaq, the twins and most of the adult characters, still rely on the “extension of the body” type of bending, and in fact, Sifu Kisu is still a combat coordinator for Korra just like in Avatar.
So I’m gonna disagree a bit with your point. Yes new bending styles are introduced but the classic bending style is still used fairly often.
@@Gamelover254 which means now all bending hardly has their identity in martial arts as they're all mixed the same now excluding the Airbender family
its been too long man, glad you uploaded a vid
Hey, new type of content! Love it. Nice one Matt, do what makes you happy.
Besides that weird second season, this show is really good
Edit: With weird I mostly meant pacing wise. Since nickelodeon fuckd the study so much, it was totally unfeasable to have a long build up to a grand finally with a raid boss like in the last airbender. So they took their chance and tried to wrap up the series trying to explain a bit of the world before saying good bye. This obviously backfired, but I can't say that I'm totally disappointed with the second season: At first I thought that it was going to be a huge letdown, that they were going to act like nothing happened and keep going, but I was really surprised when all the benders balance came into picture and starting giving random people airbending. Altough it seems a bit forced, it is quite intresting to see how they managed to make some sense out of that mess, sending shockwaves to a lot of parts of the next to seasons.
Side note: season 3 is fucking great, by far my favorite. Season 4 is ok besides the Evangelion Mecha that personally threw me off a bit.
Varrick is the best character, I'll murder anyone that thinks different
i think you mean the whole show being weird
@@crawlingboy its avatar so yes it's weird
No. its really really bad
I dont think season 2 was that weird, just the ending
@@lupin5512 airbender was wonderful especially the writing and it was the good weird
korra was the bad and stupid weird
This explains so much. I watched the first season of Korra and stopped afterwards due to personal problems, and was so confused why there were so much hate.
Yay another great magicharp video of something really interesting and in depth
Love the new style of your content Matt, between the 40K stuff and these indepth reviews your work has a more positive vibe, like you're happier and doing better. Tis good mate.
I feel like the one episode from ATLA focusing on Roku’s journey and downfall as the avatar was more interesting then all 4 seasons of LoK.
not gonna lie, I was already kinda upset about all that happened to the show, but seeing Nickelodeon use Korra for Pride Month promotion after not giving the show the climax of Korra's relationship with Asami is really fucked up.
I have a feeling korra and asami might have always been the plan
Definitely not the type of video i was expecting from this channel, but this was great
i would *pay* to keep watching these vids mat. Please make these more frequently.
I really enjoyed The Legend of Korra, I'm not sure what all the fuss is about :/
people find it the worst show ever made in history (not me tho, lok is one of my favorite animeted shows)
It has a lot of flaws.
Honestly I find it as lost potential. It's good but that's all itll ever be compared to ATLA which collectively gets praise to high heavens.
@@itsjustvin7630 see, that's what I think is wrong: comparing to other shows, following the production and waiting for new episodes drains out the enjoyment
@@carlomarzano2472 but here's the thing even when I watch for itself it's like what I have with Bleach, Naruto, Fairy Tail, or RWBY. Even if i like it the flaws and problems are still there
I absolutely loved LOK, I know lot of people didn’t but I love the characters
If it would have came out a few years ago when i was still a bit younger i think i would have liked it too, now im just kinda...disinterested sadly.
@@thesaviorofsouls5210 Same. LoK to me was made for even younger audience than the Last Airbender, it was focusing too much on political things and typical teenage love that it lost the charm of the Avatar series. TLA did have some problems in season 3 too but throughout everything the show was well-paced, not like LOK.
LOKmakes so many powercreep power compared to Last Airbender that made people feels like all the old characters from the previous series are weaker :/ The characters don't stand out too much too. Their characters require so much team dynamic that when they stand alone they feel like a hollow shell of the team. This didn't happen with TLA.
Not what I subbed for, but definitely what I want to see. This is cool. Thanks for the hard work!
Also, I would say season 3 of Korra was one of the best seasons of Avatar. I think it can stand it's ground against season 2 of last Airbender. No joke.
@@RJBond121 Season 3 is good, but it’s no last airbender seasons 2 and 3. In korra’s defense, how can you top that masterpiece tho?
i loved this episode pls more of this!!!