Exactly and people use it as an excuse to discredit girl group dances as well just because they might not look as powerful as boygroup dances when in fact most of them are just as difficult or maybe even more.
@@ccsbm208 I agree but many GG's don't have strong choreo. Many have basic choreo. Groups like red velvet, twice and loona I would say have very unique choreo. And red velvet has stage performances ,like twice that really are unique and change up. Not gonna lie, ppl should start respecting GG's on their dancing.They are more than visuals and fashion models, they should be noticed for their stage presence, charm, vocals and dancing. As a female I am being honest when I say not many gg choreos wow me, but the choreos that are hard, unique or something, are the ones that hardly get enough credit
People say "Oh, this dance is easy, I learnt it within ___ minutes" but there's a difference from being able to learn the dance fast and being able to do it well.
@Thy Nguyen i learn the dances depending on how much repetition theres is: for example some recycle movements (like loona's why not) but others dont (so what) and i like to learn the whole song from beginning to end so sometiems it takes way more than others.
Taemin's body control is unworldly for a self-taught dancer. Honestly, the only way to describe his dancing is... if it looks hard, it's hard. If if looks easy, it's even harder. I love his unorthdox method of dancing!
if im not wrong in some interviews he said that 'Move' choreo existed that way since he's thinking 'ah choreo of a song doesn't need to be so out of breath all the time to be amazing' after shinee comeback dance doesn't make him tired which makes him kinda disappointed since it doesn't feel so satisfying. so he definitely wanting to not go hard on the dance, but it just make it more harder for everyone 😭
I know this is like from ages ago but Taemin's "Advice" Choreography along with the rest of the members of ShiNee for "Don't Call Me" jeezz I could never.
when you said "if it looks easy, it's even harder" you kept me 3 years thinking about it. this is the ultimate truth. you simply KNOW and it is CORRECT.
omgeee. I was just bout to comment this! Lol. Like a lot of people hated on the song and the choreography cause they was like "iT JuSt DOeSn'T MaKe SenSe", like wtf is there to make sense?!? It's not something you see! It's something you FEEL. Like the song is such a VIIIBE and the Choreo goes so HARD even to this day. It honestly did not get the recognition it deserved with the Kpop community, but I guess that's what happens when Kpop actually puts talented stuff/people out. When this song and video had dropped I was so hallucinated by their movements. Deep into it. My friend tried to say "That's not even hard", like ok Ms.TwoLeftLeg. My inner dance girl fan girled AF to this debut song of theirs.
The 7th sense is just the best debut song I've ever heard and seen. You watch the MV and the first thing you think is "who are these guys?" And then, you become an nctzen :)
just watch this video again and there is part 2 of this, and i couldn’t agree more. For example, hardly can you see anyone cover 24h, mostly Fullmoon of Sunmi. I still have to say most of SM’s chreographies are very detailed. Best dancers in SM are usually good at popping, because this type of dance requires great control of body parts. You can do cardio yourself, but need train many hours to learn to control the moves and isolation
It's a difficult attitude to capture. The dance comes first. They aren't using the dance to convey an aesthetic, the dance _is_ the aesthetic. How can a tool be its own end result??? . It's like you are going to insist on using a hammer to build an Ikea bed that can only be built excellently with a hammer. Sure you can use screwdrivers, or books or even your bare hands, and the bed can still be built, but the Ikea bed, in its final form, shows you that there are certain things that only a hammer can do. "Look at how much I can push the boundaries of hammer use." Normally, the hammer is just one way to help build a bed, but in this particular case, the bed can't exist as beautifully without the use of the hammer. Every time you lie down and you feel perfect back support, somehow you won't think "This bed is really comfortable" but "Look how excellent a hammer can be". Sounds ridiculous? You bet, but that is the strange but completely understandable aesthetic of 7th sense, and all abstract art - if one learns to appreciate hammers.
Ha !O omg true... I really hope he debuts as a solo artist soon. He is a scene stealer fr... I love exo but Jongin as a dancer is just on a whole other level fr
That's a really good point, The 7th Sense isn't sexy or cute or sensual. I always thought it was haunting. Even the lyrics make up a different, more sinister story.
That’s why I love the song, it’s honestly up to anyone’s interpretation of what it is. For me, it gives off a hard to describe vibe. It’s fast but slow at the same time. Kind of like life, way too fast, but also way too slow.
I tried to do move in my bedroom and I can't dance to save my life so it looked like an absolute disaster Tbh I'm the person who learns every BTS chorus and they all look nothing like the original dance
@@Seriphina Not his fan cam from Boss being my favorite. As a person who doesn't know anything about dancing, I can say that I would have never thought of him to be a weaker dancer (meaning he looks good doing the choreos). I'm guessing that he's either strict with himself in general for both vocals/dance or he's gotten compared to other members because he can definitely dance. Recently it seems like he has gained more confidence in his dancing.
@@mellisalake7490 i'm not sure how interested you are haha but doyoung is one of if not the weakest dancers in nct. generally speaking, a lot of idols have this level of dance ability where they can get to the "execute the choreography without standing out in a bad way" level but they don't actually develop the required technique to have much going on in their body. doyoung in particular doesn't really have a lot of ease in his coordination. this is unlikely to be a result of being insecure in dance because it's more of a muscle memory thing but it could possibly exacerbate his already present uneasy coordination. with nct in particular, they often have to perform groovy choreography, and doyoung hasn't developed his groove, even as recently as baggy jeans (compare to mark, especially in that shoulder isolation move in the chorus). his isolations are lacking as well (honestly you could compare to any of them but ty and ten are generally pretty good with those so compare to them). doyoung lacks a lot of the finer control the others in 7th sense/baggy jeans unit have developed - this doesn't stop him (and other dancers like him) from executing the choreography and looking decent/good to the untrained eye but it is still a noticeable lack of technique. he also struggles with applying power and dynamics (not surprising - if you're working on executing the isolations, you're not really at the point where you're going to start worrying about your dynamics). none of this is to say doyoung is a bad dancer - bad dancers in kpop (by a very generous standard - judging them as idols with arguably sub-par training) are few and far between. but there's this thing with idols where they'll be able to execute choreography within a certain standard that is generally considered acceptable for idols. most of these idols develop technique in a very uneven way that would be considered weird and wrong for dance students but seems to actually just be a result of the kind of training these idols receive. idols seem to skip the "do a lot of drills to develop proper habits" step (which is generally the first thing you do as a dance student in studio - even people who learn just by freestyling end up doing a lot of drills (in freestyle format) - freestyling in hip hop for like a year is going to be a year of you grooving freely to the music, and that's how you develop your groove). this isn't really a bad thing for the standard that idols are trying to get to but it does result in most of them looking very same-y and having flawed technique (some exceptions - i'd say someone like wonbin riize still falls within the 'meets idol standards' category but mostly because he looks VERY fourth gen lol) because they never develop the technique required to go beyond "just execute the choreography." generally even the best among this group (which - they can be quite decent. not dragging them) execute the choreography in an ideal way without going past that. it's sort of a mindset thing, i think - seeing dance as a part of your job vs seeing dance as an artform you're pursuing and a means of expression. i would say someone like haewon who generally has very ideal execution of gg choreography is like this - she is materially doing all the correct things and it looks great and is very enjoyable to watch, but there isn't any inner expression beyond that. once again, not a bad thing. there are of course standouts (ten, mark, ty, etc) who go beyond this standard and nct does have sort of an unusually high concentration of people who end up looking more like dance students/arguably even professionals than idols who are just doing their job while dancing. some of them (ten, mark, ty, jisung, yangyang ig?, haechan too mb) are quite notable standouts but nct in general has a weirdly high number of members who actually do make stylistic choices and while they don't always go beyond the idol expectations in execution (mainly due to lack of technique), they're still a lot more interesting on average than most kpop bgs. like for stray kids (random example, not shading them lol) the only two i would say are actually interesting from a dance perspective are lee know (not stylistic at all but his technique is solid) and hyunjin (very stylistic) and everyone else is kind of just what you'd expect to see from an idol. in nct on the other hand, apart from like doyoung, taeil, maybe kun (and not sure about hendery and johnny i haven't decided yet) they all have qualities that still make them notable as dancers beyond just the basic "executes the choreography". like i wouldn't really say xiaojun is going above and beyond and blowing my mind but he does have an interesting sort of energy especially when doing gg choreo (even as a joke) that makes me want to enroll him in voguing classes. jeno has this interesting taeyong but with less refinement and more groove (and less injury prone also) thing going on. chenle seems to be developing a softer sort of groove that's not as big as the very old school hip hop groove mark has. jungwoo can't groove to save his life but his lines are actually quite decent and he uses his upper body in a lyrical way. jaehyun looks like he's actually a studio hip hop student. so like doyoung IS one of the weakest members in nct dance-wise but that's not really because he's bad it's mostly because he's in a group with a bunch of people who just have a lot more interesting elements to their dancing and he is kind of like doing the wonderbread version of the choreography.
@@ishathakor Sorry for the late response I just saw your reply. Thank you for taking the time to give a detailed/long reply. I'm always interested/open to learning about new topics although I don't know how long I'll remember it for. I do wish they would give proper training at least when it comes to technique to all idols because that could potentially physically harm them. Now it makes sense why as someone who doesn't know much about technique didn't think of Doyoung as a weak dancer. So he executes the moves but not with the right technique/adding stylistic choices. I think I understand that because some moves look more comfortable when other members are doing them. I don't know much about vocals either but it's kind of the same thing with vocals - you can hit the same note but not with the right technique or support. I've heard that Doyoung is one of the weaker dancers in NCT and did not mean to imply that Doyoung is better than other members but more that it wasn't to the point of him standing out from the rest of the group. Even if I don't know much I can tell that Mark, Taeyong, and Ten are really good at dancing. There's no denying their capabilities along with the other members. Ig it's a mix of my previous comment he thinks he can't dance because he's strict with himself to be as good as the other members. Thank you again! Although I still don't know much about dance at least I know more than I did before.
Move really is the final boss of Kpop choreos. Many have tried but no one has executed it as gracefully as Taemin, except the choreographer herself. Its been 4 years since I originally first saw it but my God im still mesmerized every time he performs it
no I NEED you to talk about Taemin's "Move" for a whole entire video. Everything you said in this video is so true honestly. Some dances look complicated because they are fast, but they can be simple hip hop moves, but the songs like Taemin's Move...... M A S T E R P I E C E
Yesss, finally somebody who knows what they're talking about. No shade to the other lists but most dances on there are fast, not hard. But for non-dancers, the fast ones just look more difficult. Taemin's choreos are insane though. That man has more control over his left pinkie than I have over my whole body. (That's a joke, I also dance but still lmaoo)
wow, i strongly agree at your words. thankyou for finding the words that i'm thingking this whole time but can't tell it with words. the "most dances on there are fast, not hard" is what i always think on every 'the hardest choreo in kpop' videos, no shades but that's facts so
Hannah the faster dances let you mess up or be sloppy once in a while and it won’t be that noticeable but slower dances you have to be more precise and sharp
@@yukihirarin3387 that's not always true though. Fast paced choreos move so quick that even a little mishap where you lose body control can be foreseen, but on the other hand slow paced songs like Move require such detailed and precise movements. That's probably the reason why some idols/dancers who cover Move seem a bit awkward sometimes.
most of these choreographies are not meant to be dance alone thats why when you try to do it alone it will look a little bit (using your term) hippoish...
I saw someone refer to themselves as a praying mantis having a seizure, and that is EXACTLY what everyone besides Taemin looks like doing this choreo. He's INSANE 🤯❤
Move’s choreography feels almost heavy but weightless and flowy at the same time and even though Im not a dancer, I’m amazed at how Taemin does it so flawlessly. He conveys the right emotions and the right feeling it’s so magical
It does frustrate me that a lot of noobs when they see a choreography with big hand movements and kicks they think wow this is hard, but being technical and in control is much harder
True... said from someone who is not an experienced dancer (I danced as a teen, I'm in my 30's), but I remember a lot of slower dances being way harder than fast moving pop, because fast movements can allow you a little leniency because in a group, it's harder to make out the mistakes (unless you are an experienced dancer). Slower and technical movements have so many components to them I never reached that level (I stopped dancing because my last dance teacher was a really bad one).
Yeah, when you look at difficult as in complicated and fast choreos most members usually look good, but in the slow, expressive and controlled choreos the "real" dancers stand out.
the most wild part about move is the fact that taemin almost does the movements backwards of what you would think. most people move their muscles down for the dance, but he's lifting up. it's wild to even try to replicate his abdominal movements.
I learn so much from people like you. I LOVE Taemin but I am not a dancer -- when folks like you explain it helps us all enrich our experience. He is a god!
NCT was honestly insane for debuting with 7th Sense, you had to know from there that they were gonna be some seriously talented dancers and hard choreographies in this group 😩👏🏽🔥
As a dancer who had competed internationally(not bragging) and who's so used to seeing a lot of technically hard dances, I can say that seventeen, NCT, and Shinee are the ones who appealed for me. -Seventeen's choreographies are well done, they do a lot of quick steps but everyone moves as one (that's great teamwork over there), advantage of seventeen is that all of them can actually dance like a main dancer. Their synchronisation is amazing it's so clean no one is falling behind, hoshi did well on the choreography. It's amusing and entertaining as I noticed that hoshi does lyrical steps with on-beat steps, their dances always compliments well with their songs. -NCT(all units) their choreographers did an absolute amazing job. But one more that fascinates me is that how their dances are almost singing the song. NCT's dances are complicated yet tactfully organised. It's so precise and smooth but rough at the same time, it gives the feels like the lyrics are in the members bodies and it naturally moves inside them. Their dances are also awkward when done by others coz' generally the steps are so chronical, like a beat-killer moves and has twist after twist, yet NCT done them gracefully, this just says that they are great dancers. -Shinee, I love Shinee's dances, they make it look easy but are actually not. Unlike NCT & SVT their dances ofcourse are different from the newer generations but Shinee's dances are just surprisingly nostalgic, because it has the elements of the old school hiphop, old school or the OG dance steps yet so satisfying to watch even til now. Their steps are really awkward, even a pro dancer finds it hard to do same exact like how the members did it because choreography wise, their dances needs the right projection, the right flips and flicks, the right angles(coz' i noticed there are lots of geometric steps) the proper balance and the proper vibe. No one can dance Shinee dances like Shinee.
@@vanhminglianitochhawng3209 personally, not really but their choreos are precise and it matches their songs really well, like red velvet, they focus more on the hand movements and their moves are beautiful and has swifts, and for snsd, well I can say that their choreo on their debut song intnw is difficult because it's old school choreo, it has unusual movements unlike today's common choreos, and the boys' choreo is also quite difficult but the rest are manageable and quite easy, well for me of course, im sure some find their dances difficult.
@@JobelleLagonoy yuuuup! Teen Top, B.A.P, 24k, their dances are cool. Teen Top has a lot of foot work and their dances are pretty exhausting but since I dance mostly hiphop with a lot of footworks or 'house' or 'shuffle', i find it manageable.
SM in general is a beast with choreo but Move is such an intimidating dance. It's so hard to get right and so easy to make yourself look like a worm just wiggling all over the place.
@@cupcake6986 And now Criminal is the super boss after that, I recently did a cover of Move, it's up on my channel and I would appreciate it if you guys check it out!
As a dancer myself, I agree with NCT U- The 7th Sense. When I first learn the choreography , I was having a pretty hard time trying to remember the whole thing, because there was so many detail, straight out from the intro to the end. I still manage to learn the choreography, but boy when I tell you, it was a pain in the butt:~ I had a feeling that maybe the concept didn’t really suit my style and to be honest, I have no idea what kind of concept it was.
Because groups with big names get more attention. As long as you put the right people in the thumbnail you'll get views almost by default haha. They don't care about the actual dancing because if they did videos like this would be more popular. Not that I'm putting down any groups performing on stage alone is hard enough.
I've been insulted many times when I actually called out some of the bullshit I've seen about "hard" choreography. They claim it's their "opinion" but none of them really danced. And they just attacked you because you know their fave's choreo is actually not hard (and I know beacuse I've been dancing to kpop song since 2009 until now).
@@axisboise People saying these are hard have never dancer either, or are really bad if they claim these the hardest. I was laughing the whole video, especially when it said "it is hard for those who can't pop" - bruh then every choreo is hard for a certain type of people.
Seventeen's synchronization is everything. We thought dance moves can ruined by with more members n it's looks unclean but it's not with SVT. Their every moves/spots/position/synchronization always used to look so perfect n so clean.
Well yeah, to execute a dance with a group it would be more difficult to synchronize with others. But they're not synchronizing themselves with each other. No dance group should. They sync themselves with the music. Once you all know how to move along the music, you'll all be able to dance in sync.
This is the reason why I always question people who say SM are only known for having artists with outstanding vocals and visuals but let's admit that they also have incredible dancers who can execute insane choreos. ✨
Indeed, the thing... is that people only look for fast and complicated choreos full of fast and rude movements, SM is more artistic along with their concepts and voices. Is not the hard of the steps is the art on it and we can super see that in taemin, Shinee, red velvet etc
Agree, Taemin's Move has been covered by SO MANY IDOLS and dancers but noone ever come close to what Taemin does. When Taemin does it, it's so mesmerising, like I'm hypnotized by the way he moves.
@@mishi.babyarts I mean they did well but if you compare it to how he does it it's not the same obviously because they literally made the song and the dance based on taemin and the way he moves and how his body is. Like his dance style is completely different from the dance styles of twice and they killed it honestly like I give them 100% cuz they did it justice not a lot of people can do that.
kpop fans tend to say a choreo is "easy" or "simple" when really its just _visually simplistic_ and maybe easy to mimic the basic movements, but that's not what it's about. I honestly can't stand watching the majority of dance covers on youtube because even if they basically have the movements and formations down, it just _never looks right._ Like with Move, there's really not much going on visually to the untrained eye but unless you're a highly trained dancer or maybe some kind of magician, it's never gonna look right. a lot of the "hardest" dances other people talk about might just be kind of tiring or a lot to keep track of and remember for somebody who doesn't dance. they look scarier because there's a lot of movement.
Well I guess you could call my eye "untrained" but I definitely have an eye for detail when it comes to dancing. I'm no dancer but I have a huge appreciation for dancing! First time I saw MOVE I was like, dang, it looks like he's not doing much but this is EVERYTHING! Man I just cringe so much at all those dance covers out there 🤮
It's an urban dance at the same time, not the chill kind of urban. It has hard hits and then smooth. That's why I love watching 7th sense, I tried to learn it.... but in the long run, I realized how HARD it was. I gave up HAHAHAHA
Very NEO indeed. That's why I find their music and dance very cool & unique. They also incorporate very detailed small hand movements to their choreo which I find so cool! For ex how Taeyong was rolling a small imaginary toy firetruck with his hands for their Firetruck performances.
Taemin is practically water his moves are so fluid. Love getting perspective from actual dancers with proper understanding of movement in these choreos! Thank you!
Coming from a dancer too, I completely agree with the majority of things you've said in this video. Especially at the end when speaking about Taemin. I have many male friend dancers and they think Taemin dancing is so cool and they find it so hard to master his dancing since Taemin has complete control of what seems like every inch of his body. I can still remember them trying to dance to Move and they practically gave up in the first 5 mins (it was for fun) since they couldn't do it like Taemin ha ha. Anyways, great video!! :)
Honestly lm a dancer too but l find taemin dance little hard bc I have to have control with it if that makes sense and like nct or like bts or alot of other artist l find their dances the easiest but l mean ppl are different but lm just saying yk l hope this made sense
Ex dancer here, completely agree. Taemin's choreographies could very easily look sloppy if you don't have complete control of your body. Subtle and core movements like he's doing are what I found the hardest when I used to dance, he's so good at perfecting even the smallest movements and details. He's beyond impressive, miss moving my body like that sometimes
I’m a dancer with pretty good body coordination, did ballet for 5 years, now in hip hop, but even then, Taemins choreography is insane. For move, I can only do the first chorus as it’s simple steps, so I can focus on coordinating every part of my body.
i learned this dance almost when it came out, i still practice it and record myself and think i’m doing okay and not bad (most of the time i think i look bad even if i nail it) and now i think i may be doing something wrong cause i don’t think the choreo is that hard tbh BUT everyone is different
Vastra B there so many “hardest Kpop dances” videos that don’t show actual hard dances. Just because something’s fast paced doesn’t mean it’s hard. Sometimes the slower things are harder since you have to have more control
tbh I find that astro, nct and seventeen have the most difficult choreos because of the certain weightlessness/elegance or preciseness needed to execute the moves well
NCT, Ateez, Seulrene, Shinee, TXT, Seventeen, BTS and more are serving us different variety of dances. I seriously love their choreographies and dance executions.
Hoddy actually, no. To be able to achieve taemin’s level of fluidity and musicality takes a whole lot of hard work and natural-born talent. Sure you can claim to be able to pull the moves, but to claim to be able to express yourself exactly how taemin does it is another story.
7th sense is more “dark alluring” as a concept. It’s not sensual but there’s something very mysterious and enticing about the isolated video, the bleak filters of colour, the slow and subdued song that doesn’t ever pick up a lot of speed or builds intensely. It draws the viewer in and feels like being trapped in a dream. The dance style would probably be lyrical hip hop, that’s just hard to pull off.
K S I think that’s the point considering the original name for 7th sense is synchronization of your dreams. it’s really mysterious but looks pretty awesome tbh
I can't agree more with you. I love almost all NCT songs, but the 7th sense will always remain to me as their best song/mv/concept forever (Best debut song for a group too). When I saw it for the first time, I was speechless. I couldn't even fangirl, it felt like I was hypnotized. I hope they'll do something new along the lines of this "dark alluring mysterious" concept (as you defined it so well)
As a dancer, I think that the group Astro has the most difficult choreos because it’s a masterful blend of flowy classical jazz/musical theatre but also really fast pop/hip hop style. There’s always at least one set of double pirouettes in their songs and some have jumps and crazy acrobatics it’s so cool but takes so much time to master.
I may not be a dancer and im an aroha this may sound a bit biased but literally astro is soo underrated esp with their dances in the first part of baby the first step is already hard and fast ( in my perspective ) they have many pirouettes in their dances and i was so in awe when they did baby 2X speed esp with the many jumps in the choreo i love them so much and im so glad that a dancer commends their efforts
Exactly and also the fact that they're 6 member group and no one is put in the back to create that center it's sooo cool!! My bois deserve so much appreciation!! :')
the fact that taemin is in here twice, from the beginning to now, says a lot. he went from "my dance moves are hard to do" to "now my moves are almost impossible!"
I haven’t seen much of Taemin’s solo work but wow, I definitely agree on that dance being one of the hardest I’ve ever seen. At first, as a non-dancer, I used to just think that fast = hard, which for some it can be, but I grew to realise it’s more about precision and control. It’s really hard not to look silly when you’re dancing so slowly and sensually, even if it looks easy to do. Well, easy to learn maybe, but not easy to actually pull off. I could try, but without experience I would never master the way Taemin or his dancers move.
And his hard choreographies like Criminal, famous, drip drop and Advice is really hard. He is a good dancer so the choreographers also feel challenging to make the best choreos for him.
I expected nothing less from Kuharu Sugawara, the beautifully talented choreographer behind Move. It is crazy how i was familiar with both Kuharu and taemin separately before seeing them clashing together on different projects. Wonderful.
Look up beckdrop and he a gender transition dance timeline on his channel. Look in the description and look for the song. He did a pretty damn well attempt, but it certainly wasn’t perfect. Closest any of us could probably get to being perfect tho
Taemin is in a class all his own, his movements are so fluid and sensual. People always say "so and so is better" nah bitch.. i haven't seen anyone match how boneless this man is.
exactly! he likes to play himself off as an old man with achey bones but when its time for business, he goes off. lol. i really hate when people who obviously ignore or don't listen / watch taemin say that this guy from exo or bts is better, and call taemin 'nugu' like i really HATE that word used that way...
couldn't say it any better. Taemin is just Taemin. (laughed when i read "boneless", it's damn true.) when "Move" came out especially, i couldn't even stop replaying that dance pratice video, woah.
Things like this give you a whole new sense of respect for idols, even the worst dancers have more talent in their little finger than I do in my entire body
As a dancer too, Taemin's choreographies are also the most difficult for me There's something about that man's natural groove that I can't replicate or remotely resemble, let alone the insane amount of body control required for each and every choreo of his They might not be the most demanding but they are incredibly hard to learn and especially to master them and achieve not looking like a dying fish while doing it :')
To an outsider (unfortunately, I don't dance), it seems that Taemin's body dictates where he goes and moves on its own... Like... he isn't even trying.
omg tysm for including shinee and taemin !! ppl tend to discredit their impact and the insane level of difficulty of their choreographies and its so frustrating to see because they walked so that so many of today's kpop acts could run.
@@MrBudderGoggles yes, some of them do lip sync but not very often. The is idols have playbacks which are played at a lower volume and to keep some parts of the song hyped up. For example, see this clip of lisa : ruclips.net/video/PIdT8Jp0RZc/видео.html at the part she does not sing you could here the play back "fact check" And also this performance of serendipity by jimin : ruclips.net/video/nS2x6BKMGWI/видео.html He is singing live but there's also a playback. The choreo is demanding and you could hear him breathing and the chorus is very hard to sing and dance at the same time so he only dances and let's the playback do its work. And right after the chorus, he is singing again. No hate just trying to explain it to you. I know this is longer than it should be but I can't stop myself from typing lol.
That's the age when a man's body is at it's physical peak so they say. Strong but flexible, recovers fastest etc. However, concentration really needs concentrating on. And outside influences can help that. Leader, teacher etc. It'sa kind ofalchemy when the 2 meet in agreement. E voila - NCT dream.
@@ajio1057 in terms of physicality, I agree, they definitely had a lot of advantages on their side. but as a dancer myself I found it extremely hard to garner the mental fortitude to learn choreography at the rate that they did when I was at their age let alone master the sheer variety of styles they do in a single phrase. I think they are truly a caliber of their own.
When I first watched Taemin Move (I was a beginner dancer at that time so I didn’t really know much about dance) I was like oh this looks really easy and probably is really easy I’ll learn and perfect it in a week. Onto my second year of being a dancer I now call this choreography the “cursed choreography” because never once in my entire dance experience I was able to get even close to what Taemin is doing it like mad respect to him and those backup dancers damn
i believe when Taemin-Move out, it's my second year (or maybe one year and half) being a dancer. At first glance i know it's NOT easy at all cause you can't copy or cover that body control skill from Taemin. I always try to cover it but in the end i just made a new choreography cuz what Taemin does is super difficult for me. Ever since then, when Move played i just playing along and dance with my choreography instead.
I think that somebody who trained as a technical dancer and did other types of dance like hip hop would have the least difficult time doing this because in dance like classical ballet almost every movement is supposed to look effortless and elegant.
@@bridgdjxnfkdzkx yes I agree, but this is elegant hip-hop, which is so hard, because ballet is all about looking elegant and hip-hop is all about looking confident and strong and the easiest way to look strong is to look big and loud, so they have to look strong without looking big and loud which is why I find this so impressive
My hearteu honestly it looks easy but the movements are very precise and you have to have tons of control of your body and be on beat. I never attempted move because I knew how hard it was 😂😂
Tbh, I think the dance is awkward. It has a lot of kinda strange moves, but because the 5 of them are so talented it works. The idea was to do something kinda weird and foreign (which is why it is the 7th sense, even beyond the 6th sense) and they totally did that. I am always so impressed by watching them.
Taylor Goff yeah the moves are kinda strange and different from what we usually see thats why it only works if you really know how to, it works for them
yes to shinee's lucifer. that was the first choreography that really made my jaw drop to the floor. and i might be wrong but i think it also catapulted the trend of uploading dance practices. the synchronization, the speed and uniqueness of lucifer makes it iconic. also happy you added infinite because i totally forgot about them and when i heard the chaser again it gave me chills. a group right now that impresses me with their choreography is literally any NCT dance but for me cherry bomb remains my favorite
This just may be biased but I always feel super impressed and refreshed when watching SM dance practices because it always feels very catered to the dancer and their style while retaining the concept of the group. For example, NCT Dream has always been given very involved choreography meaning floor work, innovative transitions like in We Young, or very outlandish moves not commonly seen like high kicks. It is because they are meant to be the "youth" of the company and the future, so they push them to be a sort of team that is always interconnected and fast-paced with energy. It is the same for Taemin, it is like the choreography was made for him because he has a very smooth and delicate body that exudes sensualization. It is also taken to account he is a solo vocalist so the simple moves matched with his dancing performance are the perfect combination. And this applies to most SM artists, especially when you can see the transition of their music and dance careers. I am not the most credible dancer but from observations and learning dance what I see most in SM dancers are control, stamina, and the ability to experiment which is what makes them so beautiful, engaging, and powerful.
Idk but i feel like Move was choreographed by Taemin 😂 and it gives me chills everytime I watch the dance practice cuz the choreography gives the song so much more feels to it, as if the song depicts his own obsession about the girl that he imitates her moves and elegance. Gosh it's just all-rounded art cattering for you on a silver platter.
@@honganh1750 it was choreographed by Taemin and Koharu (he filmed duo version of the choreo with her) and as i remember with another korean choreographer who often works with SM
@@sofigodoy4811 ikr i hate how new fans think only girls generation and big bang were queens/ kings, when every old fan remembers how iconic infinite was
@@sofigodoy4811 I think it's because today having really insync and "sharp" choreos is the norm but people don't realize it was groups like infinite that really pushed that style
@@washingmachine4993 well..tbh, I think even new kpop fans don't consider Big bang or girls generation as kings/queens. All they see these days are BTS, Blackpink.. (no offense, that's just what i've heard a lot). Like especially Big bang are literally forgotten by new fans. But since i'm a old kpop fan I do remember all those bands, including infinite. They really are true legends!♡
Move by Taemin is EXTREMELY difficult. They are moving at such a different tempo from the beat. Almost like someone put them on slow motion and kept the beat going normal. Naturally your body wants to follow the beat but like you said body control that Taemin and his dancers have is crazy. You even have to control how fast you breathe because breathing hard while doing the slow
Actually, debut songs often have some of the hardest choreos. I believe charissahoo (youtube) explained this: since this is their first impression they really want to show everything they're capable of.
@@c.r2135 Dancing good is a must for any idol, and companies (with high standards) do indeed make their idols train on hard songs, however there are very few ones that debut with such a complex song besides from companies like SM (and exceptions like infinite, SEVENTEEN). Don't delude yourself, if everyone was able of dancing flawlessly to songs like NCT's right from the start, kpop wouldn't be the same lmao. Most kpop dancers are average, usually kpop groups have 1 to 3 great dancers (depends on the number of members) and the rest are good, average or low-key bad (but in comparison to non dancers, they're of course another level). SM has always set the bar high for dancing, singing and visuals, they don't follow kpop standards, they are WAYY above them. And that's why SM has some of the best vocalists and the best dancers too (literally NCT, SHINee have no bad dancer. NCT has about 4 main dancers and like 10 members or more that qualify for lead position).
Late as hell but MAJOR props to TAEMIN’s bd’s. Move is a devil to learn and they killed it and obviously TAEMIN. Also floor work is equally as difficult 😐 props to NCT too.
Okay, it’s cool that the creator of this video can dance but for people that suck at dancing. Well... every single dance seems hard to us. Just for a few exceptions to be honest. :) When I typed a few, I am serious. XD
I swear the only people that can't appreciate NCT choreos are people that watched the dance only once. The more you watch it, the better it gets because you start to realize all the details that you wouldn't have noticed if you only watched it once. Also their choreos are pretty unique in my opnion so they might look weird at first watch but the more you watch it, the more addicted to it you will get I swear!!! (Also other idols dancing to NCT or cover dancers dancing to NCT really doesn't do justice, they never ever look even close to looking as good as NCT dancing to the songs)
also! just wanna add that a lot of their choreos may seem not too hard at first, but is mostly very ‘awkward’ to pull off & look cool in which is another reason why it’s so gooooood
@@mct8643 I totally agree like they look extremely cool dancing but if u were to think about a specific move or try to do it yourself it looks incredibly awkward
Nct 127 Cherry Bomb chorero was insane like in the best way honestly when I saw Loona cover it I was a bit shocked cause they’re literally one of the only groups to come close to matching the energy of Nct
@@Sunfl0w3r23-j5c I actually think that Loona gave it their own energy instead of trying to copy NCT's and failing at it (because no one can do it like them) I think they gave it a nice girl crush, powerful women vibes instead of just trying to be like NCT if that makes sense and I love that! There's clearly a reason why Loona is known for their performance because they are amazing at it. I don't know if I will ever end up stanning Loona since I already have a hard time keeping up with all the groups I stan already, but since So What era, I have been keeping my eye on them and casual stan them and I definitely enjoy their talent and energy. Their cover is the only NCT cover that I actually enjoy watching
@@targetbleach8689 yes I totally agree with you honestly I’m not a big fan of Loona music like it’s just not my thing but performance wise they’re amazing
A lot of choreography from SHINee is extremely difficult, thanks to Rino Nakasone. However, SHINee members digested the steps very well and made them like real arts.
![[Rainbow V] TEN X WINWIN Choreography : lovely (Billie Eilish, Khalid) (ring and portrait remix)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8ovHSQwp1n0/mqdefault.jpg)
people nowadays think hard choreos are only when idols are on the brink of breaking their bones, but this proves that it aint just that
lol say it louder
Exactly and people use it as an excuse to discredit girl group dances as well just because they might not look as powerful as boygroup dances when in fact most of them are just as difficult or maybe even more.
@@ccsbm208 I agree but many GG's don't have strong choreo. Many have basic choreo. Groups like red velvet, twice and loona I would say have very unique choreo. And red velvet has stage performances ,like twice that really are unique and change up. Not gonna lie, ppl should start respecting GG's on their dancing.They are more than visuals and fashion models, they should be noticed for their stage presence, charm, vocals and dancing. As a female I am being honest when I say not many gg choreos wow me, but the choreos that are hard, unique or something, are the ones that hardly get enough credit
Namjoon's Dimples PABO weki meki
@@ailinhernandez5004 GFriend are the queen of dance among cute ggs. I like to cover their dances.
People say "Oh, this dance is easy, I learnt it within ___ minutes" but there's a difference from being able to learn the dance fast and being able to do it well.
🙌 yess preach
Ikr?
@Thy Nguyen YESSS SAMEEE
@Thy Nguyen i learn the dances depending on how much repetition theres is: for example some recycle movements (like loona's why not) but others dont (so what) and i like to learn the whole song from beginning to end so sometiems it takes way more than others.
@Thy Nguyen PLS I LEARN THE DANCES SO FAST THEN SPEND DAYS CORRECTING IT BC I LOOK LIKE A HEADLESS CHICKEN 😭😭😭
Taemin and his magical tshirt on Lucifer and Move
That shirt hurts my eyes to the point where I can't watch the video.
😂 we love the shirt for blinding us (💕Taemin *i see Taeyeon 💕💕💕*)
i t s m o v i n g
His shirt was one of the things that made me choose him as my shinee bias tbh. The fact that I was so mesmerized by it drew me in.
I am hipnotyzed till now bcuz of that
Taemin's body control is unworldly for a self-taught dancer. Honestly, the only way to describe his dancing is... if it looks hard, it's hard. If if looks easy, it's even harder. I love his unorthdox method of dancing!
Yass and we must thank Koharu Sugowara as well
if im not wrong in some interviews he said that 'Move' choreo existed that way since he's thinking 'ah choreo of a song doesn't need to be so out of breath all the time to be amazing' after shinee comeback dance doesn't make him tired which makes him kinda disappointed since it doesn't feel so satisfying. so he definitely wanting to not go hard on the dance, but it just make it more harder for everyone 😭
I know this is like from ages ago but Taemin's "Advice" Choreography along with the rest of the members of ShiNee for "Don't Call Me" jeezz I could never.
He is SELF TAUGHT?!?!?
when you said "if it looks easy, it's even harder" you kept me 3 years thinking about it. this is the ultimate truth. you simply KNOW and it is CORRECT.
Hats off to all those girls who were Taemin's back dancers.
Yessss they're gorgeous and so talented!!
@@reharm_reality I know right! I would probably dislocate every bone in my body if I were to try his choreos.
Holy shit! So many likes and a heart! Mom I am famous!
Taehyuk Kim there is one I love so much. They all have to keep straight faces, but she looks so happy to be in the MV!
I would love to see a whole video on just Taemin)s choreo.
“The granddaddy of all hard choreos”
Enter Taemin who has debuted in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th gen of Kpop
shes saying since it came out there havent been any harder dances. what taemin does is phenomenal.
Your name is amazing lmao
2nd gen with Shinee, 3rd Solo, and 4th with SuperM. I only noticed it jow
Get in loser we’re going jopping
Alright I guess we’re going jopping I-
omg your name-
Taemin: walking
* the hardest choreo *
We stan king like taemin.
Try to do it and slay it like him
I dare you
@@daotrang91 Taemin walks in real life? i thought he tripped 24/7
@@daotrang91 this is the most accurate description of Taemin I'm-
@@skyedances4267 He's tripping coz he's having to bend down and pick up everything he's constantly losing ;-)
Taemin be a dancing GOD. THAT BODY CONTROL WANTS TO KILL ME
"It's not sexy or cute so what is it"
It's art
Just straight up art
The 7th sense has always been one of my all time favorite choreographies
me too, i rarely ever see any appreciation for it
Still vibing with it till now. It is a pure masterpiece.
Same omg it’s 1 of my faves from nct
omgeee. I was just bout to comment this! Lol. Like a lot of people hated on the song and the choreography cause they was like "iT JuSt DOeSn'T MaKe SenSe", like wtf is there to make sense?!? It's not something you see! It's something you FEEL. Like the song is such a VIIIBE and the Choreo goes so HARD even to this day. It honestly did not get the recognition it deserved with the Kpop community, but I guess that's what happens when Kpop actually puts talented stuff/people out. When this song and video had dropped I was so hallucinated by their movements. Deep into it. My friend tried to say "That's not even hard", like ok Ms.TwoLeftLeg. My inner dance girl fan girled AF to this debut song of theirs.
The 7th sense is just the best debut song I've ever heard and seen. You watch the MV and the first thing you think is "who are these guys?"
And then, you become an nctzen :)
So it’s basically BoA was her own breed of artist, and now Taemin is another one.
yes
Shinee appreciation and boa appreciation makes me so happy to see 🥰
only sm things 💅
I feel like that's the goal: become your own entity like they did.
just watch this video again and there is part 2 of this, and i couldn’t agree more. For example, hardly can you see anyone cover 24h, mostly Fullmoon of Sunmi.
I still have to say most of SM’s chreographies are very detailed. Best dancers in SM are usually good at popping, because this type of dance requires great control of body parts.
You can do cardio yourself, but need train many hours to learn to control the moves and isolation
“I could talk about this choreo all day but I’ll spare you”
Me: no wait, come back
Literally me thoughhhh
Yes pls!! Analysis on move
Yes! Same here!
Indeeeeed!
Right. I'd watch a 40 minute analysis
The 7th sense is like an abstract type of dance because when you see an abstract art, you don't know what the hell it is but it's beautiful
It's a difficult attitude to capture. The dance comes first. They aren't using the dance to convey an aesthetic, the dance _is_ the aesthetic. How can a tool be its own end result???
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It's like you are going to insist on using a hammer to build an Ikea bed that can only be built excellently with a hammer. Sure you can use screwdrivers, or books or even your bare hands, and the bed can still be built, but the Ikea bed, in its final form, shows you that there are certain things that only a hammer can do. "Look at how much I can push the boundaries of hammer use." Normally, the hammer is just one way to help build a bed, but in this particular case, the bed can't exist as beautifully without the use of the hammer. Every time you lie down and you feel perfect back support, somehow you won't think "This bed is really comfortable" but "Look how excellent a hammer can be". Sounds ridiculous? You bet, but that is the strange but completely understandable aesthetic of 7th sense, and all abstract art - if one learns to appreciate hammers.
Both of your words are beautiful
I'm so proud❤
Oh wow
agree
lucifer was actually the first kpop choreography i tried to learn
key word: tried
I tried too and I gave up in like 2 minutes
@@elegantmelon2336 i gave up after watching the video
You should start with TT OR DDU DDU DU or Dumb Dumb
I tried...failed miserably
@@May_3005 dumb dumb is not easy for beginners especially that it needs flexibility
I mean that's Taemin... THE Taemin..
His shirt makes me dizzy... 😆
Exactly.
lol
comments: no one other than taemin can do move well
the backup dancers: hold up
TRUE
mas respect to all the backup dancers esp to really good dancers like taemin, chungha, etc
Taemin's 6 female backup dancers, Shownu, Jungkook and more can handle Move. Shownu handled it IN FRONT of Taemin with T following along behind....
and Taehyun and Yeonjun from TXT*
sooyeon is god
Shout out to young me who tried to learn Lucifer and almost died.
I had a horrible flashback of when I tried to learn the dance to Lucifer as soon as I heard the music.
I relate to this on a spiritual level.
I barely got the intro and gave the heck up.
HAHAHAHA you're not the only one
LOL BRUH SAME
The fact that T7S was NCT’s debut song, like the first ever unit and song composed of all the aces…They really didn’t come to play
NCT world domenation
Shinee lucifer is damn hard but it's harder to look at taemin shirt
😂😂😂 facts
He looks like a herd of zebras that's constantly moving 😂
HAHAHAHA I think that... and you see him with another difficult shirt in Move too hahahaha WTF?
@@sofiTackson thank god cameras got better
I had to look away for a sec😂😂😂
**Lucifer is on the list**
This was the first Kpop dance I ever tried to learn
*And I had never danced before that point*
Shit!!! Now I'm really happy that I wasn't the only one.
Make that two of us, i hurt my knee super bad i still have problems to this day, years later lmao
Me too tho WWWWW I was like "heyyy this choreo is cool and it's kinda look easy"
.....I'm deeply sorry, I was young and dumb.
yesss me too, still remember every moves tho
same tried to learn this... til up to this day
SM dancers are just on a whole other level
I think exo should be here or at least Kai
@@anapadilla1947 kai's choreo are not hard it's because he is an incredible dancer that it hives you that vibe.
Ha !O omg true... I really hope he debuts as a solo artist soon. He is a scene stealer fr... I love exo but Jongin as a dancer is just on a whole other level fr
Facts
@@hao9508 lucky one is crazy
"The 7th Sense" is a song that ONLY NCT can pull off, NO ONE ELSE CAN
and to think it was their debut song damnnnnn
actually bic from mcnd did a pretty good job covering it
Woahhhh.. That's their debut song?!
@@Sera_diary yuuuup it is
Actually one of their SM seniors can actually do that such as kai and taemin
@@opolotnicole7606 tbvh I didn't quite like it 😭
That's a really good point, The 7th Sense isn't sexy or cute or sensual. I always thought it was haunting. Even the lyrics make up a different, more sinister story.
long ass ride.
@@stannct25 except for maybe that part 🤣 damn you Mark.
I feel goosebump when watching the 7th Sense debut stage. So yeah, it was haunting/mysterious concept
I always thought it was more swag
That’s why I love the song, it’s honestly up to anyone’s interpretation of what it is. For me, it gives off a hard to describe vibe. It’s fast but slow at the same time. Kind of like life, way too fast, but also way too slow.
to be honest ANY Seventeen or NCT choreo is difficult. TAEMIN cannot be imitated so of course anything he does is difficult for anyone BUT him....LOL!
I tried to do move in my bedroom and I can't dance to save my life so it looked like an absolute disaster
Tbh I'm the person who learns every BTS chorus and they all look nothing like the original dance
1000th like :D
Yyy
any hahahahahaha
and sunmi ;)
The 7the sense being a debut song is unbelievable. It's my favourite kpop choreo and it's hard af
Same with Cactus, like dang. Way to give the trainees next-level anxiety for their debut!
@@raerohan4241 TXT too it's too tiring and requires a lot of energy. I guess rookies are more energetic but still...
@@raerohan4241 ^^^^
i wanna know what the song is about and why it is hard to communicate.I really like it though
right? and it's just overall such a unique song.
It's funny how Doyoung debuted with the 7th Sense, but he's out there saying he can't dance. We see you Doyoung. You're not fooling anyone.
I was looking for this comment
his audacity to say that he has no talent for dancing
He has his weaknesses in certain dances. Boss specifically, but he absolutely CAN dance.
@@Seriphina Not his fan cam from Boss being my favorite. As a person who doesn't know anything about dancing, I can say that I would have never thought of him to be a weaker dancer (meaning he looks good doing the choreos). I'm guessing that he's either strict with himself in general for both vocals/dance or he's gotten compared to other members because he can definitely dance. Recently it seems like he has gained more confidence in his dancing.
@@mellisalake7490 i'm not sure how interested you are haha but doyoung is one of if not the weakest dancers in nct. generally speaking, a lot of idols have this level of dance ability where they can get to the "execute the choreography without standing out in a bad way" level but they don't actually develop the required technique to have much going on in their body.
doyoung in particular doesn't really have a lot of ease in his coordination. this is unlikely to be a result of being insecure in dance because it's more of a muscle memory thing but it could possibly exacerbate his already present uneasy coordination. with nct in particular, they often have to perform groovy choreography, and doyoung hasn't developed his groove, even as recently as baggy jeans (compare to mark, especially in that shoulder isolation move in the chorus). his isolations are lacking as well (honestly you could compare to any of them but ty and ten are generally pretty good with those so compare to them). doyoung lacks a lot of the finer control the others in 7th sense/baggy jeans unit have developed - this doesn't stop him (and other dancers like him) from executing the choreography and looking decent/good to the untrained eye but it is still a noticeable lack of technique. he also struggles with applying power and dynamics (not surprising - if you're working on executing the isolations, you're not really at the point where you're going to start worrying about your dynamics).
none of this is to say doyoung is a bad dancer - bad dancers in kpop (by a very generous standard - judging them as idols with arguably sub-par training) are few and far between. but there's this thing with idols where they'll be able to execute choreography within a certain standard that is generally considered acceptable for idols. most of these idols develop technique in a very uneven way that would be considered weird and wrong for dance students but seems to actually just be a result of the kind of training these idols receive. idols seem to skip the "do a lot of drills to develop proper habits" step (which is generally the first thing you do as a dance student in studio - even people who learn just by freestyling end up doing a lot of drills (in freestyle format) - freestyling in hip hop for like a year is going to be a year of you grooving freely to the music, and that's how you develop your groove). this isn't really a bad thing for the standard that idols are trying to get to but it does result in most of them looking very same-y and having flawed technique (some exceptions - i'd say someone like wonbin riize still falls within the 'meets idol standards' category but mostly because he looks VERY fourth gen lol) because they never develop the technique required to go beyond "just execute the choreography." generally even the best among this group (which - they can be quite decent. not dragging them) execute the choreography in an ideal way without going past that. it's sort of a mindset thing, i think - seeing dance as a part of your job vs seeing dance as an artform you're pursuing and a means of expression. i would say someone like haewon who generally has very ideal execution of gg choreography is like this - she is materially doing all the correct things and it looks great and is very enjoyable to watch, but there isn't any inner expression beyond that. once again, not a bad thing.
there are of course standouts (ten, mark, ty, etc) who go beyond this standard and nct does have sort of an unusually high concentration of people who end up looking more like dance students/arguably even professionals than idols who are just doing their job while dancing. some of them (ten, mark, ty, jisung, yangyang ig?, haechan too mb) are quite notable standouts but nct in general has a weirdly high number of members who actually do make stylistic choices and while they don't always go beyond the idol expectations in execution (mainly due to lack of technique), they're still a lot more interesting on average than most kpop bgs. like for stray kids (random example, not shading them lol) the only two i would say are actually interesting from a dance perspective are lee know (not stylistic at all but his technique is solid) and hyunjin (very stylistic) and everyone else is kind of just what you'd expect to see from an idol. in nct on the other hand, apart from like doyoung, taeil, maybe kun (and not sure about hendery and johnny i haven't decided yet) they all have qualities that still make them notable as dancers beyond just the basic "executes the choreography". like i wouldn't really say xiaojun is going above and beyond and blowing my mind but he does have an interesting sort of energy especially when doing gg choreo (even as a joke) that makes me want to enroll him in voguing classes. jeno has this interesting taeyong but with less refinement and more groove (and less injury prone also) thing going on. chenle seems to be developing a softer sort of groove that's not as big as the very old school hip hop groove mark has. jungwoo can't groove to save his life but his lines are actually quite decent and he uses his upper body in a lyrical way. jaehyun looks like he's actually a studio hip hop student. so like doyoung IS one of the weakest members in nct dance-wise but that's not really because he's bad it's mostly because he's in a group with a bunch of people who just have a lot more interesting elements to their dancing and he is kind of like doing the wonderbread version of the choreography.
@@ishathakor Sorry for the late response I just saw your reply. Thank you for taking the time to give a detailed/long reply. I'm always interested/open to learning about new topics although I don't know how long I'll remember it for. I do wish they would give proper training at least when it comes to technique to all idols because that could potentially physically harm them. Now it makes sense why as someone who doesn't know much about technique didn't think of Doyoung as a weak dancer. So he executes the moves but not with the right technique/adding stylistic choices. I think I understand that because some moves look more comfortable when other members are doing them. I don't know much about vocals either but it's kind of the same thing with vocals - you can hit the same note but not with the right technique or support. I've heard that Doyoung is one of the weaker dancers in NCT and did not mean to imply that Doyoung is better than other members but more that it wasn't to the point of him standing out from the rest of the group. Even if I don't know much I can tell that Mark, Taeyong, and Ten are really good at dancing. There's no denying their capabilities along with the other members. Ig it's a mix of my previous comment he thinks he can't dance because he's strict with himself to be as good as the other members. Thank you again! Although I still don't know much about dance at least I know more than I did before.
You know when it will be a hard choreography when Taemin wears a striped shirt
I think it’s funny that Taemin is wearing a striped shirt in both move and Lucifer dance practices anyway stan the king of kpop
Shelby Jean :he's srsly obsessed with stripy shirts. 80% of his clothes are stripy thingy lol
Uuuu
Yyyy
Ttt
The one in lucifer his shirt was literally an optical illusion and was rly frickin distracting
stan loona
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@@wuwuink I-
@@wuwuink oH
@@wuwuink made me snort oml
@@wuwuink I snorted and I never snort.
Move really is the final boss of Kpop choreos. Many have tried but no one has executed it as gracefully as Taemin, except the choreographer herself. Its been 4 years since I originally first saw it but my God im still mesmerized every time he performs it
I love that video where Taemin is dancing with the choreographer ❤
no I NEED you to talk about Taemin's "Move" for a whole entire video. Everything you said in this video is so true honestly. Some dances look complicated because they are fast, but they can be simple hip hop moves, but the songs like Taemin's Move...... M A S T E R P I E C E
Yesss, finally somebody who knows what they're talking about. No shade to the other lists but most dances on there are fast, not hard. But for non-dancers, the fast ones just look more difficult. Taemin's choreos are insane though. That man has more control over his left pinkie than I have over my whole body. (That's a joke, I also dance but still lmaoo)
wow, i strongly agree at your words. thankyou for finding the words that i'm thingking this whole time but can't tell it with words. the "most dances on there are fast, not hard" is what i always think on every 'the hardest choreo in kpop' videos, no shades but that's facts so
Hannah the faster dances let you mess up or be sloppy once in a while and it won’t be that noticeable but slower dances you have to be more precise and sharp
If you can dance quickly you can dance slowly
@@yukihirarin3387 that's not always true though. Fast paced choreos move so quick that even a little mishap where you lose body control can be foreseen, but on the other hand slow paced songs like Move require such detailed and precise movements. That's probably the reason why some idols/dancers who cover Move seem a bit awkward sometimes.
Yukihira Rin AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I knew I’d see “Move” in there! I tried learning it but when I recorded myself I looked like a hippo prancing around...
😭😂 we can all relate
pls 😭 ty for making me laugh out loud
most of these choreographies are not meant to be dance alone
thats why when you try to do it alone it will look a little bit (using your term) hippoish...
I saw someone refer to themselves as a praying mantis having a seizure, and that is EXACTLY what everyone besides Taemin looks like doing this choreo. He's INSANE 🤯❤
Hi there queen , I am your subscriber ....
Move’s choreography feels almost heavy but weightless and flowy at the same time and even though Im not a dancer, I’m amazed at how Taemin does it so flawlessly. He conveys the right emotions and the right feeling it’s so magical
Me: *Wants to learn 7th Sense & Move*
Also me: *Has body of a T-Rex*
Rawr
I imagined that and it was funny as heck thanks.
I'm DeAd my mom woke up I laughed a bit too hard ShIIIIiiTTt!! And its almost 2 am
@Octavios Reaves I'll try😭
@@oh4178 R a w r
It does frustrate me that a lot of noobs when they see a choreography with big hand movements and kicks they think wow this is hard, but being technical and in control is much harder
True... said from someone who is not an experienced dancer (I danced as a teen, I'm in my 30's), but I remember a lot of slower dances being way harder than fast moving pop, because fast movements can allow you a little leniency because in a group, it's harder to make out the mistakes (unless you are an experienced dancer). Slower and technical movements have so many components to them I never reached that level (I stopped dancing because my last dance teacher was a really bad one).
@@luminoustarisma exactly and my college team do slow dances when they actually haven't learnt dance nor danced for a long time I'm like?
Yeah, when you look at difficult as in complicated and fast choreos most members usually look good, but in the slow, expressive and controlled choreos the "real" dancers stand out.
Is save me hard? from bts. Cuz they have to jump a lot. Know how to breathe and all and be in sync.
@@pigsthesedays2304 I think it pretty hard but for professional dancer it not that hard
the most wild part about move is the fact that taemin almost does the movements backwards of what you would think. most people move their muscles down for the dance, but he's lifting up. it's wild to even try to replicate his abdominal movements.
My god I never noticed that until now. Thank you for elevating my love for Taemin and MOVE even higher than before.
I learn so much from people like you. I LOVE Taemin but I am not a dancer -- when folks like you explain it helps us all enrich our experience. He is a god!
NCT was honestly insane for debuting with 7th Sense, you had to know from there that they were gonna be some seriously talented dancers and hard choreographies in this group 😩👏🏽🔥
As a dancer who had competed internationally(not bragging) and who's so used to seeing a lot of technically hard dances, I can say that seventeen, NCT, and Shinee are the ones who appealed for me.
-Seventeen's choreographies are well done, they do a lot of quick steps but everyone moves as one (that's great teamwork over there), advantage of seventeen is that all of them can actually dance like a main dancer. Their synchronisation is amazing it's so clean no one is falling behind, hoshi did well on the choreography. It's amusing and entertaining as I noticed that hoshi does lyrical steps with on-beat steps, their dances always compliments well with their songs.
-NCT(all units) their choreographers did an absolute amazing job. But one more that fascinates me is that how their dances are almost singing the song. NCT's dances are complicated yet tactfully organised. It's so precise and smooth but rough at the same time, it gives the feels like the lyrics are in the members bodies and it naturally moves inside them. Their dances are also awkward when done by others coz' generally the steps are so chronical, like a beat-killer moves and has twist after twist, yet NCT done them gracefully, this just says that they are great dancers.
-Shinee, I love Shinee's dances, they make it look easy but are actually not. Unlike NCT & SVT their dances ofcourse are different from the newer generations but Shinee's dances are just surprisingly nostalgic, because it has the elements of the old school hiphop, old school or the OG dance steps yet so satisfying to watch even til now. Their steps are really awkward, even a pro dancer finds it hard to do same exact like how the members did it because choreography wise, their dances needs the right projection, the right flips and flicks, the right angles(coz' i noticed there are lots of geometric steps) the proper balance and the proper vibe. No one can dance Shinee dances like Shinee.
Do you think SNSD or Red Velvet dance are hard?
How about Teen Top? Have you tried their dance moves?
@@vanhminglianitochhawng3209 personally, not really but their choreos are precise and it matches their songs really well, like red velvet, they focus more on the hand movements and their moves are beautiful and has swifts, and for snsd, well I can say that their choreo on their debut song intnw is difficult because it's old school choreo, it has unusual movements unlike today's common choreos, and the boys' choreo is also quite difficult but the rest are manageable and quite easy, well for me of course, im sure some find their dances difficult.
@@JobelleLagonoy yuuuup! Teen Top, B.A.P, 24k, their dances are cool. Teen Top has a lot of foot work and their dances are pretty exhausting but since I dance mostly hiphop with a lot of footworks or 'house' or 'shuffle', i find it manageable.
Maria Maecy what about stray kids, i always think their choreos are hard but im not a dancer
NCT need to get recognition for their crazy difficult choreos cause damn
agree strongly agree
AJ 110 absolutely agree
the truth
Y E S.
Yes
SM in general is a beast with choreo but Move is such an intimidating dance. It's so hard to get right and so easy to make yourself look like a worm just wiggling all over the place.
Dang 924 likes but no replies. But yes, I’ll agree with you because Move is really difficult
move is the final boss of kpop dances. dare to disagree
@@cupcake6986 And now Criminal is the super boss after that, I recently did a cover of Move, it's up on my channel and I would appreciate it if you guys check it out!
True n the worm thing 😂 😂
As a dancer myself, I agree with NCT U- The 7th Sense. When I first learn the choreography , I was having a pretty hard time trying to remember the whole thing, because there was so many detail, straight out from the intro to the end. I still manage to learn the choreography, but boy when I tell you, it was a pain in the butt:~ I had a feeling that maybe the concept didn’t really suit my style and to be honest, I have no idea what kind of concept it was.
FFS WHY DOES THIS NOT HAVE MORE VIEWS THAN THE COMPILATIONS FROM NON-DANCERS? Smh some people just don't want to be educated, huh?
That's so sweet of you!
Because groups with big names get more attention. As long as you put the right people in the thumbnail you'll get views almost by default haha. They don't care about the actual dancing because if they did videos like this would be more popular. Not that I'm putting down any groups performing on stage alone is hard enough.
people see what they are interested about, it's an amazing video but yeah
I've been insulted many times when I actually called out some of the bullshit I've seen about "hard" choreography. They claim it's their "opinion" but none of them really danced. And they just attacked you because you know their fave's choreo is actually not hard (and I know beacuse I've been dancing to kpop song since 2009 until now).
@@axisboise People saying these are hard have never dancer either, or are really bad if they claim these the hardest. I was laughing the whole video, especially when it said "it is hard for those who can't pop" - bruh then every choreo is hard for a certain type of people.
Seventeen's synchronization is everything. We thought dance moves can ruined by with more members n it's looks unclean but it's not with SVT. Their every moves/spots/position/synchronization always used to look so perfect n so clean.
Yes
And they make their own choreo 😭❤️ I'm always so proud of them
Well yeah, to execute a dance with a group it would be more difficult to synchronize with others. But they're not synchronizing themselves with each other. No dance group should. They sync themselves with the music. Once you all know how to move along the music, you'll all be able to dance in sync.
@@mrflip-flop3198 Yeah. But it's still harder to dance with more people because it's easier to mess up with the formation changes
@@mrflip-flop3198 true but many groups still aren't in sync. Seventeen is probably the most sync group
the 7th sense choreo literally scared me. i'm not even joking, it was so eerie
Chiku 2003 the song is scary itself
@@cotbegemot1 i haven't thought about the song in that way but it makes total sense now when you say it. such a unique song
If the 7th sense itself scared you you should watch the reversed 7th sense they performed on mama lol
I was so scary but im proud of it UwU
This is the reason why I always question people who say SM are only known for having artists with outstanding vocals and visuals but let's admit that they also have incredible dancers who can execute insane choreos. ✨
trueee
Indeed, the thing... is that people only look for fast and complicated choreos full of fast and rude movements, SM is more artistic along with their concepts and voices. Is not the hard of the steps is the art on it and we can super see that in taemin, Shinee, red velvet etc
who dare to say that? Do they not know Taemin and Kai?
Agree, Taemin's Move has been covered by SO MANY IDOLS and dancers but noone ever come close to what Taemin does. When Taemin does it, it's so mesmerising, like I'm hypnotized by the way he moves.
Twice momo nailed the choreography though
@@aaabst454 so did Mina, Chaeyoung, and Dahyun( all from twice)
TOTALLY AGREE
@@mishi.babyarts I mean they did well but if you compare it to how he does it it's not the same obviously because they literally made the song and the dance based on taemin and the way he moves and how his body is. Like his dance style is completely different from the dance styles of twice and they killed it honestly like I give them 100% cuz they did it justice not a lot of people can do that.
@@aaabst454 Momo did excellent
kpop fans tend to say a choreo is "easy" or "simple" when really its just _visually simplistic_ and maybe easy to mimic the basic movements, but that's not what it's about. I honestly can't stand watching the majority of dance covers on youtube because even if they basically have the movements and formations down, it just _never looks right._ Like with Move, there's really not much going on visually to the untrained eye but unless you're a highly trained dancer or maybe some kind of magician, it's never gonna look right. a lot of the "hardest" dances other people talk about might just be kind of tiring or a lot to keep track of and remember for somebody who doesn't dance. they look scarier because there's a lot of movement.
Ikr I barely see groups that covers a song that impresses me
uGLYMaTioN Animations okay but butterfly
Ikr
Yeah I think a lot of dances people think are hard actually just an aerobic workout, but not that technically challenging.
Well I guess you could call my eye "untrained" but I definitely have an eye for detail when it comes to dancing. I'm no dancer but I have a huge appreciation for dancing!
First time I saw MOVE I was like, dang, it looks like he's not doing much but this is EVERYTHING!
Man I just cringe so much at all those dance covers out there 🤮
The 7th sense
Point: “its not sexy or cute or sensual so what is it
Me: h-hard?-
New?/neo? That's why it is for nct?
It's an urban dance at the same time, not the chill kind of urban. It has hard hits and then smooth. That's why I love watching 7th sense, I tried to learn it.... but in the long run, I realized how HARD it was. I gave up HAHAHAHA
Very NEO indeed. That's why I find their music and dance very cool & unique. They also incorporate very detailed small hand movements to their choreo which I find so cool! For ex how Taeyong was rolling a small imaginary toy firetruck with his hands for their Firetruck performances.
Cool!!!!!!! It's damn cool!
Yep they just trying to flex thier dance skills lol
Finally someone said "Move" is a hard choreo, I'm absolutely obsessed with it, can watch it 24/7
Taemin is practically water his moves are so fluid.
Love getting perspective from actual dancers with proper understanding of movement in these choreos! Thank you!
He's a waterbender. Confirmed.
he IS a cancer :o
Coming from a dancer too, I completely agree with the majority of things you've said in this video. Especially at the end when speaking about Taemin. I have many male friend dancers and they think Taemin dancing is so cool and they find it so hard to master his dancing since Taemin has complete control of what seems like every inch of his body. I can still remember them trying to dance to Move and they practically gave up in the first 5 mins (it was for fun) since they couldn't do it like Taemin ha ha. Anyways, great video!! :)
Honestly lm a dancer too but l find taemin dance little hard bc I have to have control with it if that makes sense and like nct or like bts or alot of other artist l find their dances the easiest but l mean ppl are different but lm just saying yk l hope this made sense
Ex dancer here, completely agree. Taemin's choreographies could very easily look sloppy if you don't have complete control of your body. Subtle and core movements like he's doing are what I found the hardest when I used to dance, he's so good at perfecting even the smallest movements and details. He's beyond impressive, miss moving my body like that sometimes
I’m a dancer with pretty good body coordination, did ballet for 5 years, now in hip hop, but even then, Taemins choreography is insane. For move, I can only do the first chorus as it’s simple steps, so I can focus on coordinating every part of my body.
i learned this dance almost when it came out, i still practice it and record myself and think i’m doing okay and not bad (most of the time i think i look bad even if i nail it) and now i think i may be doing something wrong cause i don’t think the choreo is that hard tbh BUT everyone is different
Vastra B there so many “hardest Kpop dances” videos that don’t show actual hard dances. Just because something’s fast paced doesn’t mean it’s hard. Sometimes the slower things are harder since you have to have more control
tbh I find that astro, nct and seventeen have the most difficult choreos because of the certain weightlessness/elegance or preciseness needed to execute the moves well
I completety agree! Or from Stray Kids and BTS.
Astro is missing indeed especially because they use a lot of ballet in their choreography
@hwang hyunjin yea stray kids is so talented like I LOVE THEM
@hwang hyunjin I feel bad for every person who doesn't stan them 😔✊ Like they are talented, kind, handsome *AND* crackheads 😂💖
@hwang hyunjin 😂😂😂
NCT, Ateez, Seulrene, Shinee, TXT, Seventeen, BTS and more are serving us different variety of dances. I seriously love their choreographies and dance executions.
I actually saw Taemin's dance in a easiest dances compilation once. I about slapped my computer.
oof the ignorance 💀
whoever made the compilation is brain dead
Maybe it’s easy to their standard it’s really easy if you know how to Dance
Hoddy actually, no. To be able to achieve taemin’s level of fluidity and musicality takes a whole lot of hard work and natural-born talent. Sure you can claim to be able to pull the moves, but to claim to be able to express yourself exactly how taemin does it is another story.
@@225jm8 And thats why Taemin is a dancing KING
The fact that Red Velvet is the only gg here and naughty wasn’t released during this time sends
👑Queens👑 thing 👑
Rv in terms of dance is underrated imo😤
their song Be Natural is sadly very underrated
tbh back then rv were very popular for their hard dances compared to the rest of gg, and were always mentioned in kshows.
@@NikiWonoto26 it’s not their song it’s a cover of Be Natural by S.E.S which came out in 2000
7 years between lucifer and move and taemin is still wearing that shirt
I- 💀 💀
And I oop-
I got a headache from the lucifer shirt 😂
Actually it’s a different shirt 😂
The kid love his stripes 🤣🤷🏻♀️
3:00 “Its not sexy or cute or sensual so what is it” its SWAG
7th sense is more “dark alluring” as a concept. It’s not sensual but there’s something very mysterious and enticing about the isolated video, the bleak filters of colour, the slow and subdued song that doesn’t ever pick up a lot of speed or builds intensely. It draws the viewer in and feels like being trapped in a dream.
The dance style would probably be lyrical hip hop, that’s just hard to pull off.
K S I think that’s the point considering the original name for 7th sense is synchronization of your dreams. it’s really mysterious but looks pretty awesome tbh
dark alluring is the word, yes!
I can't agree more with you. I love almost all NCT songs, but the 7th sense will always remain to me as their best song/mv/concept forever (Best debut song for a group too). When I saw it for the first time, I was speechless. I couldn't even fangirl, it felt like I was hypnotized. I hope they'll do something new along the lines of this "dark alluring mysterious" concept (as you defined it so well)
God bless SM's choreographer...
wow- your comment explains it perfectly
As a dancer, I think that the group Astro has the most difficult choreos because it’s a masterful blend of flowy classical jazz/musical theatre but also really fast pop/hip hop style. There’s always at least one set of double pirouettes in their songs and some have jumps and crazy acrobatics it’s so cool but takes so much time to master.
I may not be a dancer and im an aroha this may sound a bit biased but literally astro is soo underrated esp with their dances in the first part of baby the first step is already hard and fast ( in my perspective ) they have many pirouettes in their dances and i was so in awe when they did baby 2X speed esp with the many jumps in the choreo i love them so much and im so glad that a dancer commends their efforts
I was looking for a comment like this because if not I was going to leave one haha. Astro’s dances are so complex!
Astro my ult group but as a dancer I can say I 100% agree with you
i agree they spin sooo much and hella fast as well in their dances I always struggle to learn and master
Exactly and also the fact that they're 6 member group and no one is put in the back to create that center it's sooo cool!! My bois deserve so much appreciation!! :')
the fact that taemin is in here twice, from the beginning to now, says a lot. he went from "my dance moves are hard to do" to "now my moves are almost impossible!"
I haven’t seen much of Taemin’s solo work but wow, I definitely agree on that dance being one of the hardest I’ve ever seen. At first, as a non-dancer, I used to just think that fast = hard, which for some it can be, but I grew to realise it’s more about precision and control. It’s really hard not to look silly when you’re dancing so slowly and sensually, even if it looks easy to do. Well, easy to learn maybe, but not easy to actually pull off. I could try, but without experience I would never master the way Taemin or his dancers move.
And his hard choreographies like Criminal, famous, drip drop and Advice is really hard. He is a good dancer so the choreographers also feel challenging to make the best choreos for him.
You definitely need to watch more Taemin ❤
NCT has literally insane choreography’s, and amazing dancers ofcourse
Me:*trying Taemin Move*
Mom: are you Dying or somethin'?
frrr lmao
So this video was basically "Rating kpop dancers from 0 - Taemin"
Yes
Yes, but no.
best comment ever 😂💎✨
Yes sweetheart 😁😁😁
Not from '0' to taemin tho. If they were at level 0 they would never be in this video
I expected nothing less from Kuharu Sugawara, the beautifully talented choreographer behind Move. It is crazy how i was familiar with both Kuharu and taemin separately before seeing them clashing together on different projects. Wonderful.
It's safe to say that only nct themselves are the only ones that can nail the 7th sense perfectly
i agree, i strongly agree.
The fucking Ace line. The core line of NCT
Look up beckdrop and he a gender transition dance timeline on his channel. Look in the description and look for the song. He did a pretty damn well attempt, but it certainly wasn’t perfect. Closest any of us could probably get to being perfect tho
This is so true.
I agree with u like even in the start you can tell it will take a decade to do it properly 😀
Taemin is in a class all his own, his movements are so fluid and sensual. People always say "so and so is better" nah bitch.. i haven't seen anyone match how boneless this man is.
exactly! he likes to play himself off as an old man with achey bones but when its time for business, he goes off. lol.
i really hate when people who obviously ignore or don't listen / watch taemin say that this guy from exo or bts is better, and call taemin 'nugu' like i really HATE that word used that way...
couldn't say it any better.
Taemin is just Taemin.
(laughed when i read "boneless", it's damn true.)
when "Move" came out especially, i couldn't even stop replaying that dance pratice video, woah.
I always say he's the korean Michael Jackson HAHAHHAHAA This boy is so fucking talented, fucking shit! I wish the whole world could know him ;-;
Amen!
@@j2kay93 Oh I believe he has aches all over! He's been dancing for years, has got to be some damage.
Things like this give you a whole new sense of respect for idols, even the worst dancers have more talent in their little finger than I do in my entire body
The grandaddy of all hard choreos....hands down!!! You perfectly articulated "The Move". All the groups work so hard🙌🏻🙌🏻
Honestly Taemin is definitely only one of his own kind.
korean micheal jackson
kruweczki no, he is himself
There isn't anyone out there that's like him.
A true dance king
3:02 “it’s not sexy or cute or sensual so what is it”
Badass
It's NEO~~~
i've always said it's eerie
Exactly
lmaooooo
I've personally described it as pure dance. It doesn't have a particular story to tell but it does at the same time
As a dancer too, Taemin's choreographies are also the most difficult for me
There's something about that man's natural groove that I can't replicate or remotely resemble, let alone the insane amount of body control required for each and every choreo of his
They might not be the most demanding but they are incredibly hard to learn and especially to master them and achieve not looking like a dying fish while doing it :')
To an outsider (unfortunately, I don't dance), it seems that Taemin's body dictates where he goes and moves on its own... Like... he isn't even trying.
@@liviamoraes1272 That is the sign of an artist. You nailed it!
@@liviamoraes1272 he is in his zone when dancing
omg tysm for including shinee and taemin !! ppl tend to discredit their impact and the insane level of difficulty of their choreographies and its so frustrating to see because they walked so that so many of today's kpop acts could run.
Totally agree, happy to see they were referenced as paving the way!
And remember idols have to sing perfectly while doing the dance
Many of them don't do the chorus, but SHINee does and consistently performs studio quality live
I thought a lot of them just lip sync no? Nothing against that btw i just thought thats what they did
@@MrBudderGoggles yes, some of them do lip sync but not very often. The is idols have playbacks which are played at a lower volume and to keep some parts of the song hyped up.
For example, see this clip of lisa :
ruclips.net/video/PIdT8Jp0RZc/видео.html
at the part she does not sing you could here the play back "fact check"
And also this performance of serendipity by jimin :
ruclips.net/video/nS2x6BKMGWI/видео.html
He is singing live but there's also a playback. The choreo is demanding and you could hear him breathing and the chorus is very hard to sing and dance at the same time so he only dances and let's the playback do its work. And right after the chorus, he is singing again.
No hate just trying to explain it to you.
I know this is longer than it should be but I can't stop myself from typing lol.
@@krishnaprasad1693 ah i see, thanks
@Tina M. True
Me: pfft why are people even into kpop
Also me watching this video: how is a human capable of moving like that
Vanessa How
Well it’s humanly possible if you’re Taemin
@OXYLEN X True, But he is a vampire
Welcome to the hole.
welcome. you're now going to be a fan.
tskpop nooooooooo
the fact that the average age of nct dream when they learnt that choreo was around 17/18 astounds me! icons.
That's the age when a man's body is at it's physical peak so they say. Strong but flexible, recovers fastest etc.
However, concentration really needs concentrating on. And outside influences can help that. Leader, teacher etc.
It'sa kind ofalchemy when the 2 meet in agreement. E voila - NCT dream.
@@ajio1057 in terms of physicality, I agree, they definitely had a lot of advantages on their side. but as a dancer myself I found it extremely hard to garner the mental fortitude to learn choreography at the rate that they did when I was at their age let alone master the sheer variety of styles they do in a single phrase. I think they are truly a caliber of their own.
jisung was 15 😭😭
@@jolin1369 he is quite simply a dance prodigy in my mind!
Exactly like I'm 16 and can barely do the macarena without looking a fool
When I first watched Taemin Move (I was a beginner dancer at that time so I didn’t really know much about dance) I was like oh this looks really easy and probably is really easy I’ll learn and perfect it in a week. Onto my second year of being a dancer I now call this choreography the “cursed choreography” because never once in my entire dance experience I was able to get even close to what Taemin is doing it like mad respect to him and those backup dancers damn
i believe when Taemin-Move out, it's my second year (or maybe one year and half) being a dancer. At first glance i know it's NOT easy at all cause you can't copy or cover that body control skill from Taemin. I always try to cover it but in the end i just made a new choreography cuz what Taemin does is super difficult for me. Ever since then, when Move played i just playing along and dance with my choreography instead.
I think that somebody who trained as a technical dancer and did other types of dance like hip hop would have the least difficult time doing this because in dance like classical ballet almost every movement is supposed to look effortless and elegant.
I'm on my ninth year of dance and I 100% agree with you -- it is cursed
@@bridgdjxnfkdzkx yes I agree, but this is elegant hip-hop, which is so hard, because ballet is all about looking elegant and hip-hop is all about looking confident and strong and the easiest way to look strong is to look big and loud, so they have to look strong without looking big and loud which is why I find this so impressive
11th year and..
That shit is cursed bro.
"Move by Taemin is hands down the hardest choreo."
Me : Straight facts
Opinionated but I'm always spitting straight facts-mork lee
My hearteu Taemin be breaking everyone’s ankles
My hearteu honestly it looks easy but the movements are very precise and you have to have tons of control of your body and be on beat. I never attempted move because I knew how hard it was 😂😂
It's so much fun tho >_>
NCT is the best boy group right now. They deserve more recognition. INFINITE will always be the king of synchronization.
I'm sorry but SM bands have the most sophisticated choreography team
Dont be sorry, you're completely right.
I agree
yeah 100% agree
When they have Rino Nakasone, the mastermind behind Lucifer and Genie on their side literally nobody can touch them
i'm with you on this
nct u the seventh sense: it's just hard from the start to finsh
I agree
it requires many many many many body control.
incredible that it is a debut song tho
Ellie Ng and that's a debut song
7th sense is so damn hard its almost impossible to make a proper cover without looking awkward
Tbh, I think the dance is awkward. It has a lot of kinda strange moves, but because the 5 of them are so talented it works. The idea was to do something kinda weird and foreign (which is why it is the 7th sense, even beyond the 6th sense) and they totally did that. I am always so impressed by watching them.
Taylor Goff yeah the moves are kinda strange and different from what we usually see thats why it only works if you really know how to, it works for them
Agree! I think the best cover Ive seen is A.C.E's
yes to shinee's lucifer. that was the first choreography that really made my jaw drop to the floor. and i might be wrong but i think it also catapulted the trend of uploading dance practices. the synchronization, the speed and uniqueness of lucifer makes it iconic. also happy you added infinite because i totally forgot about them and when i heard the chaser again it gave me chills. a group right now that impresses me with their choreography is literally any NCT dance but for me cherry bomb remains my favorite
Actually, all the Seventeen choreographys makes u wanna cry if u try it
Thanks for warning me
Couldn't agree more😁
OMG YES LIKE seriously I thought how hard could it be and then I tried learning it... Holy fuck made me regret like how even I cannot
Not to mention how in sync they are
This just may be biased but I always feel super impressed and refreshed when watching SM dance practices because it always feels very catered to the dancer and their style while retaining the concept of the group. For example, NCT Dream has always been given very involved choreography meaning floor work, innovative transitions like in We Young, or very outlandish moves not commonly seen like high kicks. It is because they are meant to be the "youth" of the company and the future, so they push them to be a sort of team that is always interconnected and fast-paced with energy. It is the same for Taemin, it is like the choreography was made for him because he has a very smooth and delicate body that exudes sensualization. It is also taken to account he is a solo vocalist so the simple moves matched with his dancing performance are the perfect combination. And this applies to most SM artists, especially when you can see the transition of their music and dance careers. I am not the most credible dancer but from observations and learning dance what I see most in SM dancers are control, stamina, and the ability to experiment which is what makes them so beautiful, engaging, and powerful.
such facts youre an intellectual
Idk but i feel like Move was choreographed by Taemin 😂 and it gives me chills everytime I watch the dance practice cuz the choreography gives the song so much more feels to it, as if the song depicts his own obsession about the girl that he imitates her moves and elegance. Gosh it's just all-rounded art cattering for you on a silver platter.
koharu choreographed it no?
No, you're not biased at all. I'm not (really) an SM stan but I agree with those who say SM artists' dances are so dang hard
@@honganh1750 it was choreographed by Taemin and Koharu (he filmed duo version of the choreo with her) and as i remember with another korean choreographer who often works with SM
That “older” generation kpop groups like Shinee and Infinite are included makes me so so happy 🥺true kings are never forgotten
this! Seeing a Hard Kpop dances video that no even mentions Infinite is so lame, like, they were popular for their hard choreos and being in sync???
@@sofigodoy4811 ikr i hate how new fans think only girls generation and big bang were queens/ kings, when every old fan remembers how iconic infinite was
@@sofigodoy4811 I think it's because today having really insync and "sharp" choreos is the norm but people don't realize it was groups like infinite that really pushed that style
I haven't seen any new kpop compilation videos that include Infinite so this was super refreshing!! I miss that group so much
@@washingmachine4993 well..tbh, I think even new kpop fans don't consider Big bang or girls generation as kings/queens. All they see these days are BTS, Blackpink.. (no offense, that's just what i've heard a lot). Like especially Big bang are literally forgotten by new fans.
But since i'm a old kpop fan I do remember all those bands, including infinite. They really are true legends!♡
Move by Taemin is EXTREMELY difficult. They are moving at such a different tempo from the beat. Almost like someone put them on slow motion and kept the beat going normal. Naturally your body wants to follow the beat but like you said body control that Taemin and his dancers have is crazy. You even have to control how fast you breathe because breathing hard while doing the slow
WHY IS THE 7TH SENSE NEVER IN ANY HARDEST DANCE COMPILATIONS LIKE- A WHOLE CRIME THAT DANCE IS HARD ASF
been in this fandom longer than taehyung's forehead I’ve seen it in every compilation like that
It’s literally the 3rd song.
@@sihamabukar6439 i think op meant in other hardest dance compilations?
tbh, most of the ppl that makes this kind of compilations remembers only about bg songs
and it’s a debut song
Can i just say that taemin’s backup dancers are brave and talented souls
Fully agree
7th sense: “from start to finish this choreo is incredibly hard”
yeah, and nct do that hard things when they were debut
(sorry for bad english🙏🏻)
Vanessa Rose uh ur english was good ;)
Your English is great :] but like I agree they were doing hard choreography from literall beginning
All idols train with difficult choreo before debut so it's quite meaningless. Dancing good is a must for any idol.
Actually, debut songs often have some of the hardest choreos. I believe charissahoo (youtube) explained this: since this is their first impression they really want to show everything they're capable of.
@@c.r2135 Dancing good is a must for any idol, and companies (with high standards) do indeed make their idols train on hard songs, however there are very few ones that debut with such a complex song besides from companies like SM (and exceptions like infinite, SEVENTEEN).
Don't delude yourself, if everyone was able of dancing flawlessly to songs like NCT's right from the start, kpop wouldn't be the same lmao. Most kpop dancers are average, usually kpop groups have 1 to 3 great dancers (depends on the number of members) and the rest are good, average or low-key bad (but in comparison to non dancers, they're of course another level).
SM has always set the bar high for dancing, singing and visuals, they don't follow kpop standards, they are WAYY above them. And that's why SM has some of the best vocalists and the best dancers too (literally NCT, SHINee have no bad dancer. NCT has about 4 main dancers and like 10 members or more that qualify for lead position).
Late as hell but MAJOR props to TAEMIN’s bd’s. Move is a devil to learn and they killed it and obviously TAEMIN. Also floor work is equally as difficult 😐 props to NCT too.
THE Lee Taemin actually said in a show: "Everyone thought it's easy (hip sway in Move) but you actually need a lot of control".
MOVE was made for Taemin and only for him, no one can go as hard ad perfect as him
Andrea Chintemi the choreographer
Until you see nct dream's park jisung-
Except for Koharu Sugawara
@@rafsanachowdhury8641 tbh Jisung is really good but not enough
@@shineetaemint6548 totally agree
Shinee were the one started dance practice. Hats off to one of the legends of Kpop
Yep SHINee helped pave the way
I didn't know... thanks for the info
@@stannctorbeasquare2809 paving the way conversation is whole another thing...
@@feshendrodengo4928 they did help to pave the way for dancing in kpop tho! nothing wrong with it
@@stannctorbeasquare2809 lmao don't say "pave the way", someone will get triggered
Even NCT members in 7th sense told somewhere that the count was hard to master
me: *cant dance*
this video: *”this dance is hard”*
me: *”all dances are hard!!”*
True
butterjiny preach
i feel that
The only dances I can do in the slightest are the chorus’ to Ooh Ahh (Twice) and As If It’s Your Last (BLACKPINK)
Okay, it’s cool that the creator of this video can dance but for people that suck at dancing.
Well... every single dance seems hard to us.
Just for a few exceptions to be honest. :)
When I typed a few, I am serious. XD
I swear the only people that can't appreciate NCT choreos are people that watched the dance only once. The more you watch it, the better it gets because you start to realize all the details that you wouldn't have noticed if you only watched it once. Also their choreos are pretty unique in my opnion so they might look weird at first watch but the more you watch it, the more addicted to it you will get I swear!!! (Also other idols dancing to NCT or cover dancers dancing to NCT really doesn't do justice, they never ever look even close to looking as good as NCT dancing to the songs)
also! just wanna add that a lot of their choreos may seem not too hard at first, but is mostly very ‘awkward’ to pull off & look cool in which is another reason why it’s so gooooood
@@mct8643 I totally agree like they look extremely cool dancing but if u were to think about a specific move or try to do it yourself it looks incredibly awkward
Nct 127 Cherry Bomb chorero was insane like in the best way honestly when I saw Loona cover it I was a bit shocked cause they’re literally one of the only groups to come close to matching the energy of Nct
@@Sunfl0w3r23-j5c I actually think that Loona gave it their own energy instead of trying to copy NCT's and failing at it (because no one can do it like them) I think they gave it a nice girl crush, powerful women vibes instead of just trying to be like NCT if that makes sense and I love that! There's clearly a reason why Loona is known for their performance because they are amazing at it. I don't know if I will ever end up stanning Loona since I already have a hard time keeping up with all the groups I stan already, but since So What era, I have been keeping my eye on them and casual stan them and I definitely enjoy their talent and energy. Their cover is the only NCT cover that I actually enjoy watching
@@targetbleach8689 yes I totally agree with you honestly I’m not a big fan of Loona music like it’s just not my thing but performance wise they’re amazing
"ya'll ain't ready for this"
Ateez: aGGreSsiVe mARchIng
i-
I was like "not ready for what?" And then that part came and I was like "nope you're right I wasn't ready"
But All jokes aside I love how in-sync their steps are when the march, I might just have to start stanning
Just went back and watched it again. It's been a week. I'm still chuckling
Thank you so much for including ATEEZ! I feel like their choreography is often overlooked, and BBT always gives them difficult and unique performances
Finally someone talking about the precious talented boys.
I knew that ateez will be here, they are insane performers
@@atinybruh facts
"Just look at the fear in these Produce X 101 trainees"
I- oh my god- these babies-
Kat le kit kat I miss them ahh))”;
A lot of choreography from SHINee is extremely difficult, thanks to Rino Nakasone. However, SHINee members digested the steps very well and made them like real arts.
Yes someone that acknowledges my woman Rino 👌
It’s because all SHINee members are very good dancers! :)