Falcons' moves with Michael Penix Jr., Kirk Cousins don't 'sync up' | Dan Patrick Show | NBC Sports
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- Dan Patrick & Co. explain why Michael Penix Jr. to Atlanta is another confusing chapter in the Falcons' recent quarterback decisions with Kirk Cousins and Desmond Ridder. Plus, they discuss other notable first-round QB selections, including Bo Nix to the Broncos. #NBCSports #NFLDraft #DanPatrick
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Falcons' moves with Michael Penix Jr., Kirk Cousins don't 'sync up' | Dan Patrick Show | NBC Sports
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It's obvious that they lied to Kirk to get him to sign with the Falcons. Kirk is probably regretting leaving the Vikings now.
The Viking got rid of him, he didn’t leave them 😊
Why they were going to pay him...
Not true because kirk agent stated last night after the pick that thr falcons told him they were gonna add another QB either this year or next they just didn't think I would be the first round of this draft
Minnesota sports radio is laughing their azzes off today. Kirk's selfishness in MN rubbed a lot of people wrong
nope he's fine 100M guaranteed at his age
In the first place, Atlanta shouldn't have given Kirk Cousins the rich contract. He is injured, and Minnesota was moving off him. I think the GM's brain is upside down.
Isn't the NFL looking into how Atlanta got Cousins? Aren't there rumors of tampering?
Literally had a chance to get Lamar a year earlier and said no so I’m glad they overpaid Kirk all that money only for his confidence to be crushed before OTAs even start
@@dacramac3487 That's what's being said. Either way, the Falcons are the dog chasing their own tail.
People who think Arthur Blank didn’t sign off on this are crazy. I actually think it was mainly his idea but that’s my personal opinion
Exactly. I think I was the driving force behind being so aggressive at the qb position.
@@William_Stephens @8Casimir Right? This isn't hard, they are setup for both now and the future. They can get out of Kirk's deal after year 2 easily with only 25M in dead money which is less than the Vikings are on the hook for this year w/ Kirk. Most important position in sports they're setup for both now and the future.
Did you see the draft room and the way Terry was trying to explain himself after the pick? He was blindsided
Blank forced the cousins signing. The hc wanted his guy. That's how this happened.
His idea? Did ppl not see his reaction to the pick?
I like that nobody knew that Atlanta was planning to do this! That means that they didn't show their hand to allow the Raiders to move up! Good move!
No, it just means nobody thought they were this dumb and there was only 1 or 2 real picks to make.
I like Penix a lot…One of my favorite QB’s in this draft. I thought Atlanta should have taken Odunze to give Cousins another great weapon. At least they got their future QB locked up. Maybe he’ll be in sooner than we all think.
Yeah I thought Penix was going to be a Raider and I was a bit excited to watch him play there
@@showdown7512 Yea…Penix would have been great add for the Raiders. Bowers is awesome…Will be interesting to see how QB situation unfolds in Vegas.
Great pick Atlanta.
First round pic Micheal Penix Jr needs to be on the grass when the season starts
Is it legal in Atlanta?
Atlanta was working with Packers blueprint, and still got it wrong.
Rodgers had played 16 years for the Packers before Love was drafted. Kirk hasn't even played for the Falcons yet. Strange draft pick right after they got Kirk.
The time to do that would have been when M@ was here but it would have been Fields and he is trash. But that doesn't make this the right pick.
Heard that four years ago and now it's love is the best thing since sliced bread
@Paula-mv8im yeah kirk clear has 16 more years left 😂
There is no QB with the talent of Penix coming out next year. Over the next 3 years, ATL isn’t guaranteed to get a pick this high. If Penix shows progress in the preseason game, this pick turns into a great pick.
It’s Auther Blanks money he can do whatever he wants with it!
There was no draft pick that could have helped the Falcons compete for a SB this year period. So why not draft your QB of the future now especially since you most likely won't be drafting this high again anytime soon.
There were lots of players that could help them win the super bowl.
You don’t think odunze or bowers makes that maybe the best offense in the nfl?
Kirk is finally feeling how the fan base of every team he has played QB for feels after they realize that Kirk is their starting quarterback!!!!
People are dim. 😆 Kirk cousins is 36 coming off a ruptured Achilles, been in since 2012, with ONE playoff win. He could pull a Aaron Rodgers and be gone again, Falcons did the smart thing nobody feel bad for a mediocre qb in Kirk who got overpaid anyway.
They just paid that dude 100 million to be the leader of their franchise...he is mediocre? If that was true, then things are way worse in Atlanta than anyone realised. Bad organisations will always show you who they are.
@powerboon2k Yeah I give you that, we overpaid, I said that already....🙄 It's all worth it if you get your qb of the future.
First mistake was overpaying, We don't make a second mistake by passing on the future just cause we overpaid. 😆
No way Arthur Blank didn't know beforehand
What did Owner Arthur Blank expect when He has Black GM and Black Head Coach of His Football Team. The only piece missing was the Black QB.
@@PHN-2024
Real big brained theory there
@@lordrayden3045 Don’t You Mean “Real Big Balls” Theory?
@@PHN-2024
No, not at all
Kirk has 2 years to win a chip, win or let your agent find u a trade, simple rise up
No trade clause in Cousins contract he always gets that…
@@iamwhoiam7482well then the falcons will just cut him after two years. The contract has no dead money after the 2nd year so essentially it’s a 2 year contract for 90 million fully guaranteed
Kirk was pissed is how he reacted…..they 💩on him!
Or more politely: gave Kirk the brown helmet. 😬 Not good for morale - at all levels.
No more Tuesdays off for kirk.
It's not about the pick it's about what the pick represents XD
Keep in mind there was no other team that would have signed Cousin a contract of that magnitude. Actually, he didn't give a discount to Falcon Organization on that 100 mill guaranteed. Give any qb out there that guarantee they would care less who they bring in behind them. Just do your job you're hired to do.
It’s obvious Dan Patrick has never been CEO of an organization. Saying they never gave Rodgers a receiver? What a joke. Driver, Nelson, Jones, Jennings, Adams, Finley, Watson, Doubs,, Cobb, just to name a few…
😭 Donald driver? Are you 92? How many of them were top picks, how many pro bowls did any of those guys get playing w anybody not named Rodgers???
I like the draft pick, honesty. People treating these qb's like divas. Iron sharpens iron
I don’t know how much Fontano listens to Ryan Pace, but Pace was doing this kind of thing all the time when he was the GM in Chicago. Crazy thing was the meatball media in Chicago thought Pace was a genius.
They do sync up just fine. After two years the Falcons can let 38 year old Kirk walk and save 80M. If he's an MVP caliber QB taking them deep in the playoffs they can keep him at a bargain rate for two more years. Either way Penix Jr will be primed to take over in 2 years unless Kirk is playing unbelievably great the best football of his career. That would be a good problem to have. Most important position in sports and they are setup for both now and the future.
There’s no way of knowing unless ATL tanks this year that they will get a pick this high in the next 2 years. They would have been left with nothing. Great pick, Penix gets to learn the offense on a rookie salary, they can use the next 2 years drafts to put the weapons around him.
The Jordan Love comparison is hard because it's a 24th overall pick, not an 8th overall pick.
Doesn't matter, if he turns out to be great then no one will have a problem with this.
@@Hotobu I completely agree
@@Hotobu No one has a problem with the pick in itself. It's the fact that they spent $100 million on a QB a month ago. It makes zero logic and business sense.
I mean it kinda syncs up if you think about it . Realistically its a 2 year deal on kirk and unless people forgot kirk coming off a injury so he could legit fall off and you dont have a QB in the building. Also next year is kinda a weak QB draft and if the coach hits they might not get a top 3 pick especially in that weak division they in . So either penix sits for 2 years or kirk falls off and penix balls you have a QB either way and didn't leverage the franchise to get him
so then you are paying $50m/yr for 2 yrs for a guy you JUST got 6 weeks ago...and then went out and used your 8 overall for the same position?? we shall see how it plays out
Once the Falcons start practicing, they will realize that pennix is the better quarterback and start him...... Atlanta will have a better chance to win with penix He is clutch in the big moments.
It's not that they didnt help Aaron Rogers...its that they didnt help the Packers as a whole for a few seasons with that pick.
It's because Ryan Pace is with the Falcons org now. Nuff said. Signed, a Bears fan
Everyone keeps comparing this to Green Bay. It is not the same. They Aaron with Favre at 27 and Love at 26. This was the 8th pick in a loaded draft. Totally different if Penix was taken at 27.
As a Bears fan I love the pick.
If Atlanta didnt take him, their rival the Saints would have
They're not that dumb. That's why they let Terry come to Atlanta in the first place. He's still working for them
GM talking about "if he has to sit 4 or 5 years..." SERIOUSLY?!?!?! Dude is like 25, you think he will be happy waiting until he is 30 to finally play?
Idiotic.
Kirk’s deal is only technically 4 years. The big money is in the first 2.
How high…well I once clean paper plates in the sink
Dan has changed my opinion on this
It's just the 1st round. The scouts job is to find talent that fit the coach's philosophy in all rounds of the draft. An organization should not be forcing a pick that is a position need. Draft value and sure up your guy if he is your guy. Defensive talent was not that great in the 1st round people.
I think we know the reason for this particular selection. And it has nothing to do with football decisions..
Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love. All great quarterbacks that were allowed to sit for a bit before getting thrown into the fire. Maybe more teams should try it this way instead of taking their high pick and starting them right away.
So in a best case senerio Cousins plays lights out and they get a high trade value for him in a year or two?
Jordon Love was young .....Jr is 24. Add 3 years that puts him at 27/28 , drafting a young kid is one thing,,,, giving 90 mil and 16 mil to 2qbs on your roster is insane .
I’ve never heard a guy who just made $100 million dollars complain so much
This has Ryan Pace written all over it.
Who? You mean Orlando Leaf?
Start explaining yourself? Kirk cousins has won 1 playoff game and is off an injury. We are moving off of him in a year.
Well. Thats a pretty simple explanation!
Also when are you picking 8 again? You were trash to get to pick 8. You have a good coach now. Qbs are taken earlier and more often now. Its the most important position! Take one when you can!
Maybe the Falcons know how they will be disciplined for tampering in future drafts 🤷🏻♀️
When you hear takes like this, it only makes you think that the falcons made the right move. If you feel confident about a QB you pull the trigger for the future. Penix wasn't making it past 13 at latest
Anyone who thinks this was a good pick is delusional and I'm not a Falcons fan.
"It's a business."
Yes, the Packers sacrificed one pick that could have been an offensive player for Rodgers. But looking at their record with 2nd and later round receivers, they are doing something right there. And now, instead of having to worry about the QB position, it looks like they might have another ten years of high quality play. Ask the Bears fans if they would sacrifice three picks for 30+ years of steady quarterback play. Or the post Brady Patriots. Or the Falcons for the past few years after Matt Ryan left. The draft is for team building now and in the future. You have to use picks for both. The Falcons decided to do that with this pick. Let's wait and see what else they do before we say they blew everything.
The Falcons owner panicked and overpaid for a veteran QB that the head coach didn't want.
I never understood Aaron Rodgers always complaining the team didn't draft young WR. He hates young WR. His last year with the Packers, he can't get in sync with some pretty good young WR.
If Blank had hired Bill B this would not have happened.
Cuz Bill was known as good drafter 😂
Blank wanted Bill. Terry wanted Raheem.
@@ThePlanet428 Tom Brady? Gronk? Edelman? Look at players that were drafted by Patriots ever since he was the coach. A lot of them won titles.
@@AkonFenty1992 😂 he wasn't GM and making all the decisions then. He didn't personally draft and make final decision on all those. It was other people who wanted and pushed for Brady. His record with total control isn't that good.
I think this is a good move however Cousins most likely will get injured long before his three years are up....and Cousins, even at his peak(?), is a poor man's Matt Ryan...
We helped Rodgers out enough. He had some stacked teams & blew it in the playoffs
I still can't believe Atlantis did that, at the very least they could've traded back and gotten another pick if they were that dead set on taking Pennix with their first pick.
Kirk Cousins Has to realize that the City of Atlanta wants a Black QB and Penix Jr. is "Michael Vick II" and the Falcons' unproven Black Head Coach Raheem Morris also makes the NFL Happy.
That's a very racist thing to say, which has no validation !! For years teams passed on drafting a black QB because they believe they were not smart enough
This isn't racist, he is suggesting that a black QB is superior to a White QB, he also doesn't speak for the entire city but in his opinion Penix Jr is culturally best for the city that is predominantly filled with people similar to Penix Jr, don't confuse racism with culture or colorism. His comments reflect more on the side of that, but nothing racist, maybe look up the term so you know how to use it in the future.
@PHN-2024
I'd hate to think that you are onto something, but Falcons' president Rich McKay is VERY, VERY woke. So that might be it.
In what universe is Raheem Morris "unproven"? He has been a top DC for two decades now and has previous head coaching experience. I call BS on any suggestion that Morris isn't fit for the job.
@@adrianengram3078 How Smart was it for Falcons’ former QB Michael Vick to Fight and Kill Dogs?
Thank you Atlanta, Rome will look great in a Bears uniform
I’m glad we did this. Go falcons. Kirk is regular and penix can be great 0:22
Kirk has made a bazillion dollars playing starting quarterback for teams he was never going to win the superbowl with his entire career not excluding his limited, while solid, set of talents and big game abilities. For what he has, and who he has played for, he won big time? 🤔
Cousins also has a NO TRADE clause. lol
Look at the QB's n college now that will be coming out in the next couple of years and you tell me who will be better than Penix
Tell me you knew who Penix was before half way through the last college football season. 😉
"Reactions are pretty private.". Who talks like that? Oh yeah, guys caught trying to cover their asses
These talking heads still don’t get it. Take a receiver over Love. They said the same thing when they took Rodgers.
Arthur Blank was pissed haha
there's no way he didn't sign off on it
There’s no way he didn’t know about that pick
Agreed, Terry was trying to justify his stupidity after the pick. The body language didn't lie.
@@matthewdunn3580 How? He did not react too good.
@@DrGanja99 His reaction said otherwise.
Can’t use a pick that high for a guy just to sit and not play in the nfl where it’s win now mentality
Maybe they add a package for Penix; dual QB's.
Don't give them any ideas
Dan is off on the packers. Rodgers had 1 season left and was inevitably going to end up like farve. They've set themselvess up well for the future and have 4 good young recievers that they didn't need to draft in the first round.
I really thought you guys had it figured out what the Falcons plan is. If anyone thinks Penix is going to sit behind Cousin for two to three years, you're in a bubble, Cousin is not the future of the falcons Penix is. Cousin will be traded before then. People are saying the falcons did Cousin wrong by notifying him at a moment notice they were drafting Penix. If i could get a $100,000,000 guaranteed signing, I could care less who they bring in. Let me get that bag.
If they wanted to pick a QB for the future that won’t start for at least 2 years, how about pick 21 year old JJ McCarthy rather than 24 year old Michael Penix…?
Because Penix is better.
🖋️ x may not start until he's 28... Also, he's a backup for his rookie contract. Kirk not happy. The cousins curse.
The Falcons expect Cousins to train his replacement.
Arthur (Scooby Doo Villain) Blank knows now that they will be hit with tampering penalties because calculated Kirk blurted out what happened, and they now they wont have some picks the next year or two.
A Blanc , would Bill B have done that ? Those that advised you to avoid Coach B , did that , ask yourself this ?
LISTEN TO THE MUSIC
Penix will be starting by mid-season
somewhere bill is laughing..lol
Y'all don't get it ... thought you were pros
Wouldn't it be funny if the Falcons trade Penix Jr to the Raiders today for a large package of picks!!
IF KIRK COUSINS WAS SO ADAMANT ON GETTING OTHER WEAPONS MAYBE DONT SIGN FOR SO MUCH MONEY BUT YOU DONT GET TO FEEL A WAY BECAUSE IM DRAFTING FOR TH FUTURE OF THIS TEAM!
Six more rounds Dano……
If you want a bright future you need to sacrifice a little in the present. It's a life lesson.
3 years in a row of 7-10. They have nothing to sacrifice.
HUBIE HALLOWEEN
Did the chiefs help Alex Smith by moving up to eleventh to draft Mahomes?
No, but the Chiefs already had a Super Bowl level roster. It's safe to say the Falcons do not.
@@grahamman80 You can't say that when the season hasn't even started yet. Bijan, London, Moore, Mooney, and Pitts are legit weapons. Any good QB could succeed with those weapons. What we don't know is if this new coaching staff is going to be able to maximize this talent.
@@gregorycampbell9386 I can say that. You don't pick in the top 10 four straight years if you have a SB roster. And what about that defense? Atlanta hasn't had a 10+ sack guy since Vic Beasley. Outside of Terrell and Bates III they don't have anyone of note. Not a SB roster.
@grahamman80 Defense is definitely a liability for sure. Hopefully with Raheem being a defensive coach he can scheme up creative ways to cover up any lack of talent. Also they have the rest of the draft and off-season to improve the defense as well so its by no means set at this point.
@@grahamman80this. They don't even have a division winning roster without Cousins.
Kirk has to be second-guessing leaving KOC, JJ, TJ, and JA in Minnesota. Maybe he couldn’t take the mosquitos anymore. Either that, or he chased the bag again. Money isn’t everything, Kirko. If it is, then be happy with Penix-Mightier and your $100 million guaranteed. I know this: I don’t feel sorry for him, and I’m happy with JJ to JJ.
“A Blank expression on his face”…blaaahahahahaha 😂
Some teams get it….some don’t. At lease with the Dallas Cowboys we all KNOW who made the pick. Author Blank should BE IN CHARGE or get out of the war room.
Who cares about the fans reaction. 99% of them don’t watch Washington football.
Doesn’t seem, they did Penix or Cousins any favors. Just awkward.
How is it awkward? There is a starter and a young talented rookie draft pick. Cousins is 36 yo with no significant win of any sort. What’s the problem?
Mad wasted resources, Love and Rodgers were not top ten picks either.
Rodgers didn’t help himself
Packers did the right thing. Always Get the QB that you like!
Come on DP who cares
I understand why i don't listen to dan Patrick now. This was dumb
This is a clowns move the falcons sigh kirk cousins and pay 185 millions and not adding to a team with something that will help the team now was stupid I think have a real shot to win the south but these joker running the team need help and show how much faith then have in cousin crazy Michael Penix Jr is going be like 28 29 when he gets to play lol
Worst franchise in the NFL
That would be Carolina! The owner doesn't have a clue!
AMERICA
The Falcons are going to have a new HC and GM going into the 2025 draft, so it doesn't really matter too much. You can't screw up THIS bad. Either the draft pick was a mistake or the 180 million contract was a mistake. Or both. Any of those is enough to can the GM. When Morris fails as a head coach, AGAIN, he and the GM will be shown the door. And the new regime will almost certainly prefer the stable vet, Cousins, over the old oft-injured and unproven Penix.
When did Steve Martin become a sports commentator?
Broncos GM George Paton brought in a head coach who didn't want the quarterback who they had just signed to an extension..... Any criticism of Terry Fontetnot needs to stop
Isnt it 36% of qbs make it and the rest don’t in the 1st round? Who says they couldn’t have drafted someone better in a latter round etc.
When a black GM is involved this is always on the table
Tis is awesosme. Atlanta has had only one Hall of Fame quarterback in 60 years. Now they have two potential HOF QBs.
Kirk Cousins is NOT going to the Hall of Fame
Why do you think Penix is a potential HOF Qb? He hasn't played a down in the NFL? Also Kirk ain't HOF either. Huh?
They screwed the Vikings so I love this pick.
Screwed us how lmao? We were going for Drake or J.J... And we didn't lose both our first rounders.
@@cry-ptoltd6832 For real. People twisting themselves into pretzels trying to defend this lunacy. The copium is real. Vikings killed it this draft so far. Atlanta are the ones that let Dallas Turner drop to 17...
Kirk D Cousins is a $25,000,000 cap hit this coming season ( that is nothing) . If they want to keep him around he would have earned it ,so he is a $40,000,000 cap hit the next season. There is a $10,000,000 roster bonus for the final two years of the deal. The Falcons will not pay that because Kirk D Cousins will be gone. The contract is essentially a one year prove it deal
Not accurate at all.
Wtf kind of jibberish is this?
Penix is best QB in draft and Kirk is better scam artist than Dak