Falcons current QB situation is 'truly unprecedented' - Rich Eisen | Dan Patrick Show | NBC Sports
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
- Rich Eisen joins Dan Patrick to discuss the "wild scenario" in Atlanta after the Falcons drafted QB Michael Penix Jr., how the Buffalo Bills may approach their draft, the "awesome" atmosphere in Detroit, and more. #NBCSports #NFLDraft #DanPatrick
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Falcons current QB situation is 'truly unprecedented' - Rich Eisen | Dan Patrick Show | NBC Sports
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Eisen & Patrick is pure gold🙌🏽💯😁
Sigh.... I miss 1990s SportsCenter
If imy Penix I'm not happy. Kirk probably isn't either
and the team can't be happy. You could have drafted a quality piece to the puzzle and instead you drafted insurance. One thing to do that with a later pick, but crazy to do it with a top 10 pick.
Probably 2 years at most and they move on. This isn't any different than Smith Mahomes. Cousins isn't a Franchise QB.
@@vinyllpreviews9462 I think you are right at most
@@vinyllpreviews9462 Yep, Washington realized that 7 years ago when they let him walk in free agency. The Vikings realized it two years ago after the playoff loss to the Giants, and refused to give Cousins another extension and also let him walk. Atlanta is doing the right thing by drafting Penix.
@@vinyllpreviews9462 - Then why sign Cousins to all that money instead of someone like Darnold? Smith was different because he was already under contract for the Chiefs, and he understood the situation and accepted that he was going to be moving on again. Chiefs got Fuller that helped then beat the 49ers.
Well after seeing who the Falcons GM is, as Fred Sanford use to say "you big dummy".
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I’ve been watching podcasts and reading articles of some people that like this move?
Me, frankly I thought it was absolutely mind-boggling and ridiculous?
The good news for Atlanta is they’ll be drafting in the top 10 again next season, they’ll be able to draft their third string QB with maybe the ninth pick overall? 😂
They will win the division, so they won't pick that low. and I'm a Saints fan. I am annoyed Penix went to a team I can't stand
@@SenorJuan2023They won't. They don't have a defense.
They will lose a pic due to tampering
@@lafan4801 So?
@@distortedsoul27 Super easy schedule, easy division
Everybody hating thats how i know we made the right decision picking him at quarterback 😂😂😂
They are going to have a lot of players to pay at the end of cousins. Now they can and have the next qb
So thats how the atl gm & coach will only be ther for a couple of years
Yep, even if Pennix turns out to be great they likely won't get the benefit of seeing it. You can't use a top 10 pick on a guy who won't play for several years.
The way Arthur Blank was looking at his GM on draft night I suspect Arthur Blank was not so enamored by them drafting a QB at 8 after having him escrow 100 million to sign Cousins I suspect Fontenot will not be there to see this one thru and just hope the HC can survive it.
A couple reasons why drafted Penix. The Falcons are probably anticipating that they're going to lose their 1st round pick in next years draft due to the tampering allegations with Cousins, and decided to take a quarterback now. And also Cousins medical status on his achilles may not have been as rosy as the Falcons were led to believe. The drama meter in Atlanta just went into the red.
I definitely think your onto something with this
Then why bother paying Cousins a premium in if you think he only has two years left in his career? If your theory is what Atlanta management was thinking, wouldn’t this be the year to make your Super Bowl run? Shouldn’t you grab someone that would make an immediate impact?
@@iap6647 Atlanta paid the going rate for a multiple time Pro Bowl quarterback. Also, the quarterback is 36 years old; history tells you the odds of s 38-year-old quarterback being good are low.
Additionally, Atlanta doesn’t expect to be picking in the top 10 of drafts in future years. And the 2025 draft doesn't expect to have as deep of a quarterback pool as this year.
@@michaeljohnson7945 I respectfully disagree. I think Atlanta overpaid for cousins (and Darnell Mooney for that matter). He getting paid the same amount as Patrick Mahomes. Can you really compare the two? I bet you last year Atlanta didn’t expect to be picking in the top ten, or the year before that , or the year before that, etc…. Essentially throwing cap money in the toilet along with making zero impact with your 1st round pick of 2024. Horrible management strategy.
Penix needs to have the best result now
Didn’t the Redskins draft RG3 and Cousins in the same draft? Unprecedented is not the appropriate word
Yep. There's nothing unprecedented about this. It'll take 3 years to know if it's a good move (and I suspect it won't be), but taking a young talent when you have a veteran is as old as sports.
ya but the difference is RG3 was on a rookie contract and didn't just sign a 180 million $ contract
Apples and oranges there man
@davidvera7305 they doing the packers plan. It may screw kirk cousins but they're OK with that
Cousins and Penix were taken in the same draft?
Kirt Did Not Like That
He gets paid big money either way. He will manage.
@@SenorJuan2023 Kirt is the luckiest average footballer.
I don’t get all the news about the Penix pick. Kurt Cousins hurt his Achilles, what happens if it really doesn’t heal correctly or he has another one. Penix is there to pick up the pieces.
If they didn’t confirm Cousins is on track physically then it is nuts they guaranteed him $100 million.
And if Kirk Cousins is just fine then what?
Not unprecedented. Owner wanted cousins. Gm and coach didn't. They overpaid for an injured vet. The gm wants a future and was at 8. When you have a chance to get a top qb, you do it. It really is that simple.
You don’t seem to know what unprecedented means lol
With all the good QB's in this year's draft, they shouldn't have signed Cousins in the first place.
Kurt Cousins is a known commodity in the NFL. None of these rookie quarterbacks are known yet. We see “good” quarterbacks in college completely bust out in the NFL.
@@stevencramsie9172 KIrk is super expensive, old, and coming off an injury. Better to draft a QB on a rookie contract and fill out the rest of the roster. SMH
Matt Ryan is literally the only QB the Falcons have ever developed. And still only won 4 playoff games in 15 NFL years.
Bartkowski
If I run 40 yr dash.. will collapse I think haha
A 35 year old QB coming off an achiles tear with a highly valued 1st round pick as the long term QB/backup, compared to a 40 year old QB coming off an achiles tear with a no name 5th rounder as the long term QB/ back-up.
So Danny Boy, which team is in better shape, Atlanta or The Jets?
Still the Jets. You don’t understand the salary cap
The Jints get badmouthed for a weak qb room, the Falcons are accused of being a bit heavy there. I'd rather be the Falcons.
Falcons picked Penix so others teams couldnt.. It's simple, they are playing 4d chess
When the players and the fans see Penix in preseason flinging that ball, the 💩 is going to hit fan.
What if Cousins isn’t recovered by week 1 of the season?
If there was any chance of that then you don't pay him that contract
@southernpreparedness1691 actually he was projected to he ready after week 3-5 as a vike so there's a high chance he isn't ready week 1. Even if he is, is he the same player?
"Clearly" going to be a starting QB? History says only 22% of 1st round QB's are with the same team 4 years later. There is no "clearly" about 1st round QB's Rich.
I think this confirms what I’ve been saying ever since I saw Quarterback on Netflix. Kirk Cousins is under appreciated for his level of play on the field. Off the field, he gives off the facade of being a golly shucks God fearing man. Reality is he’s a smug, self centered ****head. He must have really gone out of his way to be a jerk to Falcons after they’ve signed him. You don’t become a GM in NFL if you’re completely oblivious to what picking a QB with seventh pick means
So the professional sports franchise made a senseless move because the “smug” QB was mean to them? Bless your heart
Everyone in the entire country who follows football wonders what they're smoking in the front office at Falcons headquarters.
Sure, most teams are Dumb about who they have at backup. Meaning they can't play QB but they are real good at anything else.
Both the Cousins deal and Penix pick cannot be added value...but both could be epic fails. This is why the Falcons as an organization are hopeless.
every move could fail. Your logic is trash
At the very least, it's insurance. I would say, motivation for both players. Most importantly, options when Kirk does Kirk things...
@@w00deey12your logic is also trash because some picks or moves are significantly more risky than other.
Like signing an older guy coming off a rupture Achilles vs. signing a young guy in his prime.
Duh…
@@TempeSoldier123 wasn't talking to you....
@@w00deey12 I’m talking to you tho. If you wanna DO something about it, you better be ready to take it as far as I will.
It's not that unprecedented. How does nobody remember 2-time pro bowler Alex Smith in Kansas City?
End of his contract and only being paid 20 mil and saved money
Mahomes sat one year? Maybe less? Penix will sit 2-3 years for contract reasons
Alex Smith had 1 year left on his contract.
Sure guys were a little upset about it in the locker room but the Chiefs didn’t simultaneously create locker room issues and financial issues
They plan to sit Penix 4-5 years
Lol. Yep, when he is 30 he will finally be ready!
Which completely wastes his rookie contract.
never seen so much outrage and confusion about a team looking to the future when their current starter is a 36 year old coming off achillies surgery whose never won a big game in his career
it's more wild to pay that guy a 4 year deal in free agency than it is to draft a QB who arguably throws the best ball in his class.... Kirk could barely move when he had 2 good achillies, can't imagine how statuesque he'll be now
Black GMs are not allowed to do things to keep their job.
How would you feel if you were starting a new job and your replacement is hired and starts the same day too? They totally screwed over Kirk here, they signed him and never let him take a single down before doing this.
The idea behind signing a veteran quarterback (and overpaying, because being the Falcons you have to pay an idiot tax) is that you think you can win RIGHT NOW and you can use the draft to fill needed holes in your roster and do it on the cheap w/ entry level contracts.
Drafting an injury-prone fifth (sixth?) year senior for a position the free agent signing was supposed to fill doesn’t help the team win RIGHT NOW, and the only way Penix plays in the next four years is if Cousins either sucks or gets hurt again. So the Falcons either hope that the veteran they paid a lot of money for gives them their money’s worth and keeps their first round pick on the bench during most of his rookie contract (effectively wasting that pick), or they for some reason hope that their first rounder outplays their free agent signing SO BADLY that they have no choice but to start the kid, bench the veteran, and effectively waste eight figures of Arthur Blank’s money.
They’re trying to have it both ways, but they can’t, because only one guy can throw the football for you; Fontenot last night was drafting like a baseball GM trying to build a pitching rotation.
I’ve heard Cowherd try to “go against the grain” and be different by saying he likes the Penix pick because it’s “insurance” at QB but it really makes no sense for the reasons you just laid out. A QB who has never played in the NFL is not really insurance, and even if he was, the Falcons aren’t good enough to be using top 10 picks on insurance. They need defensive playmakers, and they had their choice of all of them at No. 8. Maybe Penix turns out to be great, but it still doesn’t make this combination of moves add up (paying Kirk a fortune and then drafting for the future and not for now).
You’re missing the point. the point is they did both.
Rich I love you, but you’re the only one who thought my giants would/should take JJ
Kiper and all types of people were talking about Mccarthy to the giants.
But you like Daniel Jones or that Italian kid apparently. Good luck with that.
BILL B was done wrong by the Atlanta falcons owner ship and management. The owner should fire all his people
This is why the falcons will always be garbage 🗑
Did no one learn anything watching what happened to the Jets last year? This is inspired. Great move Falcons! FYI..not a Falcons fan...this move was a good one.
L take there buddy
@@arox4133 and I guess you would know all about L
Yes! if they had the 5th best rookie QB they would’ve been playing in February!
DEI GM 😂😂😂
Only time will tell but this reminds me of a typical business model study where the company has resently spent a significant amount on a machine and shortly is faced with the realization that a newer machine that just came out that is significanly more productive and can increase their profits by a significan amount but the recently acquired machine works perfectly well - what do you do? You look at the bottom line and if all the facts are correct, you replace the machine with the newer inovation and sell this less effecient machine to the highest bidder, even at a loss if this doesn't negatively affect the bottom line analysis. In Atlanta's eyes, Penix represents the more productive machine. This effectively makes Cousin a bridge QB, not what he was banking on.
a person is not a machine. not even on the books is a person anything like a machine. They are both employees
Draft position and Penix were known when Cousins was signed. It more smacks of a company not doing its homework. The mistake is obviously signing Cousins to a $100M guaranteed. He is now the most expensive bridge QB in history.
@@exhaustguy the Broncos are paying Russ $85,000,000 to play for the Steelers. Shut up
Last comment: can there be a disclaimer on screen here for these ‘analysts’ that says : ‘He is not an NFL Coach or GM. Absolutely no idea what he’s talking about. Rich is incredibly stupid’.
Unprecedented? Isn’t this the thing the Packers are so good at? Continuous decades with franchise QBs?
We don’t know that anybody in the quarterback room for the Falcons in 2024 is a “franchise quarterback“ yet. Cousins certainly isn’t
The differences being where the Packers picked them, the ages they were when they were picked(Rodgers was 21-22 and Love was 20), and the contracts of the QB's they were there to replace.
When did they draft a QB with a top 10 pick the same year they gave a veteran a huge contract? This isn’t hard
It isn’t unprecedented.
What it shows is that media talking heads don't what they are talking about and not worth listening to their chatter!
Exactly! if you can’t predict things at a 100% rate you are absolutely worthless!
"Unpredecented." You mean like the Packers drafting Aaron Rodgers with Brett Favre already in the fold, then selecting Love to succeed Rodgers?
Good on the Falcons. Draft a QB when you don't need one.
Rich Eisen has been steadily losing credibility with me every year.
Good point. And Rich not as sharp as he once was, if he ever was. Nice fella though.
They didn’t have Cousins “in the fold”. They had just signed him to a huge contract.
Favre and Rodgers had already been on the Packers for years. If you don’t believe me look it up.
Now the pundits praise the guys who were surprisingly drafted high. If they were not expected to be drafted high two days ago, you don't get to say he deserves it now.
All that matters is they got the best thrower in the draft
“best THROWER”
oh look, another non quantafiable accolade for Penix next to,
best passer
most NFL ready
Falcons screwed Penix over royally.
Oh, fer Chrissakes, I feel SOOOO sorry for what a guy that just earned $100M GUARANTEED thinks about the Falcons screwing him. Geez.
Something about guaranteed $100M and being screwed doesn't quite resonate. I guess when living in the real world, these kind of dynamics don't exist for us po people. 😞
How about penix? He won’t play for two years and he’s going to an uncomfortable situation with the falcons as a team that wanted someone who would make the team better. I feel bad for Michael penix
Very smart/prudent move! Not only are they not tying the future of the franchise solely to Kirk (for 4/yrs). Who's a tier C quarterback at best. But, they're also allowing another QB, to learn and mature regardless of how good he plays... Hedging the chances of getting good/great QB, play over the next 2 to 4yrs. What they paid Kirk, is the market rate. Can't be helped...
Very smart? You paid Kirk to win now. Yet, you draft to win later? Explain this logic please.
KIRK D COUSINS HAS NEVER WON A BIG GAME IN THE NFL EVER... WHY IS HIS JOB GUARANTEED?
That’s a good question for the team that just guaranteed him $100 million. If you guarantee a guy $100 million it’s safe to say you should be expecting him to play.
@@mikewilliams4443 like Russ in Denver?
GM of the Falcons drafting Penix makes me think it was a racial statement he was making more than a wise pick. Makes no sense to pay someone $50 mil the same year you draft a QB at 8. I have feeling this was a social justice pick.
No doubt!!
Love Rich but he is wrong on this... When a white GM does this, its a great move.
His Jets drafted Zach Wilson and traded him for a box of peanuts after they signed a 40 year old that talks retirement every offseason.
What?
I accept that what the Jets did was worse by also giving up draft capital, but at least they didn't immediately use their first round pick to draft another QB. Also Rodgers is better than Cousins.
4:01. So. What the falcons drafted Penix. Get over it
Kirk screwed the Falcons when he signed that stupid contract.
Why blame Cousins when it was a need the Falcons needed? Blame the Falcons for basically being a dog chasing their own tail now. This has nothing to do with Cousins.
Was Kirk supposed to say “no you guys keep your $100 million guaranteed”? Come on man!