You are the only RUclipsr I know that explains upgrading your car the right way to a T. Everybody else just tells you to do this and do that but do not tell you the weak side of everything else. I appreciate that you actually took the time to explain everything ❤️💯
What type of cam and headers do you recommend? I like the different sound that it produces. The scat pack is fast enough for me as it is. I heard a RT with a cam and headers it was an amazing sound.
I love my charger scat pack it had plenty plenty of power basically I’m leaving it totally stock should be fun for a long long time, I’m only doing some cosmetic upgrades to the car so thankyou for the input
Once again you have taken a POINT and made many of us realize that it isn't as easy as just "modding away" without realizing that we must take into account things that might BREAK under STRESS of more POWER!
After owning a Challenger Scat Pack Shaker for a year or so I agree with your statement that the Scat Pack is a capable car right off the showroom floor without having to add anything! I loved driving it, and it scared the hell out of me a few times!. I had to get rid of my scat pack last year and miss it... But I did get an older RT and found that the 5.7 with the 6-speed transmission is as much, if not more fun then the Scat Pack with the Automatic! BTW if you ever take the exhaust manifold off that 392 and look inside you will see that there are individual tubes for each cylinder like shorty headers :)
Man, I just wanna say thanks for pointing these things out. So many people think they can just add power & be fine pushing the limits when this sadly just isn't the case. Like you said, this goes for any mechanical part, regardless of manufacturer. Only thing you left out was the breaking system. This too needs to be upgraded to compensate for the additional power & speed, but is far too often overlooked and/or taken for granted.
I'm wanting a RT real bad but have been researching the car to make sure its the right car for me. I don't want to buy a new challenger and then a year later wished I hadn't got it. RacerX makes videos I like to watch. He gives great information, pros and cons and the little details that others don't tell you.
You're 100% right about jumping into an expensive hobby , maybe make a whole video solely on wanting to own a fast car . I got myself into a 2011 GT500 @ 21 years old , knowing it'd be a costly hobby but never did I imagine to be spending the money I have . Clutches at $2,000 ... Throttle bodies at close to $1,000 , MT Street tires at $250 a pop ... I definitely don't regret getting into the hobby , I just wish I would've held off another year maybe to have a better grip on things . Many a times as you touched bases in this video do we hear non car people talk about slapping turbos , superchargers , nitrous on an engine and they have zero clue how much $$ in supporting mods thats gonna run them . Makes you appreciate things like Dodge putting out a car with 650/660RWHP with factory warranty
Thanks for an insightful video! Thats why I chose to keep my scat stock to keep reliability and told myself that in a few years (3-4 years) I would work towards getting a hellcat
340 cfm is flow numbers from back in the day for a ported and polished head.. You’ve made very good points.. I must admit you’re an honest and trust worthy youtuber promoting the hobby...👍🏾💵💵💵
Excellent! Many people who get into high performance cars without understanding the content mentioned in this video find troubled times their way. Understanding this is protecting your pocket and your investment. Those who desire extra power need to listen up to these comments. Thanks! Caribbean
I love watching Racer X's videos. I just bought a 2020 Challenger Wide Body Scatpack in Go Mango with a 6 speed manual. Living in Keller, It's a great car and Racer X is responsible for me making the decision to order and secure this car. Thank you!!
Beautiful Scat pack there Racer X! Just finished watching the video! I totally agree with you. The SCAT is already close to maxed out already. It's an amazing car for the money! I agree that you just can't throw power mods down w/o making sure the rest of the car can support it! With that, I'd totally be happy with a N/A 392 Chally! Have a great evening buddy! Thanks for the video!
Best stay under what ever the HP rating is for item... engine, transmission ect ........Peace of mind .....unless you have a race budget ...Lots of engineering went into this stuff and yeah they don't want to pay out warranty work........Great video sir
There are a few things I would like to add. First, start with a plan. By that I mean define goals and figure out what you need to accomplish them. As stated in the video include the supporting mods in addition to adding power. Second, develop a realistic budget. What you're like to find is if you want to make Scat Pack power with an R/T it will take Scat Pack money to do it. Another disadvantage to modding a lower trim level is that the car will actually be worth less than the same car that is kept stock. Most people will find that it is more cost effective to leave a lower trim car alone and save the money you need to buy the higher trim level. The problem people run into is that once they're invested in a car they'll keep adding to chase a number or compete with other cars. Finally, make sure you keep some money available because more horsepower breaks things and often at the worst time.
My goal is to go as fast as I can keeping the engine basically stock. It's gone 11.55 and I think there is an 11.4X in good DA. Had not heard the 15% rule before but will keep it in mind going forward. Thanks for the great video.
I’am glad that you are educating passionate sport car enthusiasts about the limit in hp&tq ,you can had to your already fast car from the manufacturer.😎👏😎🌈
Such a spot on video. I own a 2020 charger scat pack. The car is so optimized from the factory. You gotta be careful and thoughtful if you want to add power. If I wanted more power I would have saved up for a hellcat.
An interesting thing I learned this week, apparently the 2018+ Scat Packs now come stock with the BGE block from the hellcat. I also didn't know they came with a forged crank. So the block is good up to about 1000hp. Nothing else is going to hold that power stock, but the block is solid. lol
RacerX, THANK YOU; This Video Should Be REQUIRED READING FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS A MUSCLE CAR...Any Car; I AM Glad that YOU said All of THIS- There’s a Lot of NEWBIES That Needs to Hear The FACTS. KUDOS FOR ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!👍
I think you are referring to ring END gap. Ring lands are the flat surfaces in between the ring grooves. You need larger ring end gaps if you want to use power adders because the heat causes the ring gap to close completely, and push upwards causing a ring or piston failure. The top ring on the 392 sits pretty high, not leaving much material there once the ring end gap closes. For nitrous or turbo/supercharging a 392, ring end gap should be around .025-.028". .006 per inch of bore for nitrous/supercharger. Hope this helps so people keep em together.
My local dyno shop says the 5.7 holds boost a lot better than the 6.4. I was a little surprised by that. They do all the various kits, but prefer the Whipple kit due to its better cooling.
Scatpack doesn’t need much done to it to be faster . I have a jay Greene tune , stainless works mid pipes and hellcat air box on my 19 scat charger . Making a lot more power than people think . 11.6 1/4 mile , 0-60 3.3 seconds .. does extremely well roll racing also . Modding the car is risky cause of the locked PCM , I broke my transmission after 200 passes , luckily kept my stock pcm .. denied all of dodges accusations (that my car was modded) and afternoon 1 month I walked out with a brand new transmission . Good video 🤟🏽
I agree with you on adding power to any vehicle. Just like when I started racing my Ice cream van. Started with just a camshaft and had no problems. Then added nitrous. Broke the driveshaft, then the engine mount, then a piston when I added more nitrous. Built new engine to handle 300 shot of nitrous. Broke the Dana 60 axle shaft. Installed Dutchman 4130 axles. Then the slip yoke, then the transmission , haven't had any thing break sense January. I still haven't turned up the nitrous above 250 yet.
Great Vid! I see a variety of serious power adders such as twin turbos and ProChargers for the 392 and it’s tempting, but there’s way more to the chemistry than these parts alone. Like you mentioned, you have to do it right by beefing everything else up.
I drive/mod focus st (430whp/442wtq). its th same with these as well for th piston rings and top ring has smaller gap than bottom which causes alot of blown motors in these cars as well.
The 5.7 has come a long way from when it was first introduced. Dodge has pretty much refined things to the point to where its almost pointless to mod anything, short of cosmetics. If you want to step up in power, just buy the next best model up. At least it will have a warranty. And I know part of the fun in owning these cars, is creating something that the factory didn't have available. For those people, there's nothing to stop them, but the lack of money. And that, to me, is the catch. There's going to be a point to where throwing more money at that engine and set up, is going to become pointless. The only cars worth modding past improving headers, cams and intake, IMO, are the Hellcats. For those of us that love the Ram, we're just SOL. There is no 'next model up', so to speak. We are forced to take chances, since RAM refuses to make a muscle truck for us (the R/T and 'Sport' Crew Cabs, are a bad joke coming from the factory, requiring extensive modding from owners to be remotely plausible). But this is a tale, for another day... (cue the end music to Conan the Barbarian)
@@RacerX9 The TRX looks to be a badass truck for the offroaders. I'm sort of excited for those that dare to challenge rough terrain. I see them from time to time over there just outside of Grand Prairie, ripping up the hillside. 😄 But for us guys on the street, not having a good muscle truck, really sucks. It's almost as if I'm exhibiting some envy for the Challenger and Charger owners. Well, yeah, sort of.
Good video, I say if you replace a drive shaft, replace the differential. Add a blower then you add fuel injectors. Can't just do one and forget the other. I'm fine with stock. I love it
I agree the specs would look good but just like the SRT 392 is faster than the scat pack even though the SRT is 200 pounds HEAVIER. With The same engine and same transmission Tests of removing 300 pounds makes maybe .1 sec difference The 1320 392 hemi is an 11 sec car. I don’t think less weight would make it as fast as a hellcat
Dodge pays attention and learns from its competitors. Aluminum blocks have been tried in the past by both motorcycle and car manufacturers. Low reliability tends to keep these designs from going to market. Ironically, aluminum blocks are often used in race engines for increased performance. Often times these engines are used then discarded after each race.
@@evildrizzt1 Chevy has been making aluminum block LS motors since the late 90's and they're well known for their longevity and reliability. Don't tell me Dodge can't figure out how to do the same.
My RT is now FBO with a Greene Racing tune. Learned over 7 months the 5.7’s are very bottled up and react to mods way better than a 392. Expensive hobby but LOVE IT! Be very meticulous and work with your tuner to have a bad ass ride but also keep longevity. Like you said, never take shortcuts do it right. Next mod will be a custom grind cam etc.
I know I'm late to the party, but the 1 thing I hate is when a guy dumps a bunch of money into the power of their car but neglects the suspension and brakes. I love going fast, but I also love being able to stop as well as I can go. Subbed; owner of a '12 Challenger R/T
Man you're 100% right why even bother. Modding your engine isn't easy you have to cover all the weak points. I kept it simple. I just added a K&N intake some new headers a new throttle body and a tune for my 2014 R/T. These are minor mods I'm completely happy with.
When i waz a teenager we had a 65ss impala n we were always adding stuff but ebery time we added for hp we broke something almost emidately. Bacc to the drawing board to figure out wut needs to b changed to work wit n for hp we added. It waz fun but fruatrating at the same time.
welp... there GOES my blueprint to add cam, CAI, headers,tuner, rear end gears, stall converter.. #FACTS-don't-care-about-yo-feelings ~ DAM GOOD VIDEO/ADVICE ~ I AM A NEW SUBBER TODAY
I got a builder/tuner he’s originally from texas but he stays in VA and goes back and forth to Texas. He has done a lot of hemi builds most or all of his 392 builds make 500-525 whp with cam heads ported intake and manifolds with headers. He also does his own tuning. He does all that work for around 6-8k 500 whp is enough to run 10s all n/a. His ig is mackbuilt
Sent my 2015 R/T auto to OST Dyno for a cam and header and tune. Before that I swapped the open diff for a 3.09 LSD. The before dyno was 350 the after was 434 W.H.P., now I am done, just getting a converter so the car will launch. Excellent point about the HP870 vs HP890, I figure scat pack power from a 5.7L is the limit of everything else in the car. If I want to go more I might do the TH400 and Ford 9" or the HP890 to keep it street friendly. but that is going to be a $$$ build.
RacerX I know! By the grace God everything kinda just fell into place and managed to get a really, really good price. But it’s everything I ever wanted! 😁
The 8hp70 is good for max 700lbft of torque. Found this on wikipedia. Not sure i would want to push more than 550 to 600lbft to it and keep it somewhat reliable. I am shooting for at least 100 more hp/torque for my ddsrt. Its going to be a pricey 100 though 😔 i did find the hp95 parts will, for the most part, be interchangable.. great vid as usual!!!!!
Well hopefully I'll be good with my RT. Swapped over a bunch of stuff from the 392. Differential, intake manifold, cam, headers, and midpipes. From stock it's probably about a 70 to 80 HP difference all together. The RT had a lot of restrictions. Technically the 392 is a built up 5.7. However I'll be careful if I do a blower, however I may just opt out of that as that could be used for a down payment. I'll admit, when I upgrade to a 392 or a Hellcat, I may just leave it stock (I said the same thing when I got my RT, so I'm probably lying when I say that). I imagine that the next generation Chargers will be improved, not just in performance, but also build quality and technology.
Smart man here to many people just chuck parts at it and wen it falls apart they wonder why hey this weekend I’m going twin turbo on my scat pac next weekend not driving scat pac thencar fell apart axels drive shafts it’s a expensive hobby you play you pay
Thanks for this vid. My buddy has one and this is good info. Thanks. I just bought a hellcat and already want more power. Lol. It’s highly addicting. Now I understand
Drop in pistons, hellcat airbox, mid pipe delete or full exhaust with longtube headers and tune. Should get up to 500 whp good enough for me. Please Dodge bring back 426 7 liter hemi. for the scatpack or maybe the 440 ?.
Another great video Racer X 👍. Every time I think about a Procharger on my 5.7 Daytona I just think for the money I would spend I could just trade it in on a 392. Plus the other upgrades I’d need. LSD would be first on the list.
Just added a 87mm throttle body’, a oil catch, added the corsa extreme cat back exhaust and have a corsa extreme intake on mine along with a jms throttle knob that’s all I’m doing to her for now! Super satisfied!!! Mopar or no car! 🏎💨 I wanna make a RUclips about it but I suck at vlogging haha
Your buddy, B Mason has repeated what you said many times on his live chats about the 392. He constantly refers to the ringland gap being to tight. He said it was for emissions. And he repeats how optimized they already are from the factory.
I put a cold air intake on my Challenger Scat Pack and went from 485hp motor to 797hp..well I might have traded up somewhere too lol. My B5 Blue Scat Pack was a great car, still miss it, but my B5 Blue Redeye is pretty fun too
Real good information on my scatpack x man at 72 years old I love Driving my Scatpack if I need more Hp I'll be going to the dealer for that Hellcat I have a 1969 Nova SS in my garage with a 496 Dana rear end 410 gears guess what car I drive
I love my 392 no need for more power. Its more than enough power 🔋. Great content my . Inspired me to go hard on my RUclips Channel. Keep the great videos 📹 coming 👊🏿💯
Until a 2020 5.0 or SS pulls up next to! 🤷🏽♂️😂😂😂😂 speaking from experience!!! They are too heavy! Stock for stock a 392 looks & feels slow compared to a SS or 5.0! Wheel spin wheel spin wheel spin! The R/T gets better grip off the line! Lol yet is the slower of the 3! 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 I know ive driven everything dodge has minus the red eye & demon!! Shit my old stock 2019 Nissan GTR -35 spanked a plum crazy hellcat owner was all mad cuz all he can do is try to go fast in a straight line w/out spinning! Terrible lane changing car! 🤣🤣🤣
What about headers? I was looking to add long tube headers on my 2015 R/T is there something I should do before I add the headers? I put on the Borla ATAK exhaust a few months back.
i have a 2010 charger RT super track pack r29 package .. this cars has over 222000 miles..no problem whatsoever my upgrades include 95 percent of mopar upgrades..6.1 intake..srt headers throttle body spacer, resonator delete flowmaster exhaust..catch can.. mopar CAI viper wide body wheels...diablo tune 93 octane 0-60 5 seconds 420 HP at wheels all bolt on 12 second car at track...the only thing i notice between the 392 and 5.7 is the 392 from 60 to 120 is a few seconds faster than r/t..BTW the 6.1 intake(expensive upgrade :)) if tuned does 15 to 20 more HP it sounds insane also get a pedal commander
Another great video, X. I've been wondering, since you spoke of upgrading the fueling system, what you thought of the gas/oil companies adjusting the price of the different gas levels. In the 80s and 90s, and possibly the 2000s, the gas could be purchased at about a 10 cent difference between the grades. 87 octane may have been at 3 dollars a gallon and you'd see 89 at 3.10 and 92/93 at 3.20. Now, there seems to be about a 30+ cent difference between the grades. Could you examine whether that is due to a difference in cost/production or whether that's because these high horsepower monsters have become such a large part of everyday driving? My thought is the latter. Keep up the great work, X. Horsepower=Happiness
So adding a Ripp supercharger to a V6 Pentastar to get Scat-Pack power is better, safer, more reliable than adding power for an RT 5.7 to get Scat-Pack power? Thanks for the tips and info on 5.7 and 6.4.
Racer X : I’ve got my 2014 RT Redline . I’m trying to decide whether to invest and buy the whole Borla exhaust system from front to back with new long tube headers . Let me know
I have a 2020 Charger Scat Pack with Stock 245/45R20’s. I would like to know what would be the best Wheel/Tire Combo that will fit on my Charger. I took it to the Drag Strip last weekend and could not get out of the box for anything. Was spinning half way down the track. Best reaction time was .021. But because of spinning was running mid 13’s. Would like to go to a 305 or 315 but would like to know what specific wheel/tire combo would be best.
I absolutely love my 2015 Challenger R/T plus. In my opinion, its got plenty of power to get into trouble lol. Ive looked at doing some engine upgrades to my R/T but in the end I realize that there engines or 5.7 rather are just not designed to breathe like a 6.2 hellcat, there for once again in my opinion, I believe if I want to spend money on upgrading my R/T I'd be money ahead to sell it and find a nice used Hellcat, which I've seen some nice ones for in the mid 40k range. I payed 28k for my R/T plus and it has petty much every opinion available, but how many thousands of $ would I have to put into it and still not come close to the power of a Hellcat Challenger, and like you said, how reliable is it going to be?? Just some of my thoughts.. lol. Love you videos RacerX, keep up the incredible work 😉👍👍
Technology has definitely come a looong way! You can drop a bunch of money building a very fast car but there's always gonna be somebody faster than you reguardless of how much money you have in your car
I'm gonna boost a 5.0, I'm starting with clutch and shifter, one piece driveshaft, once the engine is open I'll do oil pump, chain system, and cams, finally I'll do blower. I expect to spend around 12k to get that all done. Once I'm fast I'll worry about the looks.
Mds and number 7 lifter failure.And oil pressure going with a hellcat pump. Mopar Drop the Ball. But tunning is key. And a pcm fully open and ecm. Thats what involved if go the deep forge inject and pump. Dod cam
I have a 06 subaru sti making 530whp. It took ALOT of $$$ to do it correctly. Hp breaks stuff is a true statement. Motor mounts, trans mounts, drive shaft, axles. Snapped the stock axles like a twig on a hard launch one time.
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No gimmicks , no click bait , no BS . Racer X only delivers helpful , useful, and his honest opinions from his videos . Cheers
Thank you Mike 🤜🔥🔥
Agreed
X gon' give it to ya
For real bro😂😂❤
Facts
Your knowledge is amazing, I am a 5.7 guy,you always keep us involved in the channel , much appreciated !
Leonidas Tullius .. no worries my friend
Car modding is like a facelift you’ll never stop until your face is destroyed.
Somebody tell that to Hellgato. 😂
bawahaha
😂😂
I love my Daytona 392.. I have tons of fun driving it...never leaves me saying “ Mo Power Baby” 😉😀😀
Lol I’m pretty sure if I drive the space shuttle I would still try to get it tuned and add exhaust 😂
RacerX 😂🤷🏽♂️ ikr just the nature of the beast
You are the only RUclipsr I know that explains upgrading your car the right way to a T. Everybody else just tells you to do this and do that but do not tell you the weak side of everything else. I appreciate that you actually took the time to explain everything ❤️💯
Absolutely my friend.. you have to look at the whole picture 👍
What type of cam and headers do you recommend? I like the different sound that it produces. The scat pack is fast enough for me as it is. I heard a RT with a cam and headers it was an amazing sound.
I love my charger scat pack it had plenty plenty of power basically I’m leaving it totally stock should be fun for a long long time, I’m only doing some cosmetic upgrades to the car so thankyou for the input
Nothing wrong with that Tom 👍
Tom you are exactly correct and the Edelbrock E-Force™ Stage 1 Street Supercharger System looks cosmetically wonderful! ;
Once again you have taken a POINT and made many of us realize that it isn't as easy as just "modding away" without realizing that we must take into account things that might BREAK under STRESS of more POWER!
That's why I'm fully invested in my stocked Hellcat....Happy camper here....Save time n money....Points well made n taken Racer X!
For sure my friend 🤜🔥
After owning a Challenger Scat Pack Shaker for a year or so I agree with your statement that the Scat Pack is a capable car right off the showroom floor without having to add anything! I loved driving it, and it scared the hell out of me a few times!. I had to get rid of my scat pack last year and miss it... But I did get an older RT and found that the 5.7 with the 6-speed transmission is as much, if not more fun then the Scat Pack with the Automatic! BTW if you ever take the exhaust manifold off that 392 and look inside you will see that there are individual tubes for each cylinder like shorty headers :)
Man, I just wanna say thanks for pointing these things out. So many people think they can just add power & be fine pushing the limits when this sadly just isn't the case. Like you said, this goes for any mechanical part, regardless of manufacturer. Only thing you left out was the breaking system. This too needs to be upgraded to compensate for the additional power & speed, but is far too often overlooked and/or taken for granted.
I'm wanting a RT real bad but have been researching the car to make sure its the right car for me. I don't want to buy a new challenger and then a year later wished I hadn't got it. RacerX makes videos I like to watch. He gives great information, pros and cons and the little details that others don't tell you.
You're 100% right about jumping into an expensive hobby , maybe make a whole video solely on wanting to own a fast car . I got myself into a 2011 GT500 @ 21 years old , knowing it'd be a costly hobby but never did I imagine to be spending the money I have . Clutches at $2,000 ... Throttle bodies at close to $1,000 , MT Street tires at $250 a pop ... I definitely don't regret getting into the hobby , I just wish I would've held off another year maybe to have a better grip on things . Many a times as you touched bases in this video do we hear non car people talk about slapping turbos , superchargers , nitrous on an engine and they have zero clue how much $$ in supporting mods thats gonna run them . Makes you appreciate things like Dodge putting out a car with 650/660RWHP with factory warranty
Yes horsepower costs money.. and the car hobby is definitely an expensive one
Thank you Racer X, these matters have been on my mind, and you clarified this very well, and very rationally.. Tanks again..
Thanks for an insightful video! Thats why I chose to keep my scat stock to keep reliability and told myself that in a few years (3-4 years) I would work towards getting a hellcat
Sounds like an awesome plan
340 cfm is flow numbers from back in the day for a ported and polished head.. You’ve made very good points.. I must admit you’re an honest and trust worthy youtuber promoting the hobby...👍🏾💵💵💵
So True! I'm building a Jeep Wk2 5.7 from front to rear. Solid build plus the braking, suspension, Drive train, ect...
Excellent! Many people who get into high performance cars without understanding the content mentioned in this video find troubled times their way. Understanding this is protecting your pocket and your investment. Those who desire extra power need to listen up to these comments. Thanks! Caribbean
I love watching Racer X's videos. I just bought a 2020 Challenger Wide Body Scatpack in Go Mango with a 6 speed manual. Living in Keller, It's a great car and Racer X is responsible for me making the decision to order and secure this car. Thank you!!
Beautiful Scat pack there Racer X! Just finished watching the video! I totally agree with you. The SCAT is already close to maxed out already. It's an amazing car for the money! I agree that you just can't throw power mods down w/o making sure the rest of the car can support it! With that, I'd totally be happy with a N/A 392 Chally! Have a great evening buddy! Thanks for the video!
Sovereign Knight .. for sure buddy🤜🔥.. love the scat on the street
Thanks big bro. Best advice ever from mods.
Literally every question I have you answer in a different video, you have earned my follow my mans I appreciate you and your content
This should be given as a mandatory video to watch for every teen or middle aged hot rodder who has spent the bulk of his adult life in a Camry
Best stay under what ever the HP rating is for item... engine, transmission ect ........Peace of mind .....unless you have a race budget ...Lots of engineering went into this stuff and yeah they don't want to pay out warranty work........Great video sir
Agreed my friend.. much appreciated
Appreciate your info RacerX. I kept my challenger scatpack widebody stocked plus an oil catch can. Always puts a smile on my face. SRT 🔥.
There are a few things I would like to add. First, start with a plan. By that I mean define goals and figure out what you need to accomplish them. As stated in the video include the supporting mods in addition to adding power. Second, develop a realistic budget. What you're like to find is if you want to make Scat Pack power with an R/T it will take Scat Pack money to do it. Another disadvantage to modding a lower trim level is that the car will actually be worth less than the same car that is kept stock. Most people will find that it is more cost effective to leave a lower trim car alone and save the money you need to buy the higher trim level. The problem people run into is that once they're invested in a car they'll keep adding to chase a number or compete with other cars. Finally, make sure you keep some money available because more horsepower breaks things and often at the worst time.
My goal is to go as fast as I can keeping the engine basically stock. It's gone 11.55 and I think there is an 11.4X in good DA. Had not heard the 15% rule before but will keep it in mind going forward. Thanks for the great video.
Bob P .. wow 11.55 under stock power is very impressive 👍
I’am glad that you are educating passionate sport car enthusiasts about the limit in hp&tq ,you can had to your already fast car from the manufacturer.😎👏😎🌈
Serge Basque .. I appreciate that my friend
Wow a channel with common sense, good job
Thank you Jeff
Such a spot on video. I own a 2020 charger scat pack. The car is so optimized from the factory. You gotta be careful and thoughtful if you want to add power. If I wanted more power I would have saved up for a hellcat.
An interesting thing I learned this week, apparently the 2018+ Scat Packs now come stock with the BGE block from the hellcat. I also didn't know they came with a forged crank. So the block is good up to about 1000hp. Nothing else is going to hold that power stock, but the block is solid. lol
Very prudent advice from someone who does things very well when it comes to their vehicles. Well done sir!
Excellent video, nice job X!!
RacerX, THANK YOU; This Video Should Be REQUIRED READING FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS A MUSCLE CAR...Any Car; I AM Glad that YOU said All of THIS- There’s a Lot of NEWBIES That Needs to Hear The FACTS. KUDOS FOR ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!👍
Thank you my friend
I think you are referring to ring END gap. Ring lands are the flat surfaces in between the ring grooves. You need larger ring end gaps if you want to use power adders because the heat causes the ring gap to close completely, and push upwards causing a ring or piston failure. The top ring on the 392 sits pretty high, not leaving much material there once the ring end gap closes. For nitrous or turbo/supercharging a 392, ring end gap should be around .025-.028". .006 per inch of bore for nitrous/supercharger.
Hope this helps so people keep em together.
My local dyno shop says the 5.7 holds boost a lot better than the 6.4. I was a little surprised by that. They do all the various kits, but prefer the Whipple kit due to its better cooling.
Scatpack doesn’t need much done to it to be faster . I have a jay Greene tune , stainless works mid pipes and hellcat air box on my 19 scat charger . Making a lot more power than people think . 11.6 1/4 mile , 0-60 3.3 seconds .. does extremely well roll racing also . Modding the car is risky cause of the locked PCM , I broke my transmission after 200 passes , luckily kept my stock pcm .. denied all of dodges accusations (that my car was modded) and afternoon 1 month I walked out with a brand new transmission .
Good video 🤟🏽
Great video brother, hope you save some folks the headaches of expensive learning. Keep rolling!!
Destroyer1320 .. thanks buddy
I agree with you on adding power to any vehicle. Just like when I started racing my Ice cream van. Started with just a camshaft and had no problems. Then added nitrous. Broke the driveshaft, then the engine mount, then a piston when I added more nitrous. Built new engine to handle 300 shot of nitrous. Broke the Dana 60 axle shaft. Installed Dutchman 4130 axles. Then the slip yoke, then the transmission , haven't had any thing break sense January. I still haven't turned up the nitrous above 250 yet.
Love the thought of racing the van 👍.. that’s awesome buddy
Great explanation!! Adding too much horsepower will show you what the weakest link is for sure!! Thanks for the info!
TODDSNAKE .. you bet my friend 🤜🔥🔥
GREAT info. Its like doing steroids without working out "more", you will end up stressing or blocking something
Makes perfect sense if you start putting high performance stuff on you gotta pretty much upgrade everything just to be on the safe side
Great Vid! I see a variety of serious power adders such as twin turbos and ProChargers for the 392 and it’s tempting, but there’s way more to the chemistry than these parts alone. Like you mentioned, you have to do it right by beefing everything else up.
Exactly right Juan
Its going to be a while before I supercharge my 392 but I'm definitely looking into getting it tuned. Need more "passing" power 😂
I drive/mod focus st (430whp/442wtq). its th same with these as well for th piston rings and top ring has smaller gap than bottom which causes alot of blown motors in these cars as well.
The 5.7 has come a long way from when it was first introduced. Dodge has pretty much refined things to the point to where its almost pointless to mod anything, short of cosmetics. If you want to step up in power, just buy the next best model up. At least it will have a warranty.
And I know part of the fun in owning these cars, is creating something that the factory didn't have available. For those people, there's nothing to stop them, but the lack of money. And that, to me, is the catch. There's going to be a point to where throwing more money at that engine and set up, is going to become pointless. The only cars worth modding past improving headers, cams and intake, IMO, are the Hellcats.
For those of us that love the Ram, we're just SOL. There is no 'next model up', so to speak. We are forced to take chances, since RAM refuses to make a muscle truck for us (the R/T and 'Sport' Crew Cabs, are a bad joke coming from the factory, requiring extensive modding from owners to be remotely plausible). But this is a tale, for another day... (cue the end music to Conan the Barbarian)
All good points my friend.. who knows maybe the TRX will materialize 👍
@@RacerX9 The TRX looks to be a badass truck for the offroaders. I'm sort of excited for those that dare to challenge rough terrain. I see them from time to time over there just outside of Grand Prairie, ripping up the hillside. 😄 But for us guys on the street, not having a good muscle truck, really sucks. It's almost as if I'm exhibiting some envy for the Challenger and Charger owners. Well, yeah, sort of.
Good video, I say if you replace a drive shaft, replace the differential. Add a blower then you add fuel injectors. Can't just do one and forget the other. I'm fine with stock. I love it
The one thing I really wish dodge would do is make the blocks aluminum. To make it faster you need more power or less weight
I agree the specs would look good but just like the SRT 392 is faster than the scat pack even though the SRT is 200 pounds HEAVIER. With The same engine and same transmission Tests of removing 300 pounds makes maybe .1 sec difference The 1320 392 hemi is an 11 sec car. I don’t think less weight would make it as fast as a hellcat
Yes I fully Robbie.. less weight would be great
John Anderson
Your correct. My comment was just to say if the ole girl went to jenny craig she could be much faster
Dodge pays attention and learns from its competitors. Aluminum blocks have been tried in the past by both motorcycle and car manufacturers. Low reliability tends to keep these designs from going to market. Ironically, aluminum blocks are often used in race engines for increased performance. Often times these engines are used then discarded after each race.
@@evildrizzt1 Chevy has been making aluminum block LS motors since the late 90's and they're well known for their longevity and reliability. Don't tell me Dodge can't figure out how to do the same.
My RT is now FBO with a Greene Racing tune. Learned over 7 months the 5.7’s are very bottled up and react to mods way better than a 392. Expensive hobby but LOVE IT! Be very meticulous and work with your tuner to have a bad ass ride but also keep longevity. Like you said, never take shortcuts do it right. Next mod will be a custom grind cam etc.
Love the little clip “that’s not how any of this work”. :-)
Haha thought it seemed appropriate 👍
Great in depth info on the internal breakdown...
I'm enjoying my Scat Pack with some cosmetic upgrades and will keep the 15% rule in mind with any bolt-ones. Thanks RacerX.
You bet Mike 👍
"Comes with its Challenges......." Well it is a Challenger my friend :) thanks for the info brother.
I know I'm late to the party, but the 1 thing I hate is when a guy dumps a bunch of money into the power of their car but neglects the suspension and brakes. I love going fast, but I also love being able to stop as well as I can go. Subbed; owner of a '12 Challenger R/T
Man you're 100% right why even bother. Modding your engine isn't easy you have to cover all the weak points. I kept it simple. I just added a K&N intake some new headers a new throttle body and a tune for my 2014 R/T. These are minor mods I'm completely happy with.
Lol I know I'm a year late but I feel the same way about my RT til this day it doesn't take much to have fun the 5.7s already come solid...
That laugh in the intro with the burnout cracks me up!!
When i waz a teenager we had a 65ss impala n we were always adding stuff but ebery time we added for hp we broke something almost emidately.
Bacc to the drawing board to figure out wut needs to b changed to work wit n for hp we added.
It waz fun but fruatrating at the same time.
welp...
there GOES my blueprint to add cam, CAI, headers,tuner, rear end gears, stall converter..
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🏆Racer X 🏆 thanks for the ride in your 🍀time machine 👀✌️
I got a builder/tuner he’s originally from texas but he stays in VA and goes back and forth to Texas. He has done a lot of hemi builds most or all of his 392 builds make 500-525 whp with cam heads ported intake and manifolds with headers. He also does his own tuning. He does all that work for around 6-8k 500 whp is enough to run 10s all n/a. His ig is mackbuilt
Sent my 2015 R/T auto to OST Dyno for a cam and header and tune. Before that I swapped the open diff for a 3.09 LSD. The before dyno was 350 the after was 434 W.H.P., now I am done, just getting a converter so the car will launch. Excellent point about the HP870 vs HP890, I figure scat pack power from a 5.7L is the limit of everything else in the car. If I want to go more I might do the TH400 and Ford 9" or the HP890 to keep it street friendly. but that is going to be a $$$ build.
Just got a fully 2019 Shaker Scat in Destroyer Grey as my first car few days ago! Can’t wait to start doing a little here n there to it!
Wow what a first car 😳
RacerX I know! By the grace God everything kinda just fell into place and managed to get a really, really good price. But it’s everything I ever wanted! 😁
Great video, very insightful. Just purchased my first mopar car, can’t wait to make some minor mods to it.
The 8hp70 is good for max 700lbft of torque. Found this on wikipedia. Not sure i would want to push more than 550 to 600lbft to it and keep it somewhat reliable. I am shooting for at least 100 more hp/torque for my ddsrt. Its going to be a pricey 100 though 😔 i did find the hp95 parts will, for the most part, be interchangable.. great vid as usual!!!!!
Well hopefully I'll be good with my RT. Swapped over a bunch of stuff from the 392. Differential, intake manifold, cam, headers, and midpipes. From stock it's probably about a 70 to 80 HP difference all together. The RT had a lot of restrictions. Technically the 392 is a built up 5.7.
However I'll be careful if I do a blower, however I may just opt out of that as that could be used for a down payment. I'll admit, when I upgrade to a 392 or a Hellcat, I may just leave it stock (I said the same thing when I got my RT, so I'm probably lying when I say that). I imagine that the next generation Chargers will be improved, not just in performance, but also build quality and technology.
Smart man here to many people just chuck parts at it and wen it falls apart they wonder why hey this weekend I’m going twin turbo on my scat pac next weekend not driving scat pac thencar fell apart axels drive shafts it’s a expensive hobby you play you pay
Thank You for your insight and content on your channel. Straight up realizum
Love this channel!!! Thanks Racer X!!!!
Is there a lopey cam / tune set up that will add around 50 HP to a 392, that doesn't require me to upgrade anything else in the car? Thanks.
Thanks for this vid. My buddy has one and this is good info. Thanks. I just bought a hellcat and already want more power. Lol. It’s highly addicting. Now I understand
Drop in pistons, hellcat airbox, mid pipe delete or full exhaust with longtube headers and tune. Should get up to 500 whp good enough for me. Please Dodge bring back 426 7 liter hemi. for the scatpack or maybe the 440 ?.
Paul Reza .. I would love to see the 426 make a come back
You dont need new pistons to make 500whp on a scat pack, watch omgitsmrmack dudes a legend
Another great video Racer X 👍. Every time I think about a Procharger on my 5.7 Daytona I just think for the money I would spend I could just trade it in on a 392. Plus the other upgrades I’d need. LSD would be first on the list.
Eric Taylor .. absolutely my friend! It’s expensive to play the power game
People don't understand, 480-485 hp is nothing to sneeze at. It's a scary ride. Fun but still scary
Can take you off the road super easily
Just added a 87mm throttle body’, a oil catch, added the corsa extreme cat back exhaust and have a corsa extreme intake on mine along with a jms throttle knob that’s all I’m doing to her for now! Super satisfied!!! Mopar or no car! 🏎💨 I wanna make a RUclips about it but I suck at vlogging haha
Give it a shot brother.. you have to start somewhere
Bro have eyes like the white walkers on Game of Thrones lol... Love your content and how informative you are though.. keep it up!
This is all accurate. I have a 392 with a procharger for a reason. All has been good but I don’t race it.
Hope your loving that beast
Great video X, a lot of people don't understand you can't just slap boost on any car and make it fast lol
Keep it up brother 🤙🏽
Hey thanks buddy.. much appreciated.
I have a 2020 Challenger Scat Pack I just want add 20hp so what is the easy way to do that?
Your buddy, B Mason has repeated what you said many times on his live chats about the 392. He constantly refers to the ringland gap being to tight. He said it was for emissions. And he repeats how optimized they already are from the factory.
Yes we both agree on many of these points 👍
@Mike Gee no sir the real hemi is 426 them hemi heads you cant beat
Could i add a procharger to my stock Challnger R/T? if not, what do you recommend upgrading first?
I put a cold air intake on my Challenger Scat Pack and went from 485hp motor to 797hp..well I might have traded up somewhere too lol. My B5 Blue Scat Pack was a great car, still miss it, but my B5 Blue Redeye is pretty fun too
312 HP from a cold air intake? No way.
Real good information on my scatpack x man at 72 years old I love Driving my Scatpack if I need more Hp I'll be going to the dealer for that Hellcat I have a 1969 Nova SS in my garage with a 496 Dana rear end 410 gears guess what car I drive
both lmao
Haha nice.. I think I would enjoy both 👍
Trying to find info ,where can I find after market cams for my 2019 dodge challenger sxt plus 3.6 vvt
Great video for young and old car owners alike!
jflo_262 .. thank you my friend 👍
I love my 392 no need for more power. Its more than enough power 🔋. Great content my . Inspired me to go hard on my RUclips Channel. Keep the great videos 📹 coming 👊🏿💯
Nice.. keep up the grind my friend. Much appreciated
Until a 2020 5.0 or SS pulls up next to! 🤷🏽♂️😂😂😂😂 speaking from experience!!! They are too heavy! Stock for stock a 392 looks & feels slow compared to a SS or 5.0! Wheel spin wheel spin wheel spin! The R/T gets better grip off the line! Lol yet is the slower of the 3! 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 I know ive driven everything dodge has minus the red eye & demon!! Shit my old stock 2019 Nissan GTR -35 spanked a plum crazy hellcat owner was all mad cuz all he can do is try to go fast in a straight line w/out spinning! Terrible lane changing car! 🤣🤣🤣
Nice. Can't wait 2c the 2020 widebody shaker come out.
What about headers? I was looking to add long tube headers on my 2015 R/T is there something I should do before I add the headers? I put on the Borla ATAK exhaust a few months back.
i have a 2010 charger RT super track pack r29 package .. this cars has over 222000 miles..no problem whatsoever my upgrades include 95 percent of mopar upgrades..6.1 intake..srt headers throttle body spacer, resonator delete flowmaster exhaust..catch can.. mopar CAI viper wide body wheels...diablo tune 93 octane 0-60 5 seconds 420 HP at wheels all bolt on 12 second car at track...the only thing i notice between the 392 and 5.7 is the 392 from 60 to 120 is a few seconds faster than r/t..BTW the 6.1 intake(expensive upgrade :)) if tuned does 15 to 20 more HP it sounds insane also get a pedal commander
Another great video, X. I've been wondering, since you spoke of upgrading the fueling system, what you thought of the gas/oil companies adjusting the price of the different gas levels. In the 80s and 90s, and possibly the 2000s, the gas could be purchased at about a 10 cent difference between the grades. 87 octane may have been at 3 dollars a gallon and you'd see 89 at 3.10 and 92/93 at 3.20. Now, there seems to be about a 30+ cent difference between the grades. Could you examine whether that is due to a difference in cost/production or whether that's because these high horsepower monsters have become such a large part of everyday driving? My thought is the latter.
Keep up the great work, X.
Horsepower=Happiness
What can I do to my RT and keep it at the 15 percent to make it faster?
So adding a Ripp supercharger to a V6 Pentastar to get Scat-Pack power is better, safer, more reliable than adding power for an RT 5.7 to get Scat-Pack power?
Thanks for the tips and info on 5.7 and 6.4.
" That's not how this works.
It's not how Any of this works "😭😭😂😂
Racer X : I’ve got my 2014 RT Redline . I’m trying to decide whether to invest and buy the whole Borla exhaust system from front to back with new long tube headers . Let me know
Can you explain how the cold intake tube works with the existing running lights on the challenger scat pack?
I have a 2020 Charger Scat Pack with Stock 245/45R20’s. I would like to know what would be the best Wheel/Tire Combo that will fit on my Charger. I took it to the Drag Strip last weekend and could not get out of the box for anything. Was spinning half way down the track. Best reaction time was .021. But because of spinning was running mid 13’s. Would like to go to a 305 or 315 but would like to know what specific wheel/tire combo would be best.
Lots of great advise, where were you 30 yrs. ago LOL. Youngsters... please listen, he knows what he speaks!
I own a 2015 Charger R/T....What is the HP threshold to add more power? I would love to top out around 500hp....any suggestions on upgrading?
I absolutely love my 2015 Challenger R/T plus. In my opinion, its got plenty of power to get into trouble lol. Ive looked at doing some engine upgrades to my R/T but in the end I realize that there engines or 5.7 rather are just not designed to breathe like a 6.2 hellcat, there for once again in my opinion, I believe if I want to spend money on upgrading my R/T I'd be money ahead to sell it and find a nice used Hellcat, which I've seen some nice ones for in the mid 40k range. I payed 28k for my R/T plus and it has petty much every opinion available, but how many thousands of $ would I have to put into it and still not come close to the power of a Hellcat Challenger, and like you said, how reliable is it going to be?? Just some of my thoughts.. lol. Love you videos RacerX, keep up the incredible work 😉👍👍
Technology has definitely come a looong way! You can drop a bunch of money building a very fast car but there's always gonna be somebody faster than you reguardless of how much money you have in your car
You are absolutely right Jack 👍.. no question
I'm gonna boost a 5.0, I'm starting with clutch and shifter, one piece driveshaft, once the engine is open I'll do oil pump, chain system, and cams, finally I'll do blower. I expect to spend around 12k to get that all done. Once I'm fast I'll worry about the looks.
Sounds like a solid plan my friend.
Watch out for crowds.
Robby Turbo that’s the funniest joke I’ve ever heard!! And I’ve never heard it before!! Hilarious!!!
Mds and number 7 lifter failure.And oil pressure going with a hellcat pump. Mopar Drop the Ball. But tunning is key. And a pcm fully open and ecm. Thats what involved if go the deep forge inject and pump. Dod cam
I have a 06 subaru sti making 530whp. It took ALOT of $$$ to do it correctly. Hp breaks stuff is a true statement. Motor mounts, trans mounts, drive shaft, axles. Snapped the stock axles like a twig on a hard launch one time.
Absolutely.. its an expensive game we play lol