The RTX 4080 Neptune - Unnecessarily Overbuilt
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Today I take a look at thr RTX 4080 Neptune from IGame (Colorful) but do all of its bells abd whistles add anythitng but cost!?
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Colorful has been making some pretty nice improvements to their brand rep via quality build and design lifts, but it seems the crappy slogans are still around
MidniGhT KAleiDoScOpe?
@@johnfriedrich2307 lmao 🤣🤣
@@johnfriedrich2307 Palit lol
Are you buying a GPU or a slogan though? If I'd get a product in 2022 that doesn't cost a ton and doesn't set my fucking PC/home on fire, I couldn't care less if the packaging was riddled with the dumbest shit.
@@johnfriedrich2307 wHat'S yoUr GAME?
The card is definitely gorgeous, albeit I might skirt away from the colour.
But one thing this video really brought home for me, and that's how good this desk set-up and format for "on screen" reviews is now. It definitely shines and great use of a large monitor.
White should have stayed around. Its a great neutral. But why did they overbuild a 4080 and not a 4090? Maybe the video will discuss it 😄 (havent watched yet)
@@Justtwodangmany White is too bright
@@Justtwodangmany I'm sure the white will work for many. And a new white product generally always looks "clean".
But personally I would be concerned about longevity of the look and being slightly constrained with what else I could use in a particular build to give a decent theme (mismatched whites of other products for example).
@@iamChermac Many ppl do mismatched blacks. Everythings just a preference after all. I really miss the white motherboard options. Had white with copper. Now im back to a mixture of blacks, brushed aluminum, textured aluminum, and polished aluminum.
Oh, and im still using the white psu i finally found just as i upgraded to another motherboard that i cant get in white.
The sad thing is, this card will probably cost more than FE 4090, and it doesn't really need to be water-cooled.
This one has a 4090 version too. Get that
My local dealer said he can get me a 4090 for 2375$ hehe. Considering this one vs 7900 XTX watercooled versions. I'll wait
@@PotatoBoi69 local dealer. love how we start talking about GPUs like class A drugs
Yes it does, 320watt. My strix 2070 runs hot, 175 only but need 140mm x3 at 1500rpm to cool down, Ryzen 1700 65w liquid cooled.
@@dontlookatmyname5439 lmao. It's a a offline shop around 10km away. So i think that's what we should call it.
@@PotatoBoi69 2375 💀
Love how much thought was put into the clean wiring and rgb control. Fantastic looking card!
Yeah it looks good. But the tubes look kinda to short for bigger cases.
I am tempted to by it just for the clean look and the ease of cable management.
@@dyson9422 only sad thing is the card even so much cooler you cant clock it more than others cards...
@@ZondaRbg but you will have one of if not the most silent 4080. Anyway the price in Romania for any 4089 starts at 1800$ so people have clearly gone crazy. What's even crazier is that about 15 of 20 available have sold within hours in a country where the average salary net salary is around 300-400 usd. Even tho I'm a programmer and I could afford it much easier it just doesn't make sense when 3080's can be found second hand as low as 600-700 usd.
@@alexandruilea915 and in Bulgaria saw a good offer for 4090 Palit model for 1800 euro.
The "What's your game" slogan, I thought that's Galax? I know because I have a Galax RTX 2070 EX and it has that exact slogan on its side
I'm still glad you guys still show 1080p numbers.
I think Jay said in one of the videos that the majority of gamers use 1080p monitors, so it would be dumb to not include the bulk of the audience.
4080 is a tad overkill for 1080p
@@hairychesticles1 depends really. lot of 1080p monitors are high refresh. so some games, if you want absolutely maximum FPS and maximum graphics and rtx lighting, and whatnot, it may not be.
I have a 240hz 1080p display and it's great to see what hardware and games can push up into those higher numbers at that resolution. It's also hard to get higher resolution displays in the smaller size I need for my space.
@@DisEkript tell that to Linus
Thanks for including the 6950XT in the benchmarks. I'm definitely waiting for the 7900 XT/XTX cards to upgrade my RTX 3070. I'm running a 3840 x 1600 ultrawide and need a little more power. I'll take the hit to ray tracing if I don't have to play into Nvidia's BS. Nvidia clearly has nothing but contempt for their customers and they're clearly living in the crypto-fueled past.
big facts
Sell me the 3070 for cheap because im a poor bum
Haha I was gonna say why on earth are you upgrading… yeah I went 3080TI as I’m also running an ultra wide! But I agree with your choice of upgrade path… at this point I’m done with Nividea as well!
At 1440p wide screen, the 3070 was great, but the 1600p ultra-wide, it's pretty close to 4k. I'm actually getting low video memory messages on some games and applications.
I just made the switch from the 3070 Ti to the 6950XT due to constant driver crashes when editing. No more BSOD and the 6950XT was only a $20 difference after my exchanged at micro center, $789.99 for AMDs top tier 6000 series card is nothing to sneeze at
I'm either gonna wait until the 5000 series, or wait until some decent price cuts. My Asus TUF 3080 is gonna do me well for a while yet. These cards are just TOO expensive.
Did u actually buy the 3080 thinking you would not use it for at least 4 years?
@@fepethepenguin8287 I'm kind of fluid buying gpus. Sometimes I'll wait 2 or 3 years. Just depends really. But this time there isn't any point. I run a large 4K TV with it, so it's pretty much ideal for my use case.
yeah if you have 3000 series I wouldn't bother upgrading. 4000 series are very good but not really worth the upgrade if you already have a 3xxx
I'm waiting for the 13900KS to come out and I'm going to keep my 3080 Ti Hydro copper from EVGA. Just doesn't seem worth upgrading. Usually we upgrade my PC every other year while my wife takes the previous PC, and we hand hers to family or sell it. But this gen of graphics cards just don't make sense in a price vs performance argument.
Are you talking about monthly electric bill or one time payment? I have 175w strix 2070 and I hate it, eating too much wattage.
You guys need to put B roll behind the graphs. I'd like to see more of the card installed and powered up.
I belive the reason why they are chosing 360mm AIO over 240mm is by looks, not performance. If you think about it, most of the newest cases are treating 3x120mm fans sizes as "requested" to mantein a good-looking build. The popular Lian-Li cases are almost must-have to this type of radiator suport.
As someone who lives in south east Asia I was able to pick this card up for the same price as a regular 4080 today… so far I love it, very premium product and to me, worth the money, coming from a 1080ti…. It’s night and day different.
Anyone else think the 40xx series pricing is partly set where it is to help clear the 30xx series overstock ?
I'll definitely get one for my white build in my O11 dynamic. GPU on top/exhaust, CPU on side intake and bottom intake. Will look fantastic.
Same
Same too got the evo white version
Oh my god are you actually buying a 4080?? Not tryin to make you sound crazy or anything but I seriously recommend waiting for AMDs lineup. The 4080 has NO VALUE especially compared to the 4090
@@silverback2773 What do you mean by no value? Just look at power to performance. This card is unbeatable in that aspect regardless of price (obviously to a point LUL). 320 watts at 2900+ mhz... That is REALLY good. Also, I like how you recommend things to other people without knowing anything about them. For all we know, this is the kind of person that spends 1100 bucks on a custom keyboard. I may not agree with it but it is not my place to tell them what they can or cant purchase with their own money.
@@silverback2773 well in fact was talking about the model. If there is a white Neptune 4090, I'll consider it.
As for the price, no matter, coming from a Strix 1080ti, it is upgrade time.
32 fps on cyberpunk !! One day we're gonna get there, one day
I saw the white and aluminum immediately though of Colorful, i had the idea of using the white mobo for a build because kinda hard to find White Pcb in the market without paying super high price or it a older version of a Generation.
But i hardly find reviews on the internet and forum most of time you see saying is crap, but is just because of brand name.
Please elaborate further on the ‘ a 240 cooler should have been enough ‘ statement for this 300+Watt GPU, compared to your ‘normal’ 360rad setup for CPUs not even at half that power
Thx
That card is absolutely stunning! Especially for a Hybrid!
It's not a hybrid, it's just an AIO water-cooled GPU.. A hybrid has both water-cooled and a fan, like a lot of EVGA's Seahawk.
Its not a hybrid........ that's the nice thing about this card, the memory is cooled by the water block to.
It does have some stupid fan on it that always fails...
@@FlameH0t Seahawk is MSI. EVGA is Hybrid XC, FTW3, or Kingpin.
Interesting and informative as always! I am surprised how low the scores are for that 6950XT, but I assume that is all stock settings? My budget price Gigabyte RX 6900XT gets higher scores with a little overclock/undervolt. We are all waiting for the 7900 cards before we pull the trigger on AMD or Nvidia but I feel my time with Nvidia has come to end when I could not afford any of the high end 3000 or 4000 series cards this time around.
White radiator makes dust build up more easily visible.
Yeah, you should run it at it's fastest speed if you're a gamer. But if you're recording with a live mic in the room, it's nice to have a quiet mode for that when you're not doing gaming or some other Graphics intense activity.
The strix 4080 at $1549 has sold out in mins.
Wow , no wonder they price them like that. They know ppl will paid it no matter what.
Its amazing how stupid people can be. This just reinforces the company behaviors' for next time.
Jay you should give Steve from GN coverage for the excellent work he's done on the 12V power plug investigations, it's the least you could do
jay doesn't care about facts, only day-one clicks
After seeing the comparisons all I can say is I’m ready for the 7900 XT
Nice card. I'm not an over-clocker but it seems this card could be a high performer in capable hands. Too bad the prices are so high because the products look to be really good.
That 6950xt is looking pretty good for the price!
With the size of the rad on the card. If space isn't a constraint in your case, using a 240 over a 360 doesn't seem logical. A 240mm rad will make an extra hole for air to pass around the rad, nothing else but a 120mm fan will fit there. It might as well be a 360 for that reason.. Smaller form factor cases would benefit from a 240 rather than a 360 but for a larger case it's wasted space
Just a reminder for people in the US… the colorful brand is pretty aggressively priced in Asia with ofcourse no extra import tax since it’s sold in the county
I learned a long time ago, with these AIO cards its much more about having the flexibility of having a silent or air flow restricted PC and still having manageable temps. no matter where you live or the type of case you have and less about actually getting more frames.
The music reminds me of a hotel lobby/bar. I feel like I should have a drink while watching but you haven't been saying "I digress" as much.
A liquid cool aio based card with out having to deal with draining and refilling that comes with a 360 rad and rgb fans.
Normally that alone is another $500 in parts and connectors.
That card is worth the price if you’re looking for a liquid cooled card.
Love the look... Wish AIBs selling in the U.S. would do more adventurous stuff like this. I doubt I'll be able to find this card in the U.S.
I wish i got US component prices which are $100-200 than EU prices
@@godlymonkey haa, what a joke. In Romania 4080 starts at 8700 lei at the store I usually find cheap hardware at. Thats about 1850 USD per the cheapest model. The others go up to 2000. What a joke lol, people think miners are still there just waiting for the gpus to launch. The sad part is that they also sold about 15 out of the 20 I've seen in stock in about 3 hours.
@@alexandruilea915 what is the joke the prices i am talking about are CPU's and other components that arent GPU's the 4090 prices i have seen are between 2000-2600 usd
@@godlymonkey yeah, the 4099's sell between 2400 and 3200 usd for the 360mm aio gigabyte model. And it's out of stock too so someone did buy it.
I really appreciate the car analogies when explaining the technical stuff , it makes the techno garble easier to understand.
This card looks so clean! Colorful is great!
4080 is so chill that the watercooler turns to be only an aesthetical solution for fun. But the fun will end when the pump starts rattling.
exactly that and hearing the coil whine "rattling"
It makes sense that the "card" and shroud is _much_ smaller than the FE and most other variants. There is no "local" cooler, extra long to facilitate airflow passthrough.
Meaning no need to make weird, detrimental compromises when engineers designed the PCB - just a good quality, reasonably dense PCB design and layout developed with watercooling in mind.
I think it's pretty simple. They've overpriced the cards to sell 30 series. Once 30 series is sold out and they took enough 40 series profits at high launch prices, they swing back in with 40 series prices same as AMD and emerge as heros. They will drop the prices. Justs not now.
400$ for a 3070? Not bad, with folks here in Europe paying almost $800 for one.😂
Year and a half ago, I got 3070 for 900€, and i sold it for 1150€ after half year of usage. Then 6900XT from AMD's lottery, which I switched to 3080 Ti.
I just had to replace my AIO for my CPU after 4 years. The radiator was running low on fluid I think and the pump burned out. Only $130 to replace it but what’s your thoughts on longevity of these AIO graphics solutions? Can you refill fluid on these? Once the pump goes, can it be easily replaced? Chucking a $1500 graphics card would be a bummer….
what aio did you have?
"only 130" for something that only worked 4 years.
Reason number 50 why not to buy an aio if a noctua cooler does the same job for like 14 years
always funny to me how little extra performance custom cards get compared to the reference/founder model. At this point there's no reason to favor one brand over another for these already overpriced cards.
Exactly what nvidia wants and why evga left. They used aibs to build for years just to give it to them raw in the end. 😂
A gift idea? Cruise Ship Simulator, flight attendants may like it more than that Spotified Euro Charts Tracking...
I’m so glad I bought a 3070 at below msrp when I did. The card performs great and was a welcomed improvement over my tired old 1070. And I saved so much more money holding out to just before 40 series release.
How much did you pay? I’m looking at used 3070s and they’re $350-$500
So when do u think GPU will be efficient again using lower than 200 watt? 3070 220watt 2070 175w. Im not gonna use earth killing GPUs.
Nah. If you bought a 3070 at launch, even with scalper prices you would have made back the card and probably your entire system after 2 years of mining. My 3080 paid for itself and my entire setup.
@@fynkozari9271 “earth killing”? Do you have a gas car? If so then I’m sure that does more damage to the earth than years of running a fully electrically powered gaming graphics card. Lol
I just picked up a 3070 for 375 a few weeks ago, the improvement over my 2060 was huge. Right in the same boat with you.
Stats of the 4080 Sale in Germany:
FE: nearly 3 Minutes, before sold out (1469€ / $1.525,87)
Every other brand card: around 23 minutes (1700€ / $1.765,80)
PS: I was too slow for FE and didn't want to pay 1700+ :c
even FE pricing is insane
@@sleepyelk5955 sadly true
Man it is a glorious card to look at! Wow it is stunning. I would ask it out to dinner even! lol
great video as always Jay , can you OC this GPU as well to see how far we can get ?
+1
I appreciate Jay & company featuring the new Nvidia cards as they arrive. I'm still hoping to see one arrive which will warrant my upgrade money.
That whole BIOS button/switch thing? I would assume is some nVidia gimmick, where they require a card to have their "standard" bios for one reason or other. Maybe for it to auto-switch to it in case of emergency(a safe mode of sorts). Maybe? Or it's just to fit all the specs(power draw limits and such). And for enthusiasts there's that boost switch so they can fiddle a bit and go over that 320W etc.
Jay seemed like he was a little on edge today. Hope all is good. I like Jay being on edge a little, good video.
Just have to say thank you ! My puppy was having a mad hour, I put your video on and she was captivated 😂
STILL WAITING FOR RDNA 3. If AMD Delivers Nvidia will drop those prices to the earth level.
Nvidia won’t drop prices until they can clear the 3xxx series stock
A cheap 4080 would compete with 3xxx and that’s what they don’t want right now
Based on rasterization performance here I feel amd did smart to target the 4080 as a competitor for the 7900xtx with a better price point.
One thing I love about the States, you barley ever have to pay customs for anything. Unlike Canada, you have to pay customs and import fees on basically everything....
turbo buttons are just for fun jay! and that is ok!
The Fan Cabling in the sleeving is nice . .
Untill one of those Fans craps the bed . .
Re: Jay's comment near the end of the video-😆😆😆 Jay, for the record I paid, with tax, (new) close to $700 USD for my Asus RTX 3070 Tuf Gaming OC....well, that was a few months ago. Anyway, informative review. Thanks as always!
This as a 4090 would have fit perfectly into my new pc, which has a white be quiet 802 and a white icue 150i water cpu cooler, sadly it wasn't available at the time
Was this in the AiB contract? DON'T BUILD CUSTOM 4080 COOLERS! I'd choose 2,5 slots and 8 degrees more over a 3,5 slot card any day. 👀
when are we going to talk about those setups jayzowcents has there. setup where the benchmark happens, setup where he just talks to the camera. those some nice setups man.
I long for the days that a computer was just that a computer without all the carnival lights blinking and lighting up the room for no reason other than that some people seem to think that blinking multi colored lights are pretty.
I would love to see such cards without the light show which actually are available.
will look nice in my existing white build. can't wait :)
I would love to see you block off 1 fan of the radiator to simulate a 240mm (I know it’s not exact, but no airflow over 1/3 should get it CLOSE enough to approximate a 240mm) Would love to see if the 360mm was necessary for those extra boost bins.
They probably are simply using the same radiator for the 4080 & 4090, might even save them money by doing so
Can't do this. Even taking off 1 fan you still have extra rad space for cooling. No where close to a 240 cooling comparison.
@@GlennsHardWired That’s why I said block off that area. As in- cover it up.
I would still buy one of these over a hybrid card that has a blower and liquid cooler which is silly, the 360mm aio is more important then you would think, i am using a 240 evga hybrid and hate that they did not sell a 360 that wasnt kingpin , 240 in an 011dynamic looks like dogcrap
You should search up the race-scene from Flåklypa Grand Prix (a norwegian stopmotion movie from 1975 (been retouched for modern times)). At one point he (the main character) pushes the pedal through the floor and actually gain speed.
I mean, if Jay doesn't want it I'll take it...
Phil: I like this new music during the test results.
Thank you for including gears 5 in the game benchmarks!
As soon as I heard the name of this card, the Neptuneman song popped into my brain. Nobody boasted like that guy. No card boasts like this one.
LMAO 🤣 .. All the RTX 4080's were SOLD OUT before this video went live!
RIP my peasant 2080 ti 😥😥
Man...why move to liquid cooling for like 3-4% more performance? Based on thermals everyone presented that's an easy OC on the Founders 4080.
I never worry about colour schemes but RGB looks really good through the vents in my window-less cases.
This is such a cute GPU!! The price is gonna be a lot less cute tho....
Water makes a lot of sense for some of the new cards: I dunno if it makes as much sense for the 4080 though-- by all accounts the FE's 4090 air cooler keeps things well under control when applied to the cut-down card. I don't think I'd pay a premium for an AIO cooled 4080-- if I had an air-cooled PC I'd just buy an air-cooled card, and if I had a custom loop I'd buy a normal 4080 and add a waterblock.
Top mounted pipes... The best card is the Gigabyte Waterforce pipes are side mounted and provide a much cleaner look.
In an alternate world, graphic card manufacturers allow 3rd parties to modify the design and add more rendering cores, more ram, more everything. One could only dream
If I'm not mistaken, "What's your game" is a Galax slogan and not of Colorful igame.
I'm laughing my ass off so hard at the RTX 4080 launch. Every UK retail store has multiple models in stock right now and they've been on sale for over half an hour. This is a massive difference from the 4090 launch where every single card was sold out within minutes. People bought the 4090 at those high prices because they knew they'd be getting the fastest card on the market. With the 4080 however, most retailers are trying to sell them at £1400-1650 and nobody is buying. Thank goodness! People are finally realising Nvidia needs a kick in the pants. And if AMD's 7900 XTX beats the 4080, nvidia will be forced to drop the 4080 to £999 or below. I'm glad people are voting with their wallets. Nobody should be paying £1200-1650 for a non-flagship card.
Even if they are "forced" too, they won't drop price.
@@kilowatt-son if they don't drop price they won't sell any 4080's. And if they don't sell any 4080's they'll miss out on hitting their sales targets and all their beloved investors will sell their shares, resulting in Nvidia's networth dropping. And that is something they definitely will not allow. Considering it costs around for nvidia $300 to manufacture a 4080 card, i'd say they'd still be making decent margin even if they dropped the price to around $800.
Pretty hilarious that this lesser known brand makes such a fantastic cooler, while MSI uses a 240mm rad on the higher ter and much more power hungry 4090. Tbh though, I hate the fact that you cannot control the pump independently of the fans.
Why does everyone forget the PCIe power from the motherboard? The card can pull 450W from the connector and 75W from the PCIe.
Curious to see if Jay can get his hands on a 4090 HOF, from what I read it pulls 1000w
One thing they need to keep going with is the awesome slogans.
goes up videos every day to the channel
thanks for review jay i want a card that has that overkill cooler on it in the future. it gets 30 ambient here sometimes even 35 so i want my gpu to remain calm and continue gaming
I’m patiently waiting for the Noctua edition. I really love mine.
That $400 customs fee had absolutely no effect on this review. I have some ocean front property in Arizona I'd like to sell you.
Honestly if I had the money I'd build an all AIO system. I'd want a case with a 360 Fan intake on the side so that both the CPU and GPU AIO are pulling in air and not being blasted by hot air on the top.
I'd like to see how an AIO build would perform.
I think the difference between 360mm and 280mm radiators is overplayed. 360mm rad has an area of 0.136 sqm and 280mm - 0.123, that's only 10% of difference.
Hi JayzTwoCents, I was wondering if you could make a video about your go to brands for the different parts you prefer to use & why, moving foward, especially now that EVGA is out of the GPU market, witch brand will you turn to now? Thank for following up, love your channel, always looking foward to it, have a great day you & your team, cheers !
GPUS’s have officially gone from “lol that’s a chonkster of a card” to comically oversized toddler versions that barley fit into a case.
4080 Is Not Necessarily Needed With The Price Protection
Those EVGA 1080Ti's and 2080TI AIO Cards had impressive cooling.
I still am using an EVGA 1080ti Ftw3 Hybrid in one of my PCs, honestly my favorite card of all time.
But they also were of terrible quality. Check the evga forums for proof .
@@GlennsHardWired I have never had an issue with it, and I am always willing to risk it with EVGA because their customer service. I've had Asus before and while nice, I had to RMA it and it was a nightmare. EVGA has always been a breeze for me to do anything, and I love the stepup program.
That white and blue would go great with the ASUS Z590 Gundam Edition motherboard.
This is the kind of build quality that should be standard on, you know, a card so expensive you can buy a decent used car.
The build quality on the 4000 series I've seen so far is completely inexcusable for a card that costs so much.
Can't wait till you guys can actually test something worth your while in relation to putting the cooling to the test, something like the Galax HOF card once it finishes all it's testing with the insane overclockers and releases to retail.
Those fan blades would look great blue matching the blue sticker
I don't think you're ever actually prolonging the life of the silicon by underpowering it anyway, so what's the point of turning it down past it's most efficient?
Jayz actually do the math on the surface of a 360 Rad vs 280 rad. they are not that different from oneanother. the 360 Rad has only 10% more surface compared to a 280 rad. If I did not screw up massivly ^^
Your math checks out bro (y)
and I'm wondering if 120mm fans x 3 is maybe less efficient than 140mm x 2 🙂
@@b1lleman thats a good question. I think that heavily depends on what fans you use and what fin density the rad is. If you would use the same fan model just 120 and 140 mm and use the equivalent 280 and 360 rad yeah what would be better ... I think in the end they will perform about the same and you take the rad depending on the fit in your case.
I "love" the slogans. They usually sound like English is their second language and it gives me a chuckle
Biggest mistake is where the tubing is, something that Aorus has actually done right since the 30 series waterforce - tubing on the side.
You guys have the easiest to consume graph comparisons when dealing with benchmarks.
Yeah they're very easy to read even at a glance. I love GamersNexus' reviews, his dedication where he covers essentially everything there is to cover in his reviews is second to none, but I find his graphs quite messy to read. I do love his blue "progress bars" down the sides of the graph screens though, so you know when it's about to switch to the next graph.
I like running my video cards in a "Power saving mode." when not gaming where I undervolt them ect.