The Biggest osu! Cheating Scandal
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- Опубликовано: 26 май 2024
- What was anticipated to be one of the most exciting osu! matches of the year quickly turned south, when a huge accusation against one of the match contestants dropped on twitter. In the early hours before the highly anticipated match would commence, a top player (badeu) would post a tweet, outlining an investigation that they and two other top players (Zylice and GRANDMASTER/na1g0) took part in. It questioned the legitimacy of one of the most celebrated players in recent time (worst hr player), and made three core points to substantiate their claims. If these claims were true, it would have big implications for the state of the game.
This is "The Biggest osu! Cheating Scandal"
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What goes around comes around, love you all
Guys i think zylice found some maple syrup in his refrigerator
wrong maple syrup
Guys i think zylice found some maple syrup in his refrigerator
filipino maple syrup
hes canadian after all
Filipino maple
I know for a fact you were giggling and kicking your feet when you saw zylice get exposed lol
for real man how the tables have turned
got me laughing. just what i was thinking lmao
real lol
real
I got a boner from it
They really said 4 years ago "This dude is cheating, lets find proof"
Then 4 years later made up proof
ikr it's stupid
It's the equivalent of having an exam for next week yet studying the night before
@@imsaturncat no seriously lmfaoo
you forgot to mention that their biggest proof got debunked in less than two hours by an osu! player recreating the same settings as worst hr player, replicating the exact same cursor behavior, and posting it to youtube.
add insult to the injury: it was some guy with 3 subs lmao
thank you for mentioning that he was an osu! player as that would have never crossed my mind
i talk abt it, i js didnt mention 2 hours.
@@the8bitclicker_193Lmfao
if you spend 4 YEARS only to get that shitty cursor teleport google docs you need to get help
Yeah
my friend got that random cursor teleporting to the left of the screen after he got a new tablet and he is only using a laptop screen and he's 30k
im curious why they are so dedicated at this.... i mean 4 years? why man why? ur not even osu staff right
Only thing missing is a Zylice Distrack......
someone made it already
check out spazza's one lmao
This reminds me, can someone link the ome voiced by mrekk?
@@mollysandera991ruclips.net/video/rFXq4ANvHUw/видео.htmlsi=DXVVzp7cnWK02MpN
real ok ima drop one
>get destroyed by a guy in tournament
>install cheats to prove that said guy is cheating
>get an osu report post on you for having cheats installed
he played himself
we getting a "the beauty of the osu! community" pt. 2 with this one 🔥🔥🔥
this is why im part of the osudroid community, cant have drama if theres no active players
osudroiders lurk together 🫳🫲
@@rainingforever- 🤝
we live peacefully because almost nothing major happens lol
@@SarpErsoy yes haha
🤝
badeu ended up getting sniped on 12 #1s in 8 hours edit: nvm forum is on another snipe grind, just got 3 more and probably will continue sniping more XD
13
This makes me happy
deserved
14 now
@@koiasana i cant count
didnt zylice:
1. rent an e girl
2. trying to make osu content based on the e girl
3. without consent
4. lied about it when confronted if hes recording her or not
5. big twitter thread
6. acts like nothing happened the next day
??? im probably thinking of another player, but iirc was zylice(so dont take my words on this 100%)
nah u right LMAO
it was zylice
i made a lot of typo lmfao(fixed)
huh ??
@@Velolyn www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/h9cjck/i_was_recorded_without_my_knowledge_by_zylice_on/
I remember that zylice secretly streamed, and made fun of a girl in a vc without her knowledge. Denying he was recording/streaming when she asked him.
Guess the guy is still a weirdo
No way AryN was always right about Zylice ... is he the chosen one?
aryn getting his revenge
lmaoooooooo
deserved
sry i'm out of the loop, can anyone explain the aryn zylice thing pls ?
@@CXLP aryn posted video "osu is a waste of time", to which Zylice responded with his own short clip. AryN responded with "you only post this bc you made it, avg player will not". Then Zylice posted (now deleted?) video named sth like "most wholesome osu community moments", and a LOT of people sided with Zylice.
@@thatavocado_boi thank you for taking the time to answer sir :D
aryn revenge arc
6:17 Zylice doesnt feel ashamed of saying continue to livestream his entire career after ruining someone's career??? He doesnt deserve to have this osu thing career after all these bs
i find it hilarious that “Not Like Us” was playing in the background when you were exposing Zylice for being a hypocrite. great vid 👏🏼
i really hope zylice get the repercussion he deserved
something i just noticed, zylice never tagged forum in his twitter post. talk about foreshadowing LMAO what a pos
Which twitter post?
cuz forum's twitter was deactivated and zylice didn't know about the burner one
Good news: Forum did NOT cheat on his wife and is NOT the father
Good news: Forum is the wife 😮😮😮
Bro did 4 years of research only to backpedal IMMEDIATELY, research my a$$, its jealousy and greed. Zylice jumping on the wagon is a sad attempt at content farming and if there is a proof of him buying the cheats, ban him, dont care if he used or not, he is literally supporting the cheat devs. We cant just allow them to apologize for trying to ruin someones "career", people WILL abuse that. Ban them ALL.
jealousy and greed, yeah we can't let people abuse their power like this. I say get him banned!
Lmao the “rabbit hole” part had me dying
xd
As a once caught cheater, I 100% believe that this player Zylice should be banned for cheating offline as it not only supports the makers of the cheats, but also the way he used them is just a bitch way.
cheating offline is actually have no harm unless hes cheating in online
@@uruedosudroid It does tho. You pay for subscription that the makers of the cheat earn money from for wider advertising and longer-term support. Why would you just not play relax on a private server? Why must you buy a cheating software it's just as harmful as cheating online
@@dotnetphonk its peppy's job to actually mess with this, i didnt said "people **should** buy cheating software"
you can actually go search "osu timewarp" and find ton of cheats for "free"(you pay with your privacy smh)
i think you understood what i tried to meant when i wrote the first comment
@@uruedosudroidi got banned nearly 2 years ago for cheats that I had in my pc and I didn’t use them xd
Bro pulled out the Not Like Us instrumental just to shit on Zylice ☠️
Zylice: spreading positivity in osu community video
And they said that video is gone private too.
laughing at all NAT or GMT's that took down all Filipino Maple maps, including mine, imagine caring more about a beatmap than a group of players witch hunting xdd, good video !
yeah they're cringe, thanks!
It's Zylover...
thank god
The only time "he's improving too quickly" would work is if a player got 10% on a map and then got 100% with hr and double time right after
bruh im tweaking i thought u were talking about worst hr player and suddenly someone called forum came out. i forgot worst hr player was forum
tbh Zylice should probably private his accounts and possibly not stream anymore because after pulling that stunt i couldn't imagine the amount of backlash he'd get from the community. it just sucks cuz he seemed like a cool guy that just got roped into an ugly situation. hopefully he will recover from this.
nah fuck that guy, very quick to ruin someone's career (trying to get worst hr player banned), he should get no sympathy.
He was never a good guy, always a crybaby asshole acting like hes a wholesome chungus but hes a superficial trash
@@arynosutrue and real, guy's a PoS through and through, fake ass posturing shithead trying to garner attention to further his career, mid ahh content creator, together with his also fake asf internet friends like mr kieg. I really am praying together with you on their entire group fallout and downfall ngl
fuck him lmao, i hope he don't recover from all this.
not like us playing during the zylice sentence this man is a special grade HATER
No matter when you read this
Zylies has never FCd Cold Green Eyes.
nah aryn going on his revenge arc now
im surprised zylice was a part of this, i remember being in his stream a year ago or so and he said something about him knowing people who hacusate worst hr player but he at the time was acting like he def wasn't agreeing 💀
YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG!!!!
This pretty sums up the video by the most overused iconic quote "they hated Aryn because he spoke the truth"
Semi-old player who was active 2014-2018 here.
I am glad that this community has long moved past its era where cheating accusations were thrown around like it's candy and that people generally take this kida stuff more seriously now. I am also glad that people are generally more relaxed and don't try to witch hunt players, desparately combing for cheaters anymore. I for one remember a slightly clickbaity video a few years back called "The biggest problem in osu", and its thesis was essentially "it's the cheaters and people just ignore them". Super cringy stuff, seeing as I believe this was either during or just after the era I am referring to, and that you hinted at in the video.
I am of the opinion that cheating accusations need to be taken very seriously, and any false ones need to be debunked ASAP. I also do believe that the ones making ultimately false accusations need to be called out and take accountability. This however, is where my contention with this video starts.
Holding people accountable is very important, but much like cheating evidence, you also need to be very careful with this kind of stuff. I believe that the way this video tries to hold the accusers to account is very careless and much more vindictive than it really needs to be. The way that the 2nd half of the video plays out really feels more like a hit piece than a documentation of events. Do the investigators deserve to be criticized? Yes. Do they deserve to have this incident held over their heads for the rest of their lives? Well, if they already learned their lesson, then no. This video actually does document some evidence of them learning their lessons. You may not like their way of wording their apologies, but as far as I can tell, they know they screwed up. Ultimately, this is also a conflict between worst hr player and them, not the community at large. The only one who really deserves an apology is worst hr player, not the community. As such, it is not up to the community or content creators to keep any of this conflict going. This only leads to more shitflinging and public drama, which will hurt the mental health of the investigators further, a punishment that I do not believe fits the crime.
It even goes as far as making some seriously outrageous and harmful claims. At 7:38 you say you believe that the three investigators "purposely put [the report] out in order to ruin [worst hr player]'s mental in preparation for the grand finals". This claim was not substantiated much, if at all. Much like how you need high-quality evidence to conclude someone is cheating, this claim of malice on the part of the investigators also needs high-quality evidence, which much like in the investigation, is very lacking in this case. Why should I take your word on it?
My interpretation of the whole situation is closer to a cautionary tale than anything else. I believe the investigators were genuinely suspicious of worst hr player's scores, and looked into them for weird details as such. They may have found weird details in his scores and added them to the evidence pile, but forgotten to check for if any of it was high-quality or if they had other explanations. From there it may have simply snowballed, and as fallable humans, they may have lost their sense of critical thinking, letting emotions and social pressure take hold. In regards to this video, Hanlon's and Occam's razors apply. You mention a discord server. Was their original intent to destroy worst hr player through this server and were celebrating his downfall because they thought they would get away with falsely accusing someone of cheating? Or is it more likely that they just made a discord server to compile evidence and it accidentally became an echo chamber over time? Did they really accuse worst hr player of cheating to ruin his career? Or did they, once again, genuinely believe they had high quality evidence and that they had come to the conclusion beyond reasonable doubt?
Drama content is very fun and the strongest human emotion that there is is rage. It is also fun to see people experience karma. There is no denying this. What you really should be careful about is letting "exposing" someone get to your head. You should be careful about what unintentional harm you yourself may be causing. The community does not need to continue any dogpiling on anyone. Both parties in the conflict and the community around it need to heal and move forward.
I will end this essay with something I told someone I suspected of cheating Touhou scores recently. I later cleared this person of any cheating, because I could not conclude beyond reasonable doubt they cheated:
"I do not care to expose anyone. I care only about the cold hard facts.
"exposing" someone is not very far away from cancelling someone. cancel culture is a bad thing and I wish to avoid this as best I can.
if any of this leads to even the slightest dogpile, then I have fundamentally failed.
you have a fundamental right to explain yourself."
Gyat my man wrote a thesis I ain’t readin all that
that cursor bug happened to me when i accidentaly forgot that 2 hdmi cables were connected to my pc even though i had only 1 monitor, it took me a month to realize what it is
zylice is a clown fr
i didnt expect that “rabbit hole” part turned to be an osu score
Once you open badeu's profile you see 27 'lost first place' in span of 4 days 🤣
Do any of y'all know what the background music that was playing at 6:00 is called?
This whole thing is stupid chronically online osu players will always amaze me
Bro this is like the spaceuk exposal
completely deserved, all bad people get outed eventually, hopefully this can clear up your reputation a little bit aswell, great vid as always
the cursor thing happens to me it happens when u take ur pen out of ur area then when you put it back it in glitches out a bit
my brother in christ what is that transition at 0:03
Mf used a powerpoint transition😭
hey listen it's more effort than the other osu youtubers idc
Mfer tried allow it lmaoooo
not like us instrumental on background is wild
wow actually good AryN video wtf, he be making a comeback with this one?!?!?
Don't know if u saw the osugame reddit but Mrekk actually got silenced for releasing Fillipino Maple. Wow 😂😭
Bro put Kendrick music in the background… You must really be happy about that Zylice shit 😂
What if forum is actually cookiezi and it is fia situation
you just gotta feel bad for forum, wish him the best and hopefully he continues to enjoy the game despite this.
to think that top players get this privileged status and not receiving punishments for things a "low rank" / casual would receive just baffles me. staff has always and will always be corrupt, no matter what. ggwp ig?
Yeah we got to make a point to the staff, shit is too corrupt nowadays. Maybe one day they'll change.
I feel like that would be case with all top players in any game. They have a much bigger impact on the game depending on what happens to them, so they really have to hesitate making drastic actions.
But yeah he should get banned tbh. He was advertising cheats and had a history with cheats.
AryN out with yet another banger he just can’t miss
osu try not to have drama impossible challenge
my goat aryn on top never doubted you for a second
btw i JUST recreated the off screen cursor weird ass bug by just... dragging my pen outside my tablet......... then back in.......
meet the maples
How did anyone think that document was unironically good proof 💀
skill spikes can easily be explained by graduating, being between jobs, a breakup, anything that suddenly gives you more hours to practice. not an osu! player but didn't succeed in my game of choice until i got sober. are players going to have to disclose their entire personal lives to stop getting hassled lol
I hate when i see someone get jealous over something like skill. Like, it's my entire reason why I am as good as I am. I love watching people better than me because it really motivates me to be greater than them.
how much do you wanna bet support still doesn't do anything
$2
bro that's so pathetic he was on some bullshit case for 4 years trynna find proof for someone cheating but just ended up making shit up, 4 YEARS MAN seriously get a life😭
don't wanna sound evil, but i'm glad you got a chance to have sorta revenge on zylice
your "osu is a waste of time" video is greatly misunderstood, but also poorly written, most people didnt understand that it was (for the most part) an exaggeration. there was a lot of truth in it, but also unnecessary takes that contradict what you said in the middle of the video. It is quite hard to know if those takes were supposed to be taken seriously or not, but that's the thing, i tried to understand the video, and i understood that the ending of the video is what's supposed to be taken seriously.
the way most of those top players got so butthurt about the video just shows what they're like, they didn't try to understand it, especially zylice.
most of the top players today are very young, you can expect them to not be that smart, or to get mad at pointless things, or have an astronomical ego.
history repeats itself once again. i havent been around in the community for much but i remember the whitecat cheating thing, mathi and mrekk and now forum, it was only a matter of time before this happened again, and it will keep happening until the end of time.
this was more than expected
Bad time having Badeu and Forum as your favorite players
I wish you added merami's tweets about the situation they were bangers
how embarrassing for these guys, great video tho, feels good to be on your side again aryn
Man that last line was deep
Not even a cheating scandal.
And even if that would be so - it wouldn't be the biggest by a longshot.
damn i thought jay would also get exposed for all the shit he did behind the scenes in the degens group.
bro the final line made me die💀💀
right i ain’t been in the community very long but throughout most of the other games i’ve played i don’t think i’ve seen something as disgusting and scandalous as this some ppl need to grow tf up
finally got his revenge lmao
Their "pride" got hurt when someone better appeared. I'm dissapointed, very dissapointed.
Another certified AryN banger 🔥🔥🔥
Ok about the drama stuff. However, I think the most interesting part is about, what ui and program is used to replay thing with that UI? 12:23
I'm not part of the osu community or anything but I cant pass up on a good cheater exposal video
no one cheated tho
people who are the loudest about their morals often have the worst actions when given the chance
3 AM emotional rollercoaster, watch this shit happen again next year
There are maps that I have had a 20 miss count improvement in a couple months, does that mean I am cheating?
They not like us
i don’t play osu whatsoever, but my absolute best guess is the cursor bug coming from the pad he’s using to play 🤷♂️
the only way zylice gets banned is if he uses it on bancho cause maple is detected rn
The fact that people are just realising that people who don't go outside are toxic is laughable to me. I remember being Top 50k back in 2016 (nothing impressive I know, I let the game go and am a 6 digit now) and people being toxic was all over the place. Peppy and osu! mods are pretty toxic too, if not the worst perpetuators.
Trying to get into osu! again and my gosh it just seems not worth it. Thanks for reminding me why I left.
I just watched one of zylice’s videos yesterday bruh
the fact that top players have such huge egos they will pray on other players downfall this much just to get slapped with a reality check is both hilarious and sad, man osu community is actually so toxic when things like these happens
why they mad that worst hr is just better than them?
I suspect badeu wants the downfall of worst hr player since his hd fc of der wald (sniping badeu nomod fc with better acc)
The guy going on about how much respect he had for the community and how offended he was at you shitting on it shat on the community by cheating
What a joke
What the Skibidi rizz brain rot report
I don't know if this is too late or not but
about "suspicious cursor movement" I can do it as well by using in game sensitivity.
dude. im so happy, u finaly spoke out for aimbotcone and zilice. just a mental revenge after "osu is a waste of time".
maple syrup drama going crazy
"top players are some of the most egotistical people" while playing an enri clip is top tier hating 😭
well its true xd
@@arynosu ik, im banned in his chat for saying he had a fragile ego🤣🤣🤣
@@stinkypoo1597 common enri L
"Fuck this guy is too good, how about we spend 4 years to compile some flimsy evidence that was probably made in 37 seconds and upload that to the public. Seems like a good idea."
I think people are misunderstanding the whole 4 years thing, they said in the document that GRANDMASTER tipped them something dating 4 years back that led them down a "deep rabbit hole" so I doubt these idiots spent more than like 12 minutes on the whole document, no wonder it got debunked in like two hours.
Off topic from the video, but i watched like 50% through originally then thought
"Wait, haven't i heard this script before?"
Only to realize that i watched this video YESTERDAY
i am the only one who thinks that being called a cheater would be the best feeling, best compliment, i have no idea why his mental got fucked up, only if he thinks that the friends who played in tourneys in the past accused him for cheating, beside that if i would get called a cheater and had an entire discord made to exterminate me while i know im not cheating then i would be happy and laugh my ass off, that's the best "ur so good at the game" line