The Dark Psychology of Jamie from Top Boy
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[Chapters]
00:00 - Prologue
01:45 - Chapter 1
07:20 - Chapter 2
15:16 - Chapter 3
21:11 - Chapter 4
25:35 - Chapter 5
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The way Jamie tells off Stefan's teacher has always been one of my favourite scenes. It showcases how he’s able to demonstrate dominance, not from aggression, but from intellect which comes off as traits of a leader, similar to Dushane.
And also body language, he positioned himself slightly aggressively as he was talking to the teacher and also his emphasis on certain words
That scene was cringey af, if he was lecturing a real trained teacher on how to do their jobs they’d just tell him to stfu
@@Luke43219 only brave ones like you
@@Luke43219 U some idiot
It didn’t really make sense to me tbh. There was always the chance that Stefan wasn’t good at that class and Jamie was just being ignorant. That’s how I interpreted it
jamie tovell is probably the first drug dealer character you've done on this channel that doesn't really fall into a sociopathic or psychotic persona.
He killed his day 1 who he criec on his shoulders he def a sociopath
@@dastorm15 it was either jamie or his friend.
1. he didnt wanna die
2. he didnt wanna let his fam alone
And thats why he died so early. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain
@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz9840 interesting, i never thought about it like that
@@dastorm15 he didn't have much of a choice though tbh
“You know the last person that said that to me. I’d tell you, except I can’t pronounce them Turkish names” was the hardest most savage line Jamie ever said 🤧
facts
word it was too cold
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No doubt. I just hated how soft he was with sully in his face.
@@jaredsanders4367 in season 4? I think he felt like he kinda had to b subservient towards Dushane/Sully because of what Dushane did to get him outta jail. Kinda had no choice but to stick it out under their leadership until something changed that made him top boy again
I don’t think he’s evil, he’s just a product of his environment
Weak argument i think, plenty of law-abiding citizens who grow up in these environments and choose to do good rather than flood the streets with heroin and gun violence; murdering anyone who stands in their way. Jamie had a lot more to him than many straight up killers but this guy was a sociopath.
Being a product of your environment holds no bearing when there’s right and wrong
In other word, he is evil
Dudes evil
It's not the product of your environment, but the product of your own decisions.
When Sully killed Jamie I think that was truly the most emotion I’ve ever felt from watching a Netflix series. Man what a wild ride it was up to that point it really hurt to see that happen. Also it was so conflicting because Sully was the character that I couldn’t help but feel sympathy for more than anyone in the series.
It felt pointless af didnt make sense to me
@@dailydoseoftuc11he reaped what he sowed
@@dailydoseoftuc11 it wasn’t pointless it made complete sense, Sully is a Serious member and Jamie tried a ting. He shoulda known better ski ski
@@nateniaz7828 yeah in reality that makes sense but for the movie or show universe i just didn't understand it
@@dailydoseoftuc11 makes it even better tbf, I understand why ppl have resentment towards the makers of the show for it coz ppl get attached to characters but that’s the street/drug game life for y
michael ward was genuinely incredible in this role. He made Jamie one of the best and deepest characters I have ever seen in a TV show.
I literally fell in love with Jamie as a character in the series. Seeing him being the oldest brother and pushing his younger brothers to excel in school, keep a tidy home, and keep the memory of their dead parents alive while trying his best to be as caring and nurturing as possible touched something very deep and vulnerable for me. Even when he started to become more and more violent, I understood that he did not see any other option for himself, and without excusing any of his behaviour, I was still rooting for him until his untimely end.
One of the most moving fictional characters I’ve ever encountered in a series. Jamie’s and Atts’ death broke my heart.
Me sad as fuck when Jamie die. I also lost my older brother when I was 18. He was 27 years old. Think about him everyday
same feeling
The coffee shop was like Switzerland. Everyone comes there to politic and address issues. One of my favorite minor details in the show.
cant remember if this is the correct name, but just like Rick's Cafe in Casablanca, Morocco
Bear in mind as well, Jamie went out of his way to go hospital to visit Tilly, avenges her hospitalization by killing Cam and the watch that was given to the Moroccan boy was bought from Tilly. Jamie is probably the most well rounded character in the TopBoy series before Sully.
No he didn't lol go watch the series again
Yes he did you go watch the series
Jamie playing with those little boys is one of the most heartfelt positive moments in my book for jamie
This was an iconic character, TOP BOY was wrong for killing him off
If the next season goes like I think it will with Dushane and Sully going to war with each other it’s good they did kill him
I think it destroyed things for the future.
Dushane and Sully are old, and Jamie was a great character, for the future seasons also
@@Chillvgaming true but it seems like they wanted to wrap the story up nicely in the next season rather than risk continuing and having it get devalued in the future
I think it was a risky choice, my prediction is the younger brother Stephan is going to be out for revenge against Sully or at the very least get into that lifestyle. Since he witnessed his brother shot dead right infront of him and looked the killer in his eyes. So I think, Steph is going to follow a story line of trauma,mental issues and revenge in the next story line. All because of Jamie’s death
Right??
I felt really sorry for Steph and Aaron loosing Jamie but the person I felt most for in Top Boy S1 & 2 was Atts mum 😥
Same, that was TERRIBLE. I might never get over it. Sooooo tragic.
At least she didnt get gunned down like a damn dog in tge street....
I thought Kit was gonna do her so horrible!
I was so mad at Ats for the door he opened.
@@erikaenchanteits normal in life lol I know way more tragic stories from people in my life, people die for no reason and atts didn’t deserve to go but he made his bed. His mom should’ve never went out there to begin with tbh
Losing*
Atts mom bro she ain’t deserve any a that
Your storytelling skills are very good. Had me locked in the whole 33 minutes 🔥
Even got the goat to show love crazyy
He’s literally retelling a story someone else wrote…
agreed but those 8 seconds reallyyyyyy took a toll on me
@@Mr.Lubbox-Lobsterlegz1 he’s analysing it you muppet
Freemason number.
As someone who usually thinks tv shows are entirely too predictable. Jamie's death was the first time a tv show shocked me in YEARS. Such a great & interesting character, wish he got more time but Sully's motives were justified and true to his character as well. Great Show. Great RUclips Channel As Well Sir 👏🏽
You gotta know it was bound to happen....Sully wasn't gonna let what he found in Morocco slide. The streets always catch up if you've been involved with pharmaceutical no matter how glamorous it seems at first.
I honestly was stunned when he was done in. I couldn’t believe his character was killed off and I wasn’t expecting it.
@@Advic77nah bro it was shocking asf, especially it always seemed Jamie and deshaun were the main characters and everyone else’s story just added towards theirs
@@Advic77he didn't find anything in marroco. There wasn't just enough info for him to kill Jamie bc if there were, he was going to kill him in Morroco and that would have even been more convenient. He just killed Jamie bc he a snake and he knew he wanted to step in in power and was not going to work with Jamie bc of his grudges
You have to do Tommy from Power he has so many layer after his best friend James dies he becomes so much smarter and calmer in how he carrys himself in Power Book 4
Facts 💯
Tommy is a nut, however very normal.
Gotta do Tony Soprano as well he could make a 2 hour video of him minimum easily
Yessss
He literally did it for his family. Unlike Dushane and Sully who did it for the thrill and power. His parents died when he was 18, and he felt he had to step up and take care of his bros so that they would have a better and easier life than him which is why he chose the path he did.
He lives in a totally subsidised flat with probably ample benefits. With a bit of effort any college would give a scholarship to him and his bros. Literally life on easy mode yet sinks to gangland for status
@@thegoldenthread-greatstori6795ample benefits? Wtf are you smoking?😂
@@thegoldenthread-greatstori6795you’re tweakin
@@thegoldenthread-greatstori6795Privileged piece of 💩
Jamie=Treaty and snitch
One of the best portrayals of an African family on tv. I also got two brothers and their dynamic hits so close to home. I have mad respect for these writers.
They're jamaican my g
@@sikkamorre9224 where do jamaicans come from?
@@goddusopp542 yh ik there frm africa originally but jamaican culture is it's own culture now similar to african but not aswell genna
@@goddusopp542 when u say african family u think like west african Nigerians n all them things dere not jamaica
@@goddusopp542what kind of stupid question is this? It’s like seeing a black American or Afro Brazilian family on tv and going “aFricAn FamIly”
Jamie was ruthless and willing to do whatever it takes to achieve his goals, even if it means harming others. However, he also has moments of vulnerability and shows genuine care for those close to him, potentially the best becomes worst when corrupted
Tbh I think this is a perfect way to summarise him and his aspects
He never was a best he always was a killer, power hungry and greedy monster..
Would of been a CEO if his environment growing up was more affluent, but he made lemonade from the lemons and you can’t hate on that
DO FRANKLIN SAINT RN
This isn’t unique to him though, this trait is seen in sully and dushane
Jamie is the perfect example of “you live by the gun you die by the gun”
Sully's A Better Example.
LMFAO NOOO LIE ON THAT ONE
@@VillanoVillcaLopez
Jamie did what he had to do. He is a killer but he is not a sociopath.
But he didn't HAVE to do anything
@@rumplestiltskin4245 he was 18. His parents died and he had to make money fast in order to provide for everyone’s needs.
@@blackbatman3152 if you think drug dealers do that only to eat you are naive as hell..they are greedy as hell and want the lavish lifestyle.
@Joshmar Morales yeah look how that worked out, he should of stayed at home
He was built for the game, he was a killer, but I'd say more of a psychopath
After he killed Kit I knew he wasn't gonna be topboy again. Dushane was dealt a similar hand and he killed the guy who ordered the hit. Jamie could've faked kit's death and took both Sully & Dushane out. I hate how they made him out to be in the end
He can NEVER even try take them out again after failing the first time
@@topboy3269 yeah I get that he was the reason he walked out a free man to keep raising his brothers
if there isnt a Sully episode yet we need one
Sully the greatest on screen sociopath since avon barksdale..
@Relapse did you watch top boy summerhouse? He was a monster..
If you are the eldest sibling and the sole provider you can relate to Jamie. He's the young man that stepped up however if you have to kill another human being for power and money then you are bad no matter what.
Jamie killed his friend who stood by him (even though he got that kid killed, he didn't know it would go to that extent) for a dude that would've killed him if he didn't submit under his rule. I get taking him out before Dushane finds out he's still alive but you can't trust nobody that turns their back on someone who went to war with him.
But he did it so Dushane wouldn't come after his brothers, everything he does is for them
True... tough situations.. friends or family
That’s exactly why Sully kills him I think
@@joshuarobinson6011 everything he does? Such as making snake movements behind Dushanes back? That's for them?
I think that's why sully went after him, to dushaine it showed loyalty but to sully it showed it's showed disloyalty
Finished and started top boy this week, never had any idea how deep it was man, Jamie, sully and Shane are some of the best characters in tv period, one minute you hate em the next you’re feeling sympathetic and can understand them, such a good show man, and the thing that stood out to me the most is no one, literally no one in this show has had a happy ending, that goes for the characters and anyone around them, and them showing all that makes it hit deep, Jamie’s death was the unexpected by far
This was a great analysis of Jamie.he was the best character on top boy and shouldn't have died
He's a snake
He should died
Snitches get stitches
He deserved to die..he's a great character but the best character is definitively sully..
@@afrosamourai400 nah sully is the worst character. I hope he dies
@@gino9379 you're some L irl
I feel like the loss of both his parents in such a short time made Jamie see the fragility of life and how it can be taken from you so quickly. That’s why he chose to be so ‘cold blooded’ in the fields, he realised that if God could take his life so quickly, then why waste time waiting when you can be reckless and make money.
Jamie's the GOAT. Season 2 solidified him as my favourite character who showed us that as long as his family was happy, he was happy and the lengths he would go to keep them that way.
Technically it’s season 4
Jamie was a great character who had charisma with compassion and empathy, but then a ruthless dark side. You end up really rooting for him and hoping he finds some kind of redemption. A little bit how I also found myself rooting for Dushane in the same way before he was too far gone. However, there is no happy ending for any of these as this is the brutality of living this lifestyle.
Jamie is the definition of duality.
This dark psychology series is really interesting! Would be good to see Sully and or Dushane in this, If you havent got that lined up already. Respect man!
We need SULLY ASAP
for me jamies story was the best on the entire show it hit home money and the love for family makes people go to lengths they didnt know capable as someone with a similar past to the story of jamie i can say it starts as providing for the ones you love and tryin to build a better life but when u fall to deep into the lifestyle it becomes dangerous you become dangerous and the ones you care for eventully get hurt ill foreverbe lookin over my shoulder as i got out but ill always have people after me seeing jamie get popped made me cry as at any time it could be me and i couldnt imagine the pain my bros would be in or anyone this shit is real and his story was done and written amazingly
Every scene with jamie and his brothers is so well crafted its nuts bro
I feel so bad for Aaron and Stefan. I also lost my older brother when I was 18 years old. He died at 27 years old, I think about him everyday. Top Boy and TB summerhouse are fucking awesome tv shows
Fantastic work, this type of editing/storytelling belongs on Netflix!
Bro get this guy to a mil. This man broke down Jamie's character so well, analysing it as good, if not better than my English Teachers if they had the chance to 🤣😂😂
I think I liked Jamie so much because of how Michael Ward played him. Something about him idk but I like him. I hate that he killed Kit. Seeing how smart Jamie was I thought he would've found another way outta the situation.
only was to run or to try and kill dushane and sully. He couldn't have done either as both would've ruined life as he knows it for him and his brothers... Above all things Jamie is truly selfless and can't bear the fact that he would've ruined the civilian lives of his brothers
Jamie would of if he was the main character, however that role was taken by sully and dushane, yes hypothetically he is definitely smart enough to find a way around it and take them both out however they needed his downfall to happen, I’m gonna get into season 3 spoilers in the next comment explaining why it had to happen
SPOILERS FOR SEASON 3 TOPBOY DONT READ IF U DONT WAN TTO GET SPOILED
the reason jamie had to die was because he was dushanes retirement plan, dushane wanted to leave the street life however still gain funding from the streets but Jamie dying completely ruined that, with that out the way in season 3 he tried to find another means to leaving, promising to investing 2.1 million into Shelley’s chain however that goes to shit when his funds all disappear and eventually it led to his downfall, Jamie had to die in order for the downfall for the rest of the characters to also have a downfall, eventually the main cast is all killed off by the end of the show, Jamie was never a main character, that was sully and dushane shown by how dushane was given the exact situation jamie was in and instead of killing his right hand man he killed off the people who ordered the hits, Jamie couldn’t do this since the people he was going against wasn’t a antagonist but the main character, leading him to killing his bestfriend
Also his sympathy for ats murder shows he was a kind hearted person
your editing is unmatched so underrated
Jaime was Summer Houses nightmare…. The only option was to kill him. The Character was well written and the actor did a amazing job. Jaime was all the things that made Sully and Dushane Top Boy combined in him. Calculating and smart like Dushane with the win at all costs mentality all he could see is being Top Boy like Dushane. Ruthless and stuck to the code like Sully while also being a protector to the people he loved his family. Same as Sully and Jason. Great character Great show
This was my assessment of Jaime as well.....
Similar how Carlos Alcaraz is a combination of Federer, Nadal & Djokovic;
*THE FORMER BIG 3 OF TENNIS!*
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Jamie was my favorite character!! Glad you made this video
Being the eldest of two younger brothers, a discussing with my parents what I were to do if they passed makes this one hit different.
Your point on reinventing blew my mind, because it makes so much sense. Also can relate to that point
bro this production, storytelling and analysis from beginning to end is unbelievable. incredible video
the story telling,editing and qualityy videos is craaazy get this man s award
🙏🏼❤️
Jamie was definitely my fav character. I understood why Sully did it but I was also flabbergasted. I was shocked but knowing that the series is ending, it made sense I guess.
What happened to Jamie broke my heart. Brilliant storytelling.
I can’t believe they got rid of Jamie, he was d original dandada Top boy
I think Stef is gonna be the one who kills Sully, the last season was a foreshadow of what was to come. Also when you look at that scene it was almost like Sully wanted Stefs brothers to see who killed him, he could have gone in there masked up. I definitely think the next season is gonna be crazy, as Sully will have guns pointing at him from all sides. Dushane, Stef and Curtis' family are all lurking
i don't think sully is going to die
wait, but why would dushane want to kill sully tho?
@@JJmanWRLD868 Sully killed Jamie despite Dushane having a conversation with him stating that Jamie may be their way out of the street life. Also Jamie just proved his loyalty to Dushane by killing Kit so from his perspective Sully just killed a trustworthy asset for no other reason but to spite him, they already had a weakened relationship so this betrayal from Sully that has ruined Dushane plans once again may push him over the edge this time. Long explanation my bad lol
@@danigrande5451sully definitely gonna die brother
@@marvinboakye8469tbh him killing his best friend showed sully he ain’t loyal to begin with which is why sully killed him. Sully knows sooner or later they’ll be next
J, just finished watching your Snowfall breakdown, keep it up bro, the psychological breakdown of these beloved antagonists are beautifully break down. Your giving viewers that aren’t from our environment an in depth look on the mind set we went/go through to make it out through these memorable characters from these shows. Glad u made one on one of my favorite shows. Keep going bruv!
This is so incredibly well made, thanks for putting this together! :)
this is an amazing piece of media the story telling the language you use the editing it’s all 10/10
I liked Jamie man. He was kinda evil but the way he was killed pissed me off for one cuz it ended like that but at the same time it was kinda deserved and he was just a good big brother
mans got smoked
I’m glad I found this vid, 10/10. Well done for this
Thank you 🙏🏼
Man they couldn’t have picked a better person to play the character of Jamie. Congrats Michael ward 👏🏻👏🏻
Great job, very thorough video with preciseness and accuracy in your dialogue.
Great vid man super high quality Need that Franklin psychology part 2 since snowfall ended Much Love 🙏🏼
This analysis is hands down the best I’ve come across on RUclips. 🎯💯
Amazing video man! everything from the storytelling to the editing is just perfect.
First Time listener here. This is a very good vid, well researched, well presented and very precise. Visuals are good too!
Subbed.
Yes I'm so happy you mentioned Jamie from Top Boy
Your breakdown of characters and understanding how their mind works is just how I like my reviews of my favourite shows and characters.
I was aware of Jamie’s mindset and his motives, but you brilliantly analysed this character. For anyone who didn’t see Jamie so deeply, they can now. Well done 😁✌🏾❤️🇬🇧
This is an outstanding piece of analysis. Brilliant
your videos are getting better. Keep up the good work!
Ay this analysis was elite , really had me hooked for the whole video 👍keep it up bro
Appreciate the time and effort you have taken in the motion graphics and the story telling
This is great analysis, this will be the first of may if your vides I will watch. Keep up the good work 👌🏾
Beautifully explained! Really informative and interesting! Thank you so much bro ♥️
Watched and enjoyed every minute of the 33 minutes... Storytelling on top, also love the way you can put everything down to look at the entire story, must have spent hella time on this, well done
Great video! I enjoyed the editing, the analysis, and the atmosphere.
Keep up the good work, bro📈
this is so well written, voiced and edited. such an amazing video and if you stick to it you’ll do big things
Your videos keep getting better and better!!
You do yourself proud my brother, your knowledge and delivery are on point.
That intro was cold af tho
Hey J Wisdom! I just wanted to drop by and give you a massive shoutout for your incredible content on analyzing the psychological aspects of powerful male figures in movies and TV series. Your intelligence shines through every video, and I'm always amazed by your storytelling abilities. The way you break down these characters is so well put together, and it's clear that you put a lot of thought and research into your analysis. Keep up the fantastic work, my friend! Can't wait to see what you have in store for us next. 🌟
If I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm not very good when it comes to expressing myself through words on paper and using grammar and punctuation so this comment I left you above was all thanks to the AI chat. (I hope you respect me for being honest) as you explained in the Alfie Solomon video😉. But in all honesty bro, you have a serious talent bro and I truly say this bro, you deserve 10s of millions of subscribers and billions of views because the messages and teachings and Psychological reasons why humans react the way we do is truly, truly exceptional big bro sorry for the 1000 word essays but you must give credit where credit is due
You good man. I love every bit of what I’ve just watched. The details, the words, I mean everything is on point. 🤝
These top boys vids keeping me busy until the next season, good work 🙌
The editing is amazing man
Jamie was the best thing that happened to the top boy franchise. You still have sully but damn, idk where they're gonna go with the show now
Edit: Fam, that scene where Jamie gave buddy the bullet he could have killed him with, as a souvenir, was gangsta af
Jamie was such a beautifully written character. S2 of new top boy ruined a lot of characters and he was one of them. It's a shame because the Morocco subplot at the start of the season was great as Jamie learnt new things and found the beauty in hustling (from those kids at the beach).
This video is so good. I just discovered the channel, watched the entire video and subscribed. This is some quality that I haven’t seen on RUclips yet. Big ups for real.
Fam this the first video I’ve watched of yours but it was insightful and eloquent, appreciate it
Good video man.
Gang life to Jamie was just a job that provided everything quick and fast, I'm sure he didn't want to do bad things but he needed to get his job done in order to support his family.
Watching a lot of films and series like this we learn that it's just not possible to have 2 separate lives as they will eventually collide and cause disruption to one another.
The writing for Jamie was tight, an anti-hero that you was secretly routing for along the way despite the bad things that he done because his goal was something that most viewers could relate to.
Jamie = 🐍, treaty, snitch
Damn bro, your editing is top tier
Bro the amount of effort you chuck in in these videos are immaculate bro!! Subscribed 💯
You’re content is really dope and original. Keep up the great work
Need a Sully one asap!
Yo how many exams Aaron got left till he’s finished? Man’s been bangin on about exams for ages
I love the concept of this video. Very good story telling . Keep up the good work 👌🏾👍🏾
This video was so good bro! I'm honestly blown away by how clean and smooth it is! I can tell that you put a lot of effort and time in these videos! Keep it up, and I will be waiting for more!
The Dark psychology of Tommy Shelby would be good because theres so many layers
This is absolutely genuinely exicuted, whoever you are..... You will go far, keep doing what your doing
Great insightful video. By far the best vids, I've seen done for a show like this from the UK.
This is phenomenal... excellent work. The finessing is supreme and I'm now a subscriber
Really dope analysis of Jamie. I know eventually you'll do one of Sully. That should be quite interesting. Keep doin' your thing homie. 👍🏾
That is defo one of best story of Jamie man
Great video my mans. Amazing breakdown. Amazing narrative. Amazing everything!
Thank you bro 🙏🏼
Such a good video. Makes me wanna rewatch top boy all over again❤️
the reason why i liked jamie so much is because of his love for his brother. in a lot of crime series' families arent close and that is ok depending on the movie. but in topboy it was good how they made jamie given the context
Jamie h’s a snake and treaty