I think they could have done that with the spirit world by having oogway continuously beat tai lung in a fight constantly and teach tai lung at the same time till he understands his place in the universe and then have him be a peace with himself by the end which would be a fight with kai and in his last moments he says the dragon warrior shall beat u
When it comes to the villains of kung fu panda movies, Tai lung I felt like the only one of the three villains that could possibly find redemption. Shen May have found peace in his death. And Kai was too much of a threat to allow existing even in the spirit realm. But I think it would’ve been neat if at some point Poe once again found his way into the spirit world. And before he could summon himself back to the mortal realm Tie lung Would show up, demanding a spar. And though the fight wouldn’t be any less epic Poe would be able to tell that his opponent isn’t as angry as he used to be. And then afterwards they could finally talk. Maybe even Tai lung talking about how he ran into lord Shen. And that he saw everything while he was a jade pendant by Kai. Essentially meaning he knows what a great warrior Poe has become. And the fact that the panda was able to accomplish some of the same tasks that he could not. After all they were both abandoned and adopted. Maybe even Tia lung becomes humble acknowledging that Poe truly is the dragon warrior.
I agree of all the villains from this franchise Tai Lung deserves a redemption arc,I also think that he even could have talked with Oogway himself so he could finally know why Oogway didn't choose him to be the dragon warrior,after his fight with Poe and being sent to the Spirit Realm he has all the time to think about what he had done and his anger is probably gone at this point.
If I had to imagine shen he would be neutral and I feel he would be in a garden drinking tea enjoying peace but would hate to help po because of destiny and he would wish to still defy it And if tai lung returned i feel he would be a anti hero or a hero but he still would not forgive shifu
Two words: "It's nothing!" When Tai Lung saw that he couldn't gain anymore power from the scroll, he saw that his mission and what he saw as his destiny all came down to him instead of for great power. I agree that Tai Lung would seek out peace from máster Oogway, because his life of destruction and greed went nowhere.
If only Tai Lung wasn't so forgotten, and cast off as a villain, because he's not, he's a fallen hero who's long gone, who feels abandoned and blinded by fear and by neglect, who shadows himself as someone who will do literally anything to please That makes me wonder that if he's not such a bad guy, there could be a possibility that he's in the spirit realm right now contemplating on his wrongdoings
Adunno, he was tied up in prison unable to move for 20 years with nothing to do but contemplate and he still fostered all that hatred towards Shifu. I think a few centuries in the spirit world with master Oogway would eventually cool him off tho 😂
@@Celtic1020 Well he had 20 years of contemplation and he didn't reach remorse... Not really sure what you're saying. That's just what happened, he was still very angry after 20 years.
@@carnage0685 mm OP said Tai lung might be a hero given the right circumstances. But he could never let the whole dragon warrior prophesy go. I think prison is a pretty bad way to deal with people but if someone is as dangerous as Tailung... not actually sure how else to deal with him lol Never said he 'should' feel remorse, just that he didn't when most people prbly would have by then. Tho at the same time they also wouldn't be as difficult to keep in prisoned either. Tai lung had to be kept in chains suspended by giant boulders... If Tai lung was a real person you could give him a lot more freedom instead.
I have to say I did like your nuanced perspective. In the original film for a moment in the fight with Shifu, it seemed like Tai Lung may have had redemption. I sort of like the idea of semi redemption for Tai Lung, as from his viewpoint, he was the hero.
For me, I imagine the confrontation playing out like this: Tai Lung sees Oogway meditating and attempts to use his nerve attack on the turtle. However, the attack fails because Oogway no longer has a physical body. So Oogway just smiles as Tai Lung frantically jabs at him, saying "Hello Tai Lung. It is good to see you again." Enraged, Tai Lung goes all out on Oogway, screaming about how the turtle robbed him of his destiny. Oogway effortlessly blocks all of the Leonard's attacks until Tai Lung wears himself out. Once the fight had gone out of Tai Lung, he begs Oogway to just destroy him, as without the dragon scroll he no longer has purpose. Helping the leopard up, Oogway explains the message of the dragon scroll, how anyone can unlock their true potential if they only try. He then offers to show Tai Lung how to harness chi, which the Leopard reluctantly accepts.
Honestly that's perfect. Mind you, I don't think the nerve attack would work on Oogway anyway - his shell blocks off most of his vulnerable nerves, like how Po's bulk does.
I believe Tai Lung could find inner peace because he wasn’t fully evil When shifu talked to TL about how he was the reason TL turned out that way, TL showed a soft face towards his father figure showing that he still had some purity in his heart Master Oogway definitely could’ve worked with that so I believe TL changed his ways off screen
Here's something lots of people don't know, the reason po was able to defeat tai lung is because when tai lung saw the dragon scroll and how it was only his reflection he stopped believing in the dragon scroll, he then lost its power. Every person who believes in the dragon scroll already has its power, however this means if you stop believing you will lose it. Po already told tai lung the secret but he didn't understand, even going as far as to look at himself in the scroll and say "it's nothing" while po says "it's blank" meaning po sees himself as a blank canvas to be painted upon, meanwhile tai lung sees himself as nothing without the dragon scroll. It makes it so much sadder that he worked his whole life to achieve something that was already within him. Of course the real reason tai lung wanted the dragon scroll is because he wished to prove himself to shifu, when shifu finally told tai lung he was proud of him tai lung still decided it wasn't enough, that he hadn't earned it.
Not really that its not enough it Shifu said it at the wrong time and said nothing in the moment Tai Lung needed his father. Shifu was obsessed and blind and instead if caring he just taught Tai how to be a Great Warrior of which in my opinion he is the greatest warrior just not the main character.
How does a Snow Leopard eat something with a HARD shell like that? would a turtle even fit in its mouth? well... only way is if it was small enough... wait. . how big are turtles? and how big are the mouths of leopards? how STRONG is a leopards bite?
4:18 I absolutely agree with you on that Multi I mean I myself love a well done redemption for certain villains but there are points where I’m like “Yeah can’t we just let villains be evil? Or at least too set in their ways and they’re just unwilling to change.”
I've heard Tai Lung represents the first born son in a household. Always forced to be the best and held at such a high standard that failure of any sort was crippling. Tigeress was a black horse second child. Never quite gaining the same amount of love or attention as the first born because "Well, your brother already did this." It also made her hate Po, the youngest kid. The one that doesn't get the strict training. He just figures it out on his own because people don't learn in the same capacity. He gets the praise with, seemingly, no hard work necessary.
After watching this video, it makes sense that Tai Lung was afraid of the Wuxi finger hold and the fact that he couldn't become the Dragon Warrior. I feel bad for Tai Lung if he had been spared of the Wuxi hold, I think he could have been redeemed. But at last, he can't.
he was in prison for 20 years without a change of character at all. It would take some serious therapy for many decades for him to get over his daddy issues I think 😅
I imagine that if Tai Lung ever bumped into Oogway he would have just felt neutral towards him after so long both being a villain and spending time in the spirit realm. He is unable to really reform, but he can calm down a bit after just knowing that he has to stay in the spirit realm since he has no way out.
The only real difference between Tai and other antagonists is he wasn’t actually a villain. He never even killed anybody and only fought when people got in his way. The only reason for the fight between Shifu and him was again, someone was in his way for what may very well have been something he deserved. It wasn’t even really about revenge so much as it was about getting the dragon scroll. If they’d given it to him and he saw it was blank things may very well have been different.
Wait, when Po defeated Kai and the Chi of all the masters were like back to the spirit realm, does that mean Tai Lung is still alive in the spirit realm? And possibly return?
Tai Lung still exists in the Spirit Realm after Kai was destroyed, so technically if anyone ventured to the Spirit Realm again they could connect with Tai Lung again!
Honestly I wouldn't mind a series set in the spirit realm focusing on all those masters before and/or after Kai's inevitable defeat if it meant we got more of the snow leopard , because I do feel he'd grow under the guidance of Oogway who wouldn't try to mould Tai Lung in his own Vision like Shifu had.
They should have showed Tai Lung, while heavily injured, running from General Kai, only to be caught & turned into an amulet then in another scene we see Kai fighting Oogway
Also Issac did you see the comment I made on the video about Tai Lung’s nephew? If you haven’t here are my thoughts on the matter. I really don’t think it makes sense for Tai Lung to have a nephew when he was adopted from infancy with absolutely no connection to his biological family and the fact that his nephew apparently wants to be like him is kinda troubling given that Tai Lung turned out to be a psychotic monster. This is the same problem I have with Zira and the outlanders in Simba’s Pride where their whole purpose and existence doesn’t really sink well with the original movie.
I believe it has everything to do with her past I believe in her mind she would never want a child to go through what she had to as a kid that’s what I love about her
Hi, Isaac! I was really looking forward to seeing Lightyear now that it’s finally out, but since it didn’t seem to be a success as people were hoping, I don’t know. Buzz Lightyear is my favorite character in Toy Story, but I’m really unsure about it now. I am of course very happy you had a fun time watching it.
If they make a kung fu panda 4, I would like to see Tai Lung come back as an ally, and be more humble when facing another threat. I would like to see a redemption arc for him.
Rumor has it Tai Lung was gonna come back as an ally in KFP 3 but they nixed it. Still gave him a cameo though. BUT if creators were thinking of him being an ally the previous film, that only means it's no out of the question for later films. Maybe they will still do that but felt it best to save for a later film. Sometime before KFP 3 came out, Dreamworks said a total of 6 films was the plan.
Since KFP4 is confirmed for 2024, we might or at least I hope see Tai Lung again, but as an ally. He wasn't a villain, he was a broken hero that wanted to make his master proud, believed more in the dragon scroll than he believed in himself and then got sent to spirit relam and then Kai took his chi. I just think it would be cool if DreamWorks would add more Tai Lung's story to KFP franchise, since Po's story is complete and it's time for other characters to shine, like furious five, Tigress, Tai Lung, Shifu, or maybe even some new characters
@@chanderraghavHow do you know that Tai Lung's dead? We can clearly see in Kungfu Panda 1 where Po just banished Tai Lung's to the spiritual realm and that obviously didn't kill him just made him banished. And if you look in detail in Kungfu Panda 3 can be clearly seen among in Kai's jade clearly visible that one of them is Tai Lung's, still not dead . It has been confirmed that Tai Lung's will likely return in Kungfu Panda 4.
@@VivypodsisterI agree with you i’m going to be straight up honest Po actually saved Tai lung in kfp3 when he was under Kai’s spell so I really do believe that Tai lung actually does have a Redemption in my opinion and tai lung should be thanking Po for saving him do you believe me
@@chanderraghav Bro I think you have never seen Kungfu Panda movie. The evidence is clearly seen in the first movie where it is shown that Po only used The 'Wuxi Finger' to banish Tai Lung's to the spiritual realm, It should be remembered that the Martial art 'Wuxi Finger' is not killing, it is just sending the enemy to the spiritual realm. Another proof if we look clearly in detail in the movie Kungfu Panda 3 in the scene where Kai shows his collection of Jade Statues and one of the jade is Tai Lung's which means he is still alive. Now I'm asking you if it's true that Tai Lung's dead, give me solid evidence. If you can't, it means you're just talking nonsense. Learn more bro and not just talk nonsense
@chanderraghav Bro, don't you see that Po sent his body to the spiritual realm? 😂 obviously still alive. Once again I repeat that he uses the 'Skadoosh' finger art where the same technique he uses to Tai Lung's. If the technique he used to Tai Lung's killed him, the same thing would definitely happen to Po as well 🙄. The evidence you gave is also not strong. And finally Why did you delete your comment? remember if you don't know the facts and stories don't act like you know everything. what a shame what a cowardly policy
my head canon is that tai lung escaped the spirit realm after kai was defeated. my reason being is that tai lung was was one of the jade amulet that kai had and after po and kai went to the spirit realm, the jade amulet turned back into the warriors that were captured. so it's safe to say after tai lung went back to normal he ran off the first chance he got
I was just looking at the movie and saw this video I want to believe that he found peace I like people to find peace in their lives because who wants to live in agony and angry and the terrible emotions they felt living on the earth I want to believe he found inner peace and deserves happiness because he wasn’t ruthless to an extent he looked as if when he was talking to shefu he looked close to forgive but he was in anger and in mental turmoil
Imagine if we see Tai Lung battle Kai and see them evenly matched until Kai showed the power of Chi and demolishes Tai Lung, and at the end of the movie we see the freed Tai Lung learn to harness Chi
Tai Lung probably would have been chilling with Oogway after they have one of those talks, and realizing that the Dragon Warrior prophecy means nothing to him anymore considering he's dead
Tai Lung taking on Oogway the moment he arrives in the Spirit Realm before Kai capture Tai Lung. Interesting theory, but I doubt it, I meant what would Tai Lung achieve from taking on Oogway again? Also even if, Oogway would've won again since Tai Lung was no where on the same level of power as Oogway was.
@@theshenpartei Well yeah, when Po defeat him the medallions of the Masters he collected were all free, included the Masters who were caught in the Spirit Realm, that's clear when Oogway was free return back to normal in the Spirit Realm, so by the fact, Tai Lung was also free and return back to normal and still remain in the Spirit Realm.
I've always wondered how the battle between Kai and Tai lung went down. Both are extremely powerful but of course Kai got the upper-hand and obtained Tai lungs chi energy and made him a jade pendant. But what exactly did the battle look like?
Lemme try to visualize it. Tai Lung wandered through the desolate and strange land of the spirit world. Ahead, he heard the sounds of chains and blades scraping the ground. He growls and gets ready to fight. Through the fog, a calm voice comments on the fact that Tai Lung's chi is strong, but the lingering anger in his heart prevents him from fully using it. Tai Lung asks who the stranger is to lecture him about his potential. Kai then looks upwards, his green and blue eyes boring menacingly into the snow leopard. He says "When you fight alongside Oogway for many years, you pick up a thing or two. But now, I will take your chi and unlock the power you never could." He motions into a fighting stance, and the fight begins. Tai Lung tries the same move he opened with against Shifu, flipping high into the air before aiming to smash his foot down onto Kai's helmet. Although his foot makes contact, Kai seems unfazed, and the recoil is painful. Kai responds by using the momentum to throw Tai Lung into air uncontrollably, then headbutting him to knock him down. Tai Lung gets up and snarls in anger. He roars and goes for a series of hard, fast punches. Although Kai is skilled, and his blades are quite difficult for the snow leopard to dodge, Tai Lung's speed eventually allows him to land several good hits, slightly staggering Kai. The bull merely snorts at this, but remarks that that wasn't bad. He swings his blades at a massive rock, and builds momentum, before swinging it around at Tai Lung. He growls, and rapidly climbs up the giant mound and leaps up off it to gain what he thinks is an advantage, and initially it seems so. His sky-high hammer fist is a direct hit on Kai, knocking him down, and causing him to groan in pain. But this distraction was all Kai needed. He stands up, and says that while he fought most impressively, especially with that last hit, and that Shifu and Oogway trained him well, his emotions clouded his judgement throughout their entire fight, and thus he lost. He suddenly throws his blades at Tai Lung, seemingly in an attack. Tai Lung dodges them, but unfortunately, it was a plan to lure him into a false sense of security before ensnaring him with the chains. As Tai Lung's chi is drained, Kai assures him that he will make good use of his chin destroying Oogway's legacy. How's that?
I like to imagine Tai Lung’s time in the spirit realm had him training with Oogway to learn what he wants in his life. Maybe turn his inability to use chi into a strength, where he maxes out on hand to hand combat or even becomes proficient at chi blocking. Then eventually when Po returns to the spirit realm him and Tai Lung have a rematch, not as enemies, but as fellow warriors.
i love videos like this cause when i was young i just watched the movies as i couldnt watch anything like nightmare on elm street but coming back to videos like yours lets me understand the storys. keep the good work uncovering stories from childhood movies
When you spoke about Tai Lung being transported to the spirit realm and taking to Oogway, and how in his death Tai Lung moved passed his pride and rage reminded me of how Megatron in Transformers Prime sought redemption for his longtime past transgressions after being enduring the oppression by Unicron
Tai Lung isn't really evil. Not a saint, but I can't say evil. I think "Word Of God" confirmed that Tai Lung's inability to recognize the message of the Dragon Scroll is the only thing that keeps him from making a "Heel-Face Turn".
Tai Lung was my favorite antagonist in the entire franchise. I wish he would have lived to become a reluctant ally to the others. Slowly achieving redemption; becoming Po's best friend, and Tigress' lover.
As much thought that was put into this. And with how powerful tai Lung was. It’s hard to determine wether or not it’s actually tai lung. In kungfu panda 3 the previous masters were summoned as jade warriors. If tai lung was on his belt he would have came back as a jade warrior. I don’t see why not. He would be his most powerful jade warrior since he by himself was able to handle all of the members of the furious 5 so to not summon him would have been foolish. By himself he was more powerful than all the jade warriors combined.
I agree, that is fair. Tai lung put sweat and tears to get to where he was, and from the flashback scene it appears as oogway simply never intervened and stayed silent about the darkness consuming Tai’Lung. Then at the coronation he simply refuses to give him the scroll because of his aggression, so he basically waited until the last minute to say something. Anyone would be enraged to figure out that the one thing they have been training for was basically useless.
Also a new season was released on Kung fu panda I think it’s called Kung fu panda the wandering knight EDIT it’s called Kung fu panda the dragon knight
I hope of a next movie comes with oogway finding po's mom in the spiritralm and helps her to go to the living world. But also maybe tailung by accident that would make a great 4th movie. Maybe even get tailung to become good at the end by seeing that it doest make a difference and loses his anger after a last battle with po
It be honestly pretty cool to see tai lung return as a hero or anti hero either way it would be cool to see him and PO together fighting as allies and him making up with shifu
I read they were gonna have him be an ally in KFP 3 before ultimately nixing the idea. But that just shows the idea isn't out of the question for the filmmakers. They may just wanna save it for a later film since they have a total of 6 films planned.
Nope sorry but no he will not return because Tai Lung is dead okay and no he is not going to return because he is not as master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so unfortunately Tai Lung is dead
I'd love it to be that and Poe takes another villain into the spirit world and po about to lose or has lost hope but tai lung shows up and helps kinda like how morrow came back during the day of the departed in ninjago
I mean, he did show mercy on that goose messenger (Idk his name), and he didn't attack anyone else other than Shifu, Furious Five, and Po. He didn't want to hurt anyone, other than them, he only wanted what was his "Destiny".
Yeah but tai lung wouldn’t know that po saved him because he wa sin an amulet so when he went back to normal he would have went back to the place in the spirit world were he was takin and po wasn’t there so he wouldn’t know he didn’t see him
No for the absolute last time Tai Lung will not return because Tai Lung is dead okay and no he will not return because Tai Lung is dead he will not return because he is not a master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so unfortunately Tai Lung is dead
Hey Isaac, I was wondering if you could answer this question. Since the 3rd movie ended and Po came back to the living realm, is Po a spirit warrior like Kai was
Issac we got descendants content are u gonna do more theories or were u don’t after d3 Zombies 3 is almost here so if you have any more videos left bows the best time IssacCarlson
No for the absolutes last time Tai Lung will not be coming back because Tai Lung is dead okay because he is not as master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so unfortunately Tai Lung is dead
I think there could be a possibility that Tai Lung comes back as a good character or probably a powerful one to fight Po another time from the 3 movies all the villains were defeated specifically Shen and Kai died so maybe there could be a 4th movie were Tai Lung is at the edge of dying forever or redeeming himself, or just in general fight along Po's side and defeat a much more threatening villain
I have a question what of Wu sisters be next bad guys in Kung Fu panda 4 and master tigress get her part just like po did in Kung Fu panda 2? Because I really want to know who was Tigress Mom and dad why they left her behind?
I'm of a different mind, I think/hope tai lung will be the villain of the 4th movie. I believe upon loosing to po he did in fact learn the lession of the dragon scroll. I think he was humbled in a way by his loss, and so he sought to train more knowing that he was still no match for Oogway and that he could achieve greater power by his own hands. Unfortunately for tai lung kai found him and ended up defeating him as well another loss but also another chance to learn. But tai lung is a fast learner and from each defeat he learns, he learned nerve attacks just by having them used against him. The fact that the furious 5 were shocked to find out he knew that technique seems to me they knew he hadn't learned it before going to prison. If I'm right I believe we also never see kai summon the tai lung talisman same as with Oogway, I believe Tai lung may have given Kai a run for his money despite the great amount of chi he had collected because I believe he had learned enough about chi from the wushi finger that he may have actually harm Kai. I believe Oogway and Tai lung had the greatest amount of chi of all the masters and that's why Kai held their power at all times. Kai didn't approach Oogway right after he arrived in the spirit world, I believe he knew he didn't have enough chi to be Oogway until he took Tai lung's and he didn't unleash any of his jade talismans against Oogway because he needed all the power he could gather to insure his victory. When he arrived in the mortal world he clearly was able to get a feel for how much Chi Po had and was comfortable that he clearly had more even in the final battle holding back only Tai lung and Oogway to ensure he had enough to still over power Po. Sorry for the tangent back to the point. Once Kai was defeated no doubt Tai lung along with the other masters would have been freed and from their Tai lung would have learned several more lessons about chi. I believe he would train for a time, perhaps by besting the other masters and then outright defeat Oogway not to take his Chi but to simply prove that he could. Though he learned how to steal Chi he would not do it, that's not his style, especially since he learned the secret of the dragon scroll he would gloat to Oogway that he was right and that the power was within himself all along as he then returns to the mortal world under his own power. I believe Tai lung will have come up with a way to use he chi to corrupt others with his rage or something similar.
Isaac Carlson can you please do a more how to train your dragon videos and dragons the nine realms videos and theories and please do more of how to train your dragon dragon biology and are dragons archosaurs ancient prehistoric creatures related to dinosaurs pterosaurs birds and crocodillans and how did dragons evolved probably in the Mesozoic era
Have you watched The Bad Guys Issac? I myself want to watch it but a part of me is a little Leary about it mostly because I just know it’s gonna turn into another animated franchise that DreamWorks runs into the ground. (Shrek, Madagascar and to an extant Httyd and Kung Fu Panda)
@@thundervolt1018 Well I’ll admit it really depends on who you are depending on if you enjoy all the movies, shows and spin-offs. Me personally I wasn’t the biggest fan of the third movie though I actually really enjoy the Rescue Riders show, but I’ve heard nothing but bad things about Nine Realms
people thinks that tai lung would have fought other people but for me i'm pretty sure that he is a broken man mentally after what po did to him and just let kai jade-fy him just to let the pain stop.
I also think that Kai getting the better of him and stealing his chi would further humble him, perhaps it could solidify his path to attonement, or undo his progress on said path
i feel as though by the time of the third movie tai lung had found peace he found his own path otherwise i feel like tai lung would have instead teamed up with kai to defeat oogway but instead we see that his chi was taken probably meaning he fought against kai in order to stop or stall kai. i feel like if we see tai lung again hell have the facade of evil but once he finds po he will show his new true colors of having been redeemed
I can theorize on what happened after that wolf boss is confirmed live due to the video game that takes place after the second movie flat out shows that he is alive. As for the others they are joined the lin que or became bandits or joined other hostile factions towards the five or china.
No for the absolute last time Tai Lung redemption arc is not happening because Tai Lung is dead okay and no he will not return to the mortal realm because he is not a master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so unfortunately Tai Lung is dead
No for the absolute last time Tai Lung redemption arc is not happening because Tai Lung is dead okay and no he will not return to the mortal realm because he is not a master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so unfortunately Tai Lung is dead
I remember viewing kai as probably once nobel but became corrupted by desire for power. Shen was born already powerful (externally/politically/by heratige) but that left him so entitled he spent most of his life making decisions to benifit himself to the point that he was just plain evil. Tai lung kind of exibits both of those aspects in ways but i felt that boiled over only because he was most of all a victem of circumstance. The most justifiable villian. Prevented from carving his own destiny without any explination given. Too bad it filled him with rage tho. I think if he and oogway or poe later spoke, i hope that he would of been empathised with and informed that poe somewhat had a prophesized dragon warrior manifest destiny, for being a natural chi flow panda. A path that tai was told and thought was ment for him. And if the masters didn't sorta fail as his masters and used their wisdom and maturity to help him carve a new path he could of been a great and nobel legendary master in his own right in his own way, could of even taken otherwise high position in the world of the kung fu cousel legendary masters and could of even become the true dragon warriors greatest ally. Thats where tai failed himself, his own short fuse was his own undoing and is where he needs to forgive himself and others.
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Imagine if, at the end of Kfp3 when Kai is defeated and all masters return to life... Thai Lung also appeared out of nowhere... that would be a way to mess up the happy ending.
I for one, think Tai Lung would be filled with anger at losing to Po, and would try and find a way out of the Spirit Realm, he would have most likely come across Kai in his travels and attempt to take the secret of chi from him, only to lose and have his chi taken from him
Even tho I like tai lung as a villain, i like to think tai lung and oogway would’ve come to an understanding and wouldn’t moved on although that may not be the case
I like to imagine that Kai was finding Oogway and found Tai Lung. Planning to take his Chi he approached Tai Lung before attacking him he asked if he knows where is Oogway. Tai Lung replied that he knows where he is while preparing to fight and Kai replied then tell me where he is. In this scenario since Oogway taught Tai Lung how to achieve inner peace and accepts Oogways as his master again I think Tai Lung would try to fight Kai but ends up getting hos Chi stolen.
Hello Isaac can you mabey at one point a video of ratigan from the great mouse Dicetive becouse he is my second favorite Disney villian after scar from the Lion king,greetings from the Netherlands
Yeah, I wish we had furthered Tai Lung’s story to see his understanding of his place in the world.
Maybe a Novel from his perspective would be good. I know that can work just look at wicked for example.
I think they could have done that with the spirit world by having oogway continuously beat tai lung in a fight constantly and teach tai lung at the same time till he understands his place in the universe and then have him be a peace with himself by the end which would be a fight with kai and in his last moments he says the dragon warrior shall beat u
Maybe 4 will do that
@@blaziking0577 you never know until the trailer comes out.
@@blaziking0577 doubt
When it comes to the villains of kung fu panda movies, Tai lung I felt like the only one of the three villains that could possibly find redemption.
Shen May have found peace in his death.
And Kai was too much of a threat to allow existing even in the spirit realm.
But I think it would’ve been neat if at some point Poe once again found his way into the spirit world. And before he could summon himself back to the mortal realm Tie lung Would show up, demanding a spar.
And though the fight wouldn’t be any less epic Poe would be able to tell that his opponent isn’t as angry as he used to be.
And then afterwards they could finally talk.
Maybe even Tai lung talking about how he ran into lord Shen.
And that he saw everything while he was a jade pendant by Kai.
Essentially meaning he knows what a great warrior Poe has become.
And the fact that the panda was able to accomplish some of the same tasks that he could not.
After all they were both abandoned and adopted.
Maybe even Tia lung becomes humble acknowledging that Poe truly is the dragon warrior.
That scenario sounds interesting to see play out
My thoughts exactly
I agree of all the villains from this franchise Tai Lung deserves a redemption arc,I also think that he even could have talked with Oogway himself so he could finally know why Oogway didn't choose him to be the dragon warrior,after his fight with Poe and being sent to the Spirit Realm he has all the time to think about what he had done and his anger is probably gone at this point.
If I had to imagine shen he would be neutral and I feel he would be in a garden drinking tea enjoying peace but would hate to help po because of destiny and he would wish to still defy it
And if tai lung returned i feel he would be a anti hero or a hero but he still would not forgive shifu
Kai should get reincarnated, I think a soul purification like that in chinese mythology means reincarnation
Two words: "It's nothing!" When Tai Lung saw that he couldn't gain anymore power from the scroll, he saw that his mission and what he saw as his destiny all came down to him instead of for great power. I agree that Tai Lung would seek out peace from máster Oogway, because his life of destruction and greed went nowhere.
If only Tai Lung wasn't so forgotten, and cast off as a villain, because he's not, he's a fallen hero who's long gone, who feels abandoned and blinded by fear and by neglect, who shadows himself as someone who will do literally anything to please
That makes me wonder that if he's not such a bad guy, there could be a possibility that he's in the spirit realm right now contemplating on his wrongdoings
Adunno, he was tied up in prison unable to move for 20 years with nothing to do but contemplate and he still fostered all that hatred towards Shifu.
I think a few centuries in the spirit world with master Oogway would eventually cool him off tho 😂
@@Broockle 20 years of contemplation? Nah man if you were put in prison by your adoptive parent I doubt remorse is your natural conclusion.
@@Celtic1020
Well he had 20 years of contemplation and he didn't reach remorse...
Not really sure what you're saying.
That's just what happened, he was still very angry after 20 years.
@@Broockle You make it sound like he SHOULD feel remorse. Sorry, that's just generally not the way psychology works.
@@carnage0685
mm OP said Tai lung might be a hero given the right circumstances.
But he could never let the whole dragon warrior prophesy go.
I think prison is a pretty bad way to deal with people but if someone is as dangerous as Tailung... not actually sure how else to deal with him lol
Never said he 'should' feel remorse, just that he didn't when most people prbly would have by then. Tho at the same time they also wouldn't be as difficult to keep in prisoned either. Tai lung had to be kept in chains suspended by giant boulders...
If Tai lung was a real person you could give him a lot more freedom instead.
I have to say I did like your nuanced perspective. In the original film for a moment in the fight with Shifu, it seemed like Tai Lung may have had redemption. I sort of like the idea of semi redemption for Tai Lung, as from his viewpoint, he was the hero.
For me, I imagine the confrontation playing out like this: Tai Lung sees Oogway meditating and attempts to use his nerve attack on the turtle. However, the attack fails because Oogway no longer has a physical body. So Oogway just smiles as Tai Lung frantically jabs at him, saying "Hello Tai Lung. It is good to see you again." Enraged, Tai Lung goes all out on Oogway, screaming about how the turtle robbed him of his destiny. Oogway effortlessly blocks all of the Leonard's attacks until Tai Lung wears himself out. Once the fight had gone out of Tai Lung, he begs Oogway to just destroy him, as without the dragon scroll he no longer has purpose. Helping the leopard up, Oogway explains the message of the dragon scroll, how anyone can unlock their true potential if they only try. He then offers to show Tai Lung how to harness chi, which the Leopard reluctantly accepts.
Honestly that's perfect. Mind you, I don't think the nerve attack would work on Oogway anyway - his shell blocks off most of his vulnerable nerves, like how Po's bulk does.
the beg part is unrealistic same with the ds ..rest it totally true
The Leonard
@@theserpent8667right
I believe Tai Lung could find inner peace because he wasn’t fully evil
When shifu talked to TL about how he was the reason TL turned out that way, TL showed a soft face towards his father figure showing that he still had some purity in his heart
Master Oogway definitely could’ve worked with that so I believe TL changed his ways off screen
Yeah
Here's something lots of people don't know, the reason po was able to defeat tai lung is because when tai lung saw the dragon scroll and how it was only his reflection he stopped believing in the dragon scroll, he then lost its power. Every person who believes in the dragon scroll already has its power, however this means if you stop believing you will lose it. Po already told tai lung the secret but he didn't understand, even going as far as to look at himself in the scroll and say "it's nothing" while po says "it's blank" meaning po sees himself as a blank canvas to be painted upon, meanwhile tai lung sees himself as nothing without the dragon scroll. It makes it so much sadder that he worked his whole life to achieve something that was already within him. Of course the real reason tai lung wanted the dragon scroll is because he wished to prove himself to shifu, when shifu finally told tai lung he was proud of him tai lung still decided it wasn't enough, that he hadn't earned it.
Not really that its not enough it Shifu said it at the wrong time and said nothing in the moment Tai Lung needed his father. Shifu was obsessed and blind and instead if caring he just taught Tai how to be a Great Warrior of which in my opinion he is the greatest warrior just not the main character.
In reality, Snow Leopards eat Turtles.
Oogway: *Reverse Uno Card*
In reality a tiger hunt and eat most of them.
@@borhanuddin4289 Tigers cant eat snow leopards bud.
How does a Snow Leopard eat something with a HARD shell like that? would a turtle even fit in its mouth? well... only way is if it was small enough... wait. . how big are turtles? and how big are the mouths of leopards? how STRONG is a leopards bite?
@@GlopPlopJop If a snow leopard see a tiger, he will run for sure without a fight.
@@borhanuddin4289 Or the snow leopard would try to intimidate the tiger, especially when the tiger is in the snow leopards'.
I feel like he would have searched for inner peace. Tai Lung still had glimmers of humanity within him before he was skadooshed.
4:18 I absolutely agree with you on that Multi I mean I myself love a well done redemption for certain villains but there are points where I’m like “Yeah can’t we just let villains be evil? Or at least too set in their ways and they’re just unwilling to change.”
I've heard Tai Lung represents the first born son in a household. Always forced to be the best and held at such a high standard that failure of any sort was crippling. Tigeress was a black horse second child. Never quite gaining the same amount of love or attention as the first born because "Well, your brother already did this." It also made her hate Po, the youngest kid. The one that doesn't get the strict training. He just figures it out on his own because people don't learn in the same capacity. He gets the praise with, seemingly, no hard work necessary.
He and Tigress I wanted more of a backstory for and extended on. Tigress, Po and Ti Lung all were abandoned and mentored by the same master.
After watching this video, it makes sense that Tai Lung was afraid of the Wuxi finger hold and the fact that he couldn't become the Dragon Warrior. I feel bad for Tai Lung if he had been spared of the Wuxi hold, I think he could have been redeemed. But at last, he can't.
He was a living tragedy
he was in prison for 20 years without a change of character at all.
It would take some serious therapy for many decades for him to get over his daddy issues I think 😅
@@Broockle I mean yeah it's not like he was given therapy
@@Broockle To be fair, decades in a torture chamber is not known to be GREAT for someone's mental stability
I imagine that if Tai Lung ever bumped into Oogway he would have just felt neutral towards him after so long both being a villain and spending time in the spirit realm. He is unable to really reform, but he can calm down a bit after just knowing that he has to stay in the spirit realm since he has no way out.
The only real difference between Tai and other antagonists is he wasn’t actually a villain. He never even killed anybody and only fought when people got in his way.
The only reason for the fight between Shifu and him was again, someone was in his way for what may very well have been something he deserved. It wasn’t even really about revenge so much as it was about getting the dragon scroll.
If they’d given it to him and he saw it was blank things may very well have been different.
Wait, when Po defeated Kai and the Chi of all the masters were like back to the spirit realm, does that mean Tai Lung is still alive in the spirit realm? And possibly return?
Tai Lung still exists in the Spirit Realm after Kai was destroyed, so technically if anyone ventured to the Spirit Realm again they could connect with Tai Lung again!
@@IsaacCarlson can u do if shen fighted oogway?
@@FiveFurys5 shen probably isnt in the spirit realm so I don't really think they could fight
@@FiveFurys5 I think shifu is a much worthy opponent for shen
@@IsaacCarlson Kung fu panda 4 is officially announced so maybe he will come back in the future 🤔
Tai Lung wasn’t an enemy, we was just angry and felt betrayed by his only family then cast aside
Honestly I wouldn't mind a series set in the spirit realm focusing on all those masters before and/or after Kai's inevitable defeat if it meant we got more of the snow leopard , because I do feel he'd grow under the guidance of Oogway who wouldn't try to mould Tai Lung in his own Vision like Shifu had.
They should have showed Tai Lung, while heavily injured, running from General Kai, only to be caught & turned into an amulet then in another scene we see Kai fighting Oogway
I know! I WANTED MY KAI/TAI LUNG BATTLE!!!!
I still feel really awful for Tai Lung. Shifu not standing up for him must’ve felt like being abandoned again in a way.
Also Issac did you see the comment I made on the video about Tai Lung’s nephew?
If you haven’t here are my thoughts on the matter.
I really don’t think it makes sense for Tai Lung to have a nephew when he was adopted from infancy with absolutely no connection to his biological family and the fact that his nephew apparently wants to be like him is kinda troubling given that Tai Lung turned out to be a psychotic monster. This is the same problem I have with Zira and the outlanders in Simba’s Pride where their whole purpose and existence doesn’t really sink well with the original movie.
It couldve been Tai Lung's big brother or sister, that becomes Peng's parents.
Thanks for keep doing vids! I love every single one of them ❤️
I've been watching Legends of awesomeness more specifically " Kung Fu Daycare" I believe that Master Tigress would make a great mother.
That one was a good tigress episode anything involving with her is good like tigress tale is a another good one
I believe it has everything to do with her past I believe in her mind she would never want a child to go through what she had to as a kid that’s what I love about her
@@theshenpartei I agree but If you go back and look at her personality in that episode and in KFP 3 she gets more and more friendly towards kids
@@keneniahwilliams4374 pretty much and it’s all but confirmed canon
@@keneniahwilliams4374 The end of the holiday special is really adorable
Hi, Isaac! I was really looking forward to seeing Lightyear now that it’s finally out, but since it didn’t seem to be a success as people were hoping, I don’t know. Buzz Lightyear is my favorite character in Toy Story, but I’m really unsure about it now. I am of course very happy you had a fun time watching it.
If they make a kung fu panda 4, I would like to see Tai Lung come back as an ally, and be more humble when facing another threat. I would like to see a redemption arc for him.
Rumor has it Tai Lung was gonna come back as an ally in KFP 3 but they nixed it. Still gave him a cameo though.
BUT if creators were thinking of him being an ally the previous film, that only means it's no out of the question for later films.
Maybe they will still do that but felt it best to save for a later film. Sometime before KFP 3 came out, Dreamworks said a total of 6 films was the plan.
Since KFP4 is confirmed for 2024, we might or at least I hope see Tai Lung again, but as an ally. He wasn't a villain, he was a broken hero that wanted to make his master proud, believed more in the dragon scroll than he believed in himself and then got sent to spirit relam and then Kai took his chi. I just think it would be cool if DreamWorks would add more Tai Lung's story to KFP franchise, since Po's story is complete and it's time for other characters to shine, like furious five, Tigress, Tai Lung, Shifu, or maybe even some new characters
@@chanderraghavHow do you know that Tai Lung's dead? We can clearly see in Kungfu Panda 1 where Po just banished Tai Lung's to the spiritual realm and that obviously didn't kill him just made him banished. And if you look in detail in Kungfu Panda 3 can be clearly seen among in Kai's jade clearly visible that one of them is Tai Lung's, still not dead . It has been confirmed that Tai Lung's will likely return in Kungfu Panda 4.
@@VivypodsisterI agree with you i’m going to be straight up honest Po actually saved Tai lung in kfp3 when he was under Kai’s spell so I really do believe that Tai lung actually does have a Redemption in my opinion and tai lung should be thanking Po for saving him do you believe me
@@chanderraghav Bro I think you have never seen Kungfu Panda movie. The evidence is clearly seen in the first movie where it is shown that Po only used The 'Wuxi Finger' to banish Tai Lung's to the spiritual realm, It should be remembered that the Martial art 'Wuxi Finger' is not killing, it is just sending the enemy to the spiritual realm. Another proof if we look clearly in detail in the movie Kungfu Panda 3 in the scene where Kai shows his collection of Jade Statues and one of the jade is Tai Lung's which means he is still alive.
Now I'm asking you if it's true that Tai Lung's dead, give me solid evidence. If you can't, it means you're just talking nonsense. Learn more bro and not just talk nonsense
@chanderraghav Bro, don't you see that Po sent his body to the spiritual realm? 😂 obviously still alive. Once again I repeat that he uses the 'Skadoosh' finger art where the same technique he uses to Tai Lung's. If the technique he used to Tai Lung's killed him, the same thing would definitely happen to Po as well 🙄. The evidence you gave is also not strong.
And finally Why did you delete your comment? remember if you don't know the facts and stories don't act like you know everything. what a shame what a cowardly policy
my head canon is that tai lung escaped the spirit realm after kai was defeated. my reason being is that tai lung was was one of the jade amulet that kai had and after po and kai went to the spirit realm, the jade amulet turned back into the warriors that were captured. so it's safe to say after tai lung went back to normal he ran off the first chance he got
I was just looking at the movie and saw this video I want to believe that he found peace I like people to find peace in their lives because who wants to live in agony and angry and the terrible emotions they felt living on the earth I want to believe he found inner peace and deserves happiness because he wasn’t ruthless to an extent he looked as if when he was talking to shefu he looked close to forgive but he was in anger and in mental turmoil
Imagine if we see Tai Lung battle Kai and see them evenly matched until Kai showed the power of Chi and demolishes Tai Lung, and at the end of the movie we see the freed Tai Lung learn to harness Chi
Ngl Oogway was a wise teacher but he wasn't a good one since he didn't try to quell Tai Lung's rage
Tai Lung probably would have been chilling with Oogway after they have one of those talks, and realizing that the Dragon Warrior prophecy means nothing to him anymore considering he's dead
I hope they bring him back in the 4th movie. One where he gains inner peace and becomes good and help Po.
I could imagine them simply never meeting. The spirit realm is a big place.
Tai Lung taking on Oogway the moment he arrives in the Spirit Realm before Kai capture Tai Lung.
Interesting theory, but I doubt it, I meant what would Tai Lung achieve from taking on Oogway again? Also even if, Oogway would've won again since Tai Lung was no where on the same level of power as Oogway was.
So if Kai was destroyed in the spirit realm does that mean tai lung was also free in the realm? since one of them medallions on Kai was tai lung.
@@theshenpartei Well yeah, when Po defeat him the medallions of the Masters he collected were all free, included the Masters who were caught in the Spirit Realm, that's clear when Oogway was free return back to normal in the Spirit Realm, so by the fact, Tai Lung was also free and return back to normal and still remain in the Spirit Realm.
@@deshawnedwards6412 so that’s a major oopsie on Po’s part.
@@theshenpartei I mean they can't do much in the spirit realm
I've always wondered how the battle between Kai and Tai lung went down. Both are extremely powerful but of course Kai got the upper-hand and obtained Tai lungs chi energy and made him a jade pendant. But what exactly did the battle look like?
Lemme try to visualize it.
Tai Lung wandered through the desolate and strange land of the spirit world. Ahead, he heard the sounds of chains and blades scraping the ground. He growls and gets ready to fight. Through the fog, a calm voice comments on the fact that Tai Lung's chi is strong, but the lingering anger in his heart prevents him from fully using it. Tai Lung asks who the stranger is to lecture him about his potential.
Kai then looks upwards, his green and blue eyes boring menacingly into the snow leopard. He says "When you fight alongside Oogway for many years, you pick up a thing or two. But now, I will take your chi and unlock the power you never could." He motions into a fighting stance, and the fight begins.
Tai Lung tries the same move he opened with against Shifu, flipping high into the air before aiming to smash his foot down onto Kai's helmet. Although his foot makes contact, Kai seems unfazed, and the recoil is painful. Kai responds by using the momentum to throw Tai Lung into air uncontrollably, then headbutting him to knock him down.
Tai Lung gets up and snarls in anger. He roars and goes for a series of hard, fast punches. Although Kai is skilled, and his blades are quite difficult for the snow leopard to dodge, Tai Lung's speed eventually allows him to land several good hits, slightly staggering Kai.
The bull merely snorts at this, but remarks that that wasn't bad. He swings his blades at a massive rock, and builds momentum, before swinging it around at Tai Lung. He growls, and rapidly climbs up the giant mound and leaps up off it to gain what he thinks is an advantage, and initially it seems so. His sky-high hammer fist is a direct hit on Kai, knocking him down, and causing him to groan in pain.
But this distraction was all Kai needed. He stands up, and says that while he fought most impressively, especially with that last hit, and that Shifu and Oogway trained him well, his emotions clouded his judgement throughout their entire fight, and thus he lost.
He suddenly throws his blades at Tai Lung, seemingly in an attack. Tai Lung dodges them, but unfortunately, it was a plan to lure him into a false sense of security before ensnaring him with the chains. As Tai Lung's chi is drained, Kai assures him that he will make good use of his chin destroying Oogway's legacy.
How's that?
I feel like at the end, Tai Lung was humbled by Po defeating him and ultimately he sought out guidance from Oogway.
I like to imagine Tai Lung’s time in the spirit realm had him training with Oogway to learn what he wants in his life. Maybe turn his inability to use chi into a strength, where he maxes out on hand to hand combat or even becomes proficient at chi blocking. Then eventually when Po returns to the spirit realm him and Tai Lung have a rematch, not as enemies, but as fellow warriors.
i love videos like this cause when i was young i just watched the movies as i couldnt watch anything like nightmare on elm street but coming back to videos like yours lets me understand the storys. keep the good work uncovering stories from childhood movies
When you spoke about Tai Lung being transported to the spirit realm and taking to Oogway, and how in his death Tai Lung moved passed his pride and rage reminded me of how Megatron in Transformers Prime sought redemption for his longtime past transgressions after being enduring the oppression by Unicron
Tai Lung isn't really evil. Not a saint, but I can't say evil. I think "Word Of God" confirmed that Tai Lung's inability to recognize the message of the Dragon Scroll is the only thing that keeps him from making a "Heel-Face Turn".
Tai Lung was my favorite antagonist in the entire franchise. I wish he would have lived to become a reluctant ally to the others. Slowly achieving redemption; becoming Po's best friend, and Tigress' lover.
Po's best friend sound good but as tigress lover? Idk
As much thought that was put into this. And with how powerful tai Lung was. It’s hard to determine wether or not it’s actually tai lung. In kungfu panda 3 the previous masters were summoned as jade warriors. If tai lung was on his belt he would have came back as a jade warrior. I don’t see why not. He would be his most powerful jade warrior since he by himself was able to handle all of the members of the furious 5 so to not summon him would have been foolish. By himself he was more powerful than all the jade warriors combined.
I agree, that is fair. Tai lung put sweat and tears to get to where he was, and from the flashback scene it appears as oogway simply never intervened and stayed silent about the darkness consuming Tai’Lung. Then at the coronation he simply refuses to give him the scroll because of his aggression, so he basically waited until the last minute to say something. Anyone would be enraged to figure out that the one thing they have been training for was basically useless.
they gotta make a kung fu panda 4 with tai lung returning
Also a new season was released on Kung fu panda I think it’s called Kung fu panda the wandering knight EDIT it’s called Kung fu panda the dragon knight
That would be a rematch of legendary portions
I hope of a next movie comes with oogway finding po's mom in the spiritralm and helps her to go to the living world. But also maybe tailung by accident that would make a great 4th movie. Maybe even get tailung to become good at the end by seeing that it doest make a difference and loses his anger after a last battle with po
It be honestly pretty cool to see tai lung return as a hero or anti hero either way it would be cool to see him and PO together fighting as allies and him making up with shifu
I read they were gonna have him be an ally in KFP 3 before ultimately nixing the idea.
But that just shows the idea isn't out of the question for the filmmakers. They may just wanna save it for a later film since they have a total of 6 films planned.
Since kung-fu panda 4 is coming, I wonder if Tai lung is going to join the good guy to defeat the main antagonist?
Nope sorry but no he will not return because Tai Lung is dead okay and no he is not going to return because he is not as master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so unfortunately Tai Lung is dead
@@chanderraghav like Kai was😅
Tai lung is such a phenomenal villain. He's so cool
I'd love it to be that and Poe takes another villain into the spirit world and po about to lose or has lost hope but tai lung shows up and helps kinda like how morrow came back during the day of the departed in ninjago
I think tai lung deserve a chance to turn good 🥺
Sorry but he is not going to come back because Tai Lung is dead
@@chanderraghav like Kai was ...ejem
tai lung definitely met oogway in the spirit realm, thats for sure.
I mean, he did show mercy on that goose messenger (Idk his name), and he didn't attack anyone else other than Shifu, Furious Five, and Po. He didn't want to hurt anyone, other than them, he only wanted what was his "Destiny".
If Tai Lung returns in Kung Fu Panda 4 maybe he'll reform since Po freed him and all the Kung Fu Masters of the Spirit from Kai
Yeah but tai lung wouldn’t know that po saved him because he wa sin an amulet so when he went back to normal he would have went back to the place in the spirit world were he was takin and po wasn’t there so he wouldn’t know he didn’t see him
No for the absolute last time Tai Lung will not return because Tai Lung is dead okay and no he will not return because Tai Lung is dead he will not return because he is not a master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so unfortunately Tai Lung is dead
Personally I think Tai Long was physically and emotionally crushed I don't think even if he ran into Uugway he wouldn't have a fight just yet
Hey Isaac, I was wondering if you could answer this question. Since the 3rd movie ended and Po came back to the living realm, is Po a spirit warrior like Kai was
Oh Po is totally a spirit warrior now!!
@@IsaacCarlson Awesome
@@IsaacCarlsondoes that mean he isnt a human anymore? just a spirit?
I love how a panda Kung fu movie gets me thinking more than most “adult” films today.
Issac we got descendants content are u gonna do more theories or were u don’t after d3
Zombies 3 is almost here so if you have any more videos left bows the best time IssacCarlson
Theory: Tai Lung could return in Kung Fu Panda 4 by the next villain and team up with him or her then the next villain could bring back Shen somehow.
no. Not shen. Why shen.
No for the absolutes last time Tai Lung will not be coming back because Tai Lung is dead okay because he is not as master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so unfortunately Tai Lung is dead
I hope tailung comes back at some point mabye in another movie or series
On that note, I'm curious if he would somehow find a way back to the mortal world
I think there could be a possibility that Tai Lung comes back as a good character
or probably a powerful one to fight Po another time
from the 3 movies
all the villains were defeated
specifically Shen and Kai died
so maybe there could be a 4th movie were Tai Lung is at the edge of dying forever or redeeming himself, or just in general fight along Po's side and defeat a much more threatening villain
I can imagine Tai Lung walking up to Oogway trying to catch his fade 💀
Imagine if Kai summoned a jade tai lung to help him fight po in the third movie? Or have tai lung fight shifu at the jade palace?
NGL Id watch a movie or mini movie about tai lung finding his inner peace and talking to oogway one last time.
Can you do the topic of the first true Disney lovers like Bambi and Faline the first couple to meet as toddlers?
I have a question what of Wu sisters be next bad guys in Kung Fu panda 4 and master tigress get her part just like po did in Kung Fu panda 2? Because I really want to know who was Tigress Mom and dad why they left her behind?
I so want to see that happen although I’m not opposed to make a tigress tv series similar to the style of the mandalorian or a prequel film
Thank you for posting the video.
I'm of a different mind, I think/hope tai lung will be the villain of the 4th movie. I believe upon loosing to po he did in fact learn the lession of the dragon scroll. I think he was humbled in a way by his loss, and so he sought to train more knowing that he was still no match for Oogway and that he could achieve greater power by his own hands. Unfortunately for tai lung kai found him and ended up defeating him as well another loss but also another chance to learn.
But tai lung is a fast learner and from each defeat he learns, he learned nerve attacks just by having them used against him. The fact that the furious 5 were shocked to find out he knew that technique seems to me they knew he hadn't learned it before going to prison. If I'm right I believe we also never see kai summon the tai lung talisman same as with Oogway, I believe Tai lung may have given Kai a run for his money despite the great amount of chi he had collected because I believe he had learned enough about chi from the wushi finger that he may have actually harm Kai.
I believe Oogway and Tai lung had the greatest amount of chi of all the masters and that's why Kai held their power at all times. Kai didn't approach Oogway right after he arrived in the spirit world, I believe he knew he didn't have enough chi to be Oogway until he took Tai lung's and he didn't unleash any of his jade talismans against Oogway because he needed all the power he could gather to insure his victory. When he arrived in the mortal world he clearly was able to get a feel for how much Chi Po had and was comfortable that he clearly had more even in the final battle holding back only Tai lung and Oogway to ensure he had enough to still over power Po.
Sorry for the tangent back to the point. Once Kai was defeated no doubt Tai lung along with the other masters would have been freed and from their Tai lung would have learned several more lessons about chi. I believe he would train for a time, perhaps by besting the other masters and then outright defeat Oogway not to take his Chi but to simply prove that he could. Though he learned how to steal Chi he would not do it, that's not his style, especially since he learned the secret of the dragon scroll he would gloat to Oogway that he was right and that the power was within himself all along as he then returns to the mortal world under his own power. I believe Tai lung will have come up with a way to use he chi to corrupt others with his rage or something similar.
Isaac Carlson can you please do a more how to train your dragon videos and dragons the nine realms videos and theories and please do more of how to train your dragon dragon biology and are dragons archosaurs ancient prehistoric creatures related to dinosaurs pterosaurs birds and crocodillans and how did dragons evolved probably in the Mesozoic era
If she doesn't do what you desire her mother you shall acquire -Master Oogway
Have you watched The Bad Guys Issac?
I myself want to watch it but a part of me is a little Leary about it mostly because I just know it’s gonna turn into another animated franchise that DreamWorks runs into the ground. (Shrek, Madagascar and to an extant Httyd and Kung Fu Panda)
Why HTTYD?
@@thundervolt1018 Well I’ll admit it really depends on who you are depending on if you enjoy all the movies, shows and spin-offs. Me personally I wasn’t the biggest fan of the third movie though I actually really enjoy the Rescue Riders show, but I’ve heard nothing but bad things about Nine Realms
people thinks that tai lung would have fought other people but for me i'm pretty sure that he is a broken man mentally after what po did to him and just let kai jade-fy him just to let the pain stop.
You are like a teacher to us, in these theories.
Can you make bloopers of yourself while you were practicing your script of your videos?
I also think that Kai getting the better of him and stealing his chi would further humble him, perhaps it could solidify his path to attonement, or undo his progress on said path
i feel as though by the time of the third movie tai lung had found peace he found his own path otherwise i feel like tai lung would have instead teamed up with kai to defeat oogway but instead we see that his chi was taken probably meaning he fought against kai in order to stop or stall kai. i feel like if we see tai lung again hell have the facade of evil but once he finds po he will show his new true colors of having been redeemed
I want tai lung to return in kung fu panda 4
Man if they bring him back in 4 and give him a redemption arc and he fights side by side with po that would be soooooo sick
Can you please do some Despicable Me videos please? Especially with Rise of Gru coming soon.
I sometimes wonder that
Good idea! I believe they may have, *unless* just like in Kung Fu Panda 3 at the start Kai fought Oogway and Tai Lung *individually first*
kung fu panda 4 about tai lung fighting with the five and po? i'll take it, this trilogy cant get any better
Well, we NEVER saw him their, so it's unknown!.
can your next kung fu panda video be on what happened to shens army after his death
I can theorize on what happened after that wolf boss is confirmed live due to the video game that takes place after the second movie flat out shows that he is alive. As for the others they are joined the lin que or became bandits or joined other hostile factions towards the five or china.
Praying that a Tai Lung redemption arc occurs. If he became a plot point in KFP4, where he would be needed to defeat the next villain
No for the absolute last time Tai Lung redemption arc is not happening because Tai Lung is dead okay and no he will not return to the mortal realm because he is not a master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so unfortunately Tai Lung is dead
No for the absolute last time Tai Lung redemption arc is not happening because Tai Lung is dead okay and no he will not return to the mortal realm because he is not a master of chi and he is not in peace with himself so unfortunately Tai Lung is dead
@@chanderraghav Unfathomably wrong, tai lung is in the spirit realm - take the massive L at being incorrect.
I remember viewing kai as probably once nobel but became corrupted by desire for power.
Shen was born already powerful (externally/politically/by heratige) but that left him so entitled he spent most of his life making decisions to benifit himself to the point that he was just plain evil.
Tai lung kind of exibits both of those aspects in ways but i felt that boiled over only because he was most of all a victem of circumstance. The most justifiable villian. Prevented from carving his own destiny without any explination given. Too bad it filled him with rage tho. I think if he and oogway or poe later spoke, i hope that he would of been empathised with and informed that poe somewhat had a prophesized dragon warrior manifest destiny, for being a natural chi flow panda. A path that tai was told and thought was ment for him. And if the masters didn't sorta fail as his masters and used their wisdom and maturity to help him carve a new path he could of been a great and nobel legendary master in his own right in his own way, could of even taken otherwise high position in the world of the kung fu cousel legendary masters and could of even become the true dragon warriors greatest ally. Thats where tai failed himself, his own short fuse was his own undoing and is where he needs to forgive himself and others.
Could watching comedy in your room open a portal to the monster world. We learned in college if we get enough scare we activate the door from our side . But laughs are 10 times as powerful as screarms
Oogway went to the spirit world because he knew Tia lung was going to need help once he got there.
Interested theory....there is no accidents
Imagine if, at the end of Kfp3 when Kai is defeated and all masters return to life...
Thai Lung also appeared out of nowhere... that would be a way to mess up the happy ending.
He has to return I don't care how he has to return
I for one, think Tai Lung would be filled with anger at losing to Po, and would try and find a way out of the Spirit Realm, he would have most likely come across Kai in his travels and attempt to take the secret of chi from him, only to lose and have his chi taken from him
i want to see tai lung return, hes too good to be put under the bus
@@chanderraghav ok…interesting response..but what leads you to believe tAi lung is dead?
Even tho I like tai lung as a villain, i like to think tai lung and oogway would’ve come to an understanding and wouldn’t moved on although that may not be the case
Awesome 😎
I like to imagine that Kai was finding Oogway and found Tai Lung. Planning to take his Chi he approached Tai Lung before attacking him he asked if he knows where is Oogway. Tai Lung replied that he knows where he is while preparing to fight and Kai replied then tell me where he is. In this scenario since Oogway taught Tai Lung how to achieve inner peace and accepts Oogways as his master again I think Tai Lung would try to fight Kai but ends up getting hos Chi stolen.
I'd love to see the character come back temporarily as a member of the team. Kind of like Barbosa in Pirates of the Caribbean.
I'm happy I'll get to see Tai Lung in Kung Fu panda 4
Hello Isaac can you mabey at one point a video of ratigan from the great mouse Dicetive becouse he is my second favorite Disney villian after scar from the Lion king,greetings from the Netherlands