You know, considering how you were talking about Hallrassy usually being a hard carry for weaker teammates, that sure was some sloppy play in the second game. The friendly fire was just painful to watch. And even if his teammate zvendoch isn't as practiced and a fair bit slower on his tech, I thought he performed quite well. He had some great targeting, especially in the first game. Hope he continues to improve and impress in future games and leagues.
Likewise. I'd probably give it a go, but non of my friends are willing to pull the trigger even on a 45% steam sale lol. Hopefully, if Forts 2 is ever a thing, it's F2P with cosmetic shop. Maybe then the game will see a resurgence.
Since they seemed to be anti-howi weapons maybe it makes sense. Cheaper than cannon and still deals damage after stopping a howitzer. There is a method to the madness
Destroyed a total of 3 allied 20mm weapons without changing a thing, all the while his ally was getting trashed by the commentators the whole game for being a noob 😂 the irony
@@TheLifeOfAnIndividual bro what are you doing in the comment section if you’re worried about spoilers? Do you also skip to the end of the RUclips video and then blame RUclips for having a fast forward feature?
It really felt like Halrassy got tilted off the face of the planet round 2 with the friendly fire and threw in the towel round 3 with a portals + mortar cheese. Don't get me wrong, the portal mortar strat works good in pubs, but it's so easy to counter in 2v2 comp teams when there's always one person on the other team that has lasers and they're playing reactive.
I really don't get the commentary on this one, it felt insanely biased. Hallrassy was not pulling his weight at all in the second match and was consistently hurting his team MASSIVELY with the friendly fire while zvezdochka was basically being 2v1'd. The commentators constantly treated zvezdochka like a newbie holding his team back while Hallrassy wasn't only holding his team back, but literally actively hurting it. It's like the commentators made one assumption right from the get-go (that zvezdochka was gonna be hard-carried by Hallrassy the entire time) and just completely refused to believe anything else.
which is even weirder because zvezdochka was the mvp for game one. He got that phenomenal plasma snipe kill shot. His aiming was on point all 3 matches, he just was a bit slow with early game micro.
Loving the series! I have watched and will watch every forts video you put out forever :) If you are open to feedback it would be really nice if you displayed the team win/loss over the course of the tornament during the games, as well as the current series map score, because that would make things easier to follow :)
pregame predictions are fun, so here's one about 30 seconds in: Hal is REALLY good at this videogame, like 'could 1v2 most teams' good. But Klaus is pretty close, and myself is no slouch either. Know nothing about hal's teammate, if they played already I missed it, but I know hal, and I know he can do well. If zvez is even half decent, Hal can easily clean house. Otherwise, fair fight. As for game 1's map, hal is on the top, should be no contest unless Klaus can get a cheeky BS coresnipe. After: Pretty much what I expected for game 1. Though Klaus got sniped significantly sooner than I expected. Game 2: They tried a rush, it failed, the inevitable occurred. That godly sniper play certainly helped, too. Game 3: Cool idea, punished hard. The fact they he didn't even door the mortars the second time was just asking for trouble, and the lack of interior bracing when he knew a howi was coming... I dunno, kinda think Hal got tilted and stopped trying. Zvez: credit where it's due, he was actually pretty decent. Definitely out of his league, but he did a good job punching above his weight. If hal played at his best instead of trying to be silly, I think they would have won 2-0
Woah, top notch commentary in this cast! The jokes, the emotions, the witty phrasing, the insight into players' history and character. The game was great too, but this cast was one of the best ones so far, and I've been enjoying your videos for a few years now. Feels like you were able to relax, get in the zone and just enjoy yourself. Great job Incursus! And thanks for making my day just a little. bit. better ^^
@@dungeonmaster1наша проблема была в том, что мы изначально в 2 последних играх не рассчитывали выходить в лонг-гейм мы просто считали что тактика с горизонтальным мортирами и ракетами (уже во второй игре) делают бум по противнику, и он умирает увидев отпор мы оба ничего не смогли сделать(
I don't know why the commentators were beating you down that hard while treating Hallrassy like one of the best players around, you did way better than him imo. It really seemed like he was holding the team back way more than you, especially when he seemed to go out of his way to hurt the team.
That was some great matches. Total emotional rollercoaster. I'd like to see Hallrassy get his shot at redemption with another teammate. 😂 That dude is seriously good, though. His building was super fast and clean. APM master there.
Just starting, will THIS be the one where I see some insane shit where a particle accelerator is set up again? please god more than T3s I want to see particle accelerator go brrt we shall see
The meme strats, like accelerators, are far too suboptimal to see use in any competitive setting. Much better chance to see those strats during community game nights
@@Incursus That makes sense, I just figured surely a like armordillo turtle team would be able to do something with it, with one player focusing purely on space control/defense and the other one prepping for sending it Since it doesn't require open forward doors I figured it could afford to be fairly low interaction with a lot of early game threat but iunno Maybe too easy to focus out the support player if they realize whats happening
I feel like the moral of this match is that the early game weapons (mortars and rockets) could need some buffs, it doesn't feel like they do enough to justify them over just rushing heavy weapons.
I don't quite agree. It didn't work well in these matches, but has absolutely gotten others the win before. Ultimately I think it comes down to how well your opponent is able to handle the defense. Early game weapons shouldn't be able to completely overwhelm someone's defensive efforts, but should still require a good amount of skill to tank while trying to build up your own heavy weapons. It's a gamble that your skill and speed outweighs your opponent's skills of observation and defensive play. And unfortunately, Team Skillgap was just more skilled. The last match really exemplified this. Zvez and Klau had very similar strategies, but Zvez had double the economy of Klau, more or less. Not only did Zvez have fully upgraded mines and tons of upgraded turbines early on, but they also placed down their initial mines faster than Klau. However, while Klau and Zvez were primarily focused on each other, Klau was able to also focus a laser or two on hitting Hallrassy, taking out their mortars and dealing core damage multiple times. Zvez did hit i am myself some too, but not with the same frequency or effectiveness as Klau to Hallrassy.
People always shoot this down, but no matter how many matches I watch... it always comes down to the same thing... howitzer + cannon + shotguns/firebeams to clear anti-air winning far more often than not. Mortars/Miniguns are almost entirely unused, and rockets really only get used to finish matches you are winning faster. The weird part is the devs say they watch these for balancing reasons.... we'll maybe they don't watch close enough.
3:16 Yeah its inpressive. But i still love your defensive failure video years ago. You played amazing. Spoiler incase someone wants to go watch it and hasnt seen it. 1v4 managing to take one out before going out yourself. Makes me wonder if you and him would be unstoppable
@@danieladmiraal9371anything that can’t be detected or noticed, can’t be prevented and are thus allowed. This includes keyboard and mouse macros, just not 3rd party software macros.
one has the early game perfect but seemingly doesnt know how to attack and the other knows how to attack but is slow. both good players but a bad pair. I dont understand why they glaze hallrassy so much though he was fairly useless here
How much is it to ask for you to just keep the camera zoomed out so we can see what's going on? You keep zooming in randomly and missing half the action.
You are just making it harder to follow FPL by not putting the team names in the title instead of c tier commentary on how the match went. Also, where is this in the ladder?
Thank you for the feedback! The FPL is a season type activity, not tournament, it doesn't have a ladder so much as a general summation of points earned. You can check the points earned at the link in the description.
@@Incursus bah, your commentary is good. Only complaint about the commentary is that Noze's mic will have a bit of echo of your voice sometimes, maybe ask them to go on push to talk :P As far as putting the names in the titles, I do agree it would be cool.
Halrassy: I keep getting bad teammates
Also Halrassy: *double friendly fire his own teams 20mms*
and doesnt do any significant damage the entire game. hes good at building but doesnt know how to attack or coordinate with teammates
You know, considering how you were talking about Hallrassy usually being a hard carry for weaker teammates, that sure was some sloppy play in the second game. The friendly fire was just painful to watch. And even if his teammate zvendoch isn't as practiced and a fair bit slower on his tech, I thought he performed quite well. He had some great targeting, especially in the first game. Hope he continues to improve and impress in future games and leagues.
thanks! ^^
@@siaash3814 is this the man himself?! How’d that friendly fire feel in the second game 😭
zvezdochka did great, agreed! huge props to them, and better luck next time!
I cringed at his teammate friendly firing the cannons. Then after he fell I realized that was Hallrassy and not his teammate.
Ive never played, or even really heard about this game. But your videos have kept me invested in it for years at this point.
Really great content.
I have never played either but have been watching PI for a considerable time too.
I bought it some years ago because of Incursus, I sucked. I stick to watching now
I need practise but getting into lobbies is difficult and bots too repetitive @@Emulleator
@@evancrow2191 make a lobby
Likewise. I'd probably give it a go, but non of my friends are willing to pull the trigger even on a 45% steam sale lol. Hopefully, if Forts 2 is ever a thing, it's F2P with cosmetic shop. Maybe then the game will see a resurgence.
me: "wait are those 20 mils?"
incurses immediately: "Oh no, those are 20 mils, okay, welp, we tried"
I agree but damn that's harsh
Since they seemed to be anti-howi weapons maybe it makes sense. Cheaper than cannon and still deals damage after stopping a howitzer.
There is a method to the madness
Halrassy just destroying his own teammate 💀
Destroyed a total of 3 allied 20mm weapons without changing a thing, all the while his ally was getting trashed by the commentators the whole game for being a noob 😂 the irony
If he is a good player he was having a big off day.
Halrassy has no teammates, he's always playing 1v3 >:P
Fucking spoiler
@@TheLifeOfAnIndividual bro what are you doing in the comment section if you’re worried about spoilers? Do you also skip to the end of the RUclips video and then blame RUclips for having a fast forward feature?
Zvezdoch was a good player he just got a bad teammate
yeah I dont get the commentary at all
4 lasers ? No, not war crimes. We call this shenanigans
Good video, love the chill but very informative commentary.
i LOVE this content. Pro Forts matches are fun to watch but the expert commentary makes it so much more entertaining.
every time incursus says "fort" i will take a drink
Someone is about to get wasted
@@Incursus ywah man i gptts hamd it To yoy, gteat vvidep
Lmaoooo
That first death was the best slow motion replay I've seen in a while!
Probably my favorite matches of FPL here, absolute slug fest from both sides. Well played and well made, keep up the good work.
It really felt like Halrassy got tilted off the face of the planet round 2 with the friendly fire and threw in the towel round 3 with a portals + mortar cheese. Don't get me wrong, the portal mortar strat works good in pubs, but it's so easy to counter in 2v2 comp teams when there's always one person on the other team that has lasers and they're playing reactive.
I really don't get the commentary on this one, it felt insanely biased. Hallrassy was not pulling his weight at all in the second match and was consistently hurting his team MASSIVELY with the friendly fire while zvezdochka was basically being 2v1'd. The commentators constantly treated zvezdochka like a newbie holding his team back while Hallrassy wasn't only holding his team back, but literally actively hurting it. It's like the commentators made one assumption right from the get-go (that zvezdochka was gonna be hard-carried by Hallrassy the entire time) and just completely refused to believe anything else.
which is even weirder because zvezdochka was the mvp for game one. He got that phenomenal plasma snipe kill shot. His aiming was on point all 3 matches, he just was a bit slow with early game micro.
that rocket barage in game 1 must have felt so good (for the people firing it.)
1:51 that is some EmOtIoNaL dAmAgE!
"Invincibility lies in the defence, the chance of victory in the attack" -Sun Tzu
Great match, I feel like it was a deserved victory in the end!
I never get tired of forts videos❤❤❤
I am skillgap's #1 supporter rn, i respect that i am myself has (until the third match) always gone for lasers
13:47
Everything is on fire!!!
Everything is always on fire
So happy to see a new episode
Loving the series! I have watched and will watch every forts video you put out forever :)
If you are open to feedback it would be really nice if you displayed the team win/loss over the course of the tornament during the games, as well as the current series map score, because that would make things easier to follow :)
Those base collapses were so beautifully close
pregame predictions are fun, so here's one about 30 seconds in:
Hal is REALLY good at this videogame, like 'could 1v2 most teams' good.
But Klaus is pretty close, and myself is no slouch either.
Know nothing about hal's teammate, if they played already I missed it, but I know hal, and I know he can do well.
If zvez is even half decent, Hal can easily clean house. Otherwise, fair fight.
As for game 1's map, hal is on the top, should be no contest unless Klaus can get a cheeky BS coresnipe.
After: Pretty much what I expected for game 1. Though Klaus got sniped significantly sooner than I expected.
Game 2: They tried a rush, it failed, the inevitable occurred. That godly sniper play certainly helped, too.
Game 3: Cool idea, punished hard. The fact they he didn't even door the mortars the second time was just asking for trouble, and the lack of interior bracing when he knew a howi was coming... I dunno, kinda think Hal got tilted and stopped trying.
Zvez: credit where it's due, he was actually pretty decent. Definitely out of his league, but he did a good job punching above his weight. If hal played at his best instead of trying to be silly, I think they would have won 2-0
Bro doing tricks on halirassys dick. He sucked ass these 3 games, completely screwing his teammate. He was out of his league
“Team hot butter is getting melted”
the word you were looking for was "diverge"
Yes, thank you
who would win: astra militarum combat doctrine (overwhelming artillery) or big wall of wood
The shotgun behind that wall of wood
That could have been the finals. Great match! So close so many times could have gone either way
Loved the Hotbutter team, sad to see them lose.
25:00 that snipe was :0
Woah, top notch commentary in this cast! The jokes, the emotions, the witty phrasing, the insight into players' history and character. The game was great too, but this cast was one of the best ones so far, and I've been enjoying your videos for a few years now. Feels like you were able to relax, get in the zone and just enjoy yourself. Great job Incursus! And thanks for making my day just a little. bit. better ^^
our teamplay was worse than depth of high seas
ага, у меня с моим кентом также
@@dungeonmaster1наша проблема была в том, что мы изначально в 2 последних играх не рассчитывали выходить в лонг-гейм
мы просто считали что тактика с горизонтальным мортирами и ракетами (уже во второй игре) делают бум по противнику, и он умирает
увидев отпор мы оба ничего не смогли сделать(
I don't know why the commentators were beating you down that hard while treating Hallrassy like one of the best players around, you did way better than him imo. It really seemed like he was holding the team back way more than you, especially when he seemed to go out of his way to hurt the team.
Hallrassy put up one heck of a fight.
10/10
Avali....
That was some great matches. Total emotional rollercoaster. I'd like to see Hallrassy get his shot at redemption with another teammate. 😂
That dude is seriously good, though. His building was super fast and clean. APM master there.
apm yeah sure hes great at getting things up quick but what did he do in these three games apart from screw over his teammate twice
Love those games!
This camera control.... yicks
Just starting, will THIS be the one where I see some insane shit where a particle accelerator is set up again? please god more than T3s I want to see particle accelerator go brrt
we shall see
we saw portal shenanigans it's good enough
Even if the defensive portal flipping wasn't on point
The meme strats, like accelerators, are far too suboptimal to see use in any competitive setting. Much better chance to see those strats during community game nights
@@Incursus That makes sense, I just figured surely a like armordillo turtle team would be able to do something with it, with one player focusing purely on space control/defense and the other one prepping for sending it
Since it doesn't require open forward doors I figured it could afford to be fairly low interaction with a lot of early game threat but iunno
Maybe too easy to focus out the support player if they realize whats happening
I guess you've got the name of the video wrong? xD Totally bombastic game tho!
I feel like the moral of this match is that the early game weapons (mortars and rockets) could need some buffs, it doesn't feel like they do enough to justify them over just rushing heavy weapons.
I don't quite agree. It didn't work well in these matches, but has absolutely gotten others the win before. Ultimately I think it comes down to how well your opponent is able to handle the defense. Early game weapons shouldn't be able to completely overwhelm someone's defensive efforts, but should still require a good amount of skill to tank while trying to build up your own heavy weapons. It's a gamble that your skill and speed outweighs your opponent's skills of observation and defensive play. And unfortunately, Team Skillgap was just more skilled.
The last match really exemplified this. Zvez and Klau had very similar strategies, but Zvez had double the economy of Klau, more or less. Not only did Zvez have fully upgraded mines and tons of upgraded turbines early on, but they also placed down their initial mines faster than Klau. However, while Klau and Zvez were primarily focused on each other, Klau was able to also focus a laser or two on hitting Hallrassy, taking out their mortars and dealing core damage multiple times. Zvez did hit i am myself some too, but not with the same frequency or effectiveness as Klau to Hallrassy.
theyre switch weapons, they should be used only with lasers or cannons if theyre just not able to do the damage needed. people use them wrong
People always shoot this down, but no matter how many matches I watch... it always comes down to the same thing... howitzer + cannon + shotguns/firebeams to clear anti-air winning far more often than not. Mortars/Miniguns are almost entirely unused, and rockets really only get used to finish matches you are winning faster. The weird part is the devs say they watch these for balancing reasons.... we'll maybe they don't watch close enough.
I was just wanting to watch a rocket rush
3:16
Yeah its inpressive.
But i still love your defensive failure video years ago.
You played amazing.
Spoiler incase someone wants to go watch it and hasnt seen it.
1v4 managing to take one out before going out yourself.
Makes me wonder if you and him would be unstoppable
those 2nd fight howitzers were just pure bs. direct good aa hits and not able to kill those bullets
Flac are big trash against Howitzers, one Flac only takes a howitzer out in the rarest of cases. You either need shotguns or gunners.
Howitzers are bullshit in general.
Wombat?
Spoiler Shield 🛡
27:01 lol
I have a totally random question, in The Forts Pro League, are any sort of macros allowed?
I'm pretty sure macros aren't allowed in any pvp rts game except in special cases like AI matches.
@@danieladmiraal9371anything that can’t be detected or noticed, can’t be prevented and are thus allowed. This includes keyboard and mouse macros, just not 3rd party software macros.
Can you use team blue and team red instead of team 1 and team 2. It just confuses me.
its not hard mate. 1 is left. 2 is right.
Omg I just realized mortars are garbage because they were designed for a game where AA had to be manually aimed
Hard carry? his teammate performed better imo
one has the early game perfect but seemingly doesnt know how to attack and the other knows how to attack but is slow. both good players but a bad pair. I dont understand why they glaze hallrassy so much though he was fairly useless here
@@stephenallen4635 fr
gud
How much is it to ask for you to just keep the camera zoomed out so we can see what's going on? You keep zooming in randomly and missing half the action.
Why doesn't he just play 1v1?
Second.
I think y'all should ban the howitzer from tournament play.
why? its expensive, slow and easy to counter
@@stephenallen4635 It forces so much wood spam.
@@StudleyDuderight And what else doesn't?
You are just making it harder to follow FPL by not putting the team names in the title instead of c tier commentary on how the match went. Also, where is this in the ladder?
Thank you for the feedback!
The FPL is a season type activity, not tournament, it doesn't have a ladder so much as a general summation of points earned. You can check the points earned at the link in the description.
@@Incursus bah, your commentary is good. Only complaint about the commentary is that Noze's mic will have a bit of echo of your voice sometimes, maybe ask them to go on push to talk :P
As far as putting the names in the titles, I do agree it would be cool.