I mean okay, but you know we also have Yellow for that, don’t you? That’s also why I wondered why people used to buy Red and Blue instead of Yellow when they came out on Virtual Console.
@@davion4777Yellow was technically how the game implemented the adventure from anime counterparts, most of Gym Leaders are lots easier and less challenging tbh, which is why most people outright just bought R/G/B instead
I don’t know about anyone else but the Sevii isles for me as a kid were always fun. I always likened them to the Kanto postgame in GSC. I would rearrange my whole team with Jhoto Pokémon not to mention the Islands are like their own region with events, story and rematches for the whole elite 4 with updated teams. I disagree with the Sevii Isles slander. Yours sincerely a grumpy 30 year old Pokemon veteran
@@allstarcom0615they’re faithful remakes of the original that aren’t broken as hell like the originals and has a bunch of QOL updates. I couldn’t ask for much more
You can still use Moltres against the Elite Four on your first run in FR/LG. You gain access to the first three of the Sevii Isles after beating Blaine and getting your 7th badge, and Mt. Ember is on One Island with nothing to stop you from going there and catching Moltres.
You actually get to use Moltres against a gym in FRLG, instead of just against the Elite Four (also it's weak to Ice in RBY since Fire didn't resist Ice)
The fact that FRLG actually function and don't have so many mechanics broken alone makes them superior to RB&G. The original games were held together with spit and duct tape and were notoriously buggy. The fact is that it's a good thing that the first remakes of older games are the worst remakes as all the others improve upon them, except BDSP literally being remasters of D&P
The biggest thing I hated in FR/LG was how the fossil pokemon start at level 5, Getting aerodactyl in red and blue is an immediate ass kicking machine despite that he could have a better move set in gen 1
I definitely think they're much better, and the sort of starting point you'd send someone who's never played a Kanto game before. Gen 1 games just have too many problems that are inexcusable, even for its time. You literally can't play through the game without a glitch popping off, because it's that broken. I'm not even talking about MissingNo on Cinnabar Island surfing, I'm talking something that's unavoidable entirely: The Badge Boost Glitch, for example. Whether or not you are aware of it, doesn't change the fact that after getting a single badge, and then having your stats altered in battle by something like Sand-Attack, which happens a lot, you get continuous stat boosts from the badges, making the game glitch in your favour nearly every battle. The amount of broken things like that in Gen 1, making it literally impossible to avoid any in a normal playthrough, is reason enough alone to send someone straight to FireRed. Nevermind the quality of life improvements like a categorized bag and running shoes; being able to actually play the game normally, without anything going wrong, is the best selling point!
to be fair the reason why you can't finish Gen 1 without glitches even if you were extraordinarely lucky is because they used the wrong cry for a Pokemon in a cutscene, so it's unavoidable, out of your control. I think it _could_ potentially be beaten without encountering a glitch otherwise, purely hypothetically.
@@robertlupa8273 Nah it'd glitches like the Badge Boost glitch as well. Unless you're soft resetting every time a stat change occurs in battle (which happens a lot with trainers spamming things like Tail Whip and Sand Attack), every battle post Brock is glitched.
@@joemck85 it exists in ORAS though which is nice. There's definitely reason to play both while no version is definitively better than the other, unlike frlg and yellow.
Red and blue is better it feels more grown up I like the sprites better how the Pokémon look like they are going to attack you (most of them) and the bigger the Pokémon are they fill up the whole box where as in newer games they look like they are saying hello and the big Pokémon don’t fill up the box they look smaller …… I prefer the old tile style rather than the new ones ….. gen 2 tiles were peak and after that it went more babyish I still think gen 2 is the best games of all but I just wish they made a whole johto game instead of half johto half kanto Then again I think Pokemon colloseum has the best art style of all I wish they made darker games like that and XD…. That was the route Pokemon should have took dark and gritty towns with people up to no good
Absolutely. Red and blue is whatever for the most part, but yellow is a beast. For one thing, the availability of Pokemon in yellow is considerably different than either fire red and leaf green. You get all 3 starters, you get Chansey outside of safari zone, you also get Oddish, Bellsprout, Scyther, and Pinsir in one game, lastly lickitung is a repeatable catch, not just a one time trade, same as farfetched. There's also the following Pikachu that gives the experience itself a lot more personality, and the Pikachu's beach mini game is immediately available in the virtual console version, speaking of which, the VC version has hidden abilities when you transfer to gen 7, and has easier connectivity to newer gens than gen 3. There's also the LRT glitch in rby that allows you to get every Pokemon in the game without trading.
Thee will be a few who have developed a fondness for the problems Gen 1 has and nostalgia but it’s gonna be a pretty small group and this video didn’t really give a good perspective on it tbh, was disappointed
The remake is better. Better balanced moves. Replay trainers and even gives more variety to your battles. The gen 1 games are so flat and broken. It's why I want gen 1 mons to get evos so when we get a re re re re re remake we can have kanto with new mons instead
Seriously, we've had _TWO_ Kanto remakes by now and neither of them allow you to get later-gen evolutions before postgame _(or at all in Let's Go's case)._ Not even the friendship ones, which was handled in kind of a stupid way.
Red Blue Green Yellow has been outclassed by Fire Red and Leaf Green post game and set up the standard for Rom Games too. Let's Go was too much of Pokémon Go the Game. Still Fire Red and Leaf Green had changed everything in Pokémon in general.
Are Blue and Red better? From a mechanical standpoint, no. Looking at movesets, no. (Although it was fun having a 90% accurate Blizzard.) But to me, FireRed and LeafGreen seem... sterile? Not only with the cleaned up visuals, but they also feel unambitious compared to Ruby and Sapphire. No clock, no secret bases, no team battles that I can remember, and additionally no returning day/night feature from Gold & Silver. I am also not a fan of the music, in particular with how incohesive the trainer and boss themes sound.
I would say it kind of depends on what you’re looking for. As someone who grew up with the series, I’m more likely to go back to Gen 1. I do think if you’re looking to complete the original pokedex, it’s better to do it in Gen 1. The original sprites are iconic and look more like monsters than the remakes do. Also, if you’re looking to battle friends noncompetively, I’d do Gen 1 as well. I like the idea of DV and the team you raised being stronger than wild Pokémon so you don’t have to worry about breeding or anything to get the right EV/ IVs, plus you can plug into Pokémon stadium. If you want a regular run through or nuzlocke, I’d probably do the remakes. It looks better, has less weird mechanics (99% crit moves), and there are some quality of life changes that do make a difference.
It would be a big step up. But I try not to knock or talk bad about gen 1 😅 we all gotta start somewhere right? I had fun with gen 1 when I was in 7th grade. But the later games improved on everything
Comparing Gen 1 and the Gen 3 remakes is like comparing apples & oranges. You can’t, and you shouldn’t because it’s an unfair comparison. Without Gen 1, you wouldn’t have the franchise as a whole. The Gen 3 remakes definitely adds some quality of life improvements and mechanics from R/S/E, but that doesn’t mean that it invalidates Gen 1. Both are fun for their own reasons, and both are still great to play to this day.
As a kid it was extremely fun putting hours in to beat the original red and blue and bragging to friends that i did it. Of course the remakes are better but they will never be able to replace the nostalgic feeling of accomplishment when being crowned champion and capturing mewtwo like in the originals. Red and blue are the reason we have everything that we have now and that itself puts it on tier nonother games can match.
Not gonna lie, there's a lot of fun things about gen 1 that you may miss if you don't play it: Like Beedrill-type moves being good And the player getting bolt-beam + Rock Slide for free Mimic letting you choose which move you copy Fire not resisting Ice Ponyta and Magmar being available before Blaine instead of after Crits depending on base Speed
Gen 1 > Gen 3 imo. If I want to play old Kanto, I want to abuse Psychic, OP Blizzard, crit mechanics, Badge Boost Exploits and alike. If I want updated mechanics, I'll play a later game, like ORAS or LGPE
It's not a exploit it's a feature 😂 at least I get something good for collecting those things. I didn't even used all the TMs the gym leaders gave me. Having the ability for your pokemon to able you 🤔 I didn't know that until gen 2. I was like, "why isn't it following my orders?" I just thought it was going berserk. It would only stop when it's health was in the red. I was over leveling like I do in every RPG. A new kinda confusion move that lasts a long time. I never read anywhere in gen 1 or 2 where someone tells me about it. Or I missed it 😂 I looked it up.
Depends on the context. Overall gameplay and team building/customization: frlg, for speedruning categories, and glitch showcasing, og's kind of turning a bad thing into a good thing.
I’d say Red and Blue were more adventure and research based games to learn about the Pokémon, same with Gold and Silver learning about eggs, also day and night Pokémon and evolution. The discoveries were amazing!
Some moves worked better in Gen 1 (Slash / Karate Chop) making it much easier to raise certain Pokémon. Some moves got worse by changing type causing the Pokémon that learned them to become mediocre till much later gens. Some moves stayed about the same despite changing typing.
I grew up with gen 1 but FRLG are better in every single conceivable way. They deserve the same sort of recognition RE gets even. I dint think a comparison can even kind of be made.
one of my biggest things is that the music in Gen 1 Kanto is light years better. To me, most the highs of the music are more impactful in the Gen 1 Kanto and it just feels almost like they butchered the music when I go back and try to play FR/LG
Well... -Improved UI (faster, more organized and detailed), Items becoming much less tedious due to more space and multiple bag slots -Extended battle mechanics (Steel and Dark Types, Special Attack and Defense, Natures, EV/IV, Held Items, Abilities) -Genders, Shiny Pokemon, different Poke Ball types... -Far better move distribution thanks to breeding and move tutors, as well as TMs being easier to obtain -Postgame allows you to have over 230 new Pokemon on your game as well as connectivity with RSE and Colosseum/XD -Elite 4 rematch; VS Seeker for regular trainer rematches; Trainer Hill gives way more battles before and after the main story -Graphics are objectively better, cleaner and more consistent. That "charm" from some sprites was just artists being better than others -Breeding allows to get more than one "rare" Pokemon such as starters, fossils, Hitmon, Eevee, etc. -Besides Sevii Islands, you also get Fame Check which gives further information from multiple important characters -Other nice bonuses like Sevii Island minigames, Braggart and team stickers on Trainer Card, E-Reader content (for those 3 fellas who used it) Other than music (which is very subjective) and maybe Moltres not being in Victory Road (but rather on its own place, which makes it feel more like the other birds), I don't see how RGBY are "superior" in any way. It also lacked Ribbons, Contests and a Day/Night cycle, but for being the first remakes they did things pretty well.
I had nostalgia glasses on for Red/Blue/Yellow thinking I liked them over FR/LG. But man last year I started on a living dex replayed all of the games back to back starting with Gen 1 and MAN is Gen 1 and 2 brutal to play nowadays. If I was doing it for fun I wouldn't ever touch anything before Gen 3 again, unless maybe for some good ROM hacks.
Gen 1 was worse then gen 2 by a mile. Play pokemon crystal clear. It's an awesome open world gen 2 game that combine the gen 1 & 2 games into one. With a character maker. And the quality of life improvements from later games too. The starter pokemon poll is way better & bigger too.
One thing I can say is that both versions allow the player to experience Kanto in completely different way. Gen 1 has so many unique quirks that just the fact of transitioning to gen 3 battle mechanics drastically changes how you might play the game from team building perspective. This alone completely changes how a player aproaches the game. The crit mechanic of gen 1 alone is a huge game changer, making Pokemon like Raticate and Persian early/mid game menaces in gen 1, while in gen 3, you'll probably pass on them.
Objectively, FR and LG are better. But the originals have a a special je ne sais quoi. The music feels better in the older versions, specially stuff like Lavender Town and the original route 1 music. Also, glitches are by this point a part of the game, especially missingno, mew and the oak battle and they’re gone from gen3. And also, sometimes Gen3 feels too “bland”. I’ve never had this feeling with gen1.
I remember I was SO pissed when I found out FRLG didn't reference Johto so much. One example: the Network Machine in One Island specifically talks about "Kanto and Hoenn", and nothing else. I understand why: there was no way to connect FRLG to Gen II games, but still it sounded off to me. I can't actually remember a single NPC that talks about something involving Johto (I may be wrong here tho) except for Gideon. At least we had Johto's tracks in the post-game Sevii Islands.
I didn't think about it. Will, it wasn't in the og ones 🤔 I was thinking it was just going to be a makeover. Better graphics & what not 🤷🏾♀️I don't even remember the post game. I remembered gen 2 post game 😁 I was shocked. I don't even remember those islands. I remembered orange island from the show... I hated that season. I wanted more fights not mini games.
I’m an O.G. Gen 1 player from 1996 red & blue and I’ve played all the Pokémon games and FireRed is my absolute favorite period. Only second is SoulSilver, that is peak Pokémon on handheld in my opinion.
I had and played the original when it first came out , actually the reason I bought a gameboy. I got red a very difficult decision for a 10 year old . Now that I am middle age father the fire red and leaf green are amazing remakes and I could only infants playing something like that back then. All in all the remakes are so much better.
Imma level with you. I dont like Fire Red and Leaf Green. Prefered the originals to that. That being said I think it is nostalgia. Because I do not like any gen 1 remakes outside the originals. Most things people dont like, i enjoy deeply. Mainly those sprites. They just had so much character to them. And it is so true hoe similar it felt to hoenn. It just didnt feel like Kanto too me. It just felt like a Hoenn reskin
And there's nothing wrong with that 👍🏾 I prefer the gen 3 remakes. But it's a blessing gen 1 was made. I had way more fun playing them. Because there wasn't a game like that on the market. When gen 3 came out... I already knew what to do. I was speeding though it. It was as special as gen 1. Your first time doing something will always be the best. After playing like 8 different Pokemon games before the gen 3 remakes 😑 you already know the does & don'ts of the system. It wasn't as magical or unknown. But that could be said about any series.
Red, Blue, and Yellow we're great at the time, but looking back at it shows how unbalanced the games we're compared to newer games. Going over how Red, Blue, and Yellow battling mechanics could be it's own video.
If we’re strictly talking remakes then it’d go: hg/ss, fr/lg, bd/sp. remakes are great but the nostalgia from the originals can never be matched. I remember as a kid I was always playing the original games for kanto and johto
I know this is random, but I would love to see a video where ash managed to catch a pokemon of each typer per region. If a pokemon has a type combo like palpitate being water and ground then that would count for his water and ground type pokemon.
I liked Fire Red/Leaf Green but in my opinion, they could have done more with them. They did add the lackluster Sevii Islands so it's not a strict beat-for-beat remake. Gen 2 for all its faults had an impressive amount of content, having two regions. If they could do it with technology back then, they could do it in Gen 3 too. Imagine visiting Johto as Kanto's post game. It would even fit the concept of GSC being a sequel of Gen 1 as intended. It would also add Gen 2 'mons in Gen 3 in a less awkward way. But even if we don't go that wild with it, still, the game deserved a better post game than that awkward addition of Sevii islands right before the 8th badge. I mean that's not even post game.
I have to give it to the remakes. The Pokémon have more factors making each one more unique I love that Magnemite and Magneton are Electric/Steel type).
FR/LG are objectively better games, but for me nostalgia wins out. If I'm looking for the single best gameplay experience I'll play SS/HG, but for me atleast, Kanto doesn't really hit the same in color. I think had FR/LG been made alongside SS/HG with the special split and even better movesets, it would truly be a perfect remake.
I remember leaf green was my first ever purchase for myself along with a nintendo ds and i never regretted that. I also played red the most of any game probably. But for me fr/lg was definitely better. They just expanded everything that made the original fun. 😊
My brother played red but i didn't play until leaf green. It was his gb pocket after all. I am fine to have waited though because green is my favorite color.
I do like the interconnectivity of the Gen 3 games, such as being able to beat the Kanto Elite 4 with my Swampert from Sapphire, Jirachi from Channel, Ho-oh from Colosseum and Lugia from XD. Gen 3 Kanto felt like it was part of a wider Pokémon world (minus Johto 😅)
The answer is simple: compared to the games back then and through the lense of nostalgie the classic red/blue easily wins. When viewed in hindsight and when you haven't experienced the orignals then fire red and leaf green take the cake
I think it depends on wether you like the Original or the more balanced remakes and how I would rank the remakes 1, Heartgold and soulSilver 2, Firered and Leafgreen 3, Omega Ruby and Alpha Saphire 4, Brilliant diamond and Shining Pearl.
When you talked about how in the original games, how when you defeat all of the trainers, it feels like there is nothing left to do and the game is left in “limbo” like you said… I did not like this at all when I was a kid, so I actually felt more comfortable resetting the game and starting over rather than keeping it like that
No joke 😞 I was like, "i seriously can't remake anyone." That was the most disappointing part of the game. There was nothing to do after you beat Mewtwo. I caught all of Gen 1 Pokemon. I thought something special was going to happen. But no no , I got a piece of paper I could print. And I never caught them all again 😠 in any pokemon game.
Honestly i felt like FRLG felt wayyyy different than RSE. Hell even emerald feels different than the other 2 Hoenn games. I grew up playing RBY in the late 90s but I'll always prefer gen 3 Kanto. That said my best childhood memories were in gen 1, being five years old and getting lost in that world. Five year old me spent 1 month getting though rock tunnel. Just very involved. Also side note i love the sevii islands. Honestly when i had RSE, FR and XD gale of darkness with a gamecube and access to two gameboys and a link cable it was fun af. Idk i got really nostalgic back in 2013 and tried to complete my gen 3 dex. Life gets in the way tho. Now i just play gen 3 OU shoutout to jimothy cool lol
Fixing the extremely flawed combat in gen 1 makes FR/LG objectively easier. The combat is disgusting in Gen 1 especially psychic types, special stat, and the speed based crit system. The vs seeker, held items and abilities, better exp share, the bag/items being better, and sevii islands are also good reasons.
Yeah it was easier by a mile. But, I am that dude who fights everything 😅 but no joke, gen 1 felt harder. Maybe it was because I wasn't exp with the series before. But I blow pass gen 3 remakes like it was nothing at all. I guess I also go better at RPGs too. I didn't used up my time getting pokemon I wasn't going to used too 😂
LeafGreen was my first pokemon game but diamond was my first true "i know what I'm doing now" pokemon game. I probably got lost in leafgreen for days at points lol but platinum was my fav one. I dropped off of pokemon before gen 5 landed and didn't come back til the switch so platinum is like the magnum opus of 2D pokemon to me. Only true flaws in my eyes are hms and lack of fire types
Gyarados was a bad example for a Pokemon that got better because of an ability. Intimidate is awesome, but the single special stat made Gyarados wayyyyy better in Gen 1
FrLg are fixed with either FRLG Plus or using ACE to bypass trading restrictions and locking you out of Gen 2 evolutions like your Crobat and Scizor. If you pretend FrLG are just gen 1 you see that parts of Gen 3 dont translate well. Posion on the overworld for example leads to a ton of back tracking and you see it alot with posion point being on both Nidos and Weedle's posion sting which is abundant in the early game pre running shoes. I am playing FRLG Plus which is a legitimacy hack so it encouraged you to trade with RSE Colo/XD and its probably gonna be my main gen 3 file I am gonna put everything onto because of how it addressed issues in Gen 3 Kanto while not making another Radical Red or a complete dex hack.
I think Gen 1 is the more interesting game, but FR/LG are better Pokémon games. I kinda prefer the uniqueness of the first Pokémon games. It plays more like a normal jrpg, with normal type moves being your average "attack" command, and other type moves being more like "magic".
I really don't care for the let's go games 😑 I like to battle Pokemon before I caught them. That way I can see how strong they are before I used up a pokemon ball. If they can barely take a hit; I don't want them. I'll look for a stronger one of the same kind who can. I always caught like 4 or 5 of the same kind. Then I'm looking at their player card to see how strong they are & move list. Having to use a pokemon ball before I can meter then in battle is a nightmare in my mind. Besides, I like fighting in RPGs. Removing random battles are a no no for me. I would understand having the option to turn them off & on over what the let's go games did. Or just give me the option to battle them.
If you put it from that perspective I wonder if this is what the Paper Mario the thousand year door remake is going to look like compared to the original gamecube version released nearly 20 years ago that I never got to play due to me being a 6 year old only interested in pokemon games and didn’t own a GameCube until the special edition for xd gale of darkness one came out and the only two games I played on it was that and smash bros melee and I was around 7 or 8 years old when I started playing the GameCube and my method of training pokemon and team building and a bunch of other things have evolved since then anyway back on my main point the thousand year door on the GameCube was a great game but the biggest complaint was the backtracking and while the remake didn’t remove the backtracking entirely they definitely made it more bearable and like you said the graphics have definitely evolved since then but aside from a few new boss fights and an art gallery and soundtrack list they didn’t add much to differentiate between the original except make the backtracking easier and I’m wondering if people are going to even remember the original GameCube version even existed even by Paper Mario veterans after a while
Honestly my two issues with FRLG is: - that they moved Nidoran to route 3 even though with Double Kick and the Male one's Peck, it would have been great for Viridian Forest and the battle against Brock. -The Evo lock and lack of type variety. Would anyone really have complained if Golbat evolved into crobat or if Hoenn/Johto/brand new Pokemon were added to the Kanto dex?
I absolutely loved FRLG when they came out, but I prefer RBY now. Sure, RBY have their problems, but any drawbacks are pretty exaggerated in the fandom. FRLG just feels like rearranged scraps of RSE. Mystic Umbreon was right to point out that the graphic design is virtually identical between the games. The sound too is underwhelming, given how impressive some GBA games sound (even if GBA sound has a certain irritating scratchiness to them). RBY did a much better job utilizing the Gameboy’s limited sound pallet. The contrast afforded by the limitations tend to make battle themes in particular more dynamic. On the whole, FRLG feel kind of phoned in. Not to say they’re bad, but they just feel basic, and the start of GameFreak doing the bare minimum. Compare that to RBY where it’s obvious they pushed the cartridge to its limits. I just honestly feel like they should have just made new games instead of remaking old ones. It would have made the GBA generation a little more special.
For me it’s the simplicity of that first generation that a remake wasn’t going to capture. Also I’ll take 8 bit music over squeaky dying animal noises and higher pitch
For someone who grew up playing the original series, Fire Red/Leaf Green takes the crown.
I'd agree, fr/lg takes the cake but pokemon stadium was addition to gen 1 and 2
As someone who played the originals FR/LG having color alone was a far superior experience.
I mean okay, but you know we also have Yellow for that, don’t you?
That’s also why I wondered why people used to buy Red and Blue instead of Yellow when they came out on Virtual Console.
Meh I loved playing blue in my snes using the Gameboy player and getting color and cool borders that way :) @@davion4777
@@davion4777Yellow was technically how the game implemented the adventure from anime counterparts, most of Gym Leaders are lots easier and less challenging tbh, which is why most people outright just bought R/G/B instead
@@jean-pierrebenzenique yellow was not easier than red and blue lol
@@davion4777 Japanese yellow on virtual console is emulated on a regular gameboy which means it's void of color. Is that crazy or what?
To quote that robot from I Robot, "No."
To quote the chimp from Planet of the Apes, "No."
You're objectively wrong.
I don’t know about anyone else but the Sevii isles for me as a kid were always fun. I always likened them to the Kanto postgame in GSC.
I would rearrange my whole team with Jhoto Pokémon not to mention the Islands are like their own region with events, story and rematches for the whole elite 4 with updated teams.
I disagree with the Sevii Isles slander.
Yours sincerely a grumpy 30 year old Pokemon veteran
Nah,Firered and Leafgreen did evolve from Red,Blue,and Yellow.
Not really FireRed and Leafgreen were terrible
@@allstarcom0615I just finished and it’s FR/LG are decent. They’re solid starts to playing pokemon again but nothing remarkable.
Blissey evolves from Chansey and is worse than it so
@@allstarcom0615they’re faithful remakes of the original that aren’t broken as hell like the originals and has a bunch of QOL updates. I couldn’t ask for much more
@@allstarcom0615 That's just wrong. Gen 1 was broken and buggy as hell.
You can still use Moltres against the Elite Four on your first run in FR/LG. You gain access to the first three of the Sevii Isles after beating Blaine and getting your 7th badge, and Mt. Ember is on One Island with nothing to stop you from going there and catching Moltres.
I actually think the game gives you a few opportunities to stay to explore the islands while you are there.
You actually get to use Moltres against a gym in FRLG, instead of just against the Elite Four (also it's weak to Ice in RBY since Fire didn't resist Ice)
1:43 Ah yes, I remember when FireRed and LeafGreen gave Charmander "Steel" Claw. Great for Brock.
Metal Claw?
@@MatthewG1247 Yes, but Mystic mistakenly said Steel Claw.
Honestly, those rocks burnt pretty good and it did decent damage with ember
@@stofel8822 Their special defense is really low, so special fire attacks are deceptively good, even though resisted.
A lot of this seems like it just comes down to how strong an individual's nostalgia is.
The fact that FRLG actually function and don't have so many mechanics broken alone makes them superior to RB&G. The original games were held together with spit and duct tape and were notoriously buggy. The fact is that it's a good thing that the first remakes of older games are the worst remakes as all the others improve upon them, except BDSP literally being remasters of D&P
You have no idea how much better gen 1 is with the bugs.
BDSP would be infinitely better if they actually were just remasters.
@@rpgfanatic9719 They're definitely a legitimate reason to play Gen 1 over the remakes, however I'd say FRLG are still better overall.
@@robertlupa8273 there are countless reasons to play gen 1 over 3
The biggest thing I hated in FR/LG was how the fossil pokemon start at level 5, Getting aerodactyl in red and blue is an immediate ass kicking machine despite that he could have a better move set in gen 1
I definitely think they're much better, and the sort of starting point you'd send someone who's never played a Kanto game before. Gen 1 games just have too many problems that are inexcusable, even for its time. You literally can't play through the game without a glitch popping off, because it's that broken. I'm not even talking about MissingNo on Cinnabar Island surfing, I'm talking something that's unavoidable entirely: The Badge Boost Glitch, for example. Whether or not you are aware of it, doesn't change the fact that after getting a single badge, and then having your stats altered in battle by something like Sand-Attack, which happens a lot, you get continuous stat boosts from the badges, making the game glitch in your favour nearly every battle. The amount of broken things like that in Gen 1, making it literally impossible to avoid any in a normal playthrough, is reason enough alone to send someone straight to FireRed. Nevermind the quality of life improvements like a categorized bag and running shoes; being able to actually play the game normally, without anything going wrong, is the best selling point!
to be fair the reason why you can't finish Gen 1 without glitches even if you were extraordinarely lucky is because they used the wrong cry for a Pokemon in a cutscene, so it's unavoidable, out of your control. I think it _could_ potentially be beaten without encountering a glitch otherwise, purely hypothetically.
@@robertlupa8273 Nah it'd glitches like the Badge Boost glitch as well. Unless you're soft resetting every time a stat change occurs in battle (which happens a lot with trainers spamming things like Tail Whip and Sand Attack), every battle post Brock is glitched.
FR/LG will always be my go to for Kanto
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Day/Night cycles were in RSE cuz you can evolve Eevee into Espeon/Umbreon in RSE
Yeah, just not visually, which felt like a downgrade from GSC.
@@joemck85 it exists in ORAS though which is nice. There's definitely reason to play both while no version is definitively better than the other, unlike frlg and yellow.
If I can't see it 😅 it's not there
Hold up, there are people who consider Gen 1 OBJECTIVELY better than the remakes?
Can't wait to hear their pov lmao it's insanity to me
Yea, those Gen 1 people are like the dad rockers of Pokemon.
Red and blue is better it feels more grown up I like the sprites better how the Pokémon look like they are going to attack you (most of them) and the bigger the Pokémon are they fill up the whole box where as in newer games they look like they are saying hello and the big Pokémon don’t fill up the box they look smaller …… I prefer the old tile style rather than the new ones ….. gen 2 tiles were peak and after that it went more babyish
I still think gen 2 is the best games of all but I just wish they made a whole johto game instead of half johto half kanto
Then again I think Pokemon colloseum has the best art style of all I wish they made darker games like that and XD…. That was the route Pokemon should have took dark and gritty towns with people up to no good
Absolutely.
Red and blue is whatever for the most part, but yellow is a beast. For one thing, the availability of Pokemon in yellow is considerably different than either fire red and leaf green. You get all 3 starters, you get Chansey outside of safari zone, you also get Oddish, Bellsprout, Scyther, and Pinsir in one game, lastly lickitung is a repeatable catch, not just a one time trade, same as farfetched. There's also the following Pikachu that gives the experience itself a lot more personality, and the Pikachu's beach mini game is immediately available in the virtual console version, speaking of which, the VC version has hidden abilities when you transfer to gen 7, and has easier connectivity to newer gens than gen 3.
There's also the LRT glitch in rby that allows you to get every Pokemon in the game without trading.
Thee will be a few who have developed a fondness for the problems Gen 1 has and nostalgia but it’s gonna be a pretty small group and this video didn’t really give a good perspective on it tbh, was disappointed
The remake is better. Better balanced moves. Replay trainers and even gives more variety to your battles.
The gen 1 games are so flat and broken. It's why I want gen 1 mons to get evos so when we get a re re re re re remake we can have kanto with new mons instead
Seriously, we've had _TWO_ Kanto remakes by now and neither of them allow you to get later-gen evolutions before postgame _(or at all in Let's Go's case)._ Not even the friendship ones, which was handled in kind of a stupid way.
Red Blue Green Yellow has been outclassed by Fire Red and Leaf Green post game and set up the standard for Rom Games too. Let's Go was too much of Pokémon Go the Game. Still Fire Red and Leaf Green had changed everything in Pokémon in general.
Are Blue and Red better? From a mechanical standpoint, no. Looking at movesets, no. (Although it was fun having a 90% accurate Blizzard.)
But to me, FireRed and LeafGreen seem... sterile? Not only with the cleaned up visuals, but they also feel unambitious compared to Ruby and Sapphire. No clock, no secret bases, no team battles that I can remember, and additionally no returning day/night feature from Gold & Silver. I am also not a fan of the music, in particular with how incohesive the trainer and boss themes sound.
I would say it kind of depends on what you’re looking for. As someone who grew up with the series, I’m more likely to go back to Gen 1. I do think if you’re looking to complete the original pokedex, it’s better to do it in Gen 1. The original sprites are iconic and look more like monsters than the remakes do. Also, if you’re looking to battle friends noncompetively, I’d do Gen 1 as well. I like the idea of DV and the team you raised being stronger than wild Pokémon so you don’t have to worry about breeding or anything to get the right EV/ IVs, plus you can plug into Pokémon stadium. If you want a regular run through or nuzlocke, I’d probably do the remakes. It looks better, has less weird mechanics (99% crit moves), and there are some quality of life changes that do make a difference.
while overall i do prefer the gen 3 polish, the gen 1 music is way better. GB chiptunes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GBA trying to sound like real orchestra
FR&LG needed a Johto postgame. I'll never understand why they made the Sevii Islands to add Johto pokemon when Johto IS RIGHT THERE!!!!!!
If red and blue had gold and silvers mechanics they'd be perfect games
It would be a big step up. But I try not to knock or talk bad about gen 1 😅 we all gotta start somewhere right? I had fun with gen 1 when I was in 7th grade. But the later games improved on everything
As much as I love gen 3 on the whole, I'll always prefer gen 1 Kanto to gen 3 Kanto (or gen 2 Kanto, or gen 4 Kanto, or gen 7 Kanto lol)
Kanito Kanito 😅 people can't get enough of it.
Comparing Gen 1 and the Gen 3 remakes is like comparing apples & oranges. You can’t, and you shouldn’t because it’s an unfair comparison. Without Gen 1, you wouldn’t have the franchise as a whole. The Gen 3 remakes definitely adds some quality of life improvements and mechanics from R/S/E, but that doesn’t mean that it invalidates Gen 1. Both are fun for their own reasons, and both are still great to play to this day.
100%
That is a complete cope, you are just incapable of admitting that your oh so precious gen 1 is worse than FRLG.
If you like Gen 1 go play Yellow Legacy it's worth it!
As a kid it was extremely fun putting hours in to beat the original red and blue and bragging to friends that i did it. Of course the remakes are better but they will never be able to replace the nostalgic feeling of accomplishment when being crowned champion and capturing mewtwo like in the originals. Red and blue are the reason we have everything that we have now and that itself puts it on tier nonother games can match.
Well it's the very first game. lol They won't think about any balancing changes just yet until any future gen (gen 2) comes out.
Yep, that's why I'm not looking down on it.
Not gonna lie, there's a lot of fun things about gen 1 that you may miss if you don't play it:
Like Beedrill-type moves being good
And the player getting bolt-beam + Rock Slide for free
Mimic letting you choose which move you copy
Fire not resisting Ice
Ponyta and Magmar being available before Blaine instead of after
Crits depending on base Speed
Gen 1 > Gen 3 imo. If I want to play old Kanto, I want to abuse Psychic, OP Blizzard, crit mechanics, Badge Boost Exploits and alike. If I want updated mechanics, I'll play a later game, like ORAS or LGPE
It's not a exploit it's a feature 😂 at least I get something good for collecting those things. I didn't even used all the TMs the gym leaders gave me. Having the ability for your pokemon to able you 🤔 I didn't know that until gen 2. I was like, "why isn't it following my orders?" I just thought it was going berserk. It would only stop when it's health was in the red. I was over leveling like I do in every RPG. A new kinda confusion move that lasts a long time. I never read anywhere in gen 1 or 2 where someone tells me about it. Or I missed it 😂 I looked it up.
I'll admit that Gen1's jankiness kinda has an odd charm to it. But this isn't a contest. FR/LG for sure
The jankiness isn't just a charm, it's a solid point to it, its jank is the reason you can have a mew in your playthrough without having to hack.
@rpgfanatic9719 And? Is that supposed to be a meaningful point? "The game is actually better *because* it's broken" You have 90's kid tinted glasses.
Depends on the context. Overall gameplay and team building/customization: frlg, for speedruning categories, and glitch showcasing, og's kind of turning a bad thing into a good thing.
I’d say Red and Blue were more adventure and research based games to learn about the Pokémon, same with Gold and Silver learning about eggs, also day and night Pokémon and evolution. The discoveries were amazing!
Some moves worked better in Gen 1 (Slash / Karate Chop) making it much easier to raise certain Pokémon. Some moves got worse by changing type causing the Pokémon that learned them to become mediocre till much later gens. Some moves stayed about the same despite changing typing.
I grew up with gen 1 but FRLG are better in every single conceivable way. They deserve the same sort of recognition RE gets even. I dint think a comparison can even kind of be made.
one of my biggest things is that the music in Gen 1 Kanto is light years better. To me, most the highs of the music are more impactful in the Gen 1 Kanto and it just feels almost like they butchered the music when I go back and try to play FR/LG
3 upload in a row!!! ❤❤❤
Yo Mystic, have you checked out Yellow and Crystal Legacy?
You will know very soon lol.
@@MysticUmbreon
Nice! Looking forward to it.
Well...
-Improved UI (faster, more organized and detailed), Items becoming much less tedious due to more space and multiple bag slots
-Extended battle mechanics (Steel and Dark Types, Special Attack and Defense, Natures, EV/IV, Held Items, Abilities)
-Genders, Shiny Pokemon, different Poke Ball types...
-Far better move distribution thanks to breeding and move tutors, as well as TMs being easier to obtain
-Postgame allows you to have over 230 new Pokemon on your game as well as connectivity with RSE and Colosseum/XD
-Elite 4 rematch; VS Seeker for regular trainer rematches; Trainer Hill gives way more battles before and after the main story
-Graphics are objectively better, cleaner and more consistent. That "charm" from some sprites was just artists being better than others
-Breeding allows to get more than one "rare" Pokemon such as starters, fossils, Hitmon, Eevee, etc.
-Besides Sevii Islands, you also get Fame Check which gives further information from multiple important characters
-Other nice bonuses like Sevii Island minigames, Braggart and team stickers on Trainer Card, E-Reader content (for those 3 fellas who used it)
Other than music (which is very subjective) and maybe Moltres not being in Victory Road (but rather on its own place, which makes it feel more like the other birds), I don't see how RGBY are "superior" in any way. It also lacked Ribbons, Contests and a Day/Night cycle, but for being the first remakes they did things pretty well.
0:10 I think you meant the other way around
I had nostalgia glasses on for Red/Blue/Yellow thinking I liked them over FR/LG. But man last year I started on a living dex replayed all of the games back to back starting with Gen 1 and MAN is Gen 1 and 2 brutal to play nowadays. If I was doing it for fun I wouldn't ever touch anything before Gen 3 again, unless maybe for some good ROM hacks.
Gen 1 was worse then gen 2 by a mile. Play pokemon crystal clear. It's an awesome open world gen 2 game that combine the gen 1 & 2 games into one. With a character maker. And the quality of life improvements from later games too. The starter pokemon poll is way better & bigger too.
One thing I can say is that both versions allow the player to experience Kanto in completely different way. Gen 1 has so many unique quirks that just the fact of transitioning to gen 3 battle mechanics drastically changes how you might play the game from team building perspective. This alone completely changes how a player aproaches the game. The crit mechanic of gen 1 alone is a huge game changer, making Pokemon like Raticate and Persian early/mid game menaces in gen 1, while in gen 3, you'll probably pass on them.
Objectively, FR and LG are better. But the originals have a a special je ne sais quoi. The music feels better in the older versions, specially stuff like Lavender Town and the original route 1 music. Also, glitches are by this point a part of the game, especially missingno, mew and the oak battle and they’re gone from gen3. And also, sometimes Gen3 feels too “bland”. I’ve never had this feeling with gen1.
In my college everyone started with FRLG meanwhile i started with RBY
I remember I was SO pissed when I found out FRLG didn't reference Johto so much. One example: the Network Machine in One Island specifically talks about "Kanto and Hoenn", and nothing else. I understand why: there was no way to connect FRLG to Gen II games, but still it sounded off to me. I can't actually remember a single NPC that talks about something involving Johto (I may be wrong here tho) except for Gideon. At least we had Johto's tracks in the post-game Sevii Islands.
I didn't think about it. Will, it wasn't in the og ones 🤔 I was thinking it was just going to be a makeover. Better graphics & what not 🤷🏾♀️I don't even remember the post game. I remembered gen 2 post game 😁 I was shocked. I don't even remember those islands. I remembered orange island from the show... I hated that season. I wanted more fights not mini games.
I’m an O.G. Gen 1 player from 1996 red & blue and I’ve played all the Pokémon games and FireRed is my absolute favorite period. Only second is SoulSilver, that is peak Pokémon on handheld in my opinion.
Keep up the awesome work and videos love the video
I had and played the original when it first came out , actually the reason I bought a gameboy. I got red a very difficult decision for a 10 year old . Now that I am middle age father the fire red and leaf green are amazing remakes and I could only infants playing something like that back then. All in all the remakes are so much better.
Imma level with you.
I dont like Fire Red and Leaf Green. Prefered the originals to that.
That being said I think it is nostalgia. Because I do not like any gen 1 remakes outside the originals. Most things people dont like, i enjoy deeply. Mainly those sprites. They just had so much character to them.
And it is so true hoe similar it felt to hoenn. It just didnt feel like Kanto too me. It just felt like a Hoenn reskin
And there's nothing wrong with that 👍🏾 I prefer the gen 3 remakes. But it's a blessing gen 1 was made. I had way more fun playing them. Because there wasn't a game like that on the market. When gen 3 came out... I already knew what to do. I was speeding though it. It was as special as gen 1. Your first time doing something will always be the best. After playing like 8 different Pokemon games before the gen 3 remakes 😑 you already know the does & don'ts of the system. It wasn't as magical or unknown. But that could be said about any series.
Red, Blue, and Yellow we're great at the time, but looking back at it shows how unbalanced the games we're compared to newer games.
Going over how Red, Blue, and Yellow battling mechanics could be it's own video.
If we’re strictly talking remakes then it’d go: hg/ss, fr/lg, bd/sp. remakes are great but the nostalgia from the originals can never be matched. I remember as a kid I was always playing the original games for kanto and johto
I know this is random, but I would love to see a video where ash managed to catch a pokemon of each typer per region. If a pokemon has a type combo like palpitate being water and ground then that would count for his water and ground type pokemon.
I liked Fire Red/Leaf Green but in my opinion, they could have done more with them. They did add the lackluster Sevii Islands so it's not a strict beat-for-beat remake. Gen 2 for all its faults had an impressive amount of content, having two regions. If they could do it with technology back then, they could do it in Gen 3 too. Imagine visiting Johto as Kanto's post game. It would even fit the concept of GSC being a sequel of Gen 1 as intended. It would also add Gen 2 'mons in Gen 3 in a less awkward way. But even if we don't go that wild with it, still, the game deserved a better post game than that awkward addition of Sevii islands right before the 8th badge. I mean that's not even post game.
Pokémon Blue might be the best game EVER
Love them both, but firered and LeafGreen are a bit better I think, but love them both, still play them both.
1:45 steal claw 😂😂😂
I feel like the gitch Pokémon and glitch city makes the originals feel endless.
And heck with the limited items in gen 1's bag
I have to give it to the remakes. The Pokémon have more factors making each one more unique I love that Magnemite and Magneton are Electric/Steel type).
Gen 1 easily. Its my childhood. Its the start. Its got all the nostalgia
FireRed& LeafGreen are my default Gen1 games
Same! They’re about what I consider to be the oldest you can play while still having a solid experience.
Frlg are gen 3
i agree - even if i can't put my finger on why. interesting food for thought
Fire red and leaf green got lit champion theme
FR/LG are objectively better games, but for me nostalgia wins out. If I'm looking for the single best gameplay experience I'll play SS/HG, but for me atleast, Kanto doesn't really hit the same in color. I think had FR/LG been made alongside SS/HG with the special split and even better movesets, it would truly be a perfect remake.
I remember leaf green was my first ever purchase for myself along with a nintendo ds and i never regretted that. I also played red the most of any game probably. But for me fr/lg was definitely better. They just expanded everything that made the original fun. 😊
FRLG are better than Gen 1 minus Yellow in every single way.
My brother played red but i didn't play until leaf green. It was his gb pocket after all. I am fine to have waited though because green is my favorite color.
Red and blue will forever be the best with how broken and easy it is to manipulate the game.
I do like the interconnectivity of the Gen 3 games, such as being able to beat the Kanto Elite 4 with my Swampert from Sapphire, Jirachi from Channel, Ho-oh from Colosseum and Lugia from XD. Gen 3 Kanto felt like it was part of a wider Pokémon world (minus Johto 😅)
FR and LG are examples of what remakes are for, improving the original titles. Something completely ignored by the industry and gamers today
The answer is simple: compared to the games back then and through the lense of nostalgie the classic red/blue easily wins. When viewed in hindsight and when you haven't experienced the orignals then fire red and leaf green take the cake
Am I the only one who loved the sevi islands story?
I play both regularly. Both great.
I think it depends on wether you like the Original or the more balanced remakes and how I would rank the remakes 1, Heartgold and soulSilver 2, Firered and Leafgreen 3, Omega Ruby and Alpha Saphire 4, Brilliant diamond and Shining Pearl.
When you talked about how in the original games, how when you defeat all of the trainers, it feels like there is nothing left to do and the game is left in “limbo” like you said… I did not like this at all when I was a kid, so I actually felt more comfortable resetting the game and starting over rather than keeping it like that
No joke 😞 I was like, "i seriously can't remake anyone." That was the most disappointing part of the game. There was nothing to do after you beat Mewtwo. I caught all of Gen 1 Pokemon. I thought something special was going to happen. But no no , I got a piece of paper I could print. And I never caught them all again 😠 in any pokemon game.
Mystic Umbreon you should do top ten Pokemon city themes.
Honestly i felt like FRLG felt wayyyy different than RSE. Hell even emerald feels different than the other 2 Hoenn games. I grew up playing RBY in the late 90s but I'll always prefer gen 3 Kanto. That said my best childhood memories were in gen 1, being five years old and getting lost in that world. Five year old me spent 1 month getting though rock tunnel. Just very involved.
Also side note i love the sevii islands. Honestly when i had RSE, FR and XD gale of darkness with a gamecube and access to two gameboys and a link cable it was fun af. Idk i got really nostalgic back in 2013 and tried to complete my gen 3 dex. Life gets in the way tho. Now i just play gen 3 OU shoutout to jimothy cool lol
Tell me my Charizard with Swords Dance+Earthquake+BodySlam+Flamethrower has a problem lmao
Fixing the extremely flawed combat in gen 1 makes FR/LG objectively easier. The combat is disgusting in Gen 1 especially psychic types, special stat, and the speed based crit system.
The vs seeker, held items and abilities, better exp share, the bag/items being better, and sevii islands are also good reasons.
Yeah it was easier by a mile. But, I am that dude who fights everything 😅 but no joke, gen 1 felt harder. Maybe it was because I wasn't exp with the series before. But I blow pass gen 3 remakes like it was nothing at all. I guess I also go better at RPGs too. I didn't used up my time getting pokemon I wasn't going to used too 😂
I agree with everything you said 😅 my comment went off the track
LeafGreen was my first pokemon game but diamond was my first true "i know what I'm doing now" pokemon game. I probably got lost in leafgreen for days at points lol but platinum was my fav one. I dropped off of pokemon before gen 5 landed and didn't come back til the switch so platinum is like the magnum opus of 2D pokemon to me. Only true flaws in my eyes are hms and lack of fire types
I grew up with pokemon Fire Red instead of the originals
Gyarados was a bad example for a Pokemon that got better because of an ability. Intimidate is awesome, but the single special stat made Gyarados wayyyyy better in Gen 1
FrLg are fixed with either FRLG Plus or using ACE to bypass trading restrictions and locking you out of Gen 2 evolutions like your Crobat and Scizor. If you pretend FrLG are just gen 1 you see that parts of Gen 3 dont translate well. Posion on the overworld for example leads to a ton of back tracking and you see it alot with posion point being on both Nidos and Weedle's posion sting which is abundant in the early game pre running shoes. I am playing FRLG Plus which is a legitimacy hack so it encouraged you to trade with RSE Colo/XD and its probably gonna be my main gen 3 file I am gonna put everything onto because of how it addressed issues in Gen 3 Kanto while not making another Radical Red or a complete dex hack.
I think Gen 1 is the more interesting game, but FR/LG are better Pokémon games. I kinda prefer the uniqueness of the first Pokémon games. It plays more like a normal jrpg, with normal type moves being your average "attack" command, and other type moves being more like "magic".
I wish i had Pokémon Fire Red / Leaf Green.
Realistically I think the only pokemon games that might've actually improved/replaced the original is maybe Heart Gold and Soul Silver
Sad gen 4 never got a remake
FRLG took away Giovanni’s ace. 😢
I really don't care for the let's go games 😑 I like to battle Pokemon before I caught them. That way I can see how strong they are before I used up a pokemon ball. If they can barely take a hit; I don't want them. I'll look for a stronger one of the same kind who can. I always caught like 4 or 5 of the same kind. Then I'm looking at their player card to see how strong they are & move list. Having to use a pokemon ball before I can meter then in battle is a nightmare in my mind. Besides, I like fighting in RPGs. Removing random battles are a no no for me. I would understand having the option to turn them off & on over what the let's go games did. Or just give me the option to battle them.
If you changed the topic with :
Is RBY with GCS better than FR/LG with RSE? Well, I'll choose RBY...
Big love for gen 3...finally letting us play as green. Will leaf 😅
Red and blue are better because of badge boost glitch and because I can sub an onix for a water stone in the evolution process of those stone evos
If you put it from that perspective I wonder if this is what the Paper Mario the thousand year door remake is going to look like compared to the original gamecube version released nearly 20 years ago that I never got to play due to me being a 6 year old only interested in pokemon games and didn’t own a GameCube until the special edition for xd gale of darkness one came out and the only two games I played on it was that and smash bros melee and I was around 7 or 8 years old when I started playing the GameCube and my method of training pokemon and team building and a bunch of other things have evolved since then anyway back on my main point the thousand year door on the GameCube was a great game but the biggest complaint was the backtracking and while the remake didn’t remove the backtracking entirely they definitely made it more bearable and like you said the graphics have definitely evolved since then but aside from a few new boss fights and an art gallery and soundtrack list they didn’t add much to differentiate between the original except make the backtracking easier and I’m wondering if people are going to even remember the original GameCube version even existed even by Paper Mario veterans after a while
Honestly my two issues with FRLG is:
- that they moved Nidoran to route 3 even though with Double Kick and the Male one's Peck, it would have been great for Viridian Forest and the battle against Brock.
-The Evo lock and lack of type variety. Would anyone really have complained if Golbat evolved into crobat or if Hoenn/Johto/brand new Pokemon were added to the Kanto dex?
Frlg are way better imo
I absolutely loved FRLG when they came out, but I prefer RBY now. Sure, RBY have their problems, but any drawbacks are pretty exaggerated in the fandom.
FRLG just feels like rearranged scraps of RSE. Mystic Umbreon was right to point out that the graphic design is virtually identical between the games.
The sound too is underwhelming, given how impressive some GBA games sound (even if GBA sound has a certain irritating scratchiness to them). RBY did a much better job utilizing the Gameboy’s limited sound pallet. The contrast afforded by the limitations tend to make battle themes in particular more dynamic.
On the whole, FRLG feel kind of phoned in. Not to say they’re bad, but they just feel basic, and the start of GameFreak doing the bare minimum. Compare that to RBY where it’s obvious they pushed the cartridge to its limits.
I just honestly feel like they should have just made new games instead of remaking old ones. It would have made the GBA generation a little more special.
gen 1 sprite are better than the 3D models from modern games
I agree!
The sprites from gen 3 to gen 5 are better. I'm not a fan of 3D pokemon
For me it’s the simplicity of that first generation that a remake wasn’t going to capture. Also I’ll take 8 bit music over squeaky dying animal noises and higher pitch
FRLG is still the best way to enjoy gen 1.
The only thing OG has more charm imo is its music. Kanto ost with gen 3 doesn't fit at all.
Firered & leftgreen copy a ton of stuff from earlier gen 3 games 😅 i was like...oh ok.i noticed that right away. Both was fun...i enjoyed them
Gen 3 is fine, but ive played both and FrLg dont give me any real reason to play them over the ogs.