When Liverpool Was Bad: The “Banter Era” & Their Most CONFUSING Signings
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Liverpool’s “Banter Era” & Their Most CONFUSING Signings | Konchesky, Poulsen & More
Before the Jurgen Klopp revolution at Liveprool, the storied club went through a few hard years with various managers such as Roy Hodgson, Kenny Dalglish and Brendan Rodgers. Even Rafa Benitez’s final season at Liverpool was nothing to be proud of. We’ll look at some of Liverpool’s “Banter Era” signings such as Ousama Assaidi, Christian Poulsen, Andy Carroll (the most expensive Englishman at the time), Paul Konchesky, Charlie Adam and more!
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And Gerrard stayed right up until 2015. True loyalty
Ieuan Richards and left for la
No player in the league meant as much to the club as Stevie g for Liverpool.....a true representation of the club......in England no other player is revered by a set of fans more than Gerrard..(Matt le tissier of Southampton comes close)
someone he could’ve gone to Chelsea but he stayed that’s loyalty. Unlike suares
@@fz7788 Suarez would have to retire early if he stayed, his back would have been crushed if he continued carrying the others like a Uruguayan Maradona.. I don't blame him for moving.
Joel Varghese Thierry Henry for Arsenal
he is a god
Funny how similar this all feels to the state United is currently in...
I think Man Utd are slowly getting out of the bad recruitment era, but are a long way from attracting significant world class talent.
Liverpool has competent owners thougg
Except Man United actually have better players..so it’s like We did bad with bad players and they’re doing bad with good players😂😂
But united at th moment still have arguably wordclass players tho
Tjalling Appelhof we will never be like Scousers ...so Chill ..( yes we are going through some bad shit - but nothing compared to those Deary scanners
Absolute rock bottom was when Hodgson said that Liverpool aren't too big for relegation.......even worse was that i accepted that we would be in a relegation fight.....
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Thanks for reminding us. Been trying to forget that...
David Ngog as the main striker
shivers intensely
A lad I knew was at the derby that season in Goodison. At the time Liverpool were 3rd from bottom and the Everton fans were singing "Going down, going down, going down"
The Liverpool fans replied with "So are we, so are we, so are we"
Now that's banter.
@@szithaanu9934 It's actually funny you say that because we still finished above them at the end of that season, we somehow managed to finish 6th 😂
I stopped going to the pub those days
Two underrated Liverpool players that came to my mind from that so called "Banter Era": Raul Meireles and Maxi Rodriguez. I still remember that amazing goal Meireles scored against Wolves in 2009 or 2010? And Maxi Rodriguez had a nice habit of always scoring lots of goals against Chelsea, which made him stand out for me.
Meireles was a fantastic player, and was voted players player of the season after he signed I believe. But Kenny didn't like him for whatever reason, and would bench him whenever he could ...
That goal was fantastic and it was in january 2011 the last game Torres ever played for Liverpool and his final goal i couldn't get tickets for the game but i watched it from the bridge near the molinyeux
True, Jose Enrique was great too. His one-twos with Suarez and the occasional long ball upfield made for some pretty good football for me when Liverpool were almost unwatchable at times.
Maxi was the hat trick king
Maxi was very good at getting on the end of things in and around the box, something I wish our current midfielders would do a bit more. That group of Maxi, Kuyt, Bellamy and Suarez worked very well together. It was sad when King Kenny decided to break them up.
As a Liverpool fan it feels like shedding skin and to get the left over skin (banter) fully off we need that prem and the left over skin itches like hell I can feel it coming off
I believe it!
josh Burn villa are going through the same thing, we had shit owners and mediocre managers who caused us to be relegated and now where back to being decent enough
josh Burn sorry No Prem Bro ...City will pipe you to it once again 🤣 ( from your Daddy ..A red Devil )
@@ni642 Arent you the one screaming daddy? Your two biggest rivals are always competing for 1st place while you compete for 7th place. I have to give Man U credit for the 1-1 draw with Liverpool though.
Bardock VAR
Fascinating seeing how Liverpool were back in 2010 and where they are now in 2019. It's been a long, bumpy ride for Liverpool fans but I'm sure the journey has been worth it. They can now put their feet up and enjoy the smooth journey into success.
Arsenal are in prime banter era right now... we gotta copy Liverpool ffs
@@sejason56 Absolutely. 😣
@@sejason56 You're doing better than Manchester United and Everton and Tottenham.
@@matthewhernandez8342
Sounds like a backhanded compliment
"smooth" journey to success? We're literally competing with the most well-rounded team the Premier League has seen in City.. a single draw/loss can mean the difference between everything or nothing. If it didn't, we would have won last season with 97 points.
i'm a partizan fan and i can say you that lazar markovic is probably one of the best talents that we produced i dont know how he failed so badly at liverpool.
such a shame for a player of his qualities.
I've heard this before from Partizan fans. I think he was mis-managed to an extent at Liverpool - not being played often enough and in his preferred position. He came into a Liverpool side in transition and after having lost Suarez so it was always going to be tough for him. Rogers seemed to give up on him quickly and no manager since (At Liverpool or his managers on loan) has been able to get a tune out of him.
Overall, his performances on the pitch were disappointing but he did show glimpses of real quality and vision. I think attitude issues may have been a problem for him. Rather than get his head down and work hard he seemed to go into a bit of a sulk. Didn't seem to have the attitude necessary to succeed at the top level. Shame.
Oh, what could have been!
That non-poke, Rodgers stop playing him since. Brenda! Leicester fan thread carefully.
He simply wasn't ready for a club like Liverpool at the time. Should have stayed and developed more another season at Benfica imo.
@@taliamason7986 Yeah I probably agree with this. I still don't think he would have been good enough for one of the top sides, though. In the end, he chose to stay at Liverpool for the money and simply ran his contract down - and in many ways I don't blame him. Basically became a millionaire by doing fuck all. Fair play to him! I'd love to retire financially secure before I'm 25!
@Παναγιώτης Γεωργίου Not always and certainly not at the time. It's been in recent few years they finally got back to winning ways.
Anyone here remember the legendary Jay Spearing. ;)
Aw yeah, I 'member! You 'member the Welsh Xavi, Joe Allen?
I still have therapy for it
Remember him dominating Yaya Toure at Anfield.
he also wasn't a signing. he was an academy product i believe
Yes. True Liverpool lad but not good enough for Premier league. But a solid fella
Back when I used to say "a draw would be so good". Now I can confidently say "we'll win this" even if we're 2 goals down in the 85th minute.
every cab driver in Liverpool has a story of Andy Carrol been drunk and obnoxious
I've seen my team playing Konchesky at Lb...Paulson Jay spearing at midfield...Ngog as striker and fucking Roy Hodgson as the manager 🤣😂.....finally we having the good days now it was all worth it lol
my goodness, those were the days i avoid watching matches...
Crazy how Hendersons overall qualities are still underestimated
I remember being bullied at school for this. They ain't laughing now.
Stevie carried us on his back for years. Legend.
You should turn this into a regular series. 90s Benfica (the Vale e Azevedo and Vilarinho eras) have A LOT of terrible players to cover.
Bro nobody wants to do a video on a bad benfica team
Lol benfica
A Suarez/Torres strike partnership would’ve been amazing, just thinking about it gets me excited! Liverpool definitely would’ve won the league with them 2 up top...
OK Boomer
Nah bro as a Liverpool fan our defense was getting worse over time and Suarez kept doing bad stuff
That era was my childhood; it was rough. Loved the 05 UCL and that one FA and EFL though.
Doesn't sound right when Yanks say banter, always sounds like they're trying too hard
I believe that they're Canucks not Yanks.
@@davidtuttle7556 Oh they're from the Queens Dominions?
@@tomm9963 you could almost hear them restraining their "right ehs"
For me it hurts even more when hearing them pronouncing "derby" as "dahrby" as a brit would
@@kinito992 yep. An E is not an A.
The lack of good sport director, luckily for Liverpool they have a fantastic one now called Michael Edwards...
Who remembers Voronin...😂😂😂
legend
Lord Voronin
He score one of the best goals ever
I rather don''t.
Best no.10
Let this sink in:
ManU in their best period in their history under SAF (26years) was in the CL final 4 times and won 2x.
Liverpool in one of their worst ever period (30years no league title) was in the CL final 4 times and also won 2x.
Just goes to show the ucl isn’t what it’s cracked up to be, winning it has a lot to do with luck. I remember liverpool winning it in 05 and finishing 6th in the league, I’m an arsenal fan and the one time we made a final we barely pipped 4th, we couldn’t do it from 96-04 which is mad.
I agree that there is a luck element to it, however this shows precisely why the UCL is most coveted. 1 bad game can knock you out like barca last year. While in the league consistently beating less good teams who has less resources. Beating the best in the land will always be better than being in a farmers league like PSG
Still no Prem tho...
@@dylanbudiman6714 Except that the Liverpool team since the last two-three years is not in their worst ever period. This Liverpool team is the strongest Liverpool team in the premier league era and arguably one of the strongest Liverpool teams ever. Many ex-Liverpool players have compared the current team to the Liverpool team in the 80s. We would've won the league already if we were not fighting against a really strong Man City side last year.
@@stanleybrhm true that, and i would love it to end this 2020 when we lift the PL title !
I can remember, this period began from the 09/10 season when Alonso left and was replaced with Aquilani.
Every away game in the Premier League, I used to think, “I’d take a draw here”.
I’d say Christian Poulsen or Konchesky were the worst first team players I’ve seen in recent times for Liverpool. Dark days have gone now, though!
Thats how I feel now as a Gooner
Flowing Qi I can imagine, but I feel like you’re a decent manager away from something special!
these guys will tell their grandchildren i played for Liverpool one day and they will reply yeah but in 2011
What Hodgson actually did at Liverpool :
1. Sign old and nothing players
2. Sign more old and nothing players
Lol, what's a "nothing player" ?
@@subzero2788 Andy Carroll or Joe Cole.
Signing Raul Meireles actually was the only good thing that Hodgson did for us
😆😅😂🤣 Roy 'Senile' Hodgson.
Andy Carroll was a Dalglish signing. Jovanovic was a Benitez signing, his last one before being sacked.
"It didn't look like he was ever going to turn into a dynamic Premier League player"
What, apart from him playing 44 times the very next season, then playing every single game in 2013-14 until he got sent off, at which point we collapsed against Chelsea and Palace without him? Guess who was missing when we completely collapsed against Sevilla in the Europa League final?
He's made us tick ever since he arrived, but because he's a midfielder who isn't putting up huge goals/assist tallies people think he's not special. Absolutely does my head in that our own fans still don't realise how important he's been for so long. This season alone, he's in the top 5 midfielders for big chances created, but he's the only one in the top 30 or so to also have 50+ tackles and an 80%+ pass accuracy.
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Many of these signings made a lot of sense on paper, they just flopped once they actually played for the team.
Much like germany now
Yeah like Andy Carroll. When Liverpool signed him I was expecting him to absolutely smash it but didn't pan out that way.
It's funny seeing as this is coming from a guy named "Zero Accountability."
@@horsepower523 Yup... What was annoying about Carroll was that he didn't need to be incredible ... Just consistent, a menace in the box, and bag 12-15 goals a season ...
But injuries and self-doubt meant he couldn't even do that ...
Yeah I agree.. Andrew Robertson signed from Hull could be on this list if Liverpool weren't playing so well right now.
*Having PTSD flashbacks watching this*
Oh yeah, watching this I had forgotten how much I had deliberately forgotten...
Adrian, great video, hilarious and very informative of the rough times that were the Banter era Reds, as an LFC fan, would highly recommend and love to see more and similar videos with other Premier League sides ! 😃
I see a video like this being made soon on my club Manchester United. We are in full banter era now
Keep the faith brother, we’re looking sharp.
Just wanted to say, really good video. You guys are very likable.
Lol this is when I was first a LFC fan in Benitez last year. I've never known the good times till now.
Great video fellas, though I would suggest making this format into a podcast. There's not really a big need for visuals when it's a discssion like this :)
I like the visuals
No mention of the legendary Degen?
As a Liverpool fan, this will be fun and kind of cathartic
Joe Cole though... When he was 17/18. That guy looked like the most promising England player of all time. But English teams played a flat 4 4 2 with Darren Anderton's on the wing and Roy Keane's in midfield. and he was an Ozil (in his prime) which was almost a decade away. If a 17 year old Cole showed up today he would shine.
It's crazy seeing that picture knowing that Carroll was seen as the marque signing at the time and the most money we had spent on a player at that point... and Luis Suarez was there too.
Aquilani was a decent player. Just too injury prone and had huge shoes to fill.
Strange you guys never mentioned Raul Meireles. He was a highly underated shinning light for Liverpool during that banter era
It was during this period that I became a Liverpool supporter. Despite the hard times, supporting this club is amazing and I wouldn't ever change it for anyone else
Oh boys. I have been trying to put this era out of my mind. Watching this is going to give me nightmares.
Really liked this man maybe do more of these kind of videos!!
Great video as ever 👍👍
Can't believe you didn't mention Ricky bloody lambert. What a shambles he was
When jagielka scored that goal against us in 2014/15 in merseyside derby after Gerrard scored a brilliant free kick, those moments really sounds that time up, of course season before that was a great journey, but since 2009 till klopp came in, we really didn't feel any comfort or satisfaction, we lost the fa cup final to Chelsea the season we won the league cup, that was really hurtful, the whole time was just so bad, and now it is completely reversal, thanks klopp to make us believe again
All my friends were Chelsea fans at this time and I was a Red in an ocean of Blue. I remember my mate saying (in a pitiful tone) "Liverpool do like to lose don't they?"...
Well look at us now! XD
i became a fan of LFC in 2011-2012 era. simply off the success and rawness of Gerrard, off his early 2000's success as i looked for an english soccer club to support and follow. I almost chose newcastle but stuck with the mighty reds thanks to Gerrard. Now, I NEVER WALK ALONE.
Fabio Borini worth a mention
With the amount of examples you should make a part 2
I trained with a coach on a camp in Germany who trained Cole when he was a teenager and he said something VERY similar about cole that gerrard did regarding the comparisons with messi. Injuries robbed him of what could have been an incredible career
Love the AM hat, I’ve got the same one!
Good lord we have come a long way. Especially that 2010-2015 era. Some of the signings, were real head scratchers
Drew the match against Arsenal when Joe Cole got sent off. Reina made a last minute howler to gift them an equaliser, summed up what was to come in that season.
As a hull city fan i can say markovic looked pretty good for us, was surprised no bottom half prem team went for him after finishing with us
that gerrard quote is hilarious level of ty from aftv
How did you miss Robbie Keane brought in summer for 18 million then sold in the winter for 15 million we essentially loaned him for 6 months for 3 million 😂
Lfc4eva 1987 and what was confusing was he was decent. I maintain lfc win the league with Rk. He scored some goals.
@@alberthagan8909 Yup ... He was a MENACE up front, and meant we had decent cover for injuries ... but no, Rafa boots him first chance he gets ..... Daft.
@@alberthagan8909 he scored 7 goals in 28 games for us, he just didn't fit our style
@Darren Mcclean Rafa had no choice. Hicks and Gillete were secretly broke at that point and were trying to cover it up.
@@thomasmcdonough7867 7 goals in half a season ould have been 14 in a full season and that decided the tittle
I'll never forget these fucking hard times. Every game felt so shit to watch, the team just played so shit every game. And then we had that special season with Rodgers which ended in even more heartache. And it felt like we would never get a chance at the premier league again. And then a funny german guy came and changed the entire atmosphere of the club. We are living in a golden period right now as lfc fans and all we can do is enjoy the happiness.
Oh I don’t miss these days. Those were the dark times
Those times will return as soon as Klopp leaves.
@@katakuri4094 I somehow doubt that very much
Joe Cole was amazing but by the time we got him he was so racked with injury that we just couldn't get consistent appearances out of him, he also lacked discipline which was not a great trait during those frustrating years.
Does this vid feature Milan Jovanovic? If it doesn't, it should. Iconic goal for Serbia vs Germany 2010
The banter era didn't suddenly stop, it gradually ended from 2015 onto 2017
2016 i think where it ended,2017 where it started to kick off
How can you forget....Fernando Morientes...had so much hope he could bring something to us in those desperate times 😂
Scottish players whom played for Liverpool: Kenny Dalglish, Graeme Souness, Steve Nicol, Gary McAllister, Alan Hansen & great Bill Shankly, Ian St John
Andy Robertson...
Liverpool fan:
Alex Ferguson: Charlie Adam.
Enjoy RabonaTV...but had to stop watching this video once you said that, at times, Markovic looked like Messi.
Priceless... completely nuts...but still priceless.
I remember when we were signing strikers like Voronin and Sinama Pongolle.
Sinama Pongolle was a hero. Liverpool would never win UCL in 2005 if he didn't score the first goal against Olympiakos which sparked the entire team spirit
@@PissG Yeah but then you have to ask yourself if we had actual strikers at that time would we have even needed those kinds of goals?
@@superpantman Be generous. At that time Liverpool always lost to either Arsenal or Man Utd in transfer market when hunting for top class players. Liverpool had no choice than to make bets with second rate or third rate players and played smart on the pitch. Tbh it was a miracle that Liverpool managed to buy Xabi Alonso.
God damn I remember they tried to replace Torres with Andy Caroll, Mereiles with Charlie Adam. Liverpool fans at the time were martyres for still loving their club
Thought the banter era began in 09 when we conceded off a beach ball deflection.
We had Roy Hodgson 🤣🤣, wasn't funny at the time.
Captain Chainsaw No tragic, but think he was the catalyst to get rid of Hicks and Gillette. We displayed our displeasure from the Kop and stayed after the match to amplify our disgust.
Andy's story is pretty tragic if you think about it, but to be honest, Lazar's story is far more tragic. I think this might be the same or at least very similiar case as the one of Bojan Krkic's.
Bojan said himself that he was depressed because of all the pressure, all the eyes on him and there was noone for him when he was still at Barca and even later. Dude had incredible talent, phenomenal skills, but wouldnt really use them. Now we have a guy approaching his 30s soon and a sad story behind him.
I believe that Lazar had lots of pressure on his head, most likely his english wasn't that well, there was noone that he could trust or talk with in Liverpool, especially the manager (Brendan Rodgers) who had his own personal problems (I believe that's the reason he didn't win the PL with LFC). Additionally look at the positions that Rodgers played Lazar in, Lazar was a RW/RF/CF and Brendan would start him in the LB/LWB role or RM at best. I bet Markovic must have felt alone as hell and all these loans only fed the demons inside of him. I'm glad he's back to his home country, that's the thing he needed in his life most likely, to get back on the feet, but all these lost years, all these memories that he will now have. Sadly, we might never see Lazar again in the spotlight and that's fuckin' tragic.
I really liked Lazar and I actually tend to actively check how his career is going, dude had lightning pace, I'd say even faster than Sterling, great shooting & passing ability, his dribbling was also on such a high level and it felt like he knew what he's doing on the pitch, he had the IQ needed to understand tactics, the game... but most likely lack of confidence, depression, being alone and having noone to talk about all that shit, well... most likely we lost a star in the making that could possibly play as RW instead of Salah right now.
I don't know whether I'm right or wrong, I don't know Lazar, there was always lack of information about him, but that's what it always looked like.
Hopefully the lad feels well now in Serbia and will play some great football there.
Assaidi scored the winner against Chelsea when he was in loan at Stoke during the magical 13-14 season. Borin scored the winner against United for Sunderland that season as well. Those were basically the highlights of their respective LFC careers.
Do this for Inter Milan 😂
Stewart never have I seen a player for our club almost score so many worldies or almost assist, but in the cold light of day it's not good enough if you end scoring and assisting pretty much 0
That addidas kit under Hodgson was soo goddamn ugly and poorly fitting I remember having it and it wasn't comfortable at all, tbf it's probably more tainted coz of how shite we were as well
Joe cole was quality, just really unlucky with injuries
Aquilani, the man of glass!
As soon as i see those horrendous adidas kits we had during this time, it gives me anxiety.
I started supporting liverpool in 2010 lol
support local ya plastic
Tough times indeed.
Joe Cole might have come on a free, but he was given a few mill as a signing on bonus, completely shafted the club.
I've always rated Carroll very highly. Hard to think of many better players in the air, and with a sweet left foot to boot. I think if he had stayed fit his whole career, he could have continued to improve and maybe even topped out at the level of Dzeko or Mandzukic, i.e. an elite but not quite world-class striker. A shame his career has been so curtailed by injuries.
I became liverpool fan around 2008 i think.....and i dont know how...they were shit after those days...now i am enjoying every bit of it..😀😀
Hodgson era. OMG!!
What exactly has Hodgson done thats impressive with Palace? I'd love to hear this.
He miraculously managed to save a solid mid table team from relegation.....
As an Inter fan I can relate very much 2012-20?? When will it end...
Still can't believe your last title win is from 2011 😳
Yup. Those were the days
I was five when i first watched football. It was torres' pre final year and gerrard was literally destroying the opposition. Now im 16 and i really miss those days😥. However i always brag about being the oldest football fan among my friends if you know what i meant😂
Every great club has brief 2-5 year banter eras on occasion. Glad to see United and Arsenal in it rn
randomm User1237589 Liverpool has been bantering in between their champions league wins a good 15 years lol
Arsenal had been in banter era since 2015 when AS Monaco kicked their arse
Ok you didn't have the luminary Anrdriy Voronin there. Am disappointed 🤣
Couldnt agree more. There was a time Liverpool signed the most bang average players of all time. It was painful to watch. And I was an arsenal fan
I think you're being kind calling some of them average. The likes of Poulsen, Kromkamp, Konchesky etc dreamed of being 'average'.
Fuckin' hell... my PTSD came flashing back when the pictures of these players show up on my screen.
The fact you guys keep calling Chelsea a rival club for Liverpool is beginning to grate on my nerves a bit, Chelsea haven’t been in Liverpool’s radar as a rival team since 06.
I always thought Hendo would be a good player he had good passing and ran a hell of a lot
the arsenal game with cole red card was 1-1 pepe reina own goal in the last minute haha
Here as a United fan to cheer myself knowing that we’re knee deep in our own banter era hoping and praying that we get out of it. But it seems that’s never going to happen with Woodward in charge.
Few misconceptions and unknowns at one stage they were very close to bankruptcy 2005 2006 champions league and fa cup wins and 3 v close title losses and Liverpool and history are one who has one of their managers ashes buried on the pitch.....liverpool
What about Joe Allen? That's a good one you missed out.
allen was alright
*On fifa*
Allen was a 'nothing' player for Liverpool. He had a 'good' game if he didn't do anything 'bad'.
@@jaysmith2858 When Klopp started his first full season as LFC manager, he immediately sold Allen (buy Wijnaldum) and Ibe (buy Mane) 🤣
a bit harsh, but if you want success you must be ruthless in your decisions.
That was our Dark Ages.😂
Joe Cole was a top player, but when I watched him live, he was bent over like he was out of breath all the time. Clearly unfit. Hodgsons fault.
You can find a thread like this on twitter about every club except liverpool, their fans can’t take a joke and they report the shit out of everything.
2010/11 was more banter than 09/10
lol yeah the Hodgey years were grim. We've come a long way.