Thanks for the info. brother. I'm a mechanic for a school district and we have a mini bus that has a 6.0 and I'm dealing with a crank, no start situation. Watched your video, took some notes and will knock it out tomorrow. Thanks again.
@justindaniel5087 mine to, new ipr and icp screen was shot, have lowboil pressure, nothing in the valve, has fuel, absolutely no pressure, I'm at the point of a catastrophic hpop failure. Does try to start with starting fluid done it once just to see if it just needed a pick me up but that was a no go as well. Last time it tried to start it let out a huge puff of white and gray smoke but no antifreeze in the oil or vice versa so head gasket isn't even on my radar at this point lol. 😊
Great video. I know a few people have made a “what to look for when buying a 6.0 video”, but with your awesome experience I wouldn’t mind seeing one. You da man!
Saved me a lot of time. I saw I had low base oil pressure so I was about to replace the pump until I saw this video thank you very much, it fixed the low oil pressure issue. Prior to this crank no start happening the upper seal and snap ring broke and lost half of the snap ring in the engine I couldn't find the rest of it so I put it all back together fired it up and it ran for a couple days and then it died again and the other half of that snap ring getting caught in the valve for the pump.
@@chrismontalvo6831 go to harbor freight buy the strongest magnets they have and stick them on your oil pan it will hold anything that makes it down there
Man alive! Your shared knowledge and effort to post this video saved me a lot of aggravation and saved me from the risks of handing it over to the "professional" mechanic. I am a horticulturist but were I not the primary mechanic on my '07 550, with help from Diesel Tech Ron (missed greatly), Makuolco and you, I would be much the poorer in money, skills and specialty tools. A splinter of metal 1/3 the size of a pinky nail clipping was the problem. W/O your video I would have gone down a lot of dead end rabbit holes. Thank you !
Thanks for these videos, Drew! I definitely understand the whole oil system with the 6.0 know. Where to look and how to diagnose the issue. Thanks to your videos and Gary’s truck 😜😂 I have an 05 and I’m about to do an overhaul on the oil system. I’ve put 20k miles on it since I bought the truck and it runs fine. Sometimes it times a few seconds to turn over or I gotta stop, turn it once more and it comes on. I feel like this happens when it’s time for an oil change or really really hot out here in Tx.
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Thanks for the compliment. I actually enjoy the diagnosing part of the job, I guess it’s the paramedic part of me seeing as that’s what I signed up for being a paramedic but most of the time I’m transporting bs to the hospital and nothing that’s a true emergency.
Bro what the hell ..the same truck ..and once again ..more helpful tips tricks ..and dead on fix ..ooo can do me a favor as I watch your videos while your cranking let us know which pid are suppose to be looking at the second time around we do tend to forget the first time you said it ..but 5 star in my book ..thank you for sharing your knowledge ..
Yea, he bought a 6.0 and didn’t get me to look it over first and he’s now regretting that. And it doesn’t have studs either so I’m sure if he keeps it the cab will be getting raised again for that even though I tried to get him to let me do it while it was up but money was tight for him. Thanks for watching.
I’m going through this exact problem right now. I’m only building about 300-400 on the IPR. If I give it a shot of starting fluid it’ll start. That worked a few times, but now it’ll start, but only run for a few seconds. Hoping to start looking into things today.
@@saltycrowgarage7215 not yet. With no money right now, and health issues, it’s in limbo sadly. I’m going to try swapping some things from my 04(nov, so same components), and see what happens. Just been in copious amounts of pain. Hoping to try some things later this week. Thank you for asking.
Heya, I'm over here working on a 6.0 van E350, same powerplant. Was getting low oil pressure, ICP at 50 max after 15 sec of crank; pulled low pressure relief valve, was sticking but no debris; after cleaning still 50 max at ICP
Thank you so much. My 04 6.0 decided to break in all places all at once. If it weren’t for you I would be paying cash I don’t have. I wish you the best. Another Q. I looked into Some things I still don’t have low oil pressure but with your troubleshooting guide my p Oil filter plunder broke. I’m assuming that’s the culprit. I’m hoping this is one of the final things that has to be fixed before it starts running.
Yo !! You help me out bro !!! I was going to lose my mined after soft plugs and turbo rebuild no start and it was oil pressure did the same started up !!! Man not kicking my Nabor’s dog ha thanks 🙏
We have a long crank to start cold and no start when hot. It cranks a long time before the dash shows oil pressure but once it shows it starts up. Just got done replacing all injector and fuel rail nipple o-rings. Oil filter gets oil about as fast as you showed in this video. Oil pump plug came out no issues. It slid out with no magnet, and no metal was found. Pulled the ipr and screen looked good, no metal found.
@AutomedicGarage Not really much. About an hr sitting. I just shut it off again, and it refuses to re-start. I'll have to wait till it cools down to start it again.
@AutomedicGarage I did the air test at the sensor, regulator, and also the rail. It had what sounded like air leaking under both left and right sides under the rail somewhere. I didn't feel any air and tried pouring oil all over with no luck. It sounded the same before and after all the seals were replaced. Since I did the injector and nipple o-rings, it starts more quickly cold than it did before oring replacement. Ipr goes to 45 upon startup and stay around 25-27 running. When it gets hot, ipr is still 25 or so. While running, demand fuel pressure/icp 580 and actual stays 570-580. When hot and shut off, then try to restart, ipr goes to 85, demand pressure is 652 and actual pressure hovers around 345-365 with icp voltage at .56-.64. Will not start. When it starts cold, it runs great with no issues. I did actuate the ipr with my scanner while I was doing the air test, and it shut off the air supply the more it was activated. Looking at other videos, I came across dieseltechRon. He mentioned the stc coupling. I didn't replace that, but it's not available at O'reillys, and neither is the low-pressure oil pump, so I'll call the dealer tomorrow and check on cost.
@@okhotrodder unplug your icp, run it that way see if there’s a difference. Gotta get the stc at ford and whatever you do don’t buy a LPOP or stc from oreillys.
Definitely going to check and see if the oil pressure builds like you did but my question now is would that effect it when it starts cold but not when its hot???
@@shaunrivers7506 comments like this and helping out folks is what this is all about. I take pride in my work and want everyone to be happy with what they pay for which is the problem with a lot of places and things now days.
It might hit just due to the simple fact of the compression igniting the ether but it won’t “overcome” a bad icp. Most times a bad icp doesn’t give you a no start, you might have erratic idle or long start etc. the best way to determine if it’s bad is see what the voltage is key on engine off. Or just unplug it. It will run without it cause the pcm has a default pressure it goes to if it isn’t getting any feedback from the icp.
@@AutomedicGarage ok thank you. Doesn’t sound like my problem. I had to use the ether trick to get back to Nashville last night from Indiana with a heavy load. Mine runs fine once started but I’ll shut it off at the pump to get diesel and it doesn’t want to start back. I changed both filters on the side of the road yesterday and it’s still doing it
Same symptoms, however I am already getting base oil pressure up into filter housing.. do I explore icp and ipr now, then ficm.. I have no scan tools for verification of the voltage and pressures in ficm, icp ect.. I am kinda trying to figure it out low budget.. Definitely have oil coming up filter housing, definitely have fuel coming into filter housing as well.. so I am starting to look towards ficm, icp, ipr, hpop.. absolute diesel Novice..
Hi there which software do you have in this video that shows the oil pressure act great video also if it not the valve under the flywheel stuck what is it.
an update to the previous comment, Pulled the low oil pressure relief valve, moved good no metal, used magnet to make sure no metal inside, because i found no damage i changed the low pressure oil pump gears, they looked pretty good a very small sign something small had gotten in there, three of the humps in the gear had very tiny chip in them, but i put new gears in anyway. I also, air checked the engine, did not find what i believed were any air leaks, also put in new injectors, OEM, new dummy and stand pipes, put it all together, like i said before the oil filter housing fills up with oil but i get no oil indication in truck at all, using my scan tool, when cranking the ICP will not even change at all from reading 0 psi, no movement at all, and of course IPR goes to 85%, Now im not sure where to even start, so another question is it possible i still have to much air in system to crank, or could i have a bad ICP sensor, thanks so much I hope to here from you, its your videos that made me want to do this my self !!
My friend, your videos have been a life saver time and time again. My only question with this one specifically: if it does fill with oil, is it as simple as replacing the filter cap so that it’s long enough to trigger the drain vac?
So this happened from running out of fuel? I ran out of fuel and watch my gauges lose pressure and haven’t started since. I’m going to try this tomorrow
Thank you again. I went and with the checks found that the oil tube broke - the plastic part of it. I found a piece inside the where the oil sits. I replaced that part. The oil builds up like in the video. Any chance that some plastic made its way to something else where it’s not building up pressure? What should I look for? My oil gauge still reads zero.
Where do you hook up a pressure guage to test actual psi of low oil pressure? I have no start, originally had ipr code,, replaced,,, still no start, so bought a scan guage 3 ,, have ficm volts 48 ficm logic 10.5-11, ficm sync 1 ficm cam and crank yes,,rpm 190,,icp .24v ,,icp takes a bit to get to 225 then halts , clean relief valve, nothing in there but tight, pulled and cleaned,,, oil fills in about 10 seconds, im stumped ,, any ideas,, thanks,,pat
great video, are you reading ICP psi? or Kpa? cant really see on screen, thank u, algo if i do have the good oil pressure from engine pump to filter housing, but not high pump pressure at all, should i point to high pressure pump?
If its a early 6.0 (03-early 04) yes, pumps are prone to get weak and the j tube orings can blow also. If it’s late 04 or newer could be stand pipes, dummy plugs or stc fitting(if it still has one) late model pumps don’t typically go bad. You really need to pressure test the Hpo system to really tell the story if your low pressure pump is doing it’s job. And yes I’m reading psi not Kpa
So I did your oil test, got oil, did your bubble test from another video for injectors, no bubbles. Still just cranks no start. New icp, new ipr. Kinda wants to kick over when ether is used. Oil quality is new, filter new, level at max. Where else should I look? Based on my work schedule this thing has been down for months now and if you weren’t just shy of 3 hours away I’d of already brought it to you, lol! Thanks in advance!
@@AutomedicGarage I don’t have that tough book monitoring setup you have but have been contemplating getting it. Do you recommend I get it for more accurate diagnosis?
My truck is studded, sct tuned, fully deleted straight piped and it had supposedly been well taken care of by a friend. On a cold or warm start mine cranks twice or 3 times over before it starts compared to the one in your video. Is there something wrong with it,
Hi there. U have such a good videos!I recommend You're Chanel for others. My 2005 F250 6.0diesel when my cold engine starts, isn't going too High idle to 1000rpm engine wormup. Its still only 670-700 RPM. What is can cause a trouble for this??
@@AutomedicGarage Outside is 19C engine coolant 90F I have a so cheap scanner that's my scanner says 90F. 1st in the morning when I start engine it doesn't go high 1000rpm Stays on the same 678rpm.
I have an 06 6.0 with a crank no start. Quit on me going 80 in the fast lane and I had to coast over to the side. Was able to get it going eventually and got it home over an hour away. The next day it started for a min and then quit. Couldnt get it started again. Thought it was the fuel pump so tried replacing that and its still not getting fuel to the bowl. Something in the pump or by the bowl doesnt sound right. Im also going to check the oil pressure as you did here tomorrow. Any help where to start next with the fuel issue would be much appreciated!
Hello I have a quick question I have a truck in my yard that has the same problem but one of the guys sprayed starter fluid and it will start right up and run fine
Love the video! But I'm Ole School, would have yanked that 6.0 brick out and replaced with a 7.3 :) And WTHeck, Ford's 07 6.0 had it right and tight... then discontued it for 6.4??
@@AutomedicGarage That's why I'm subscribed to your channel... Need me to be Learn't on how to work on the 6.0s. My Cuz has a 04' W/ a 6.0 and he's mechanicaly challenged to say the least, Best his Heart :) Also looking on how to make it Bullett Proof! And del-leted the crap that kills these motors!
Please send mire videos to lesrn hiw to work on our on truck,because here where i live can nit find people that nows how too woork in this tipe of trucks thanks much friend i Woody like to SEE more of your videos
Did this filter housing fills up but it’s still not starting. Still nothing on the gauge in the truck. ICP is reading 0. IPR at 85% when cranking ficm sync is 1. No idea what to do now
Hello, see last message,taking a chance you still help people, My 2004 6.0, will not show oil pressure on gauge in truck, with good battery power for cranking, but when i check for low oil pressure in the filter housing, the housing DOES fill up with oil, but when cranking the ICP PSI never leaves 0 psi. and IPR does go to 85%, Is it possible that i have a bad enough oil leak that it wont show any ICP pressure during cranking it ?
What part of Arkansas are you in? I have a 2009 f350 6.4l that's got a no start issue but it popped out of gear on the interstate and then stalled on the side of the road once I restarted it it stalled out again and wouldn't start again it's not deleted at all I'm in central Arkansas near Conway
@@AutomedicGarage I'd love it if I could get some help with this damn truck Ive only had it for about 6 months was running great no issues had a glow plug issue so my mechanic changed the harness then it started staying stuck in cleaning exhaust filter mode kept cycling through it everytime I'd drive the truck. For about a month it did that but would run fine then I moved back to Arkansas broke down in New Mexico and had to have a long haul tow here how easy is it to change the EGR valve?
so, i pulled my relief valve out and of course it sprung out at me, cleaned it up good and reinstalled, went top side and was watching my reservoir while key off and the reservoir didnt fill….i also tried depressing the plunger in the reservoir still no change….is this a bad lpop? its a 2006 f250 6.0
Pull the low oil pressure pump. Check gears for scarring. If the gears are scarred. What normally causes this is a lifter has come apart and the needles out of that lifter has gone through the pump. Next step is to pull the engine. And watch bank account go empty.
DO NOT USE STARTING FLUID!!! If you pumping LPO this isn’t your problem. What’s your icp, ipr%, FICM main and FICM sync say when cranking? What’s your fuel pressure? This video only applies if your not making low pressure oil. If you keep throwing starting fluid at a truck your gonna crack a piston or rings.
I have a 2004 PS Lariat Auto and 4wd 250k miles, HPOP replaced twice, I did the second one myself about 7k miles ago. Truck runs fine but recently has no oil pressure on gauge at idle after warmed up. If idle is increased from 750 to 875 the oil pressure warning goes out and the gauge comes back up. Changed oil and filter yesterday and this is still going on. Any ideas on what it might be ?
@@vg23air what’s your drain back valve look like? Factory cap? Oil filter stand pipe in good shape? Check your LPOP relief valve. If all the above if fine replace oil pressure sender.
mine alsways made a sound when i turned on ignition before cranking it over. now it will crank but no start and no clicking not sure what the clicking was but i had this truck 3 years its a 2005 6.0 and today no start. i tried bleeding the fuel because i did nearly run out of fuel last time i drove it. i am in tears i need my truck back on the road
@@hellothere312 clicking noise was probably your FICM going through it’s cycle. See if you have 47-48 FICM main power and 12v battery power to your FICM.
Only takes 7psi to read on the dash. The dash oil pressure is not priority if battery voltage is low either. So no if the filter housing fills relatively quick you should have gauge unless you have pretty weak batteries
Thanks for the info. brother. I'm a mechanic for a school district and we have a mini bus that has a 6.0 and I'm dealing with a crank, no start situation. Watched your video, took some notes and will knock it out tomorrow. Thanks again.
Sure thing, hope it helps you out.
how did it go I have now same problem and mechanism said low pressure oil absent.. and he told me to scrap the truck!!!
My truck is still doing a crank no start I just replaced the IPR valve it was damaged and the screen was as well and it’s still not turning on
@justindaniel5087 mine to, new ipr and icp screen was shot, have lowboil pressure, nothing in the valve, has fuel, absolutely no pressure, I'm at the point of a catastrophic hpop failure. Does try to start with starting fluid done it once just to see if it just needed a pick me up but that was a no go as well. Last time it tried to start it let out a huge puff of white and gray smoke but no antifreeze in the oil or vice versa so head gasket isn't even on my radar at this point lol. 😊
Wowww... 😮@@nikeandros
I have an 03' 6.0 4x4 dually diesel. This Video saved me from spending unknown amounts of time and money!! I truely Appreciate You sharing this video.
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Great video. I know a few people have made a “what to look for when buying a 6.0 video”, but with your awesome experience I wouldn’t mind seeing one. You da man!
This is why if you don’t work on your own 6.0 you have do your research and find an excellent mechanic like this guy in Arkansas.
I’m not from Arkansas, unless what your trying to say is I’m a sh*t mechanic
Or you learn from these videos and work on your own 6.0… otherwise what’s the point of these videos? Great job and thanks for the video AG!
@@dancook6322 thanks bud.
The only way to learn is to do it
Thanks it help my 2003 f-250
What a great video. Well explained and easy to follow.
Saved me a lot of time. I saw I had low base oil pressure so I was about to replace the pump until I saw this video thank you very much, it fixed the low oil pressure issue. Prior to this crank no start happening the upper seal and snap ring broke and lost half of the snap ring in the engine I couldn't find the rest of it so I put it all back together fired it up and it ran for a couple days and then it died again and the other half of that snap ring getting caught in the valve for the pump.
@@chrismontalvo6831 go to harbor freight buy the strongest magnets they have and stick them on your oil pan it will hold anything that makes it down there
I thought i was cleaver on these 6.0's! But i learned somthing today! Thank you sir! That fixed my issue!
Man alive! Your shared knowledge and effort to post this video saved me a lot of aggravation and saved me from the risks of handing it over to the "professional" mechanic. I am a horticulturist but were I not the primary mechanic on my '07 550, with help from Diesel Tech Ron (missed greatly), Makuolco and you, I would be much the poorer in money, skills and specialty tools. A splinter of metal 1/3 the size of a pinky nail clipping was the problem. W/O your video I would have gone down a lot of dead end rabbit holes. Thank you !
Glad it helped
Thanks for these videos, Drew! I definitely understand the whole oil system with the 6.0 know. Where to look and how to diagnose the issue. Thanks to your videos and Gary’s truck 😜😂
I have an 05 and I’m about to do an overhaul on the oil system. I’ve put 20k miles on it since I bought the truck and it runs fine. Sometimes it times a few seconds to turn over or I gotta stop, turn it once more and it comes on. I feel like this happens when it’s time for an oil change or really really hot out here in Tx.
Glad they’ve helped. Thanks for watching
I think you just fixed my damn truck after 4 years lol thank you.
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Thank you thank you ! I was having this exact problem after watching this video. I had this exact issue and fixed it the same way thanks again !
Thank you this worked on my 06 had a little piece of metal in the low oil pressure valve got it out and cranked right up
Good video your a good mechanic and you make me want to keep working with my 6.0
Thanks for the compliment, keep the 6.0 going
The best video. everyone else goes straight to the high pressure side, instead of the root.
Thanks for the compliment. I actually enjoy the diagnosing part of the job, I guess it’s the paramedic part of me seeing as that’s what I signed up for being a paramedic but most of the time I’m transporting bs to the hospital and nothing that’s a true emergency.
I loved my 03 round pipe. Sometimes I wish I kept it. Deleted and studded, it was very reliable.
Bro what the hell ..the same truck ..and once again ..more helpful tips tricks ..and dead on fix ..ooo can do me a favor as I watch your videos while your cranking let us know which pid are suppose to be looking at the second time around we do tend to forget the first time you said it ..but 5 star in my book ..thank you for sharing your knowledge ..
Yea, he bought a 6.0 and didn’t get me to look it over first and he’s now regretting that. And it doesn’t have studs either so I’m sure if he keeps it the cab will be getting raised again for that even though I tried to get him to let me do it while it was up but money was tight for him. Thanks for watching.
Love these powerstroke. They are very interesting. Tho we don't get them in my country.
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Excellent diagnostic, thanks
Appreciate it. Thanks for watching.
This a great video. I was able to fix the problem that my truck had. Thank you for your This video
Glad it helped and thanks for watching.
I’m going through this exact problem right now.
I’m only building about 300-400 on the IPR. If I give it a shot of starting fluid it’ll start. That worked a few times, but now it’ll start, but only run for a few seconds.
Hoping to start looking into things today.
Icp not ipr, did you clean the relief valve
@@AutomedicGarage not yet. Going to check the oil filter first. Then go from there.
@@bobuncle8704did you find a fix?
@@saltycrowgarage7215 not yet. With no money right now, and health issues, it’s in limbo sadly. I’m going to try swapping some things from my 04(nov, so same components), and see what happens. Just been in copious amounts of pain. Hoping to try some things later this week. Thank you for asking.
Great video and very useful! Ty
Great Video, and valuable information to keep in mind.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Heya, I'm over here working on a 6.0 van E350, same powerplant. Was getting low oil pressure, ICP at 50 max after 15 sec of crank; pulled low pressure relief valve, was sticking but no debris; after cleaning still 50 max at ICP
ive got the same thing going on with my work truck great video. im not a diesel guy but i might try this
Thank you so much. My 04 6.0 decided to break in all places all at once. If it weren’t for you I would be paying cash I don’t have. I wish you the best. Another Q. I looked into
Some things I still don’t have low oil pressure but with your troubleshooting guide my p
Oil filter plunder broke. I’m assuming that’s the culprit. I’m hoping this is one of the final things that has to be fixed before it starts running.
You are a badazz sun of a gun buddy!!! Dang it man!!! Awesome
Yo !! You help me out bro !!! I was going to lose my mined after soft plugs and turbo rebuild no start and it was oil pressure did the same started up !!! Man not kicking my Nabor’s dog ha thanks 🙏
Hey man. Great video. Saved me thousands of $$$$$. I owe u
You bad to the bone, Saludos cordiales desde Dallas.Tx 👍👍👍
A HONEST MAN! GREAT JOB!
Thank you
You are very talented
GOD BLESS YOU
Thanks for the video was same problem I just had with my 04
We have a long crank to start cold and no start when hot. It cranks a long time before the dash shows oil pressure but once it shows it starts up. Just got done replacing all injector and fuel rail nipple o-rings. Oil filter gets oil about as fast as you showed in this video. Oil pump plug came out no issues. It slid out with no magnet, and no metal was found. Pulled the ipr and screen looked good, no metal found.
How much have you run it since replacing all that? It takes a good hard drive to get all the air out of the system.
@AutomedicGarage Not really much. About an hr sitting. I just shut it off again, and it refuses to re-start. I'll have to wait till it cools down to start it again.
@@okhotrodder sounds like you need to air test the Hpo system
@AutomedicGarage I did the air test at the sensor, regulator, and also the rail. It had what sounded like air leaking under both left and right sides under the rail somewhere. I didn't feel any air and tried pouring oil all over with no luck. It sounded the same before and after all the seals were replaced. Since I did the injector and nipple o-rings, it starts more quickly cold than it did before oring replacement. Ipr goes to 45 upon startup and stay around 25-27 running. When it gets hot, ipr is still 25 or so. While running, demand fuel pressure/icp 580 and actual stays 570-580. When hot and shut off, then try to restart, ipr goes to 85, demand pressure is 652 and actual pressure hovers around 345-365 with icp voltage at .56-.64. Will not start.
When it starts cold, it runs great with no issues. I did actuate the ipr with my scanner while I was doing the air test, and it shut off the air supply the more it was activated.
Looking at other videos, I came across dieseltechRon. He mentioned the stc coupling. I didn't replace that, but it's not available at O'reillys, and neither is the low-pressure oil pump, so I'll call the dealer tomorrow and check on cost.
@@okhotrodder unplug your icp, run it that way see if there’s a difference. Gotta get the stc at ford and whatever you do don’t buy a LPOP or stc from oreillys.
Thanks for your help..much appreciated.
Buenisimo video gracias me alludo demasiado
I need a mechanic like you in my zip code.
That’s a compliment. Thanks
Definitely going to check and see if the oil pressure builds like you did but my question now is would that effect it when it starts cold but not when its hot???
The lpo relief will affect it at anytime but more so when the oil is hot
Brother I have learn so much from your video. I just spent a lot of money and I have question about work that I paid for that I’m sure didn’t get done
@@shaunrivers7506 comments like this and helping out folks is what this is all about. I take pride in my work and want everyone to be happy with what they pay for which is the problem with a lot of places and things now days.
@@AutomedicGarage absolutely
Hey sir thanks for the awesome video. Can you tell me what size allen wrench that is?
This really just helped me this exact issue just started for me 3 days ago thanks for the video.
Glad it help, thanks for watching
What size is that bolt?
Let me ask you this…can a shot of ether to get it started overcome a bad icp sensor?
It might hit just due to the simple fact of the compression igniting the ether but it won’t “overcome” a bad icp. Most times a bad icp doesn’t give you a no start, you might have erratic idle or long start etc. the best way to determine if it’s bad is see what the voltage is key on engine off. Or just unplug it. It will run without it cause the pcm has a default pressure it goes to if it isn’t getting any feedback from the icp.
@@AutomedicGarage ok thank you. Doesn’t sound like my problem. I had to use the ether trick to get back to Nashville last night from Indiana with a heavy load. Mine runs fine once started but I’ll shut it off at the pump to get diesel and it doesn’t want to start back. I changed both filters on the side of the road yesterday and it’s still doing it
@@BrandonLayMusic probably have the beginnings of a high pressure oil leak
Same symptoms, however I am already getting base oil pressure up into filter housing.. do I explore icp and ipr now, then ficm.. I have no scan tools for verification of the voltage and pressures in ficm, icp ect.. I am kinda trying to figure it out low budget.. Definitely have oil coming up filter housing, definitely have fuel coming into filter housing as well.. so I am starting to look towards ficm, icp, ipr, hpop.. absolute diesel Novice..
Hi there which software do you have in this video that shows the oil pressure act great video also if it not the valve under the flywheel stuck what is it.
Awesome video! Thank you so much!
I ordered new front cover for my 04 6.0L and had it in 2 weeks
Please don’t tell me it was a dorman? I only use OEM.
Thank u ur video helped me fix my 6.0
Good deal. Glad it helped. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for helpful video!
Thanks for your video,,,iam going ti check oil pressure tomorrow because My tracks doesnt started, si super duty 2003 ,,,6.0 ingen
Did this work for you?
an update to the previous comment, Pulled the low oil pressure relief valve, moved good no metal, used magnet to make sure no metal inside, because i found no damage i changed the low pressure oil pump gears, they looked pretty good a very small sign something small had gotten in there, three of the humps in the gear had very tiny chip in them, but i put new gears in anyway. I also, air checked the engine, did not find what i believed were any air leaks, also put in new injectors, OEM, new dummy and stand pipes, put it all together, like i said before the oil filter housing fills up with oil but i get no oil indication in truck at all, using my scan tool, when cranking the ICP will not even change at all from reading 0 psi, no movement at all, and of course IPR goes to 85%, Now im not sure where to even start, so another question is it possible i still have to much air in system to crank, or could i have a bad ICP sensor, thanks so much I hope to here from you, its your videos that made me want to do this my self !!
@@alglommen8490 did you pack the LPOP with grease or vasoline to help it prime? It won’t prime just metal on metal
My friend, your videos have been a life saver time and time again. My only question with this one specifically: if it does fill with oil, is it as simple as replacing the filter cap so that it’s long enough to trigger the drain vac?
If it fills with oil while holding the drain back valve closed the. You first off have a working LPOP and your drain back valve works.
That is a great video. One question though. What is oll?
I’m not following unless this is a poke at a southern accent.
So this happened from running out of fuel? I ran out of fuel and watch my gauges lose pressure and haven’t started since. I’m going to try this tomorrow
No not from running out of fuel. Just happened to be a coincidence. It didn’t start because the LPOP relief valve was stuck.
Do you have to empty the motor oil?
Would be nice to know what size that Allen is instead of searching for the right size
Great info thanks. What scan tool is are you using here or recommend ?
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Thank you again. I went and with the checks found that the oil tube broke - the plastic part of it. I found a piece inside the where the oil sits. I replaced that part. The oil builds up like in the video. Any chance that some plastic made its way to something else where it’s not building up pressure? What should I look for? My oil gauge still reads zero.
Are you referring to the oil filter stand pipe or the drain back valve?
Can you delete a 2006 and keep the check engine light off without tuning?
Have you sold the red diesel?
Great videos !!!
Oh yea, she gone. Thanks
Where do you hook up a pressure guage to test actual psi of low oil pressure? I have no start, originally had ipr code,, replaced,,, still no start, so bought a scan guage 3 ,, have ficm volts 48 ficm logic 10.5-11, ficm sync 1 ficm cam and crank yes,,rpm 190,,icp .24v ,,icp takes a bit to get to 225 then halts , clean relief valve, nothing in there but tight, pulled and cleaned,,, oil fills in about 10 seconds, im stumped ,, any ideas,, thanks,,pat
great video, are you reading ICP psi? or Kpa? cant really see on screen, thank u, algo if i do have the good oil pressure from engine pump to filter housing, but not high pump pressure at all, should i point to high pressure pump?
If its a early 6.0 (03-early 04) yes, pumps are prone to get weak and the j tube orings can blow also. If it’s late 04 or newer could be stand pipes, dummy plugs or stc fitting(if it still has one) late model pumps don’t typically go bad. You really need to pressure test the Hpo system to really tell the story if your low pressure pump is doing it’s job. And yes I’m reading psi not Kpa
So I did your oil test, got oil, did your bubble test from another video for injectors, no bubbles. Still just cranks no start. New icp, new ipr. Kinda wants to kick over when ether is used. Oil quality is new, filter new, level at max. Where else should I look? Based on my work schedule this thing has been down for months now and if you weren’t just shy of 3 hours away I’d of already brought it to you, lol! Thanks in advance!
What’s the pids during cranking?
@@AutomedicGarage I don’t have that tough book monitoring setup you have but have been contemplating getting it. Do you recommend I get it for more accurate diagnosis?
@@revolutionanarchy713 your just guessing and throwing parts at it without it
@@AutomedicGarage ok
@@AutomedicGarage what’s the brand name of that program, I forget
My truck is studded, sct tuned, fully deleted straight piped and it had supposedly been well taken care of by a friend. On a cold or warm start mine cranks twice or 3 times over before it starts compared to the one in your video. Is there something wrong with it,
Is there a torque spec for the low pressure relief valve?????
Hi there. U have such a good videos!I recommend You're Chanel for others. My 2005 F250 6.0diesel when my cold engine starts, isn't going too High idle to 1000rpm engine wormup. Its still only 670-700 RPM. What is can cause a trouble for this??
What is your coolant temp saying when you crank up?
@@AutomedicGarage Outside is 19C engine coolant 90F I have a so cheap scanner that's my scanner says 90F. 1st in the morning when I start engine it doesn't go high 1000rpm Stays on the same 678rpm.
Were u get that ??
I have an 06 6.0 with a crank no start. Quit on me going 80 in the fast lane and I had to coast over to the side. Was able to get it going eventually and got it home over an hour away. The next day it started for a min and then quit. Couldnt get it started again. Thought it was the fuel pump so tried replacing that and its still not getting fuel to the bowl. Something in the pump or by the bowl doesnt sound right. Im also going to check the oil pressure as you did here tomorrow. Any help where to start next with the fuel issue would be much appreciated!
What’s your fuel level? What’s your fuel pressure? Has your in tank pickup been replaced?
I learned something. Thanks.
You bet!
I have the early 04. I shut mine off the other day and now it just cranks and no start. I am being told its my hpop but my oil well is filling fine.
Hpop doesn’t fill your filter housing, the LPOP does. Being a early 04 it’s highly likely your hpop has crapped out.
thank you. i love when somebody explain the proper way how things work.
Hello I have a quick question I have a truck in my yard that has the same problem but one of the guys sprayed starter fluid and it will start right up and run fine
Do you think that could be the reason
@@waderobinson5796 could be, but pulling live data would tell a lot more along with fuel pressure.
@@AutomedicGarage thank you
Love the video! But I'm Ole School, would have yanked that 6.0 brick out and replaced with a 7.3 :) And WTHeck, Ford's 07 6.0 had it right and tight... then discontued it for 6.4??
I’m a 7.3 guy but love me some 6.0 also.
@@AutomedicGarage That's why I'm subscribed to your channel... Need me to be Learn't on how to work on the 6.0s. My Cuz has a 04' W/ a 6.0 and he's mechanicaly challenged to say the least, Best his Heart :) Also looking on how to make it Bullett Proof! And del-leted the crap that kills these motors!
Awesome video, does this test sorta apply to 06 models as well?
It’s the same 03-07
Is this relevant for the 06 also?
Please send mire videos to lesrn hiw to work on our on truck,because here where i live can nit find people that nows how too woork in this tipe of trucks thanks much friend i Woody like to SEE more of your videos
Glad the videos help. Tell me something I could make a video on that would help you out. Thanks for watching.
Is there a torque spec on the Low Pressure valve spring plug thing that u removed in this video.
Yes I don’t remember it off hand but I usually just tighten it up with my 3/8 ratchet
Low pressure pump is damaged or the pressure relief has crap in it
@@arthurdavenport-y2c that’s what this video is about. Did you not watch the whole video?
Did this filter housing fills up but it’s still not starting. Still nothing on the gauge in the truck. ICP is reading 0. IPR at 85% when cranking ficm sync is 1. No idea what to do now
@@jasoncohen3988 if icp is 0 that’s your problem. Do air test.
@@AutomedicGarage what size is the fitting for the ICP? Hoping to find one close by so I can test it
@@jasoncohen3988 don’t test through icp go through ipr
Good information thanks 👀👀👀👍❗️😊
Hello, see last message,taking a chance you still help people, My 2004 6.0, will not show oil pressure on gauge in truck, with good battery power for cranking, but when i check for low oil pressure in the filter housing, the housing DOES fill up with oil, but when cranking the ICP PSI never leaves 0 psi. and IPR does go to 85%, Is it possible that i have a bad enough oil leak that it wont show any ICP pressure during cranking it ?
@@alglommen8490 it’s rare to make 0 usually make a little. Unplug your icp and try cranking, see what scanner says
What number is the tool to remove a screw?
What do you torque the valve to?
What part of Arkansas are you in? I have a 2009 f350 6.4l that's got a no start issue but it popped out of gear on the interstate and then stalled on the side of the road once I restarted it it stalled out again and wouldn't start again it's not deleted at all I'm in central Arkansas near Conway
@@robschottenbauer4677 we are in Arlington, tn. We have a place on greers ferry lake but live in Tn
@@AutomedicGarage I'd love it if I could get some help with this damn truck Ive only had it for about 6 months was running great no issues had a glow plug issue so my mechanic changed the harness then it started staying stuck in cleaning exhaust filter mode kept cycling through it everytime I'd drive the truck. For about a month it did that but would run fine then I moved back to Arkansas broke down in New Mexico and had to have a long haul tow here how easy is it to change the EGR valve?
@@robschottenbauer4677 it’s not bad but I try not to mess with 6.4s, they are ticking time bombs
so, i pulled my relief valve out and of course it sprung out at me, cleaned it up good and reinstalled, went top side and was watching my reservoir while key off and the reservoir didnt fill….i also tried depressing the plunger in the reservoir still no change….is this a bad lpop? its a 2006 f250 6.0
You have to crank the truck over. LPOP is driven off the crank.
My power stroke when is hot dot run start but don’t run I reemplace IPR icp oil pump allready
Where are you guys located? I’m having the exact same issue with my 2006 350 with the 6.0 power stroke.
West Tn. Contact info @ automedicgarage.com
@AutomedicGarage Do you still have the Red Ford for sale that you had showed in a video 5 months ago?
This video, actually!
Now what would be the next step if the oil filter housing did fill up with oil
Pull the low oil pressure pump. Check gears for scarring. If the gears are scarred. What normally causes this is a lifter has come apart and the needles out of that lifter has gone through the pump. Next step is to pull the engine. And watch bank account go empty.
What happen if it still build oil but still no start only start with starter fluid but truck runs great when running
DO NOT USE STARTING FLUID!!! If you pumping LPO this isn’t your problem. What’s your icp, ipr%, FICM main and FICM sync say when cranking? What’s your fuel pressure? This video only applies if your not making low pressure oil. If you keep throwing starting fluid at a truck your gonna crack a piston or rings.
I have a 2004 PS Lariat Auto and 4wd 250k miles, HPOP replaced twice, I did the second one myself about 7k miles ago. Truck runs fine but recently has no oil pressure on gauge at idle after warmed up. If idle is increased from 750 to 875 the oil pressure warning goes out and the gauge comes back up. Changed oil and filter yesterday and this is still going on.
Any ideas on what it might be ?
@@vg23air what’s your drain back valve look like? Factory cap? Oil filter stand pipe in good shape? Check your LPOP relief valve. If all the above if fine replace oil pressure sender.
@@AutomedicGarage thanks
I got an 03 6.0
What will be the to do the bullet proof on it?
Did you replaced the valve..or just clean it
@@benrodriguez4183 the relief valve? I put it back in
Would you mind telling me what program is that you use on your computer? Thanks bro
@@jonathanbarron363 Autoenginuity
Hello, are you still available to answer questions?
@@alglommen8490 call us monday
I don't know, what is it if you find a needle bearing?
Needle roller from a lifter
mine alsways made a sound when i turned on ignition before cranking it over. now it will crank but no start and no clicking not sure what the clicking was but i had this truck 3 years its a 2005 6.0 and today no start. i tried bleeding the fuel because i did nearly run out of fuel last time i drove it. i am in tears i need my truck back on the road
@@hellothere312 clicking noise was probably your FICM going through it’s cycle. See if you have 47-48 FICM main power and 12v battery power to your FICM.
My 03 6.0 diesel does the same thing but will start when it’s cold and runs fine with oil pressure but when it heats up will not start .
You got a high pressure oil leak somewhere that only shows it’s face when the oil is hot and thin.
Good job
Hope you see this message trying to fix my truck what is the whole part called where the filter goes ?
Are you referring to the whole aluminum filter housing or the oil filter standpipe?
Have you seen this where the filter housing is filling but there is no oil pressure on the dash? Thanks!
Only takes 7psi to read on the dash. The dash oil pressure is not priority if battery voltage is low either. So no if the filter housing fills relatively quick you should have gauge unless you have pretty weak batteries
@@AutomedicGarage I really appreciate that, thank you
What if it starts with starter fluid
@@gilbertoalejo985 don’t use starter fluid… probably has a Hpo leak and the starting fluid made it spin fast enough to build 500 to crank
@@AutomedicGarageyea I have this same issue.
How would I test this. Do you have a video?
Man i almost cried when it stated