Superman 2 (Superman II) fan edit: Villains arrive at the fortress.
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Here is the scene as it is in my fan edit from 2010. I'm looking for suggestions on how this could be improved for the new version in HD. I'll be adding the background hum from the theatrical footage to all Donner Cut footage, any other suggestions?
This video was over 6 minutes and included the full depowering scene, unfortunately it was blocked by WB.
Also, thanks to everyone who's subscribed. Pretty incredible to have almost 500 of you since I didn't even release a video last year, hopefully I can rectify that in the coming months.
this is so awesome much better than the theatrical cut which had all these goofy power's!
11 years old at this point, hopefully I can improve it a bit.
@@faneditedbybooshman its already good and im looking forward to the finished product!
The only thing awkward is around 1 minute when Zod flies towards superman, Lois cutaway, cut back to both standing immobile in front of each other. The rest is such a vast improvement!
Cheers, the difficulty is getting Zod over to Superman and have them grappling. To use the Lester footage without any of the weird powers needs a solution. That's what I came up with in 2010, I want to do it better this time around.
@@faneditedbybooshman Do you have an idea of approximately when we'll get to see the final result? Will it be possible to get it elsewhere than myspleen, for which I don't have an account? I can't wait to see it!
@@plastique45 Not sure when I'll be done. It's been about 10 years on this edit so far so I don't want to make a deadline and not meet it. I'll put it on the spleen but will make sure it's available elsewhere also.
Yeah I immediately noticed it, funny how the human eye can notice cuts in a film that don’t tally. It’s so hard though, I tried doing a superman 3 edit cutting out the crap, to do seamless is near impossible, the trick seems to be using alternate footage to minimise the awkward cuts, sound as well.
Your edit is fabulous, it works very well, I love it !
I’m so glad you’re still working on this
Besides 0:57-1:04, it is a perfect edit
Haha, thanks! Sort of the reason I posted, to get some ideas on how to make that exact bit work better.
@@faneditedbybooshman Warner Bros should mix both versions of superman 2 correct the scenes well and remaster it as superman the final cut to have the definitive cut of superman 2 and that they premiere it on hbo max
@@faneditedbybooshman Did you read superman 78's comic ?
@@RM-qj8cs Not yet.
this is awesome, you did great work , im looking forward, just one thing puzzles me lois kicks ursa then she's standing again, its a good edit
Thanks. Check the continuity for Ursa again, she falls, gets kicked, sits back up, then runs over to grab Lois.
@@faneditedbybooshman ok, and your edit is much better than both donner and Lester's
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Personally I prefer to lose the powers scene with they're hands, if there was a way of getting the lasers from they're eyes that would be the best, I'm just not a fan of Lester's work on the movie tbh the donner cut is superior apart from the eiffel tower scene and the ending but donner himself said he would of changed it had he gotten more time maybe, love your edits by the way👍
The lasers are edited to come from their eyes here but they are still pointing. I can edit it to have their arms down throughout next time though.
@@faneditedbybooshman sorry that's what I ment to write, I like that they're coming from the eyes! Maybe if the arms were down it would be a lot better
More booshman content? This is always a treat!
That's appreciated. Unfortunately this isn't anything new, as you can see from the SD quality, but hopefully it will lead to some good ideas.
@@faneditedbybooshman Just had a think, and I think there's potential to make the Zod flying to Superman bit less jarring. You might be able to repurpose some of the footage from the Metropolis fight (specifically where Zod goes to strike Superman on top of the car), and then cut to his arm being twisted. Removes the awkward stare they give eachother, and shows Superman as being more prepared. The only issue might be the height of Zods arm between the shots, but I just did a test and with quick motion it's isn't too jarring. Maybe zoom in so it looks more like a cut? Not sure, but that's one possible solution. Also, it might be possible to make Superman lasering Non look like he's focusing/straining a bit more to do it. Same with when the three are lasering Superman. Instead of just using the wide shot with their arms up, you could repurpose footage from when Zod's lasering Metropolis and just replace the bg with a matte of the Fortress. Apart from that, the rest of it seems like it can stay the same and works really well! Hope this has been of some help
Hi booshman. I think if you simplified the scene It would be better. For example, the shot with the kick to Ursa should be delete. Also, shot with zod face off Superman would be eliminated and simply leave how Superman catch zod. Of course, i love your fan edit of Superman II.
This is great ! 🔥
Well done ! 💙
Hey Boosh, so glad to see you're still working on this. A few ideas I have if you wanna take a shot at them:
- Before Superman says "I expect..." add a whoosh sound (and maybe a bit of digital cloud "poof" near his feet to imply he landed a little hard).
- pitch Stamp's voice down a bit so that his voice in the Donner footage matches the rest.
- since the shot of them standing eye to eye is so short, what if you did like a slow-mo moment of them them both lifting their arms to attack but then switch to the "strangle hold" shot after another insert/reaction from the others? I need to watch the scene in the theatrical and see if there's a way to make it work.
There was a fan edited clip I saw a very long time ago where someone kept the disappearing/reappearing kryptonians AND superman. We've probably discussed it before. Not sure if it's still on RUclips but if you're interested in taking a shot at doing that to I can see if I still have the clip on my external hard drives and I'll send it to you.
Cheers and happy New year!!
I always interpreted the disappearing bit as the kryptonians moving at super speed.
I wonder if tech has advanced enough that you could add into the scene now a brief shift of the figures and motion blur to better convey that idea.
@@simplegarakTechnology of today is advanced enough to improve underwhelming special effects. Adding motion vibrational colored blurs to the Zod gang and Superman would definitely help better establish in this sequence that they are moving at super speed. The only bit that would still be inconsistent is that during this scene, Non flies toward one of the Superman clones and it collapses from being an ice statue. I feel that's too much to accept the idea of Superman both making a complete ice statue of himself at super speed and creating an afterimage overlayed exactly where the statue stands all at the same time.
@@Vinny792 Ah was there supposed to be an ice statute there? I always assumed it was a kind of super-speed after image.
The idea of a super-speed ice carving though amuses me way more. 😆
@@simplegarak It's seemingly both. If you look at the original scene in slow motion, the after image is overlayed onto what appears to be an ice statue of Superman and is wiped away as Non flies into it and then collapses.
I only liked that you had the heat vision come from their eyes for the most part. The heat vision at Non flying towards him rather than the 'S' shield is debatable. But the super speed and holograms should be kept in. It's great and creative and has Supes using his wits and having some tricks up his sleeves to keep his foes off balance and guessing while he gets everything prepared. Zod gets frustrated at these trivial parlor tricks and Non and Ursula threaten to snap Lois in half. That whole part is perfect just the way it is.
If you like that stuff, the theatrical cut is always there. Everyone teleporting around the fortress is not for me.
@@faneditedbybooshman You could always adjust the vfx with wooshing blurs to make it more clear that Superman and the Zod gang are moving at Superspeed and not teleporting. If you wanted.
You could also add vibrational blurs to the multiple Superman clones to make the appearance of his super speed afterimages more apparent.
The only strange bit that doesn’t consistently add up with the Superman clones is if they’re supposed to be afterimages he creates using his super speed, why does one of them collapse like a statue made of ice?
@@Vinny792 This won't be part of the edit.
@@faneditedbybooshman Just another idea on improving the scene.
Nice! Is there any way to see your fan cut! I’d love to take a look
Not the current version but I completed a previous version in 2010 which is online. Email for info. Faneditedbybooshman@gmail.com
Any chance I could get a copy of your superman returns edit
Yeah, send me an email. faneditedbybooshman@gmail.com